The Hardest Nations To Play in EU4 2023

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  • @LudietHistoria
    @LudietHistoria  2 роки тому +34

    Wanna see the coolest eu4 video ever? here you go ua-cam.com/video/ZrWcbb1l3Mk/v-deo.html

    • @xkx2137
      @xkx2137 2 роки тому

      agree

    • @xkx2137
      @xkx2137 2 роки тому

      u da best

    • @Haradin32
      @Haradin32 2 роки тому

      I'm the girl! hi back ludi! lol

  • @besacciaesteban
    @besacciaesteban 2 роки тому +233

    Imagine having to fight your overlord and your reward is the chance to fight the ottomans

  • @crankykransky2979
    @crankykransky2979 2 роки тому +149

    I admire the fact that ludi still has faith in us after all this time.

  • @ashleycavie325
    @ashleycavie325 2 роки тому +91

    Shoutout to Ludi for teaching us new stuff in every video (always doubles down on the autonomy) much love man you got me into this game fr

  • @pat5648
    @pat5648 2 роки тому +46

    Love when Ludi gives historic context

  • @besacciaesteban
    @besacciaesteban 2 роки тому +37

    At this point in eu4, a nation without flavour has its own kind of flavour

  • @starhaven1881
    @starhaven1881 2 роки тому +45

    I've also done Orleans but none of the other vassals. It took a lot of attempts though and the big thing that helped was recently they made the English better at fighting So they actually came and helped my ass rather than sit on their bloody island and do nothing.

    • @John_1-1_in_Japanese
      @John_1-1_in_Japanese 2 роки тому +5

      I've always wanted to do this one. The Order of Saint Joan modifier looks awesome, combined with French ideas and the image of a giant French crusader-nun state. Plus I'm always thinking about any excuse to get Integration of the Sohei, so if you wanted to get crazy you could aim your colonial game at reaching Japan and stack another 5% discipline and 5% infantry combat ability. You'd be the Prussia of Western Europe except female & fiercely Catholic. How exciting!

    • @azh698
      @azh698 2 роки тому

      I think Nevers is the most difficult of the French vassals. Maybe Normandy, if released from England.

    • @AlphaSections
      @AlphaSections 2 роки тому +1

      @@John_1-1_in_Japanese That actually sounds like fun!
      Can you get sohei as a Catholic power?

    • @John_1-1_in_Japanese
      @John_1-1_in_Japanese 2 роки тому +1

      @@AlphaSections I don't know for certain, but from reading the wiki, I think it's available so long as you're a theocracy whose capital is in Japan and you're Japanese culture. I could be wrong though, in any case you can probably swap religions to something in the Eastern group anyways after getting the Saint Joan modifier. I never bothered testing the reform because how the hell does one get a Japanese theocracy outside of shenanigans like this anyways.

  • @kirilltolstygin9488
    @kirilltolstygin9488 2 роки тому +28

    14:57 you can actually become ming's tributary and attack other tributaries without the interference of ming

  • @Alan_Woke
    @Alan_Woke 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video man 👍

  • @CilantroGamer
    @CilantroGamer 2 роки тому +10

    Hearing Naxos as one of the hardest starts and it being the only nation I did a WC with - makes me smile! :D It was an absolute blast of a run and I love their idea set. Unironically I would love to watch you play as them.

  • @idellius7505
    @idellius7505 Рік тому

    I haven't checked into your stuff for a while, and honestly, you seem quite different from the way I remembered you a couple of years ago. I do think you've done a good job leaning into more historical content, and it's making your EUIV playthroughs feel like a blend of history class and gaming. Your demeanor is a lot more chill as well. I get the impression that you've matured and grown as a content creator, and while I can't speak for everyone in regards to the appeal of your new attitude and content, it certainly does to me. Well done and subscribed. 👍

  • @TheAyko20
    @TheAyko20 2 роки тому

    Great Job Ludi - as always! Time to try some of those nations on VH :D

  • @thedanelord2329
    @thedanelord2329 2 роки тому +2

    Good video keep op the good work😂❤

  • @franelgue2000
    @franelgue2000 2 роки тому

    We need more historical context for random nations!! Great video!

  • @robertbastiencote4284
    @robertbastiencote4284 2 роки тому +16

    Nobody ever counts poor Mzab as a hard start.

    • @Ba5edAF
      @Ba5edAF 2 роки тому

      We don't talk about Mzab cos it's hard af

    • @kenos911
      @kenos911 2 роки тому +2

      the Djerid in question:

  • @Coroner88
    @Coroner88 2 роки тому

    Nice as always! Btw the link to your byzantium video sends you to the oirat->mongol empire video.

  • @raphaelmagalhaes1187
    @raphaelmagalhaes1187 2 роки тому +6

    Hey ludi
    Just wanted to say the little history stuff you tell is actually not annoying its interesting! And also great vid I'll try to avoid these nations since I'm pretty bad😅

  • @napalmblaziken
    @napalmblaziken 2 роки тому +1

    Champa is actually one of my favorite nations to play, so I did know about Rhade, Jarai, and Koho. My opening strategy is to attack Rhade first since they almost never have allies and vassalize them. Then feed them the others. Helps give a bit of a boost to deter Khmer and Dai Viet. Allying Malacca and Ayutthaya helps too.

  • @Takethesenibbashoes
    @Takethesenibbashoes 2 роки тому +2

    Damn my recommendation page working overtime

  • @SebastianCepedaMoyaStudio3
    @SebastianCepedaMoyaStudio3 Рік тому

    big fan Ludi! as a Chilean, im a fan of the nations of the new world and i have to say that form Mayas with Huastec (for the achievement) is hard at least to me... same with the Mapuches, i mean... you're a lonely nation with no flavor just waiting for 1490 and be wiped out of existence jajajajaja

  • @thibaultsartori3877
    @thibaultsartori3877 Рік тому

    Have made a run with Naxos and paradoxally experienced the most successful game I have ever done. I formed the Latin Empire. By far the most powerful nation by 1600s - 4 or 5 times stronger than the second. Got lucky having a PU on Russia and Spain which obviously helped a lot. You should try it Ludi !

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 роки тому +2

    So basically "Top 12 one province minors parked within spitting distance of starting great powers"

  • @gregoriotauro4469
    @gregoriotauro4469 2 роки тому +1

    Ludi, as Naxos get supported by Ottomans for independence.
    Here you have two choices.
    1 - in the independence war grab some Italian land and work your way as an italian minor who'll never be attacked, as you're backed up by the ottomans. Join the HRE, form Italy or Austria, it's up to you.
    Or
    2 - grab Crete in the independence war. Then butter up the ottomans until they support your invasion of Egypt. You'll then have Venetian crusader Egypt. If you do this, just make sure not to grab any more greek lands or lands in Syria, because the Ottomans will break their alliance and attack you.
    You could form Jerusalem, since you're a monarchy, not a republic. Though it's a real nice blue map colour, looks lovely on Egypt.
    Sincerely,
    Your local Naxos enjoyer

  • @swatcccp4673
    @swatcccp4673 2 роки тому +1

    The hardest thing for me is ideas. When i start doing them i just get suuuper behind everyone else on tech.

  • @rowanmales3430
    @rowanmales3430 2 роки тому +5

    Any reason why you ignored some of the small Muscovy vassals? There's also our little desert friend Mzab.

  • @evgenyrus9980
    @evgenyrus9980 Рік тому

    I love playing as Champa, so obviously know this area pretty well. Rhade, Jarai and Koho and the first three countries I annex.

  • @aram9167
    @aram9167 2 роки тому +1

    5:38 It's pronounced Melikeytz, like shogunate, etc. A melik is some kind of governor of a region, so melikdom or melikate refers to a province governed by a melik.

  • @gamgamesplayer4506
    @gamgamesplayer4506 2 роки тому +3

    If we count hard and very hard difficulty, only nations on the list that rely on other nations would be on it

  • @viniciusyugulis7278
    @viniciusyugulis7278 2 роки тому +1

    I remember when I had Byzantium and Granada as vassals once, and they allied each other, it was funny

  • @jandavid5435
    @jandavid5435 2 роки тому +1

    Gazikumukh also becomes a tributary of the great horde a lot

  • @HuadiGao
    @HuadiGao 2 роки тому +1

    Can you actually do a guide for The Three Mountains? Really interested in it.

  • @arandomwalk
    @arandomwalk 2 роки тому +6

    If this video reaches 10k likes please actually do what you promised Ludi!

  • @Shadowking-jtm
    @Shadowking-jtm 2 роки тому +2

    Is there any chance on more CK3 videos? Been really getting into CK3 and would like to see some content on it

  • @joppe191
    @joppe191 2 роки тому

    I did a Avaria world conquest once, and tried to do one faith as well. Though I did succeed in world conquest, I probably needed 30 more years to convert everything and I also was not a 1 tag (I had a few vassals at the end). What I like to do is convert to Turkish culture and Orthodox religion.
    Also back when I did it, the Athens game was quite easy, I would say a lot easier than Byzantium. You could get Ottomans to support you, then Ottomans will become your ally. From that point you use the Ottomans to keep smashing the Mameluks until you are powerful enough to beat the Ottomans on your own or with other allies.

  • @samisainio7468
    @samisainio7468 2 роки тому

    I think that my most hard earned achievement was the Empire of Mann playthrough. I went pirate republic but it was not all fun and games I tell :D

  • @alexcebe8051
    @alexcebe8051 2 роки тому

    I just played makuria before seeing this video, and it was far easier that I expected. Not only did the mamluks not attack me (they didn't even have my provinces as vital) but I managed to conquer all nubian land, with Alodia being an ally of ethiopia, because ethiopia got attacked and did not join the war. And after anexing Alodia, ethiopia became friendly and allied me.

  • @tyleranderson4721
    @tyleranderson4721 2 роки тому

    I literally just got the "Re-Reconquista" achievement yesterday. :)

  • @xapiuss5876
    @xapiuss5876 2 роки тому +3

    What about rostov (muscovy vassal) ? Idk how to survive as this nation. Also ryazan pretty hard

  • @TangoPenguin16
    @TangoPenguin16 2 роки тому

    We gotta get this like goal so i can watch pappi ludi play naxos

  • @Arathreas
    @Arathreas Рік тому +1

    I used to have a lot of trouble with Byzantium many patches ago. Nowdays I feel like it's a no brainer.
    Go full on mil focus, high lvl mil advisor, mil focus, nobility estate etc., immediately build up galleys from game start and then take full loans and go way past FL and dec the second you have mil tech 4. Its pretty much impossible to fail and you are guaranteed to win. Estates made this very easy.

  • @yaldabaoth2
    @yaldabaoth2 2 роки тому +2

    I'm excited to see what happens with Byzantium in the next patch or the next dlc. Will Ottomans be more op with op missions or start much weaker making the balkans free real estate?

  • @devonbowden1314
    @devonbowden1314 2 роки тому

    love ur vids

  • @emma5068
    @emma5068 2 роки тому

    Yazd. A releasable two province minor in the middle east. Start as Timurids, release and play as Yadz. Usually they will be zoroastrian. Restart if they're not. I would say it is easier than Granada or Byzantium since the Timurids inevitably implode, but it is still a very hard start.
    Lots of strong powers around you that would rather conquer you than help you. Difficult to get allies. But once you get going and successfully fend off the wolves, you can take religious ideas and become an unstoppable blob greatly positioned to form a powerful zoroastrian Persia or Mugals.

  • @antoniobrandao7139
    @antoniobrandao7139 2 роки тому +1

    Cyprus... I never get to see the XVI century. Either get trashed or bankrupt. #pain

  • @thearea51raidwasboring
    @thearea51raidwasboring 2 роки тому +1

    Luristan better be on this list

  • @ira233
    @ira233 2 роки тому

    Would be fun watching Ludi play Nitra

  • @seleucoslovealexandre
    @seleucoslovealexandre 2 роки тому

    You r so funny and you have a good accent , your the only shnapy(boy) that i understand when speak english
    Love from France

  • @enderalici
    @enderalici 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Ludi, love your videos. I’m actually from Tarsus/Turkey. It’s a part of Içel now not Adana. (Also Içel is called Mersin now)
    Now I have to play Melikates don’t I?

  • @NON155
    @NON155 2 роки тому +1

    AM FINE WITH THAT UA-cam LIVE STREAM WITH 10K LIKES AS NASSO

  • @nationalsocialism3504
    @nationalsocialism3504 2 роки тому

    I've never managed to get a Theodore game going properly

  • @matteoclementi
    @matteoclementi 2 роки тому +2

    Want an hard start? Play a vassal in vanilla, like Monferrat or Never.
    Have fun.

  • @Cynical_BreadCrumbs
    @Cynical_BreadCrumbs 2 роки тому

    Subscribed only for the ''It's the same strat, everyone gets excited for a new Byzantium video but you just present the exact same strategy, so...''

  • @tiberiuimbrisca1047
    @tiberiuimbrisca1047 2 роки тому

    man i watch your videos for quite some times mostly on victoria 3 can you do a video in europa universalis 4, basicaly you create a rebel nation at the border of the catholic and orthodox religion and spread a new religion in both ways?

  • @triersero2763
    @triersero2763 2 роки тому

    I once did islands only wc as the isles, I remember finishing it, but for some reason, I can't remember anything after moving my capital to the new world

  • @Epiczoveel
    @Epiczoveel 2 роки тому +1

    I'd say time to get those 10k likes!

  • @andrefiremaster
    @andrefiremaster 2 роки тому +1

    I did the nubian achievement as Makuria and found it quite easy :(
    I swear I have a social life
    Also, you forgot Odoyev

  • @avramescuroberto250
    @avramescuroberto250 2 роки тому

    make top flags/ favorite flags in EU4 ! xD

  • @crusader7659
    @crusader7659 2 роки тому +1

    You wanna know how I feel about you calling The Knights part of the Teutonic Order Ludi? A little constipated, thanks for asking

    • @LudietHistoria
      @LudietHistoria  2 роки тому

      i love your profile picture brother of sword

    • @crusader7659
      @crusader7659 2 роки тому +1

      @@LudietHistoria Thank you, I picked this helmet up from the 1096 summer catalogue. It's a bit old fashioned these days, but true gentlemen like yourself can appreciate the drip

  • @Hadar1991
    @Hadar1991 2 роки тому

    13:12 I have 2159,5 hours in EU4 andd I have never heard of those three. :D Not even sure If I ever seen them on the map. :D

  • @maddahy
    @maddahy 2 роки тому

    Re Theodoro, you miss the options of actually fighting the Ottomans. Is quite RNG, basically you race taking Kocaeli until they siege Constantinopole. If I am to quantify tho, I would put it at a decent 20-30% odds; but what is rough comes actually afterwards, because you'd take land in Anatolia (first off to prevent the decision of moving capital to Constantinopole), which is Turkish and Sunni. Unfortunatelly the effort put into that might make Gothic Invasion unachievable, but hey you can always Roman Empire, eh.

  • @skvt5167
    @skvt5167 2 роки тому

    Ludi, where did the Knights of Honor video go?
    I had a busy day but was expecting to watch it when I came back and now it's gone :(

  • @epicmonkeysandapes9896
    @epicmonkeysandapes9896 2 роки тому

    the avars who fought in central europe were different than the the avars in the caucasus i believe

  • @RevanLegend
    @RevanLegend 2 роки тому

    Okay Sir. I wanted so much Ryukyu WC achievement gameplay but apparently it's not going to happen so as a compensation I can accept some fancy things with The Isle of Mann. And after that I will probably come back to bargaining about Ryukyu 🤣

  • @MSDoL
    @MSDoL 2 роки тому +2

    Ok that's cool. But where is Monferrat with no loans and allies?

  • @Verygoodfeel01
    @Verygoodfeel01 2 роки тому

    Thanks i will never play with none of that nations i will play with something easy and congrats from Bulgaria.

  • @chucknorrismlg425
    @chucknorrismlg425 2 роки тому +1

    I have to say in enjoy EU4 videos way more than VIC3

  • @viniciusyugulis7278
    @viniciusyugulis7278 2 роки тому

    Hey Ludi, is it a good idea to no-cb Caucasian minor as Granada, ignore the Maghreb and Iberia for a while, then expand your power base into Persia and the Caucasus?

  • @etienneparis195
    @etienneparis195 Рік тому

    I try the Soho daimyo once, one province an island, daimyo, but no sengoku for you, pirate. And except try to develop a lot, i don't what you need to take over japan ^^

  • @Eisenwulf666
    @Eisenwulf666 2 роки тому +2

    in my experience Granada is hard but not impossible, you do have to restart sometimes because of horrible RNG but it's doable.EDIT : Hisn Kayfa on the other hand broke me, absolute torment. Great national ideas but very tough and rng dependant. Stopped after the 8th restart when my average ruler died during a war and left me with a 1-1-1 Craven cretin.

  • @ibnebadr367
    @ibnebadr367 2 роки тому

    they should make a decision of forming ayubids as hisn kyfa give it bounces of mamluks (maybe better) and some modifers like good diplomacy and more damage against christian nations.

  • @juliangauser5517
    @juliangauser5517 2 роки тому

    You haven't mentioned Ardabil, now you have to make a video about it.

  • @amirrezamahdian3923
    @amirrezamahdian3923 2 роки тому

    In Romania it’s poopoo,but in my county they say if you have that A*s you might do that

  • @n_0477
    @n_0477 2 роки тому

    avaria is by no means an incredibly hard start, it's easy to break free against gazikmuhk and after that it's the same difficulty as their overlord

  • @harz632
    @harz632 Рік тому

    3.6k hours and I played a Siam game today and learned their names just rightb efore watching this video.

  • @huutinhang1567
    @huutinhang1567 2 роки тому +1

    I'm from Vietnam and I confirm that Champa is a different culture from vietnamese but was destroyed and mostly converted to vietnamese.

    • @mr.snaplles5964
      @mr.snaplles5964 2 роки тому

      Chams still exist in vietnam iirc, but they converted to islam

    • @huutinhang1567
      @huutinhang1567 2 роки тому

      It's true, still a few chams in those areas nowadays​ @Mr. Snaplles

  • @DarthFhenix55
    @DarthFhenix55 2 роки тому +2

    19:58 Actually they had a decently large empire.

    • @azarshadakumuktir4551
      @azarshadakumuktir4551 2 роки тому

      Theodoro isn't really a direct successor to the Ostrogoth, its a byzantine estate that became independent.

    • @DarthFhenix55
      @DarthFhenix55 2 роки тому

      @@azarshadakumuktir4551 I never said it was the Ostrogoth empire.

    • @azarshadakumuktir4551
      @azarshadakumuktir4551 2 роки тому

      @@DarthFhenix55 Theodoro had no empire of its own...

    • @DarthFhenix55
      @DarthFhenix55 2 роки тому

      @@azarshadakumuktir4551 What about the Trebizond Empire?

    • @azarshadakumuktir4551
      @azarshadakumuktir4551 2 роки тому

      @@DarthFhenix55 Theodoro isn't Trebizond, Trebizond is to the South of the Black sea, and it was never ruled from Theodoro.

  • @argetshino
    @argetshino 2 роки тому

    I have just started a play with navarra this morning xD mid hard he said i had to fight England with burgundy then Aragon by myself and he said MID HARD 😂

  • @dewboots
    @dewboots 2 роки тому

    4,000 hours in and still learning names? I feel called out lol

  • @erenkur3832
    @erenkur3832 2 роки тому

    Tarsus is a city in the province of icel and it is in the same region in Adana and very close to Adana, actually if Adana is in the approximately middle of the cilician plains , Tarsus is in the western edges of the same plain. To get Tarsus from Anatolia, men still should get through the gates of cilicia and at the easternmost edges of the same plain lays İskenderun and the gates of Syria. Armenian Kingdom as I know had castles at cilician gates and highlands and those were their centre, and untill the dark period of our history Armenians were still the majority at those highland towns, and controlled the plain which we now call cukurova (literary low plain or pit plain), they might had Tarsus as capital but city of Tarsus and Adana are not same, Tarsus is still a big city and as I know the airport of Adana is actually located at the land of Tarsus

  • @baldimorgornest8872
    @baldimorgornest8872 2 роки тому +1

    Video 75 of asking for a releasable Nitra tutorial.

  • @drchaos2000
    @drchaos2000 2 роки тому

    all nations that are released from a vassal/pu nation are the hardest possible cause you cant get any support from any outside force for your independance and you fight the independance war alone vs the overlords and his overlord and whatever allies they have.
    best example here is iceland.. i dare anyone to try it

  • @farwynd2925
    @farwynd2925 2 роки тому

    Theodoro was my first ever run

  • @alejandronieto4212
    @alejandronieto4212 Рік тому

    Started playing Trebizond. Had to leave because god damn it is painful.

  • @valentinvergnet3303
    @valentinvergnet3303 2 роки тому

    Please Ludi , do a Rouergue world conquest

  • @TheOnlyKingOfSpades
    @TheOnlyKingOfSpades 2 роки тому

    Ludi can you please explain what Social life is and how to download it, is it on pdx website?

  • @maddogbasil
    @maddogbasil 2 роки тому

    Yo ludi
    You tried to roleplay pirate nation with adal somalia formable

  • @holgerlinke98
    @holgerlinke98 2 роки тому

    the historical avars and the current nation in Dagestan/ingame nation are not identical. But sure, it allows for some nice flavor^^

  • @sioneris1545
    @sioneris1545 2 роки тому

    The game has become a lot harder, especially in high attrition regions, its hard to have troops and do anything. Additionally, the sheer amount of blue claims everybody has makes diplomacy a much less useful avenue even in places like the HRE and around the ottoman. (essentially anything that remotely looks like an ottoman future blue claim is impossible to play for casual to medium players).

  • @92MarckO
    @92MarckO 2 роки тому +1

    Every nation is a hard nation if you're hard while playing

  • @insomnium5024
    @insomnium5024 2 роки тому

    I'm kinda surprised that you didn't mention the Russian Principalities. These are super hard because no one really cares about you and wants to support your independence. Hordes will never help you, neither will Poland nor Denmark. So basically the only option is to reset until Lithuania does not get PU'd by Poland. And then still it is a really hard war even with Lithuania on your side. you will get fully occupied and probably quickly reach 20 war exhaustion. I tried this as Perm and I managed to get my troops through Kazan and Great Horde to merge with the Lithuanians. And still it took me plenty of time to break through Muscovite forts and a couple resets when Lithuanians abondoned me for no reason or went somewhere randomly to get 1/3 of their army stackwiped. Peak AI right there. And when you get your independence and still don't really have any good opportunities of expansion.

  • @swanman183
    @swanman183 2 роки тому

    94th video of asking ludi for 8 first taungu empire achievement guide

  • @ssnaut1871
    @ssnaut1871 2 роки тому +8

    Day 1 of supporting the guy who is asking ludi to play Sikh empire in Victoria 3

  • @andyduke6119
    @andyduke6119 2 роки тому

    What happened to the rest of Theodoro campaign? You have +10,000 likes.

  • @user-Erimej
    @user-Erimej 2 роки тому

    Ludi! What about Mzab?

  • @IHMnotuseless2204
    @IHMnotuseless2204 2 роки тому +1

    I've played as rhade before
    >:(
    ludi we're not all europeans ok?

  • @agustindiazfunes7015
    @agustindiazfunes7015 2 роки тому

    Thought Iceland would have made the cut as well.

  • @DapperDonkey
    @DapperDonkey 2 роки тому

    I'm disappointed there wasn't a Rade shadow legends ad

  • @velazquezn
    @velazquezn 2 роки тому

    Manipur flag looks cool.

  • @눈물-r5l
    @눈물-r5l 2 роки тому

    It is a human-controlled Sukhothai, and if the Ayutthaya' current ruler dies, Ayutthaya will become a vassal of Sukhothai.

  • @FTWNorwayFTW
    @FTWNorwayFTW 2 роки тому

    We only want to see Vic 3 now, grr