Everybody makes mistakes, but it is important to own those mistakes when they do occur. It was nice that you acknowledged the boat yard for making it right. Glad everything turned out ok for you guys. Stay safe out there
It can be tough to remember in the moment that mistakes can happen. But I was pleased with the way the yard worked to do the repairs exactly as I wanted.
This was a fantastic video.... Especially for those of us still in the early planning stages. It gives an opportunity to really get an idea of what to prepare for & also a lesson that sh*t happens unexpectedly requiring you to have to adjust course, so to speak.
Kharma. Clearly, you insulted some Indo island god. A sacrifice was demanded! ;) Seriously sorry about your run of bad luck, but she's a tough girl and you have been taking good care of her. "Her" being Starry Horizons. I have no idea how well you have been taking care of Amy. Thank you for showing us your experience, warts and all, as we all learn from your (mis)adventures!
At 19:34 you can see the fumes/smoke from the lines getting trapped under your hat. Try not to breathe too much of that stuff. First, take off your hat. Next, do it in a well ventilated area if possible. Stay safe! Very glad that this boat yard was much better than the last. At least they owned up to their error. In my opinion, it's not whether someone makes mistakes, it is how thy handle them that shows their character.
To be fair to PSS, they did own their mistake and tried to make things right as well. But the fact that they were less than helpful on almost everything else left a rather sour taste in my mouth.
We knew this was a tough time for both of you since we got to speak on the telephone. Still, it was rough to watch. Nice ending. Especially loved the commentary.
I have always marked the bulkhead with a small colored paint strip just below the toe rail. Minimises the chance of blocking/lifting straps missing the bulkhead
Fountaine Pajot did add some stickers under the toe rail as guidelines for where lifting straps should go, but they're more to make sure that the straps don't interfere with the sail drive or mini keel. Normally we get blocked under our mini keels, but if we ever have to do something like this again, I may very well mark the bulkheads somehow!
@@OutChasingStars I did black bar for non lift points, transducers / center boards and such. Did a green on marking bulkheads and yellow one marking center of mass/balance point. We did it because not eveyone will know your boat the same way you will know your boat
One of the many things my Mother has said to me is that, " It's not what happens to you in life, it's how you deal with what happens to you in life that determines who you are as a person." David, I thought that you did a great job dealing with the setbacks.
Thank you. It can be easy to let your emotions run away from you, especially in stressful moments. But I try to take a few deep breaths and remind myself that 'this too shall pass.'
Wow, this has been a bit of a rough run for you. I am glad the yard took care you it though and that it all ended more positively. As they say, there are those sailors who have hit reefs, and then those who lie about it!
I installed the same reinforcement kits on my escape hatches, but I installed the reinforcements on the inside with the screw captured in the hole. But, I also have a Salina that was produced before Goiot changed hands and apparently sealant vendors.
Funny looking at the tractor hauling ye out at 4 mins 47 seconds. It started out its life in Ireland in County Cork. My town where I live. Wonder how it got there lol?
A few good lessons here. This is one big reason to not have a balsa core boat. Bumps will happen. And how has FP not done a factory recall on those hatches??? How has owners not held them responsible? But looks like a good yard. Thank you for that. Good video. And I’m sure you were very upset from these issues. Well done communicating and recording it. People need to know it’s not all breaches and sea turtles. Great job
The boat yard seems to have made a fair attempt to block your boat properly, but mistakes happen, they took ownership and made it right though so kudos to the yard.
You should have clearly marked the bulkheads/lift points when you bought the boat. That usually saves a lot of high blood pressure headaches at haul outs.
Finding the bulkhead is a pretty critical function for the yard to be able to do. Our boat is normally blocked under the mini-keels but plenty of others require support under the bulkheads. I did walk around with the yard and told them where I thought the bulkheads were, but they did the final "sounding" of the hull and placed the blocks.
You mentioned that you were coming to South Africa When do you think you will be here in South Africa Where do you plan on stopping in SA We are about 600km from the closest port/coast, however depending on date and location we might be able to come say Hi!! Would be nice
We are hoping to be in South Africa late October/early November and working our way around towards Cape Town by New Years. Definitely keep track of us on our Facebook page as that will be a lot more up to date!
Cape Town has its own international Boat show in October(probably too early for you guys), and as we are still looking and learning, we will be at the Cape Town show Will keep an eye on your FB page and see if we can come meet you guys and say Hi. depending on location and date - Cape Town is far from us(for a quick drive), Durban and Richards Bay are closer to us(around 600km) As for Richards Bay, Delos also stopped at Richards Bay, when they were in SA, and that did not look like a nice experience, from the radio operator at the Port (can't remember the other issues off hand) Soon after that they moved to Durban
We don't generally break out costs at that level of detail, but you can check out our large bucket expenses on our blog: outchasingstars.com/category/sailing/expenses/
Why isn’t the position of each bulkhead clearly marked on the hull? If it was done under the bridge deck, no one would ever see it at all. I think all the boats should have this when they come out of the factory. Even a few small marks on the outside wouldn’t be seen unless you were looking for them. Hind sight and armchair quarterbacks like this comment must be tedious so thanks for the video and fair winds. Hope your luck changes sooner than later.
The boat is normally supposed to be blocked under the mini-keels and doesn't need additional bulkhead support. This was a very rare situation. But some sort of marks could be useful if we have to do something like this again in the future.
Out Chasing Stars I didn’t mean to be critical. I was complaining a little more about what your boat manufacturer could have done for you. I really do appreciate following your travels. Fair winds.
I'm sorry for all the problems you had. It seems all cruisers have them at one time or another. Looked like a very capable boat yard and one willing to correct their own mistakes. Good choice. Look forward to the next episode. Your friend from Syracuse New York 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I'm certainly willing to admit that we've hit bottom before. Sand in the Bahamas, mud in New Zealand and sinking into the mud in Thailand wasn't ideal. But I'm pretty sure this is the first time we've actually hit a reef.
this is the main reason why “do it right or don’t even started” must be always observed. for some reason majority of humans has tendency to be lazy and ignorant.
I absolutely love how your channel brings the genuine reality of cruising and all the jobs that go with ownership of a serious adventure vessel
We really appreciate that. This is an incredible life, but it's not without it's drawbacks.
Everybody makes mistakes, but it is important to own those mistakes when they do occur. It was nice that you acknowledged the boat yard for making it right. Glad everything turned out ok for you guys. Stay safe out there
Finding someone who will admit their mistakes can be rare. And to go to significant lengths to fix those mistakes is even rarer.
@@OutChasingStars But these r professional guys and should not be making silly mistakes rt ?
Awesome video! very educational... I was sorry to see the cracked glass from the block. Though it looks like you found a great boatyard.
It can be tough to remember in the moment that mistakes can happen. But I was pleased with the way the yard worked to do the repairs exactly as I wanted.
Thanks guys for sharing all your adventures, as always, so useful!!!
This was a fantastic video.... Especially for those of us still in the early planning stages. It gives an opportunity to really get an idea of what to prepare for & also a lesson that sh*t happens unexpectedly requiring you to have to adjust course, so to speak.
It can be a very painful lesson to learn, but it's an absolutely critical one for this kind of lifestyle.
Superb episode guys, really captured the feel of the experience. Fair winds.
Yeah, this won't be a video I watch in the future for fond memories, but it will definitely stand out as a memorable moment! 😂
Happy endings are always good and welcomed !! :-)
Would putting paint marks on the hulls where the bulk heads are help to line up the blocks?
It probably would. But normally the boat is blocked under the mini-keels so the bulk head support wouldn't be needed.
Great job! Sorry about the bad luck in the yard, but look on the bright side.... you got yourself an awesome hat!!!
Excellent video brother
Great video guys thanks for sharing
It's good that the boatyard fixed the damage they cause, hopefully not at your expense.
I give the yard full credit for the way they fixed the issue. But it sure would have been nice if it hadn't happened in the first place.
Great video, very entertaining, thanks.
7:36 that looks like Bondo, which is vinylester resin. It is important to know if it is epoxy or other for the sake of future repairs.
B.O..A.T 😎. It never ends eh? Glad you got it all sorted guys 😊⛵️
Kharma. Clearly, you insulted some Indo island god. A sacrifice was demanded! ;)
Seriously sorry about your run of bad luck, but she's a tough girl and you have been taking good care of her. "Her" being Starry Horizons. I have no idea how well you have been taking care of Amy. Thank you for showing us your experience, warts and all, as we all learn from your (mis)adventures!
At 19:34 you can see the fumes/smoke from the lines getting trapped under your hat. Try not to breathe too much of that stuff. First, take off your hat. Next, do it in a well ventilated area if possible. Stay safe!
Very glad that this boat yard was much better than the last. At least they owned up to their error. In my opinion, it's not whether someone makes mistakes, it is how thy handle them that shows their character.
To be fair to PSS, they did own their mistake and tried to make things right as well. But the fact that they were less than helpful on almost everything else left a rather sour taste in my mouth.
We knew this was a tough time for both of you since we got to speak on the telephone. Still, it was rough to watch. Nice ending. Especially loved the commentary.
Knowing we had another important guest coming soon certainly helped us get through it!
I have always marked the bulkhead with a small colored paint strip just below the toe rail. Minimises the chance of blocking/lifting straps missing the bulkhead
Fountaine Pajot did add some stickers under the toe rail as guidelines for where lifting straps should go, but they're more to make sure that the straps don't interfere with the sail drive or mini keel. Normally we get blocked under our mini keels, but if we ever have to do something like this again, I may very well mark the bulkheads somehow!
@@OutChasingStars I did black bar for non lift points, transducers / center boards and such. Did a green on marking bulkheads and yellow one marking center of mass/balance point. We did it because not eveyone will know your boat the same way you will know your boat
One of the many things my Mother has said to me is that, " It's not what happens to you in life, it's how you deal with what happens to you in life that determines who you are as a person." David, I thought that you did a great job dealing with the setbacks.
Thank you. It can be easy to let your emotions run away from you, especially in stressful moments. But I try to take a few deep breaths and remind myself that 'this too shall pass.'
@@OutChasingStars The 3 P's of boat repairs, Patience, Perseverance and Profanity. That seems to work for me just fine.
Wow, this has been a bit of a rough run for you. I am glad the yard took care you it though and that it all ended more positively. As they say, there are those sailors who have hit reefs, and then those who lie about it!
It certainly can't be all sunshine and rainbows. Having so many friends and family come visit us definitely helped get us through the tough times!
Thanks for sharing the "reality/challenges" of cruising. 👍😊⛵👍😊⛵👍😊⛵
Everything is the reality of cruising. But this definitely was on the more challenging side of the spectrum!
I installed the same reinforcement kits on my escape hatches, but I installed the reinforcements on the inside with the screw captured in the hole. But, I also have a Salina that was produced before Goiot changed hands and apparently sealant vendors.
Pretty disappointed in Goiot, but I'm glad we were able to do the reinforcement before heading out into the Indian Ocean!
Funny looking at the tractor hauling ye out at 4 mins 47 seconds. It started out its life in Ireland in County Cork. My town where I live. Wonder how it got there lol?
Clearly Ireland must build good tractors! :)
Hope all the bad luck is behind you guys, thanks for sharing.
We tried extra hard to top up the "boat karma" and it seems to have helped!
Man, i love your CAT!!!!!! It really is beautiful!!!
Thanks! We rather like her as well. :D
A few good lessons here. This is one big reason to not have a balsa core boat. Bumps will happen.
And how has FP not done a factory recall on those hatches??? How has owners not held them responsible?
But looks like a good yard. Thank you for that. Good video. And I’m sure you were very upset from these issues. Well done communicating and recording it. People need to know it’s not all breaches and sea turtles. Great job
The boat yard seems to have made a fair attempt to block your boat properly, but mistakes happen, they took ownership and made it right though so kudos to the yard.
You should have clearly marked the bulkheads/lift points when you bought the boat. That usually saves a lot of high blood pressure headaches at haul outs.
I'm glad that they owned up to their mistake and did right by you.
Just saw a For Sale advert for "Julia". Thought you might not have heard.
How is the boatyard supposed to know where the bulkhead is? It’s your boat you should’ve told them
Finding the bulkhead is a pretty critical function for the yard to be able to do. Our boat is normally blocked under the mini-keels but plenty of others require support under the bulkheads. I did walk around with the yard and told them where I thought the bulkheads were, but they did the final "sounding" of the hull and placed the blocks.
Uhh, no. That's literally what you pay for.
You mentioned that you were coming to South Africa
When do you think you will be here in South Africa
Where do you plan on stopping in SA
We are about 600km from the closest port/coast, however depending on date and location we might be able to come say Hi!! Would be nice
We are hoping to be in South Africa late October/early November and working our way around towards Cape Town by New Years. Definitely keep track of us on our Facebook page as that will be a lot more up to date!
Cape Town has its own international Boat show in October(probably too early for you guys), and as we are still looking and learning, we will be at the Cape Town show
Will keep an eye on your FB page and see if we can come meet you guys and say Hi. depending on location and date - Cape Town is far from us(for a quick drive), Durban and Richards Bay are closer to us(around 600km)
As for Richards Bay, Delos also stopped at Richards Bay, when they were in SA, and that did not look like a nice experience, from the radio operator at the Port (can't remember the other issues off hand)
Soon after that they moved to Durban
Your explanation was okay, but what was the cost of the haul-out repair?
We don't generally break out costs at that level of detail, but you can check out our large bucket expenses on our blog: outchasingstars.com/category/sailing/expenses/
nice
As hard as you try to keep your boat perfect sometimes sh*t happens. But at least you kept your cool.
Starry Horizons is no dock queen, that's for sure. But a few bumps and bruises is just proof of the adventure she's on. :)
Why isn’t the position of each bulkhead clearly marked on the hull? If it was done under the bridge deck, no one would ever see it at all. I think all the boats should have this when they come out of the factory. Even a few small marks on the outside wouldn’t be seen unless you were looking for them. Hind sight and armchair quarterbacks like this comment must be tedious so thanks for the video and fair winds. Hope your luck changes sooner than later.
I agree. On a car there are little marks where you put the jack. If it were my boat I’d do that
The boat is normally supposed to be blocked under the mini-keels and doesn't need additional bulkhead support. This was a very rare situation. But some sort of marks could be useful if we have to do something like this again in the future.
Out Chasing Stars I didn’t mean to be critical. I was complaining a little more about what your boat manufacturer could have done for you. I really do appreciate following your travels. Fair winds.
Inexperienced caused the crack. Hope they reinforced it well.
They did. I consulted with several marine experts I trust and the yard fixed the problem exactly how I requested.
Is it because of the mistake of the officer who moved your sailboat?
I'm sorry for all the problems you had. It seems all cruisers have them at one time or another. Looked like a very capable boat yard and one willing to correct their own mistakes. Good choice.
Look forward to the next episode.
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We say cruising can be the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. Weathering the lows can really suck, but the highs do make it worth it.
I just use tin snips and a cigarette lighter to do ropes. Seems to work just fine.
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Hit a reef AGAIN......
I'm certainly willing to admit that we've hit bottom before. Sand in the Bahamas, mud in New Zealand and sinking into the mud in Thailand wasn't ideal. But I'm pretty sure this is the first time we've actually hit a reef.
@@OutChasingStars I'm not knocking you just be careful.
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Oh no! Hope everything will be ok!
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this is the main reason why “do it right or don’t even started” must be always observed. for some reason majority of humans has tendency to be lazy and ignorant.
HELLO!!!! LOOK AT WHERE U GOT PULLED OUT AT. NOT AMERICA