Oregon could soon be a hub for hydrogen power. Not everyone thinks it's worth the risk

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • Oregon and Washington are slated to be the core of a Pacific Northwest hydrogen power hub backed by federal funds, but the fuel source has its share of detractors. A billion dollars of federal funding is going into these hydrogen plants at sites across Oregon and Washington, and in the end they're expected to create 10,000 new jobs.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 18

  • @h2opower
    @h2opower 10 днів тому +1

    Why has no one on this project seems to know anything about the company "Hystata" who's efficacy is around 98% in breaking the bonds of the water molecules?

  • @darrellhanks6459
    @darrellhanks6459 16 днів тому +6

    Use that money for modern nuclear plants

    • @benwintermute2804
      @benwintermute2804 16 днів тому

      Tell me you didn't watch the whole video without telling me you didn't watch the whole video

    • @darrellhanks6459
      @darrellhanks6459 16 днів тому

      What the hell are you talking about? Maybe you did not watch the whole video

    • @benwintermute2804
      @benwintermute2804 15 днів тому

      @@darrellhanks6459 it's not for energy, it's for fuel. Two totally different needs and financial allocations

    • @darrellhanks6459
      @darrellhanks6459 15 днів тому +1

      @@benwintermute2804 I totally understood that. Hydrogen fuel, as pointed out in the video, is a terribly inefficient way to store energy whether to feed back into the grid or other purposes. The only reasonable purpose for (green) hydrogen fuel might be for the shipping and airline industry. That technology is a long way from being perfected and it is not clear hydrogen is the way to go right now. Building hydrogen plants right now is getting the cart before the horse. Nuclear is a far better investment of those billions being spent on the hydrogen plants.

    • @zaurenstoates7306
      @zaurenstoates7306 15 днів тому

      @@darrellhanks6459 agreed, advanced high temp nuclear can make hydrogen at roughly the same efficiency as electricity generation

  • @markcompton2560
    @markcompton2560 10 днів тому +1

    Most people either don't know or have forgotten that
    Stanly Myers came up with this some time ago. I have plans here that will let you convert water to hydrogen and oxygen gas. Which when separated the gasses are highly flammable. It's quite easy to set this up. As you may know Stan met an untimely death for not selling his invention to oil companies

  • @tommaier8121
    @tommaier8121 15 днів тому +1

    The good thing about hydrogen is that every company can produce it for itself, just like Amazon does with the help of Plugpower for its goods transport. Once the investment has paid for itself, you save a lot of money. Amazon even builds its own wind turbines and produces its own electricity for hydrogen production. The bad news is that the oil companies don't earn a cent and hate it and therefore demonize hydrogen.

  • @josephsantoslyons
    @josephsantoslyons 16 днів тому +3

    good reporting

  • @zaurenstoates7306
    @zaurenstoates7306 16 днів тому +4

    Hydrogen for energy storage doesn't make much sense. There's significant loss in power and all methods of storage has some amount of boil off (hydrogen lost to the atmosphere)
    Having said that hydrogen is needed to decarbonize other industries, especially agriculture which needs a source of hydrogen to make artificial fertilizer. Or perhaps if making synthetic hydrocarbon fuels.

    • @krslavin
      @krslavin 16 днів тому +3

      Correct - hydrogen should be green hydrogen, and made where it is needed. Storing it and transporting it is expensive and dangerous. Electricity can be used much more efficiently if used directly. I think the round trip on batteries is around 90% efficient.

    • @athleta4life520
      @athleta4life520 10 днів тому

      Hydrogen as a blend with Natural gas can utilize already existing (and permitted) infrastructure.
      Technology will advance to increase efficiency at scale.
      To get there, must start somewhere.
      Current wind infrastructure began with first connected turbines 40 years ago.
      Great things start somewhere.

  • @kmarks97236
    @kmarks97236 15 днів тому

    Keep doing these stories please

  • @odar9729
    @odar9729 16 днів тому +1

    Make more water wheels

  • @Easternoregon1
    @Easternoregon1 15 днів тому

    I live in Baker City and I don't think anyone here even knows about this. I have never seen any local news about a hydrogen plant. Is there any more info about the Baker City one and where it would be located?