"I expect Nottingham Forest to be punished" | Rob Dorsett reacts to Mic'd Up admission

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    Rob Dorsett discusses the head of Premier League referees Howard Webb admitting that Nottingham Forest should have been awarded a penalty in their 2-0 defeat at Everton.
    Dorsett dissects the fall-out and says he expects Nottingham Forest to be punished for their reaction to the incidents.
    Dorsett also discusses Howard Webb revealing that the PGMOL would like referees to talk directly to the crowd.
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  • @supra4lif3
    @supra4lif3 15 днів тому +73

    wrong! sky is so out of touch with fans.

  • @Ctalentless
    @Ctalentless 15 днів тому +66

    Refs need to start being fined

    • @i.m1981
      @i.m1981 15 днів тому +1

      That's silly. Everyone makes mistakes in their jobs. Not many people get fined for it.

    • @adam.677
      @adam.677 15 днів тому

      ​@@i.m1981It's hardly stacking the shelves at tesco is it!! If this was air traffic control, do you think they would allow mistakes? Do you think people would still have their job after making a big mistake? The short answer is NO ... and in some jobs if you make a mistake, you go to prison. You are living in such a fake rainbow world you can't see past your own blinkers!! Get a grip

    • @user-tm5zb5yf8c
      @user-tm5zb5yf8c 15 днів тому +5

      @AemondBlackKiller and players need to be confronted after the games by the media, telling them all the times they clearly cheated by diving, feigning injury, claiming for throwings they know they shouldnt have. When that day comes I will support your point.

    • @mockinghyena960
      @mockinghyena960 15 днів тому +2

      ​@@i.m1981 Yeah, but some great mistakes have no excuse though. Footballers get fined for some mistakes

    • @steventhompson9894
      @steventhompson9894 14 днів тому

      ​@@user-tm5zb5yf8cI agree. It goes both ways

  • @mustolourien5823
    @mustolourien5823 15 днів тому +13

    VAR has been used to decide and not officate matches. Forest are spot on.

  • @Issa_disgrace
    @Issa_disgrace 15 днів тому +15

    Forest can't be punished if they use the arteta defence.

  • @Bert-lw1ot
    @Bert-lw1ot 15 днів тому +41

    What about the officials? Will they be punished? Nah, it'll be fine 😂

    • @-_Blitz_-
      @-_Blitz_- 15 днів тому

      What about the amount of diving that goes on? We gonna punish players too?

    • @Bert-lw1ot
      @Bert-lw1ot 14 днів тому +3

      @@-_Blitz_- that’s what yellow cards are for

    • @-_Blitz_-
      @-_Blitz_- 14 днів тому

      @@Bert-lw1ot How many times do you see them not given? And I don't think I've ever seen a second yellow for diving

    • @whoknew2273
      @whoknew2273 14 днів тому +1

      They be sent to the Middle East for retraining lol

  • @CorfeCastle.
    @CorfeCastle. 15 днів тому +7

    Refs and the PGMOL need to be reprimanded for awful performance

  • @Greenghost3k
    @Greenghost3k 15 днів тому +6

    It’s like Sky and PGMOL are relatives.

  • @SVD978
    @SVD978 15 днів тому +36

    So, let me get this straight. You expect Forest to be punished just for appealing a wrongful decision?

    • @Kuddochan
      @Kuddochan 15 днів тому +5

      No, what makes this stand out is they questioned the integrity of the game by basically accusing the VAR of match fixing because of being a Luton supporter. The previous incidents with clubs complaining was just saying that decisions were bad, this one was an accusation of cheating. Unless they have actual evidence of their claims then you can understand why the league wouldn't be happy about having its integrity brought into dispute.
      The standards of refereeing in this league has become woeful but I'm not sure this is the right way to try to lament it.

    • @nathanwhitehouse8237
      @nathanwhitehouse8237 15 днів тому +3

      ​@@Kuddochan If the claims of bias are true though and there is a luton connection and forest are telling the true about the connection then they are right to bring that to the attention of the public.

    • @thomasmarting
      @thomasmarting 15 днів тому +4

      Forrest is stating that they raised the issue before the match and exactly what they feared would happen, occurred during the match.

    • @nathanwhitehouse8237
      @nathanwhitehouse8237 15 днів тому +1

      @thomasmarting If they did raise it and the connections are true then then the game should be called into question

    • @whoknew2273
      @whoknew2273 14 днів тому

      yes for calling out the PGMOL BS

  • @davenaicker4115
    @davenaicker4115 15 днів тому +7

    Nonsense. 3 penalties but ONLY 1 was legit and denied by referee. They just saying 1 to cover their arse. Imagine JUST IMAGINE IF THEY SAID TWO PENALTIES WERE LEGIT.

  • @phillewington2705
    @phillewington2705 15 днів тому +19

    typical sky pundits and reporters we all know you have regular meetings to not say anything about the pgmol or the premier league no talk of constant errors though

  • @user-mg5cm4vs3m
    @user-mg5cm4vs3m 15 днів тому +45

    PGMOL is a joke and an embarrassment to the game, the regulator should investigate them. They have ruined the premier League this year. To punish a club for that statement is fair play, they have been punished for they have lost the points for the game. I'm not a NF fan but this incident was disgusting. I call on all fans to peacefully demonstrate your dissatisfaction with the PGMOL, perhaps by turning your backs at the start of the final game of the season and/or not cheering or chanting in the final games of the season. I also encourage you to write to your MP, the Premier League and the FA expressing your disappointment with the officiating at games and the possible conflicts of interest that have arisen. It's us FANs that the game belongs too, if like me all you want is for the results to be fair and honest then I think we need to be unified and stand up for rights to have the best quality games.

  • @paulstones1451
    @paulstones1451 15 днів тому +46

    Forest shouldn't be punished they were just speaking their mind

    • @creepingbrain
      @creepingbrain 15 днів тому +5

      They were being whiny babies because a decision went against them. Every club has decisions go against them. Forest need fining for bringing the game into disrepute, and an additional fine for being whiny babies.

    • @paulstones1451
      @paulstones1451 15 днів тому +11

      @creepingbrain again speaking there mind, it's not crying

    • @neilfound3506
      @neilfound3506 15 днів тому +1

      Haven’t seen a tweet complaining about officials getting wrong when it’s in their favour

    • @25784lazza
      @25784lazza 15 днів тому +1

      Nothing to do with whining about mistakes, questioning the integrity of Atwell brings the game into disrepute hence why the punishment.

  • @mikeyboy67
    @mikeyboy67 15 днів тому +9

    Never mind forest I think some of these so called sky pundits need to be fined for the rubbish they spout !!!

  • @JollyRedGiant
    @JollyRedGiant 15 днів тому +15

    Not a Nottingham forest fan. The league has been disappointing to watch this season with the corruption, totally taking away from the beauty of the game.

  • @laurasands8322
    @laurasands8322 15 днів тому +4

    Punished for pointing out the obvious, drawing attention to Premier League referees and how inept they are, paid massive amounts of money and they are still hopeless, the big teams always get the decisions in their favour.

  • @reecepage8322
    @reecepage8322 15 днів тому +23

    Punished for freedom of speech? How about punish the incompetent officiating

    • @hari23
      @hari23 14 днів тому

      Lmao, you can't just go around and accuse people of stuff and claim freedom of speech.

  • @warren2488
    @warren2488 15 днів тому +13

    This leagues a joke 😂😂

  • @Kenyan_254.
    @Kenyan_254. 15 днів тому +18

    First punish Manchester city

  • @markfarnon6742
    @markfarnon6742 15 днів тому +2

    The way the FA, Pgmol and all the media have closed ranks on this is quite disturbing. No wonder fans talk about a conspiracy.

  • @chrismeakin7830
    @chrismeakin7830 15 днів тому +2

    No way, was their only 1 genuine pen. First 2 have been given all season, but not on this occasion. Just admitting an error on the third, is garbage., and trying to use damage limitation. On the third one, it’s obvious people will question the Luton connection, as it looks impossible to get wrong. He simply has to state to the ref, that he didn’t get the ball.

  • @marcpoultney5753
    @marcpoultney5753 15 днів тому +2

    Hold on, they freely admit that the VAR just blatantly didn't do their job and the fact he is a Luton Fan has to be considered, bias could have easily played a part. He's only human and shouldn't have been involved in that game period. Anyone that truly knows football also knows that it was two penalties that should have been awarded. But they won't admit to two because it now opens up a whole lot more trouble for them.

  • @dazzlarnic5732
    @dazzlarnic5732 15 днів тому +3

    DISAGREE REGARDING SEPARATION OF ISSUES. THEY ARE CONNECTED. ONE AS A RESULT OF ANOTHER

  • @tahmidulislam1150
    @tahmidulislam1150 15 днів тому +1

    Unbelievable! Just because Nottingham Forest stated their own opinion regarding the abysmal implementation of VAR they're expected to be punished 🤔. It's ridiculous

  • @TyrellMunson
    @TyrellMunson 15 днів тому +1

    Forest will always be respected by proper football fans for standing up for themselves and saying what we all think!
    17 calls going against them this season..if you watch the compilation its hard not to think something weirds going on here!

  • @user-ft7zr1zq4q
    @user-ft7zr1zq4q 15 днів тому +7

    Fans irrespective of club affiliations should call out PGMOL for their consistent poor officiating. You cannot say Nottingham Forest were hard done by and then say they should be punished. Utter rubbish; they get hard done by in the Liverpool and Everton games and you don’t want them to cry out. It is the officials that are bringing the game to disrepute

    • @saylortusk8489
      @saylortusk8489 15 днів тому

      Forest also v Man United, Brentford, Brighton at least. The Forest list of shambolic refereeing decisions this year is particularly and shamefully and incomprehensibly long, which is why they hired Clattenburg in the first place.

  • @samsonmuisyo6990
    @samsonmuisyo6990 15 днів тому +3

    Sky sports pundits are a big shame. Nottingham was upset by stupid decisions by the ref and VAR.

    • @saylortusk8489
      @saylortusk8489 15 днів тому

      "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair

  • @Richard-ro7yz
    @Richard-ro7yz 15 днів тому +1

    Not a forest fan. This is ridiculous, Sky should be ashamed to be the mouth piece of Howard Web, they should have had 2 to 3 penalties. I’m with forest on this.

  • @Lewbcon
    @Lewbcon 15 днів тому +1

    Sky Sports still hitting new lows - impressive

  • @stephenelder2783
    @stephenelder2783 15 днів тому +1

    Luton have requested a 10 point deduction

  • @Dean256
    @Dean256 15 днів тому +1

    Sky have been very critical of NFFC but to be honest I think a lot of good has come out of the statement as it has made the FA and everyone else involved investigate this publicly. If they have complained privately nothing would have happened and it would have been forgotten about. I commend NFFC for doing what they did…

  • @somiarehman4427
    @somiarehman4427 15 днів тому +1

    This is sucking up to the PGMOL. Punished for speaking their mind rather that then stay quiet. Up the reds❤.

  • @historymatters6627
    @historymatters6627 15 днів тому +1

    The decisions all season that have gone in favor of Man City should be scrutinised. The refs are human too, and there is so much money in football that there is no way we can pretend that no bias or worse is going on just because.

  • @jamm8284
    @jamm8284 15 днів тому +2

    It's just f*cking hilarious at this point that you punish someone for their opinion yet let mistake after, in my opinion, bias "mistakes" from the "professionals" at the top of the game, go unpunished.
    There are clear and obvious errors/incorrect decisions that have cost several clubs £millions, while the refs go off on private jobs in the middle east.
    You are stopping FA cup replays, how about you stop refs from doing extra jobs in case they get injured and the prem pays for their sick days or they are jet lagged and can't follow the match.

  • @chairhead64
    @chairhead64 13 днів тому

    Where is the audio for the other two Pens?! I don't care if Forest have intimated match fixing because thats what it looks like, to be punished for making a statement to that effect is frankly absurd

  • @poeticmic6219
    @poeticmic6219 15 днів тому +1

    All football fans stand united with forest. Officiating is either corrupt or inadequate and its ruining our sport. UTV

  • @user-wi7fq6bb3s
    @user-wi7fq6bb3s 15 днів тому +2

    And how do you expect to punish pgmol?

    • @tonysobevski9961
      @tonysobevski9961 15 днів тому

      Take them to court. Use there own evidence againts them. They admit that they got the call wrong. Bring the video with ya , show the judge. With that wrong call that u have admitted u got wrong, your own video proves this.. we've been relegated now, we will loose sponsorship and a lot of revenue money not being in the premier league anymore. As now we r in the efl championship, there can't be a counter argument or the judge disagreeing on the matter.. pgmol have brought in there own evidence to prove this.. shot themselves in the foot.

  • @daviduno2024
    @daviduno2024 15 днів тому +1

    They're punished enough already! If they get relegated it's because they've been at the back of very poor decisions alongside Wolves, United too have also had shocking decisions.

  • @oarabiletshelane7078
    @oarabiletshelane7078 15 днів тому +1

    How do you separate the reaction from the cause of the reaction 🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-zc4yd9ss7h
    @user-zc4yd9ss7h 15 днів тому +1

    Punished for saying the truth.

  • @AD77BOI
    @AD77BOI 15 днів тому +1

    “Separate the incidents from the reaction to the incidents” - Are they being serious?

  • @Jmastives
    @Jmastives 15 днів тому +1

    Lack of class posting a pic of him eith a herpe. Very bad show sky. Awful and childish

  • @benscott7476
    @benscott7476 15 днів тому +1

    Forest shouldn’t be punished for telling the truth…this league is riddled with cheats. Players, officials and var are all culpable…fed up with it.

  • @jaysenjohn304
    @jaysenjohn304 14 днів тому

    How come the referees are not getting punished instead of the clubs.

  • @sneakyi
    @sneakyi 15 днів тому

    They didn't get 2 right. They said it was subjective.

  • @shadowSephiroth
    @shadowSephiroth 15 днів тому +1

    Sky is an embarrassment. Criticise the refs and PGMOL if you dare. They screwed up. You guys don't let a manager off the hook if he screwed up. Shame on you Sky.

  • @JennFaeAge
    @JennFaeAge 15 днів тому +1

    Re: refs talking to the crowd, even putting aside that it was allowed at the Women's World Cup (not sure why the rules guys allowed that but not in general) pretty much every referee I've seen talk about it have said they want it, so I'm genuinely curious what argument IFAB think there is to say no

  • @JohnWoo
    @JohnWoo 15 днів тому

    Why have Atwell on a VAR for a match with their relegation rivals anyway? Just avoid the whole fiasco by having a different ref who isn't from the region.

  • @abo7628
    @abo7628 15 днів тому +1

    Haha sky running adverts for their new referees show
    Coming soon...
    Decisions sponsored by Specsavers

  • @richardredmond1463
    @richardredmond1463 15 днів тому

    The reviews in rugby games are basically audible. It's all above board and clear to everybody. And all officials are as obviously impartial as possible. The idea of a Luton supporting official being used for VAR for a Notts Forest game in the present circumstances is just wrong. It's unfair on the official and leaves him open to accusation, as indeed then happened.

  • @richardwatson9653
    @richardwatson9653 15 днів тому +1

    Are PGMOL going to get punished? You can not punish a team, for fronting up and challenging incompetence

  • @thetruth3213
    @thetruth3213 15 днів тому +2

    League has been a disaster

  • @1957bumpy
    @1957bumpy 15 днів тому +1

    Oh the re recorded tape

  • @101RadioheadCovers
    @101RadioheadCovers 14 днів тому

    The penalty at 0-0 was a stonewaller as well. They're trying to make it out like only 1 was a penalty and it wouldn't have made a difference at 2-0 down.
    Typical damage limitation exercise platformed by Sky who have an exclusive deal to brodcast the VAR decisions.
    And they didn't address the fact that Aaron Wan Bissaka was given a penalty against for the exact same hanball situation on the dame day, followed the next week by United not getting a penalty again Burnley for the exact same sutuation.

  • @whoknew2273
    @whoknew2273 14 днів тому

    So fans in the will have a time delay when the referees is explaining the decision so that be about half an hour later 🤣

  • @JayVelaz01
    @JayVelaz01 15 днів тому

    I personally think that the refs need to be consistent with their decisions. The exact same instances almost always get different decisions. It would be nice to know why though. Maybe have a side by side comparison too and then play "spot the difference," just for more clarity🤔

  • @MohamedThoronka-lj8tg
    @MohamedThoronka-lj8tg 15 днів тому +1

    Foolishness

  • @sonicichigo5962
    @sonicichigo5962 15 днів тому

    All 3 penalty disbutes should of been shown as in the one that was shown atwell the one in question TOOK CHARGE

  • @juvevalerio3240
    @juvevalerio3240 15 днів тому

    They already doing the audio explanation to funs in the Mexican league. Just like the NFL in United States

  • @grahammalkinson1439
    @grahammalkinson1439 15 днів тому +1

    If its not corruption then it is incompetence either way ref's should be fined and banned for a few games

  • @simonoliver8576
    @simonoliver8576 15 днів тому

    well as long as they do not give forest any points deductions then I dont really get why sky sports are making a big deal about this

  • @Murdocke89
    @Murdocke89 15 днів тому +2

    Sky are in a bleeding bubble!

  • @richardwatson9653
    @richardwatson9653 15 днів тому +3

    Twatwell did give decusions for Luton, everyone knows it, they should of removed him, but no, corrupt to the core

  • @AdamMalster
    @AdamMalster 15 днів тому

    We don't care about the punishment. Sort the refereeing out. COYR.

  • @sunnyboy2731
    @sunnyboy2731 15 днів тому

    Your observations are nonetheless important

  • @nathanwhitehouse8237
    @nathanwhitehouse8237 15 днів тому +3

    They shouldn't be getting them wrong. Its ridiculous. The officials have not been good enough this season. Nottingham forest is justified in its statement. Lost at least certainly a penalty. If the bias issue is true then they shouldn't be charged with anything

  • @AntoHooper
    @AntoHooper 15 днів тому +1

    Of course they will only admit to 1 out of three they are being accused of match fixing obviously not going to admit they got all three wrong are they lol

  • @tonysobevski9961
    @tonysobevski9961 15 днів тому +1

    This Var baby , that the premier league have introduced might be the biggest mistake of there lives.. first they said, it's been put in place to aid the reff's and get decision's correct.. with this brilliant technology, it's just another form of corruption and helping out the sporting agencies.. As there's more controversy and in correct calls made, more than ever.. Now , if teams loose points get relegated or if a team is fighting for the tittle but get a wrong call on an disallowed goal miss out on winning the league.. can they not sue then, as the pgmol come out with weekly pressers and say yeah we got this wrong.. okay then let's go to caught, bring your var video with u cause that's the evidence we need.. you've admitted u got it wrong, your own evidence proves it.. 2 things can happen here, u get rid of var for ever or team's will get paid massive amount of money in compensation.. loss of revenue if relegated or team's that should of won the league, miss out on bigger sponsorship deals etc.. big can of worms.. Come on my fellow football lovers , lets get the soul back into our great game. The powers to be have sucked the life out of it.. give me a hallelujah if anyone's with me .

  • @liambuchan
    @liambuchan 15 днів тому +1

    Typical sky in the pgmols pocket, absolutely working together as entities, instead of actually addressing that this league is bent, and are dictating the shape of the league by their corrupt decisions, disgusting.

  • @markrobinson1369
    @markrobinson1369 14 днів тому

    Everyone has bad decision. Not everyone screams cheats when really forest are the cheats

  • @auwalmusa7848
    @auwalmusa7848 15 днів тому +2

    The PGMOL are an embarrassment to football as simple as that. The earlier they accept their officials are hust not good enough the better. Howard webb himself has been involved in alot of controversies and so that doesn't indicate they are ready to make things right.

  • @user-nb5ri4fm6e
    @user-nb5ri4fm6e 15 днів тому +1

    Forest is right

  • @TheJWRB
    @TheJWRB 14 днів тому

    Punished for telling the truth 👍

  • @joso7228
    @joso7228 15 днів тому +4

    The usual fluff. Everyone knows it was 3 clear Penalties.
    But again PMGOL muddied the waters with '1 penalty should have been given at 2-0 down' when it didn't matter..
    When is this nonsense going to STOP? We just want a Fair Game.

  • @DavidPringle-db9yg
    @DavidPringle-db9yg 14 днів тому

    I've voted with my feet.
    After twenty years, I've cancelled my Sky sports subscription.
    I've watched enough of this biased rubbish.
    There ought to be a campaign where true football lovers in the UK did the same for a few months. Gary Neville was so refreshing when he became a Sky pundit where he actually said what he thought. Now he just spins the party line.

  • @tonyrobinson7737
    @tonyrobinson7737 14 днів тому

    Why doesnt ROB DORSET KEEP HIS USELESS OPINIONS TO HIMSELF .

  • @robertspence402
    @robertspence402 15 днів тому

    What is a fine in todays football? Were talking about premier league teams here with lots of money not some minnow team in the non leagues who could go down under

  • @Selena-ff5er
    @Selena-ff5er 13 днів тому

    Dorsett and the other Pundits are completely Wrong Nottingham was robbed of Three Penalties and enough is a enough and I’m not a fan of forest the pundits put the words into there mouths then they give their decisions.

  • @tatendamagombe1998
    @tatendamagombe1998 15 днів тому +1

    why punish victims punish city

  • @mrdan7740
    @mrdan7740 15 днів тому +1

    The Forest reaction was to merely point out a Conflict of Interest had not been avoided as it should’ve been.
    There was no insinuation of corruption or cheating. The pundits and shows like this did that - Forest’s statement didn’t.
    Forest have been shafted by unfair PSR rules and repeated incorrect officiating decisions.
    Forest are probably 15 points worse off with all this weighed up.
    It stinks.

  • @steppan26
    @steppan26 13 днів тому

    Sky peddling scripted and curated takes that's clearly come from the EPL. Congratulate PGMOL because they owned up to making an error that every man and his dog could see what a clear penalty, but condemn Forest for speaking out against these decisions. Sky is so out of touch with the fans of football

  • @hansegiltaanevig7500
    @hansegiltaanevig7500 15 днів тому +1

    The jury of the public gives Forest their support.

  • @thetruth3213
    @thetruth3213 15 днів тому +3

    Forest were robbed at least twice

  • @nathantheanimal8724
    @nathantheanimal8724 15 днів тому +1

    Omg why won’t they listen to the fans and football teams everyone higher up is corrupt I’ve had enough if you agree like this comment

  • @NeilDsza
    @NeilDsza 15 днів тому +1

    Puppet

  • @Bluey1878
    @Bluey1878 15 днів тому +1

    They can moan all they want about decisions going against them but strange how they are not bothered Murillo and Gibbs White where not sent off and that's because those two decisions went in their favour

  • @shaynetunnicliff2638
    @shaynetunnicliff2638 15 днів тому

    Karma forest the rams can't wait to thrash u next season 😂

  • @Nforest1980-it8dp
    @Nforest1980-it8dp 15 днів тому +1

    Ashley Young going through the back of Rayners legs to win the ball, he doesn't and fouls Rayner so it's a penalty. The hand ball 50/50 has we've seen them given(Coventry v man utd) and the 3rd we all know its a penalty. Its like the pgmol are trying to brainwash us!! If a player goes through the back of a player to win the ball it's a foul, so please pgmol explain why ur only saying the 3rd one was a penalty and not the 1st challenge on rayner??

    • @saylortusk8489
      @saylortusk8489 15 днів тому

      "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - George Orwell, "1984"

  • @VukaniMde
    @VukaniMde 15 днів тому

    Does the club and its fanbase have the patience for that kind of rebuild though. They haven't shown it in the past.
    If you think almost your entire starting XI is good enough (let alone a whole 24-man sqaud), you need 3-4 transfer windows to change that. Which means about two seasons of 'transition' where you have to accept some level of failure and underachievment. Nothing about Man United (and their collective idea of themselves) suggests that they are ready for that. They are a club with what is now a decade-long history of shortcut decision-making

  • @markrobinson1369
    @markrobinson1369 15 днів тому +2

    Forest have ruined the league with their FFP cheating, then the appeal. Now this, what a horrible little club

  • @martzp5535
    @martzp5535 14 днів тому

    A panel of luton fans will decide their punishment a 20 points deduction is expected