@@IronCrownWorkshop Armour in the present and future: prevent death. (as in ballistic vests and helmets) Medieval armour in the future: prevent injury and teach.
Glad I found your channel from the poleaxe video. I'm starting to collect my own late 15th c armor, and it's really nice having video resources to consult in addition to forums and visuals (especially as I'm not a historian, I'm a hobbyist.)
Honestly Perry, this is so amazing to hear!! We really want our channel to be a hub for fellow enthusiasts, reenactors, and armorers to learn and inspire each other in all things medieval armor. Thanks for sharing about your own passion too in collecting your own late 15th century armor and we'd love to see your progress as you go on this journey.
I've mostly finished my soft kit and am starting on my armor, I will say that high Medieval is still not gonna be cheap. Especially if you want more attention to detail (same as later periods.) If you plan on any formal fighting in armor ie harness fencing or buhurt, you also can't really wear stuff before the 14th century or it will be too susceptible to blunt force.
Really what you described at 4:15 to 4:33 is really just living history, and it's an authentic form of research, not at all something to consider "weird" or just an ordinary hobby.
I Keep enjoying this channel. Can't wait to see more videos soon guys. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends .Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep making. God bless.
Is it required for an armourer to have long hair, but the beard may only be worn by a master armourer? Can you talk about the quirky policies in your guild?
Have you looked into modern fabrication methods? There's no reason for a helmet to cost $2000 if you had a factory making them at scale. What would it take to get that Indian factory to produce something that's actually high-quality. Or if you think that the market is too small to make it viable, how about moving your operation to India. They make for just as good apprentices but cost a fraction.
The market is definitely too small as you have mentioned. As a reenactor in Australia i am saddened by this fact, if only more people got into medieval combat then we would have better quality weapons and armour.
You emphasize how important it is for you to recreate authentic armour. Are you in ways limiting yourself to making armour that is too flawless? No hammer marks, everything evenly polished without any blemish. Is that the modern consumer expecting what he's familiar with from buying something in a store? Was medieval armour aesthetically perfect? And functionally, what's the proportion of armour that was worn and didn't fit well or didn't move as well? What do we know of armour quality grades? What about munitions armour when some king of England just filled up the tower of London?
The finish of an armour varied historically as it does today among artisans. It is true that there were armors of lower degree of finish historically but for the style and level of armour we produce a high degree of finish is required. At the level of finished, complete harnesses and the knightly class a full polish well within the historical expectations of what an armour should be. However, you are correct to some degree that the modern armourer market is limited in a way by the modern expectations of 21st century people for whom machine polished metal is an ordinary experience. This leads them to prioritise buying only highly finished work but when that is formed accurately the price is often more than they expect. As to the other questions on quality and grades and munitions armors we'll address that in a future video
@@IronCrownWorkshop I know that the English, in the 15th century, tended to buy entire munitions grade harnesses to equip their men-at-arms, and many times those buys were made out of Milanese or Italian armories. As I understand it, almost none of the munitions grade harness survived, so perhaps we are somewhat limited for historical examples of armors because the high end equipment, complete with embellishment and high polish, tended to be owned by wealthy nobility and monarchs and were more likely to be preserved as family heirlooms. For the wealthy fighting classes, fashion and image appear to have been almost as important as the armor's ability to turn a sword or lance.
Could’ve been a great video but it’s just too dry. Can I suggest you re edit it with less face to face talking and more info on what the armour is and how/why it was used
Armour then : prevent death.
Armour now : prevent injury and teach.
Armour Hollywood : tell story.
Love this! ...armour in the future?
Only one way to find out...
@@IronCrownWorkshop Armour in the present and future: prevent death. (as in ballistic vests and helmets)
Medieval armour in the future: prevent injury and teach.
@@IronCrownWorkshop thinking back to demolition man i hope education
"Tell the wrong story"
Glad I found your channel from the poleaxe video. I'm starting to collect my own late 15th c armor, and it's really nice having video resources to consult in addition to forums and visuals (especially as I'm not a historian, I'm a hobbyist.)
Honestly Perry, this is so amazing to hear!! We really want our channel to be a hub for fellow enthusiasts, reenactors, and armorers to learn and inspire each other in all things medieval armor. Thanks for sharing about your own passion too in collecting your own late 15th century armor and we'd love to see your progress as you go on this journey.
For the cost barrier, I personally avoid plate armour entirely, preferring chainmail and more High Medieval equipment.
Hauberk & chausses or something less comprehensive? Preferred wire thickness? Half nailed or all-riveted?
I've mostly finished my soft kit and am starting on my armor, I will say that high Medieval is still not gonna be cheap. Especially if you want more attention to detail (same as later periods.) If you plan on any formal fighting in armor ie harness fencing or buhurt, you also can't really wear stuff before the 14th century or it will be too susceptible to blunt force.
Really what you described at 4:15 to 4:33 is really just living history, and it's an authentic form of research, not at all something to consider "weird" or just an ordinary hobby.
Agreed! There's so much to learn from actually experiencing history for real
Another great hit from this channel. Keep up the good work!
I Keep enjoying this channel. Can't wait to see more videos soon guys. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends .Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep making. God bless.
I always went by the rule of "If it's Kult of Athena, just walk away..."
While I agree that most internet on the shelf armor is terrible, once in a while, you find some pretty good ones that are acutely pretty well made.
Would it be okay if i share this on my channel? I think many people would find this super interesting!
Absolutely! We love having discussions like this and thank you for passing this on
Great video so good to see some many former faces. keep up the good work
This is a really good video guys.
I was wondering when you would be back. how is the new build going?
The build is going well, we'll have videos to share very soon
As a buhurt fighter the thing about people getting hurt more by their armor than the weapons is so true armor bites hurt
Amour bites? Is that when your skin gets caught in some gap or articulation orr ?
Good video...
I hope you guys are writing all this knowledge down.
Is polish armor often mistake or black armor?
Not quite sure what you mean? Can you clarify?
Is it required for an armourer to have long hair, but the beard may only be worn by a master armourer? Can you talk about the quirky policies in your guild?
give him a word, and he will give yeah
Have you looked into modern fabrication methods? There's no reason for a helmet to cost $2000 if you had a factory making them at scale. What would it take to get that Indian factory to produce something that's actually high-quality. Or if you think that the market is too small to make it viable, how about moving your operation to India. They make for just as good apprentices but cost a fraction.
The market is definitely too small as you have mentioned. As a reenactor in Australia i am saddened by this fact, if only more people got into medieval combat then we would have better quality weapons and armour.
You emphasize how important it is for you to recreate authentic armour. Are you in ways limiting yourself to making armour that is too flawless? No hammer marks, everything evenly polished without any blemish. Is that the modern consumer expecting what he's familiar with from buying something in a store? Was medieval armour aesthetically perfect? And functionally, what's the proportion of armour that was worn and didn't fit well or didn't move as well? What do we know of armour quality grades? What about munitions armour when some king of England just filled up the tower of London?
The finish of an armour varied historically as it does today among artisans. It is true that there were armors of lower degree of finish historically but for the style and level of armour we produce a high degree of finish is required. At the level of finished, complete harnesses and the knightly class a full polish well within the historical expectations of what an armour should be. However, you are correct to some degree that the modern armourer market is limited in a way by the modern expectations of 21st century people for whom machine polished metal is an ordinary experience. This leads them to prioritise buying only highly finished work but when that is formed accurately the price is often more than they expect. As to the other questions on quality and grades and munitions armors we'll address that in a future video
@@IronCrownWorkshop I know that the English, in the 15th century, tended to buy entire munitions grade harnesses to equip their men-at-arms, and many times those buys were made out of Milanese or Italian armories. As I understand it, almost none of the munitions grade harness survived, so perhaps we are somewhat limited for historical examples of armors because the high end equipment, complete with embellishment and high polish, tended to be owned by wealthy nobility and monarchs and were more likely to be preserved as family heirlooms.
For the wealthy fighting classes, fashion and image appear to have been almost as important as the armor's ability to turn a sword or lance.
I keep trying to place the accents. Australian?
Yep. Check some of their other video descriptions.
Too right mate! ;) Guilty as charged
larping is funny
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Mild traumatic brain injuries
Could’ve been a great video but it’s just too dry. Can I suggest you re edit it with less face to face talking and more info on what the armour is and how/why it was used