I rode one is Salt Lake City. Insane! The power/torque is unexplainable. I got off that with a huge smile on my face and I’m 58 and ride a 2010 Ultra Limited. Loved it.
I test rode a Livewire a month ago and absolutely LOVED it. I'm not a sport bike rider, but put that electric powertrain in a Road Glide and I'd strongly consider buying one!
@@DavidSmith-fw6uj Honestly if a good EV touring bike came out with really good range, AND the charging network was in place to support it, yeah I'd straight up trade the Wing in!
I actually REALLY like the Liverwire. It's price is ridiculous though, and the lack of charging stations in my area(small town Oregon) prohibits any serious investment into electric vehicles right now. Which is fine since I'm still having way too much fun and am madly in love with my Raider.
Yes! I commented a while ago that I went and test rode one and you needed to check one out! I thought it was a blast to ride. So fast too! Glad you got to ride it!
What is next for you to test ride the Pan American? Love the idea of an electric motorcycle , yet like the Electric car in my country Australia , not really worth it unless you are living in the suburbs in a major city and are commuting to work, because not that many public chargers which means you are going to be using household power to charge.
I'm a wee bit jealous. The only taste I got of the Livewire was in a booth, and it was mounted on a display that allowed the rear wheel to spin. You could crank the throttle and that's about it.
@@lookatmeeee I'm going to file your comment in the bottom drawer, next to the people that thought large dogs were carrying small children across the southern border in their mouths.
Rode one a cpl months ago. Very quiet, quicker than I thought it would be. Light, only con is people won’t hear you coming up alongside cuz it’s too quiet.
Jess your description was real time while on the bike. The cost is going to be blown out of the water when other brands come out with them. It will be interesting if they put the electric option in some of their bigger bikes.
I have to test ride one, But you said a lot of things that I would agree with, I need noise, vibration, and style. Plus we don't have a lot of charging stations. I am old school biker my next bike will be a 2021 or 2022 Road King!
Our office has charging stations in teh deck and one front lot for electric vehicles. I would have one to commute and run around town on. But I'd miss shifting gears and engine noise.
Someone will figure out a way to harness the Harley sound and sync it with the speed you are riding. If they're not working on it already. Nice video Jess.
Loved the Yammie style blur of the dash at high speeds 😂 Personally I love these bikes. Really wish Harley would do more street fighter sport bikes. *cough* *cough* Bronx
Things I like about this bike: 1: it's fast 2: paintjob Things I dislike about this bike: 1: price 2: general design (i.e. blinkers, headlight, seat) 3: the fact that it has no gears 4: the whining sound / lack of engine sound 5: it is only really suitable for one single kind of riding (city centre), which is the one kind of riding I never do 6: having to wait for the bike to charge instead of gas&go (if you forgot to charge it at home, or try to take it for a longer ride than to work and back) 7: sportbike ergonomics without the sportbike looks 8: did I mention price?
Electric motorcycles are great but still need improvement, a swappable battery feature would be good, like a gas stop but just leave your battery there and get a new one instead of gas. It would have to be standardised across all manufacturers too and not proprietary technologies so you wouldn’t have to get a specific model version
I saw the first one of these last weekend and I was surprised how small this bike was. Really cool bike, but just can't justify the price. Fist thing I did when I threw my leg over the seat was reach for the clutch.
Again excellent dialogue on this motorcycle. Almost the same as my son's Tesla Performance auto. I'd have to give it the same explanations. Power "like wow man". Have a great day.
Hi Jess, I'm probably as excited as you at this moment, seeing the future of motorcycles, although it's going to be a very strange transition. The adrenalin rush from a screaming exhaust!, can be replaced by the acceleration, the massive torque can produce, and we can begin to enjoy the sound of silence! I would love to see a full review with specs. The first time to see a live wire, riding a live wire, quite a memorable moment!
I enjoyed hearing your first impressions since I know you ride Harleys and others. I figured it would be fast, but the price is too high for what you get, and you definitely have to be in a charging station rich environment and only take short rides.
I want to test ride the livewire but my local (syracuse NY) dealership told me the Motor Co. Asked the dealership to pay somewhere are 60-80k dollars to install a charging network at their dealership and they didn't want to so therefore they won't be getting any EVs delivered
Greetings from Oregon sis Glad you got to test the bike it's not for everyone it has place in city streets its not my thing the down side is way too much money 😀be safe 👍
"and when you wanna slow down you just sit up and use yourself as a sail" Exactly! That's why you see moto gp riders sit up before a turn, they're braking.
Been riding for nearly 3 decades, and I understand Harley trying to not miss a market niche. This is a cool technology demonstrator for Harley as well, but I'll never love taking all the Harley-ness out of a Harley. I will always need the sound and vibration, exhaust smell, etc.
Your moving but no sound I like the live wire sound though when you speed up! Like one of them trains I'm definitely looking forward to a dealership getting the Indian chief dark horse Plus if sanders still has it I'm going to probably get a z900
You are correct. The bike is suitable for urban living, around town, short trip or so. NOT for riders who wants to ride to the mountains or to the next town for a day trip. Or join a premium towing membership.
Yeah it's very sport bike looking. Apart from the cramped riding style, just not enough range for where I live either. Also as you said way too expensive compared to big cruisers / tourers. Maybe in 10 yrs might be enough quick charge stations around to use it.
The range is my biggest issue with it. My best friend has sport bikes that compare to the live wire in performance and we regularly ride 200 miles one way
So, how do you like that Torque!? I have an electric. Not a live wire but just as fast! Omg I was so intimidated until I figured out how to make a custom mode and took the torque down!! Now it’s got the torque of a scooter. Lol
I’m so glad that Harley came out with it. However they have rebranded it with another company. Is that a mistake? We will see. I’d love to have one but the price would need to come down.
Cool! Dont think I would ever own one though. I also live in a RUAL area. I like the deer to hear me coming. How many miles on a charge? Also heard you mention quicker battery draw on highways. Are you going to test ride the new Harley adventure bike?
Everyone I've seen do a test ride of the Livewire has giggled like girls over the acceleration. Look Flip na was given one to hold onto for a little bit and the whole shade tree Army was giggling like girls when they borrowed it. Weem's had a really good reaction
In Central and South America it’s popular for muggers and hitmen to ride motorcycles on pairs where they can ride up quickly on their targets and getaway. So people have started to become alert to the sound of a loud motorcycle engine. I shudder thinking about them riding e-bikes where there will be no warning and no sound to track.
I think you are on the money when you say it is to early. The price is high and the practicality doesn’t make sense Yet. Great video, thank You for sharing.
Last time I went to Bert’s Barricuda here in Clearwater Florida they were promoting the live wire. Sales rep told us a 2021 was selling for around $30,000. Under a 100 miles before charging. My iron 883 gets 54 miles per gallon with a 3.3 gallon peanut tank. I’ll pass on the live wire Jess. ✌️
The only problem with the bike is it’s sales 41 have been registered for the road in the UK which is 1 demo bike per dealer 1 press bike and about 8 sales to customers. Dealerships are selling the demo bikes for about £25000 and there is one on E-Bay for £22000 I don’t see many takers even at that price ( full retail on the road is £29000). The bike is fun to ride and is about the best in class it just costs way too much which is sad . I didn’t expect Harley to bring this bike out and can only praise their efforts but at that price it is has been an easy target for those who like to knock harley and those who want Harley to re invent the shovel head and just sell “traditional” Harley’s to it’s core customers.
Charging points only solve half of the problem. Would you want to wait 4-8 hours for it to charge? I don't want to get home at midnight just for a day trip.
@@mattingray5651 The range is very limited once you get out of town at normal road speeds (50 to 80 mph) the bike has a range of about 70 to 80 miles as you don’t recharge under braking. This limited range rather limits the bike to short trips unless you can guarantee that there is a charging point where you are going a 300 mile motorway trip could be unthinkable even with fast charging of 1 to 2 hours.
The bike would be ideal for my commute to work but the price is prohibitive .It is not society that is not ready it is the product is not right for the market it is aimed at the bike is a city commuter and there are so many bikes that will do the job as well for less. I am hoping that it is a sign of things to come and costs come down rather than Harley killing it off quietly in a few years time . The bike is fun to ride it just costs too much .
Too bad it wasn’t designed as a cruiser. I don’t think it’s electric drive that has made this bike sell so poorly, or even the price. Mostly just the styling. When has Harley been successful with a sport bike style/influence? Certainly not with the Cafe Racer or the Vrod. Harley buyers (not dreamers) love the traditional Harley look. I also am concerned how well the the Pan America will sell, at least until she comes out in cruiser form later. Glad you had fun on your ride Jess, now you can stretch out on your lovely Dyna!
.... I just bought my first gas powered bike, and now this? xD The noise, I don't think, will be that much of an issue if/when more folks are converted over to electric cars.
My uncle has been a local dealer forever, and he asked me if I'd like to try out a Livewire. The hardest part to get used to is the QUIET. Torque monster though, and I LOVE the "aggressive" mode. But at 28 grand, and a charge to ride ratio of less than 100 miles?...(He DID mention you could buy an optional "Tesla" type charger that reduces charge time to 5 or 6 hours...ahem) Nah. Also, it takes 10 hours to fully charge on the charger that comes with it. A few more refinements and this may just be the bike of the future. Oh, and I also absolutely HATED the sportbike "stance" and riding position.
The price is very much a problem. This bike can work for Rual areas like Ohio, but.....your trip better be taking you back to home or work (someplace your be for hours) with at least a 110V outlet. Big city's have the charge network, and thanks to Tesla there are more charge stations then you realize. Now I've been waiting for you to talk about the live-wire. I've been looking at Electric bikes and really want one. The two biggest players at the moment are Zero and Energica. HD did good with getting in with electric as one of the Big motorcycle mfr's. Now I really hope that they do a cruiser version with DC fast charging. You ever need someone to review a HD E-bike for an extended bit just let me know. I will happily volunteer.
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I rode one is Salt Lake City. Insane! The power/torque is unexplainable. I got off that with a huge smile on my face and I’m 58 and ride a 2010 Ultra Limited. Loved it.
It’s crazy because I was using limewire 20 years ago.
lol
that got a real laugh outta me lol
Lol I see what you did there.
I test rode a Livewire a month ago and absolutely LOVED it. I'm not a sport bike rider, but put that electric powertrain in a Road Glide and I'd strongly consider buying one!
@@DavidSmith-fw6uj Honestly if a good EV touring bike came out with really good range, AND the charging network was in place to support it, yeah I'd straight up trade the Wing in!
I actually REALLY like the Liverwire. It's price is ridiculous though, and the lack of charging stations in my area(small town Oregon) prohibits any serious investment into electric vehicles right now. Which is fine since I'm still having way too much fun and am madly in love with my Raider.
Yes! I commented a while ago that I went and test rode one and you needed to check one out! I thought it was a blast to ride. So fast too! Glad you got to ride it!
I want to ride one so bad, demo truck was just in western WI. No Livewire, I was super bummed.
What is next for you to test ride the Pan American? Love the idea of an electric motorcycle , yet like the Electric car in my country Australia , not really worth it unless you are living in the suburbs in a major city and are commuting to work, because not that many public chargers which means you are going to be using household power to charge.
Your thoughts are spot on, were not ready for this.....trouble is only demand will drive the companies to fit infrastructure...
I'm a wee bit jealous. The only taste I got of the Livewire was in a booth, and it was mounted on a display that allowed the rear wheel to spin. You could crank the throttle and that's about it.
I want to try one on a cruiser platform, leaning over a tank is just not for me. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride!
I really hope to see an electric cruiser soon!
@@lolaleslie66 with LiveWire becoming its own brand we might just see it
Very impressive feature H-D built into this bike, to blur out the speedo when traveling over the limit ...........
That's her editing buddy. UA-cam would flag it for demonization probably
Allegedly*
@@lookatmeeee I'm going to file your comment in the bottom drawer, next to the people that thought large dogs were carrying small children across the southern border in their mouths.
@@lookatmeeee 🤦♂️it’s called sarcasm buddy...
LMAO 😎👍
Rode one a cpl months ago. Very quiet, quicker than I thought it would be. Light, only con is people won’t hear you coming up alongside cuz it’s too quiet.
That's what the horn was put on there for....
Jess your description was real time while on the bike. The cost is going to be blown out of the water when other brands come out with them. It will be interesting if they put the electric option in some of their bigger bikes.
I have to test ride one, But you said a lot of things that I would agree with, I need noise, vibration, and style. Plus we don't have a lot of charging stations. I am old school biker my next bike will be a 2021 or 2022 Road King!
Your comments reflect my opinions of the new electric snowmobiles, the sounds that are missing are part of the overall experience.
Glad you liked it. And you didn’t giggle too much.
Now you should review the Zero sr/f
Sensory reallocation. The bike gets quieter, the rider laughs louder! Looks like a blast
That's a really nice bike.
Our office has charging stations in teh deck and one front lot for electric vehicles. I would have one to commute and run around town on. But I'd miss shifting gears and engine noise.
Very cool smart bike. Fast acceleration isn’t it? Ya miss that V&H RUMBLE don’t ya. 😊
All the torque, none of the noise. Has to be different for sure
Polar opposite 😄
I wouldn’t be able to get used to how quiet they are! Totally hear you about the infrastructure and the US not being ready.
Livewire is awesome 🧡
Someone will figure out a way to harness the Harley sound and sync it with the speed you are riding. If they're not working on it already. Nice video Jess.
They do this with some cars.
Interesting comments about the Livewire there...good job and thank you Jess!!
Loved the Yammie style blur of the dash at high speeds 😂 Personally I love these bikes. Really wish Harley would do more street fighter sport bikes. *cough* *cough* Bronx
Things I like about this bike:
1: it's fast
2: paintjob
Things I dislike about this bike:
1: price
2: general design (i.e. blinkers, headlight, seat)
3: the fact that it has no gears
4: the whining sound / lack of engine sound
5: it is only really suitable for one single kind of riding (city centre), which is the one kind of riding I never do
6: having to wait for the bike to charge instead of gas&go (if you forgot to charge it at home, or try to take it for a longer ride than to work and back)
7: sportbike ergonomics without the sportbike looks
8: did I mention price?
Electric motorcycles are great but still need improvement, a swappable battery feature would be good, like a gas stop but just leave your battery there and get a new one instead of gas. It would have to be standardised across all manufacturers too and not proprietary technologies so you wouldn’t have to get a specific model version
I saw the first one of these last weekend and I was surprised how small this bike was. Really cool bike, but just can't justify the price. Fist thing I did when I threw my leg over the seat was reach for the clutch.
It was great seeing you there! I’m the one who asked if it was your first time riding a livewire. They truly are really an odd bike.
Antonio - you taught me something today: When i want to say shit, I'll use the word odd...
Again excellent dialogue on this motorcycle. Almost the same as my son's Tesla Performance auto. I'd have to give it the same explanations. Power "like wow man". Have a great day.
The live wire is a really cool bike. That’s so awesome you got to ride one!!!
You need to try an MT10! Yeah!
Great video. Keep up the good content.
Caliente HD is San Antonio TX has a new black one for sale @ $23,999.
Reminds me of my Aztec Orange 1200 Sportster.
Jim Kirk's bike. If JJ Abrams were filming _Star_ _Trek_ today, Chris Pine could do those scenes live.
Hi Jess, I'm probably as excited as you at this moment, seeing the future of motorcycles, although it's going to be a very strange transition. The adrenalin rush from a screaming exhaust!, can be replaced by the acceleration, the massive torque can produce, and we can begin to enjoy the sound of silence! I would love to see a full review with specs. The first time to see a live wire, riding a live wire, quite a memorable moment!
Prefect thing to go with my TriGlide and my 883 Iron. I want.
I enjoyed hearing your first impressions since I know you ride Harleys and others. I figured it would be fast, but the price is too high for what you get, and you definitely have to be in a charging station rich environment and only take short rides.
I want to test ride the livewire but my local (syracuse NY) dealership told me the Motor Co. Asked the dealership to pay somewhere are 60-80k dollars to install a charging network at their dealership and they didn't want to so therefore they won't be getting any EVs delivered
I have yet to test ride the Live Wire. The only thing that would stop me from buying one is the price. I would consider Zero motorcycles before this.
I live in even more rural than you Jess, so it definitely wouldn't work for me!! and when I go to Alaska... no way! Thanks for the review!
Check out the places where lithium mines are how much it destroys the ground compared to oil and natural gas wells.
Greetings from Oregon sis Glad you got to test the bike it's not for everyone it has place in city streets its not my thing the down side is way too much money 😀be safe 👍
do they make some slipons exhaust for it to make it sound like a motorcycle??
Blockhead giggled like a schoolgirl more than you did when he took a livewire for a ride🤣😂
I think something happened to the Speedo….it seemed to get blurry for some reason….😂
I think it's a gopro thing, it seems to happen to a lot of moto vloggers. 😉😁
🤣😂 right!?!?!😂🤣
"and when you wanna slow down you just sit up and use yourself as a sail" Exactly! That's why you see moto gp riders sit up before a turn, they're braking.
Been riding for nearly 3 decades, and I understand Harley trying to not miss a market niche. This is a cool technology demonstrator for Harley as well, but I'll never love taking all the Harley-ness out of a Harley. I will always need the sound and vibration, exhaust smell, etc.
Your moving but no sound
I like the live wire sound though when you speed up!
Like one of them trains
I'm definitely looking forward to a dealership getting the Indian chief dark horse
Plus if sanders still has it I'm going to probably get a z900
if you have Apple TV . watch Ewan McGregor's show the "Long Way Up". they rode modified prototypes of those electric Harley's.
See if they have a VRod would love to see you on one of them.
You are correct. The bike is suitable for urban living, around town, short trip or so. NOT for riders who wants to ride to the mountains or to the next town for a day trip. Or join a premium towing membership.
Yeah it's very sport bike looking. Apart from the cramped riding style, just not enough range for where I live either. Also as you said way too expensive compared to big cruisers / tourers. Maybe in 10 yrs might be enough quick charge stations around to use it.
So what's the range on a full charge?
this was cool. I was thinking about checking out a Zero bike. I think I would miss shifting. Did you miss shifting ?
The range is my biggest issue with it. My best friend has sport bikes that compare to the live wire in performance and we regularly ride 200 miles one way
So, how do you like that Torque!?
I have an electric. Not a live wire but just as fast! Omg I was so intimidated until I figured out how to make a custom mode and took the torque down!! Now it’s got the torque of a scooter. Lol
I’m so glad that Harley came out with it. However they have rebranded it with another company. Is that a mistake? We will see. I’d love to have one but the price would need to come down.
Cheyleesy sure loved that one
AND FLIP
Hehe would love to try one myself one day
Speeds up, Blurs out speedometer* LOL
You know we know you're being naughty when you blur out the speedo.
I wonder if it reached triple digits??!
Love the sound can’t wait to try one..👍🏻🇦🇺
Cool! Dont think I would ever own one though. I also live in a RUAL area. I like the deer to hear me coming. How many miles on a charge? Also heard you mention quicker battery draw on highways. Are you going to test ride the new Harley adventure bike?
Everyone I've seen do a test ride of the Livewire has giggled like girls over the acceleration. Look Flip na was given one to hold onto for a little bit and the whole shade tree Army was giggling like girls when they borrowed it. Weem's had a really good reaction
I like your gloves. Where can I get some.
In Central and South America it’s popular for muggers and hitmen to ride motorcycles on pairs where they can ride up quickly on their targets and getaway. So people have started to become alert to the sound of a loud motorcycle engine. I shudder thinking about them riding e-bikes where there will be no warning and no sound to track.
keep up the great work! can you ride a triumph trident and post a video? would love your opinion!!!
WoW! Amazing you are a great driver! Anyways Keep Safe Always and have a good time...
Cool video but out of topic. How do you make your audio so clear and popping free?
Yes nice bike and you are right it’s to early for it . But that the future of vehicles all electric .
When you cover up bad language you should do it with dog barks🤩🤩😅
I think you are on the money when you say it is to early.
The price is high and the practicality doesn’t make sense Yet.
Great video, thank You for sharing.
I think the Livewire is a motorcycle which you have to ride yourself to experience it! :)
No thanx.
Ignition? What ignited? No gas 😂
It could be all “giggles” and we’d still watch ya!
Last time I went to Bert’s Barricuda here in Clearwater Florida they were promoting the live wire. Sales rep told us a 2021 was selling for around $30,000. Under a 100 miles before charging. My iron 883 gets 54 miles per gallon with a 3.3 gallon peanut tank. I’ll pass on the live wire Jess. ✌️
Just under $30.000 wow ,i like that Harley have made the effort but also in the UK the range of 146 miles is poor ,not enough charging points.
The only problem with the bike is it’s sales 41 have been registered for the road in the UK which is 1 demo bike per dealer 1 press bike and about 8 sales to customers. Dealerships are selling the demo bikes for about £25000 and there is one on E-Bay for £22000 I don’t see many takers even at that price ( full retail on the road is £29000). The bike is fun to ride and is about the best in class it just costs way too much which is sad . I didn’t expect Harley to bring this bike out and can only praise their efforts but at that price it is has been an easy target for those who like to knock harley and those who want Harley to re invent the shovel head and just sell “traditional” Harley’s to it’s core customers.
Charging points only solve half of the problem. Would you want to wait 4-8 hours for it to charge? I don't want to get home at midnight just for a day trip.
@@mattingray5651 The range is very limited once you get out of town at normal road speeds (50 to 80 mph) the bike has a range of about 70 to 80 miles as you don’t recharge under braking. This limited range rather limits the bike to short trips unless you can guarantee that there is a charging point where you are going a 300 mile motorway trip could be unthinkable even with fast charging of 1 to 2 hours.
What is your height? because I am only 5'4 and I do not know if I would be able to drive it because I am short
It would be perfect for me in the city but just too much money.
With time hopefully these come down in price a bit.
The bike would be ideal for my commute to work but the price is prohibitive .It is not society that is not ready it is the product is not right for the market it is aimed at the bike is a city commuter and there are so many bikes that will do the job as well for less. I am hoping that it is a sign of things to come and costs come down rather than Harley killing it off quietly in a few years time . The bike is fun to ride it just costs too much .
That was cool 😎
What city and state you in?
Thanks😊😄
I don't know where she's now, otherwise she's in Ohio.
@@darkiee69 I don't like her channel but it keeps popping up
@@richardhowe5583 You don't have to watch it even if it is recommended to you by UA-cam, you do know that right?
@@richardhowe5583 Or you can click on the three little dot's and tell UA-cam that you're not interested.
@@darkiee69 I did.. Thanks 😊
Livewire is amazing.
Sweet!
So we need a Tesla coil added to it?
That thing is so wicked fast I'm its own way
Cool bike, ill havevti take one gir a spin
I wish the electric bike hand more of a sporster shape to it. The sport bike feel is not for me
Another great video
Awesome video Jess I would like to some day take one for a spin my loved the video keep up the awesome content and great work thx.
Very cool 😎
Thanks for sharing , I know this is coming but it is a No for me, Great video!
Too bad it wasn’t designed as a cruiser. I don’t think it’s electric drive that has made this bike sell so poorly, or even the price. Mostly just the styling. When has Harley been successful with a sport bike style/influence? Certainly not with the Cafe Racer or the Vrod. Harley buyers (not dreamers) love the traditional Harley look. I also am concerned how well the the Pan America will sell, at least until she comes out in cruiser form later. Glad you had fun on your ride Jess, now you can stretch out on your lovely Dyna!
.... I just bought my first gas powered bike, and now this? xD
The noise, I don't think, will be that much of an issue if/when more folks are converted over to electric cars.
My uncle has been a local dealer forever, and he asked me if I'd like to try out a Livewire. The hardest part to get used to is the QUIET. Torque monster though, and I LOVE the "aggressive" mode. But at 28 grand, and a charge to ride ratio of less than 100 miles?...(He DID mention you could buy an optional "Tesla" type charger that reduces charge time to 5 or 6 hours...ahem) Nah. Also, it takes 10 hours to fully charge on the charger that comes with it.
A few more refinements and this may just be the bike of the future.
Oh, and I also absolutely HATED the sportbike "stance" and riding position.
I live in northern Michigan no problem getting fast chargers for my Livewire
If you don't mind riding 100 miles per day and charging it for 10 hours to get a full charge.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 30 minutes for a fast charger
@@bccycle1 Not what I was told by the dealer.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 that’s how mine works with the fast charge the 110 home charger takes 7 to 8 hours
The price tag on those is stupid....and I've heard they are dropping that model next year.
The price is very much a problem. This bike can work for Rual areas like Ohio, but.....your trip better be taking you back to home or work (someplace your be for hours) with at least a 110V outlet. Big city's have the charge network, and thanks to Tesla there are more charge stations then you realize. Now I've been waiting for you to talk about the live-wire. I've been looking at Electric bikes and really want one. The two biggest players at the moment are Zero and Energica. HD did good with getting in with electric as one of the Big motorcycle mfr's. Now I really hope that they do a cruiser version with DC fast charging. You ever need someone to review a HD E-bike for an extended bit just let me know. I will happily volunteer.