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  • @MOTFGAMES
    @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому +5

    www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83bkr8o Heres what I've changed as of late. Some things like Idols arent filled out because I've been playing on other characters lately, but do still plan to revist this in the near future! To note the current standing issues, It still struggles a little bit with survivability around 200+ corruption, but is a bit safer now with flame rush. The build does struggle to clear maps because our DPS is way to targeted and has a long cooldown, so were experimenting with Ice wall specced fire for now.

    • @e-athletemcb
      @e-athletemcb 6 місяців тому

      why are you specced into cycle of fire on the meteor tree?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому +1

      @MZ-ki3ld no reason at all. Once you put the points into mana recovery and the 70% pen no other point matters as its damage is always going to be basically nothing. At some point I plan to experiment with fireball so they're here for now, if you wanna move the shrapnel points and those around feel free to! It won't hurt the build at all

    • @e-athletemcb
      @e-athletemcb 6 місяців тому

      alright! tanks for the build, it feels nice to play, and i was struggling to find a way to play around blackhole!@@MOTFGAMES

  • @tylerjennings9853
    @tylerjennings9853 6 місяців тому +3

    This has to be one of the most helpful, realistic, and descriptive build videos I've seen so far. I really appreciate how you explain point distribution progressively, instead of just showing that you have all of your points allotted up to 100. I struggle to find guides to help craft TOWARDS a build instead of just somehow have all of the points and items available to make the build possible. I also love that you mention different tiers of items to use, so i'm not going in to this thinking "I can't possibly use this build because I don't have access to LP4 uniques yet"... instead I can build something that more or less works to start testing this out.

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому +1

      I'm glad to hear you like it, and i will say that this is definitely the idea I try to keep in mind when making these. I always want to approach these builds trying to make them work without having to invest hundreds of hours scouring for "BIS" gear.

  • @wpeiorfjmoaeksfimpreigfmkpaois
    @wpeiorfjmoaeksfimpreigfmkpaois 6 місяців тому +1

    Fast, transparent and comprehensive video! I wish all build-guides on youtube would be presented like this... keep it up!

  • @earllangcay6637
    @earllangcay6637 7 місяців тому +4

    appreciate your content my guy.

  • @kents012
    @kents012 6 місяців тому +1

    Nice cook! Keep it up! 👏

  • @TriWinning
    @TriWinning 7 місяців тому +3

    great guide i cant wait to try this looks fun

  • @XemnasTM
    @XemnasTM 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the fun build! I personally found using Fireball and the Cinder Song wand to give me better results than using Flame Reave, and also a bit more fun.

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому

      Glad to hear! I've actually dropped flame reave myself for ice wall specced into fire. www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83bkr8o Heres what I've been running on it. If you wanted to see how I've adapted the build since posting, heres my current planner!

  • @Lakosius
    @Lakosius 7 місяців тому +4

    Build it today , its unique , works like a charm

  • @Rub-A-Duck
    @Rub-A-Duck 7 місяців тому +2

    I was hoping there is some good build for blackhole. Over 1 million with that proc looks insane.
    I thought it was trash after trying to use it with the meteor skills. Thanks for the hint!
    Only think I'm sad about it that it doesn't pull enemies anymore.

  • @dixieflatline1189
    @dixieflatline1189 6 місяців тому +1

    Sorc damage is very high, but it always gets to a point where dps isn't enough and it gets overwhelmed in maps. Being great on bosses & dummies won't get you to 500 corruption.
    Finally shifted to RM and everything works better, even with much lower single target. Defense layers are all these, map clear is amazing, facetank bosses. The imbalance is real and I regret putting hours into sorc now.
    Sorc needs better defensive layers next season - Turret DPS as defence doesn't work in the real endgame - something more is needed - maybe mobility / dodge or an equivalent to smoke bomb on rogue. Anyways, thanks for the build and updates

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому

      Absolutely agree. This build is 100% limited by its defensive capability and partially restricted by its ability to effectively clear maps. This is something I've been working on behind the scenes though and will probably do an update to this build soon (spoiler alert... it's ward like always) though I'm not expecting it to get past 300 corruption even still

  • @garysalazar5279
    @garysalazar5279 7 місяців тому +2

    will try!

  • @LugartMovies
    @LugartMovies 7 місяців тому +5

    the damage is more than enough for 150-200 coruption. But the survivability of this build is something with something..... It is very difficult to play solo. The boss is killed in 3-10 sec, but the waves are very difficult to clean. Often there are oneshots, despite the fact that I have 1400hp, all res maxed, etc. Very lack of survivability in the build :( Shield at 800 does not help much, alas ....

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому

      Sadly too true 😭 I'll probably still play it more myself and maybe I can eventually solve this issue. Who knows

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MOTFGAMES There is way to solve issue but the problem with solving issue is that it destroy your damage output. there is a node in Flame rush called "Fire Eater: Whenever you pass through an ignited enemy, gain +24 ward+12*ignite stacks as ward". So with 500 stacks, 12*500 = 6000 ward. This leads me to believe that Sorc is wrong class for this build. You likely want to play spellblade instead. Put 40 points into Sorc, 40 points into spellblade and 5 points into runemaster. Run flame reaver, Enchant weapon, Elemental nova, Black hole, Flame rush as your skills. Flame reaver->Elemental nova will be your melee for trash mob and the default clear. Black hole is your boss killer. Flame rush is your ward generator. Enchant weapon will be the boss killer. The sorc of this build would likely be running Frost claw -> Elemental nova with black hole/Enchant blade/Flame rush but you would likely to solve the large mana issue.

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому

      @dodang_9147 funny enough I've already made the change to flame rush and it's done wonders. So I def think it's the play.

    • @completestranger3171
      @completestranger3171 6 місяців тому

      You can't have Black Hole on a Spellblade, it's only available to Sorc.@@dodang_9147

  • @Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da
    @Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da 13 днів тому

    Imagine potential to this game if skills had customization that is good! oh damn!

  • @MrAllbrother
    @MrAllbrother 6 місяців тому

    flame rush does the same as enchanted weapon, but its also a movement skill

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому

      But when flame rush consumes the ignite it wont deal damage, thats a pretty big loss to dps. I do think its strictly better than teleport though, so I did swap it out eventually for that.

  • @hiigaran4488
    @hiigaran4488 7 місяців тому

    Theres a unique helmet that gives nova more penetration per uncapped res, and like 6 points to it witch you can scale a lot more ignites with, might be interesting to try out.

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +1

      I did just get a 2 lp crest, so I'll experiment with it over flame ward. If nothing else the damage reduction from ignited enemies will help with survivability!

    • @hiigaran4488
      @hiigaran4488 7 місяців тому

      Oh yea for sure, I was running an celestial conflux ignite build but I didn't know the elemental weapon/ignite stack interaction so I wanna try it with that cause I was getting over 1k ignite stacks on certain bosses or up to around 600 -800 on others, defo gonna be a dps boost for it.

  • @Zanatu
    @Zanatu 7 місяців тому

    I found a way to improve survivability.
    I went with Frost claws for clearing. Even with all the added casts putting it at 28 mana, i still maintain nearly capped mana. It adds around 6 ignites a hit (it can multi-hit for even more) for me, and i paired it with Flame Rush's "Fire Eater". So when my ward is low i just flame rush into mobs and get around 500-4000 ward. It does slow clears by a little, but it vastly improves my tankyness.

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому

      That's actually really interesting. We were considering crafting up the legendary nova helm and swaping reave for that to have the damage reduction modifier but large chunks of ward probably beats that out. Great find!

    • @TylerChaney-ou5oq
      @TylerChaney-ou5oq 6 місяців тому

      can you share what you replaced frost claws with? and the skills you took?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому

      Just incase they dont respond, This is a build planner with what I've changed aswell. www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83bkr8o Theres a pinned comment at the top that explains a bit of these changes, and I hope this helps out!

    • @TylerChaney-ou5oq
      @TylerChaney-ou5oq 6 місяців тому

      @@MOTFGAMESthanks for this! Having a lot of fun with this build. Definitely want to try your new changes. Have you updated the loot filter yet? I feel like I am overwhelmed right now with loot and forging lol

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому

      @TylerChaney-ou5oq I haven't because I've been spending alot of time playing the bleed falcon build lately but I'll take another look at it

  • @vKrayToR
    @vKrayToR Місяць тому

    how does this work on current cycle? super interested in the build, awesome video

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  Місяць тому

      While it received some slight buffs, tbh it's not that great of a build. I cannot in good faith recommend it unless it's something you REALLY want to try out.

    • @vKrayToR
      @vKrayToR Місяць тому

      @@MOTFGAMES gotcha, bummer but thanks for the heads up

  • @mrfourtaccivod7913
    @mrfourtaccivod7913 7 місяців тому +2

    really fun, but in the video I see you gain ward on hit, where is that in the build? im destroying monolith but im getting one shotted (while haveing good overall res)

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +1

      From the "Enduring the Storm" monolith I've taken the ward on hit blessing, its not that great tbh since Black hole doesnt "hit' at all, but better than everything else I was offered. Just remember that resistances alone wont be able to keep you safe, and things like % armor, Hybrid HP, and endurance are all very important aswell

  • @stevethefox89
    @stevethefox89 3 місяці тому

    The build seems so original....but life pool is too low...have you tested the build in legendary monolith?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  3 місяці тому

      I have,but alot of updates have been made to the build. Over all I found that stacking int where you can and playing the low life set (Exsang + Last steps + Experimental gloves) helped fixed the builds survivability and let me push around 300 corruption with it, but the damage ends up not being enough to justify going anywhere past that. I think if I kept trying to push LP's higher, it could have reached further but I havent honestly touched the game in about 2 months. Maybe I'll visit it again once 1.1 comes out!

  • @dxshindeo
    @dxshindeo 6 місяців тому +1

    If I would take 0% dmg, this would be fun. but I am long dead before I can do anything

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah survivability has long been an issue this build needs to solve. Its a little bit better since I've swapped to flame rush for movement over teleport, and flame wall instead of reave, but I still feel like its weak for sure. Once I eventually get a well rolled 2-3 lp cinder song I'll re-vist it with fireball and update it if I feel like that solves a few of the builds major issues on mapping

  • @jesseLotus1447
    @jesseLotus1447 7 місяців тому

    great build and video! do you have a loot filter for this build?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +1

      Pinned a comment that should have the loot filter I was using aswell as some details about it. Enjoy!

    • @jesseLotus1447
      @jesseLotus1447 7 місяців тому

      @@MOTFGAMES thank you so much!!!!

  • @vegga1946
    @vegga1946 7 місяців тому

    Maybe an aspirational planner as well with 2LP on each piece

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +1

      www.lastepochtools.com/planner/zQqdwakA Heres one with 1 lp on most pieces, I tried to exclude extremely rare pieces that would obviously be ideal like Omnis, but I think the provides something to work twaords. For context, I believe Fire torch's multiplicative damage bonus will outpace the legendary wands, and Crest of unity might allow us to use nova instead of flame reave, regardless though the damage reduction I think will be valuable. I think the white slots should be used to hedge up weak points in the build, so put anything you need there to get as much defense as possible, same with idols. Also I cannot stress enough that none of this is tested by me, so invest at your own will. GL!

  • @Yindori
    @Yindori 6 місяців тому +1

    what does getting more than 100% ignite chance from heat wave do for you? From heat wave's skill description it also reads in the opposite ratio as you said, 1 to 10 as in 1% uncapped fire res gives you 10% ignite chance (which means 10% over 75 would already give 100% ignite chance?)

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому +1

      Status ailments dont stop at 100%, for each 100%, you deal 1 guaranteed stack of the ailment, and the rest is rolled as normal. So in the case that you have 1050% ignite chance because you have 180% fire resistance, you'll deal 10 ignite every second, with 50% to inflict 11. Hope this helps!

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 6 місяців тому

      status effect has unlimited scaling.

    • @Yindori
      @Yindori 6 місяців тому

      @@MOTFGAMES I see, that definitely explains a lot :) Thank you for the reply, appreciate it! Will be trying out this build for my first mage character

  • @Nyzdos
    @Nyzdos 6 місяців тому +1

    Any update on this build ? Has it gone past 200 corruption ?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому

      www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83bkr8o Heres what I've been running on it. Some things Idols arent filled out because I've been playing on other characters lately, but do still plan to revist this in the near future! To note what I had here before again, It still struggles a little bit with survivability around 200+ corruption, but is a bit safer now with flame rush. The build does struggle to clear maps because our DPS is way to targeted and has a long cooldown, so were experimenting with Ice wall specced fire for now.

  • @Majber
    @Majber 7 місяців тому +1

    I wish I could keep black hole as pure cold damage...

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I've tried finding a way to make it work and nothing has really felt even close to good yet. But black hole already got buffed for the 1.0, so maybe 1.1 will be better!

  • @NostaleUp
    @NostaleUp 6 місяців тому

    i wondering if frost claw convertet to fire/ignite would be better for the build for mono clears, because there is a frostbite build where you can stack like 999 what is when i build it to ignite with the release skill insane maybe? :D

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  6 місяців тому

      I've been trying it, but the damage is PITIFULLY weak when I do, mostly because our build doesnt stack ignite on hit for the frost claw to proc. I'm looking into getting a 2lp Cinder song and seeing how fireball feels from there, but in the mean time I've actually really liked using Frost wall speced into fire in reave's place

  • @multiclassing1016
    @multiclassing1016 5 місяців тому +1

    Iain? That you?)

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  5 місяців тому

      Nope! Hope you enjoyed the content

  • @bis444
    @bis444 7 місяців тому

    how did you respec you like this ? did you can change your masteries?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +1

      You cannot change your mastery pick but you can respec points at any of the locations with an NPC who has a purple brain looking icon. Just talk to her and click on the points you want to remove from your tree! Hope this helps

  • @xenon9z
    @xenon9z 7 місяців тому

    Build seems insane but i have a question concerning the last epoch tools guide, why 450+% fire res ? Is there a scaling with it that i missed ?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +2

      Yeah we stack it for the passive heat wave in black hole, around the 2:52 time stamp. Without this node we'd have actually no damage as this is what's applying all our ignite chance. Hope this helped!

    • @xenon9z
      @xenon9z 7 місяців тому

      @@MOTFGAMES Oh okay i get it, thanks !

  • @honnycorns1
    @honnycorns1 7 місяців тому

    Does the Ignite chance on the passive tree work with Black Hole? I was told in chat that it does not Hit therefore doesnt benefit from Ignite on hit

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому

      So I'm guessing you mean either Arcane flames (Triggers on hit) or Lava mancer, for both you're correct that black hole does not hit and would not get the "hit" portion of these effects . For lava mancer, we still want the % fire damage that comes across from it, and for Arcane flames, even though black hole doesnt hit, were still running flame reave or meteor, which do hit to trigger its effect. Hope this helps!

  • @Marcuskajbaj
    @Marcuskajbaj 7 місяців тому

    Is there any loot filter for leveling finding decent gear along the way?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому

      www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/eoyZR2Al This is what I came up with. It might be a little to strict if you arent in monoliths, as it will hide damn near anything that isnt exalteds. But it still highlights important affixes at they drop, so it should still help.

  • @faflafaflev3899
    @faflafaflev3899 7 місяців тому

    what corruption you are clearing/pushing with this build?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +1

      I haven't pushed to far past 120 as I'm still focusing on making more content, which sadly means I have to spread my time across alot of different builds. The damage of the build seems more than enough to push 200 with 0 upgrades , but I worry more about its durability as we trade alot of defensive power for more damage due to stacking fire resist.

  • @magumumu
    @magumumu 7 місяців тому

    What number of monolite can you make with this build?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому

      Im not sure how far it can push, but I've cleared up to 150 corruption comfortably with it. I think with 0 gear changes I could get to 200 with no issues.

  • @ferial5359
    @ferial5359 7 місяців тому

    Why stack fire resistance so much?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому

      Hey! For every 1% of Fire res we have over cap we gain 10% ignite chance on black hole. This is the entire premise of the build and the only thing that makes it work. Hope you enjoy!

  • @CyxapbSht
    @CyxapbSht 7 місяців тому

    I don't know how you keep yourself alive with that build, I have all res 75 (and fire near 300), I've got 1900 armor, 96% crit avoidance, 1120 hp but in corruption lvl 150+ I'm dying too fast, what am I missing?

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому

      Biggest thing I've had help me survive and clear safely is pro-active use of flame barrier, as the damage reduction is actually very large.. And honestly not actively fighting mobs but rather just teleporting past them so they follow and dropping the black hole in their path, maybe stopping just long enough so they will also stop ontop of it. Its def a bit rough, until you're able to start adding more HP with things like Hybrid HP exalteds, and more Endurance threshold, but those upgrades will take time.

    • @CyxapbSht
      @CyxapbSht 7 місяців тому +1

      @@MOTFGAMES yeah, flame ward is cool, but it's cd ~15 seconds with all reduces from gear and passive tree so on high corruption you will die, still cool build, thanks!

  • @sababoba4506
    @sababoba4506 7 місяців тому +2

    Thx for gude, can you link loot filter Please :)

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +3

      www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/eoyZR2Al Its a little to strict atm, so you should still check exalteds occasionally until you feel like you've got a good set-up. I also dont have it to look for rare affixes like hybrid HP so keep that in mind,

    • @sababoba4506
      @sababoba4506 7 місяців тому +1

      Thx a lot. have a nice day

  • @christianvasileff4998
    @christianvasileff4998 7 місяців тому

    Sadly runemaster ignite build blows this out of the water

    • @nephorium6160
      @nephorium6160 7 місяців тому +1

      Glyph of Dominion Ignite? I think it probably has much better clear but this might have better boss dps.

    • @christianvasileff4998
      @christianvasileff4998 7 місяців тому

      @@nephorium6160 bull you clearly haven’t played it, it melts anything and everything sorcery just isn’t viable sadly

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +1

      @christianvasileff4998 I mean I'm cleaning corrupted monos just fine so that's viable no? Def won't say it's better than other options put absolutely playable

    • @nephorium6160
      @nephorium6160 7 місяців тому +2

      @@christianvasileff4998 No I haven't played it. I haven't played a maxed version of this either. I don't have the time to max out 30 different builds in 6 days which is why I watch videos and read guides to find out which one(s) I'm going to play.
      This video didn't show many clears but in this video and Dreadful's video the clears were better than any of the ones I saw in Ignite Glyph of Dominion videos. Dreadful even stated in his video about it that the clear was much better for Glyph of Dominion but the Black Hole edged it out for dps because of sorc's ignite duration. If you have actual info to the contrary, I wouldn't mind seeing it.
      Finally, what metric are you using to say sorc "isn't viable". It's been demonstrated to clear everything until pretty high corruption and T4 bosses even with builds whose runemaster variants are direct upgrades.

    • @christianvasileff4998
      @christianvasileff4998 7 місяців тому

      @@MOTFGAMES all I was saying is it pales in comparison to runemaster sadly

  • @רןקובסנאנו
    @רןקובסנאנו 7 місяців тому

    can you add your email to the about

    • @MOTFGAMES
      @MOTFGAMES  7 місяців тому +2

      I can't say I'm comfortable doing that as I have many things tied to that email, but I do have a discord server where you're free to contact me any time at :)