How Effective is Suboxone for Narcotic Addiction? Dr. Raymond Ward Weighs In | ABC4 News
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2016
- Dr. Ward at Cope Family Medicine | Ogden Clinic compares Methadone and Suboxone--two treatment options for drug addiction. Learn more about Raymond Ward at:
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Suboxone saved my life!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t get high but I don’t feel withdrawals. Once you get over the fact your not high, or you really don’t want to be high anymore, it’s perfect for the person who truly wants to be sober. It’s not always easy, but it sure as hell beats cold turkey which I tried for 5 months. Started suboxone .25 mg after 5 months cold turkey, it was like all my PAWS vanished and I felt like I beat the withdrawals that can linger for up to 2 years for some
Nice keep up the good work
Hi - just a query. You say you started sub after 5 months cold turkey but shouldn’t you start sub only a few days after your last dose of drugs?
Best to not make any plans of relationship ,its not fair to them because of our bad choice in life .
@@louisecoffey9843 he was trying to get sober cold turkey but was suffering from withdrawal symptoms still until he started the subs. But yeah normally if you’re going to get on subs you go straight from heroin or whatever ur taking to subs. You basically replace your drug of choice with Suboxone
It absolutely saved my life too... I'm functioning now, I definitely couldn't do that before.
I was an opiate heroin user for 15yrs I decided to go into detox then rehab got onto the methadone program and was getting really high on them the got myself in the Suboxone program and that saved my life have been clean and sober for 8yrs now
I highly admire this guy's honesty concerning these treatments. Very well said!
Yep I do too he didn't sugar coat anything..
Agreed. He was 100% accurate and 100% truthful. And that’s coming from, what I assume, a non addict.
This has helped me sustain a job and get through life better then using
Same.. but I hate to think if they were to give me enough dope weekly to be fine I could hold a job too. It's just when you run out. Then your fucked that day. So I feel like I'm still a user even tho it's helped in a way.
Is someone still considered clean if taking Suboxone ?
@@elled3593 at first I thought no.. but after seeing how it doesnt get you high. It only keeps you from needing drugs off the street. It's a life saver and it's a tool that can be used to keep a steady path in life. So I'd say yes and no
@@GAMESTERVISION damn. My bf is on it and now wants off it. Don't know wtf to sooooo
@@elled3593 tell him I said there is a light at the end of the tunnel.. that the trap of daily pain can be gone in a single day
And state aid insurance pays for it all. Tell him to find a suboxone clinic in the area and make an appointment. His entire life can change. Tell him if it doesn't work out he can always go back and get high and try again later if need be. Tell him just one day at a time. Tell him u will love him and not leave. I'm fact this will make sure you stay. Hes losing everything isn't he.. all his stuff.. family and friends... all his cool toys gone. Dont waitntill all he has left to lose is his life.. I promise u and him.. its soooo worth it. He will feel like a million bucks..
I was on an enormous amount of opiates for 8 years and the dr that gave me them for that long give me suboxone for 1 month and it was hard I couldn't sleep I had to learn how to communicate with people again and I didn't get normal or happy again for 7 months....kept my job fought through some insane anxiety amd depression but after 7 months I was the happiest I've ever been in my life
Sympathise my friend I went through that precipricated withdrawal off the Done and onto Suboxone nightmare, most Dr's wouldn't know or care,happy on Subbies now,I'm 76 Good Luck
The only honest doctor. I was on sboxune for 9 years . I quite cold Turkey 4 months ago . Could not sleep for 25 days . Still feel whithdrawel symptoms. But its doable. Dont scare of it. Put your mind to it . Just rest at home and kick it minute by minute. Good luck
Dont do this if you dont have to.
Good for you man. I wish you the best in life.
Congrats man. I was on Sub for 14 years. I quit cold turkey too... I tried so hard to taper... and couldn’t. It’s been over a month now and I already relapsed first on kratom then on some oxy’s. Talked to Dr. and she put me back on low dose of sub and says I need to taper. Sub def saved my life... and its a very beneficially drug. I took 4mg today... and hope it can hold me over for a couple days. I honestly do not want to go back to using this suboxone daily... but the depression after a month of being sober was leading me down a very bad path.
saulDseer my brother sobs are the most evil drugs in the world. Only way to go cold turcky. I didn’t go to sleep for over 22 days and Aldo was deposed for 6 months. But you can go it. My brother sobs they toke my sex drive , my life, my smell, my spirit , made me into zombie. Once I quit sob. I remember I could not leave my eyes open for 3 weeks I started to smell and see the world around me which sobs block that. My brother if anything I can do to help you please send me message I will be there
I jumped off in 2017 after ten years it helped me early on but became a bigger ball and chain than drugs
Kratom helped get through the paws
Its a life saver, I'm on it.. and it works
What where you using?
This s has helped me sustain a better life
Nice
i got my life back! being a pain patient and hurting was hard but im finding success in this medication
My thought is
Fix one problem
Create another problem.
Basically..but it’s the lesser of two evils. I think the point is, people can function better on suboxone than opiates
Bupe has low harm to self and harm to others 2nd place behind mushrooms or something similar it would be better than alcohol binging like 12 drinks a day or more or 8 drinks maybe just 6?
Difficult to quit. But easier to get and takes pain away for.me only had kratom problem decade plus.
Not really tho because it is monitored and has a long half life and youre not going to overdose on it as long as ur taking it properly thru a doctor or clinic its only a partial agonist and you only need it once a day so you can function and because it has a ceiling effect you cant get high from it it just makes it so you dont have withdrawals its saved many lives including mine you cant compare shooting heroin or fentanyl to take suboxone as prescribed yes you are still dependant on a substance but a safe monitored substance that you arent going to nod out from and need to take every 2 hours
@@MrMic111000 SUbs ARE an opiate! wth?
@@bbcreeks779 🤡
Am on soboxone it is hard to come of them
I have been addicted to percs for about 4 months now and the one time I did get off of them it was the worst sickness of my life and about half way thru the dry heaving and diarrhea I caved and got back on them and am too scared to try to get off them again. I need help and I just want to be freed from this evil trap. I have a full strip of suboxone to help with the withdrawals when they come, but I’m afraid it’s not going to be enough. Also afraid I’ll get addicted to the Suboxone. I am scared for my life and need any type of advice from someone who can relate
Ophelia google it u call don't have to go in take about a week Zoom call they give u meds to help wit restless leg syndrome medicine so u don't throw up and a bunch of strips and anxiety meds I'm on day 3 ur not alone but first day was the tuffest take the other meds starts with a c ahead of time u have to be off ur shit for 24hrs or ur withdrawal will be worst
It's been 7 months since you've posted this comment. Hope you're doing okay. I've been addicted to percs for a year now and I just got one strip of Suboxone. Gonna try it out also.
I have a spine c4 injury and a trapped peripheral nerve right shoulder. Central and severe peripheral nerve damage. Crps severe I had a heart ablation and pace maker put in. Crps attacking every nerve in my body. Will soboxone save me from the disease? Anyone.
No harm in trying it speak to your doctor
Its not gonna help
It worked for me.
Very effective
I agree with this guy 100% facts
I told you you're awesome dude you know exactly what you talking about sorry about my last comment I was a little angry but most people don't understand thank you
Did anyone else get the feeling the News Anchor sounded like he was a quite familiar with suboxone
Prob just researched it before the program 😁
Yes, addiction doesn't discriminate.
Suboxone and probation saved my life I would be Dead I have miny friends that are gone
Subxon works for my pain and issues
Suboxone is great. It's easy to take and not take more then needed.
Yeah it great but the sex drive dies 😑
@@kimfuruwal9285 I can bone just fine on it lol
@@kimfuruwal9285 Yes lack of sex drive is probably one of the only downfalls I have experienced from it.
@@bms77 Yeah you can bone on it, but there's less impetus to even do it in the first place.
It has worked for me . Their is a huge program that has to be followed .
I've been prescribed suboxome multiple years ago and got off .I've moved to VA and there are no outpatient clinics ,the only way to obtain it is to go inpatient first which I can't do.I work 6 days a week and have a job I would never get again if I left .I've had to buy it on the street now for 5 years makes no sense theres no help for people like me in va.It has completely changed my life ,I got a career making 100k a year 401k things I could have never imagined .It sucks to be on something but it saved my life.Been hooked on Roxys oxys,and heroin since the age of 13 now 31. It has been a dramatic journey but its the only thing that keeps me from using, I've tried in the past and can't stop, failing as soon as I stop always relapse.
@@ericdoran4313 'there are no outpatient clinics ,the only way to obtain it is to go inpatient first'
Are you sure about that? Bizarre.
How in the world do I even begin to talk about this crap.I guess Im going to give it my best shot and hopefully someone can help my tookus.
Back in 2009 the US was in a pretty bad place for all of us construction workers. The recession in 2008 made it so hard to find work. No money from banks means NO new construction, like houses and businesses. At that time I was 32yrs old and in the best shape of my life. I cant believe I said that, I played and lettered in 4 sports in high school. Lol. Anyway, I was in shape for sure and because of that and the speed in which I could wire homes and hotels. Well I had to do a lot of traveling due to just how big of an issue it was to have something close to home. Well my boss said that if we wanted to get paid on Friday, we had to have the job done by Thursday evening. What sucked was it was Wednesday when he told me. I bursted my butt to put this job in and I made 1 of the worst mistakes of my life that Thursday. Pulling in the main feeder wire that was 250ft long of a pull. 400amp service and that wire was very and I mean very hard to pull. I ended up breaking my back in 3 places. I was standing on the ladder rack of the truck and the pipe broke and the rope broke. I felt like I took off flying when I fell off the truck. So ever since that day right there, I have been on painkillers. The doctor I was seeing for 10yrs retired. So he referred me to another doc, sounds simple but unfortunately its not. Everyone is so scared to write a pain medication script. They hate people that have chronic pain and try to avoid people like the plague. So now I am in a dark place in my life and I think about offing myself every single day and almost every second. It really makes me upset that O know theres away to have relief and could take the damn edge off but thats a big NO GO. So if anyone has any suggestions on what i can do, I would gratefully appreciate it. Thanknyou
Bro I had a scaffold accident ripped arm broke shoulder and knees on way to hospital got hit by truck lol had surgeries therapy and it doesn't get better I've lost all my credit bank on___-- In pain every day it seems like after making 100k a year I'm bout to loose it all I tried working but my back and knees give out I'm to the point I am selling everything just to have another mont the system is not fair I worked 24 years day ,night dint matter and now I Wana die but keep going because of kids.
Try kratom. Its just like opioids but legal.
I suggest marijuana and CBD treatment bro
nice puff piece for your clinic.
wow least he's honest at the end.
None of the Drs that give advice have use drugs. I have 50 yrs experience
Not true
Don’t you love these people? They know nothing . . but give a lot of free advice.
Wrong Robert, one of my Drs got addicted to opiates in medical school, hence why he specialized in addiction. Also: drug use is quite rampant in the medical community.
What about people with chronic pain.
Been popping purk30 for 2yrs ion do nothing it feels good the 1 4 are 5 days might be hard but keep fighting u will be alright when my back hurt I take a Tylenol
I’ve been taken blues for 2 years! I’m going to take my first sub tomorrow! I’m about to go through it
U will be fine. Subs will help tremendously. 🙏
@@kerryalabama6716 8 days clean
@@Moverka thats awesome, I am rooting for you. . 2 weeks on subs from a doctor. Best thing I ever did.
@@kerryalabama6716 I am walking with Jesus now. He has so much love. You are doing soo good. That’s amazing.
@@Moverka God is very important in our lives. Prayers for you.
which one is better methadone or suboxone
Soboxone has completely ruined my mind ,body and soul ....period in my opinion it's still just another addiction but even harder to get off
hypnocil10 suboxone has definitely ruined my mind body and soul! That is true statement I was prescribed 12mg for a little over a year I am on day 8 of jumping off cold turkey and my dr was not supportive it has been by far the worst withdrawl I have went through but I feel like I am seeing a light at the end of the tunnel if you really want to stop just stop don’t use suboxone long term it’s definitely not worth it!
EVERYONE is different. I personal preferred suboxone.
@@isiah6029 you can't jump off like that. Of COURSE you'll feel horrible.
Suboxone.
Tapering down is very doable and jumping off is doable to without too many bad symptoms but you have to taper down to 1/4 of 1 mg, and you have to stay there for at least 8 weeks and then make the jump
To Those Who Are listening to This video for information.
-He Said Suboxone is a pill 💊.
CORRECTION: Suboxone Comes in Pill , Powder & Film Form (dissolvable)
-Suboxone Is For People Struggling with Addiction, People Who Take Up All Their Pills Before Time, People Who Become Dependent, & ALSO WOMEN WHO GIVE BIRTH. (Ask For it in The hospital if in labor or for chronic Pain)
-He Also Stated Taking Suboxone will cause a dependency That will be hard for majority to break.
-OPINIONS : I’ve had Three Individuals I know take the treatment & Easily Didnt depend on it. They took just enough of what was necessary To Kill The cravings or withdrawal .
Suboxone for withdraw symptoms only! Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except Porn addiction! Libido suppress appetite and reduce cravings for hours
Terrible info.
Suboxone is amazing. Methadone is crap. Thankful for it.
Does anyone suffer from anxiety while taking suboxone? I do but it was actually the naloxone in the drug that is causing the problem, so my docs took it out of my suboxone, and what a difference, it makes all the difference in the world. But the last i got my script for the month i started getting the bad anxiety again and sure as shit they gave me the one with the naloxone in it and it made me sucker than shit.
How come people can't prescribe Subutex? That doesn't have the blocker in it correct? I only tried it i think once or twice? But I don't remember it. How come they prescribe it but then it's super hard to be on? I always got confused with that.
Suboxone never worked for me either it was the blocker in it with myself too I currently am on methadone I wanted to try subutex but like I mentioned I heard it was extremely hard to get on at least where I live... I don't want to be on methadone forever though
'Does anyone suffer from anxiety while taking suboxone?'
No, actually Subs nuke anxiety better than any medication I've ever come across, and I know of many others who find this also to be true.
hey my last name is Ogden maybe I can get some free treatment
Methadose works wonders for my lupus
I'm starting my suboxone in 2😓 days time .....i hope it works
legalize dope
of course they must at list legalize suboxone cause this medicine must be free for those who cant go to a programm but they willing to stop using...
What did that doctor say? Eaten alive?
Only 10 or 15% get off. Wow. Thats pretty bad. I wondering if he's talking about opiates in general or Medication Assisted Treatment. Either is bad but if it's the latter that is a very surprising statistic.
He means suboxone. The reason older people tell kids not to take drugs is because once your brain gets a taste for something and you have any kinds mental instability or weaknesses then it’s almost impossible to live clean. Suboxone is difficult to get off of but much cheaper and healthier than using street dope for sure. It’s a great trade off
He was talking about the subs
Suboxone does lower your tolerance to opiates
LOL, you are insane!
Are you not just substituting one narcotic for another?
Yes but getting high and things addicts do to get high are the problem. Addicts don’t get high on suboxone.
@@hezdavis6971 my 26 year old son became dependent on opiates from a dental visit (wisdom teeth surgery). He eventually found and sought a Dr. for suboxone treatment. After over a year on suboxone he doesn’t see progress and is now experiencing depression and suicidal thoughts. There has to be better treatments for opiate addiction.
So? Better than being homeless/dead. It's tolerated quite well by the body.
@@CartoonForFood Are you 100% sure it's the suboxone that's causing the depression? What makes you think it is? Subxone is actually a powerful anti-depressant (to the point where similar drugs are being researched for this purpose but without the psycho-activity). Speaking from experience, it's likely your son has not resolved the reasons why he fell into addiction in the first place.
@@hezdavis6971 Lies, lol
I take subs and guess what.....I don't care about anyone's opinion.... so go tell someone who cares hahahah
Been taking quarter peice of the strip everyday.. Use to shoot atleast half g of heroin. Doing alot better..
I was on Percocet after I had my last child ... never took a pull in my life till then ... when I was done with my script I was so sick didn't know what withdrawals were until I went to the hospital and they said ur withdrawaling they gave me subs for the first time and now I don't want to be on anything I don't want to depend on anything I just want to get back to normal YES they help but it's just another thing to be addicted to
I haven't said anything to my doctor yet but how the he'll will I get off the subs like will I feel any withdrawals from them because I'm nervous but at the same time I don't want it any more ... people r telling me the withdrawals r like dope withdrawals and I never did that shit so idk what to do here but I can't go past 3 days with out my subs 😔
Suboxone reduced withdraw symptoms only! Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except Porn addiction! Libido suppress appetite and cravings
How long were you taking percs?
@@psalms2928 I took them for 3 weeks bro .. at least 4 times a week
Even worse withdrawals by far!
I’ve been on opiates and fentenyl for 17 years. My spinal cord is damaged-my whole body. The medications lower my pain. My nephew was on suboxone 8mg and got dizzy rammed his Toyota into a guy on a motorcycle. Sad to say the man died instantly. My nephew has head damage and broken bones. I say suboxone is worse than opiates. I suppose everyone has a different tolerance level. Joseph
Sorry to hear that.
Not even. You will not die from suboxone. You WILL die from opiates. If anyone is feeling"high" com suboxone they are abusing it or are not TRULY addicted to opiates
I say you have no idea what your talking about!
@@sunshine2502 if you don't stick needles in your arms opiates won't kill you. people don't od by smoking heroin.
What he actually prescribed Suboxone? Because if you would have been high on opiates he would have been nodding off if he was taking Suboxone I don't think you would have affected that way. Unfortunately people are trying to blame Suboxone when they get into car accidents and they get in trouble for things like that. It's getting a bad rap and a lot of us need that medication. Cops don't know what to do when they pull somebody over under the influence of Suboxone because they think it's a opiate
The biggest lobbyists AGAINST suboxone are the private prison industry, Liquor and the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture OxyContin. Yes, those on suboxone rarely drink. Private prisons want your home broken into and I don’t need to explain OxyContin do I? Any state legislature that chooses death, jail, crime and chaos over Suboxone is in the state house for himself Not you. Also the DEA is targeting suboxone doctors. They need the drug cases to get more budget. It’s all about the dollar.A human life means nothing to them. Not even their own families matter. Any politician running on “ Family Values”, is a crook. Easy to spot them
Hey thank you I want to thank you personally for sticking up for us and yes you're right everything you said is 100% sure right I know it I live it everyday of life and I know it and I live it and I'm going to die with it and it's real you damn right it is and it works you damn right it works I thank you I thank you so much
Its sad heroin is far cheaper then suboxone or methadone.
That's not true. If someone is using even half a gram a day that's average 100$ a day. Suboxone is about 300$ a month.
there’s free programs too
state funded
Suboxone a miracle from God 🙏
So they make money by getting the patient high on a legal drug rather than an illicit drug, and then most people just stay on that drug…they don’t get off of it. Lord have mercy.
Well, it is pretty hard to get someone off of an addiction once it has affected their system so much. Suboxone helps their system with that dependence it has developed for the drug, while also helping the patient be clean off it. Some people never stop using it because of the impact the previous drug has caused, but most patients get to have their independence back
So what? You would prefer that person to shoot up baby formula laced smack and live on the streets contributing to the decay of society via crime & degeneracy until they keel over and die? God people like you are annoying.
@@callmeKitty Not true, only like 10 percent of people come off suns successfully.
So people can stop breaking the law to support their drug habit, and most importantly so they dont OD 1 day, hopefully get a job, mend their broken relationships. Addiction is obviously hard & this stabilizes them. You five a diabetic medicine daily, pretty comparable to Addiction IMO
im on suboxone now and im as high as a kite
Then you arent taking it properly or on way too high of a dose or its your first day and your dosing needs to be regulated to your body cuz once you have been on it for 2 days theres no high feeling at all and if your just using it off the street not properly then thats just dumb especially if you take it then try to do another opiate cuz you will either just not get anything from the other opiate because suboxone blocks any other opiate from attaching to receptors or it will kick that opiate out from the receptors then you get to enjoy precipretated withdrawals which are one of the worst things anyone can go through so be careful
Thank you for your honesty. I laugh when these fools say "it doesn't get them high"! LOL,
Only in Utah will you hear the truth about opiate addiction and what helps you get off of you better listen to what he has to say cuz only so many in Utah will know that trust me I know I'm not from that state I've been there a thousand times it's amazing
You know what you damn right it is how dare anybody not know that but all these pieces of s*** shutting everything down you kind of makes me sick amen dude Amen to you it's true dude
Just one more thing the government does to prevent people from getting better. It should be free to all that need it. Just think of all the lives that could be saved.
Subs are good for 21 days any longer and your just trading one drug for another !!!
Even before21 days your trading one drug for another. But SO WHAT. Your not abusing it. Your under a doctor's care. Your not getting high. You can gain your life back. If ya ask me if rather be on a medication that saves my life than using dope and overdosing
Wtf are you talking about? I've been taking them for 5 years and never felt more healthy ever. That's your opinion.
@@mrbuck5059 ur a sub addict then dumbass try quitting cold Turkey u cant do it suboxone is a stupid ideal to get people off drugs and ur stupid for trying it
call it “trading one drug for another” call it “still using” “not sober” call it whatever you want but everybody has their own problems wether it be physical health or mental health. people with physical health issues are prescribed medications that they may have to take their whole life. people with bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc. may have to take their meds for the rest of their lives. it’s the same thing for addicts, the problem is that there is so much stigma around it that people don’t believe it’s actually a real life issue/disease that needs to be treated.
@@user-zd6pj2cc9u suboxone saved my life
Suboxone works with a rigorous 12 step program and sticking to the process of recovery and time!
Suboxone saved my life
It's eating me alive mostly mom & dad sisters and brothers & 7 year old son when my long-term girlfriend kicked me out for stealing 😒 😑 all my fault
it’s okay bro it will get better just try and get help
This doc is a fool!
This doctor failed in trying to (not) make this interview seem as just another opportunity to market legal drugs for profit. Fail big time...jeeez what an amateur
Shut up.
@@catharperfect7036 LOL!!
@@catharperfect7036 the truth hurts right 🤣🤣😆
@@TheProHunting You ok?
@@catharperfect7036 im fine, thanks and you?
so suboxone is crap
No! Suboxone is a wonder drug for getting off Heroin or other Opiates. Methadone has it's place but in reality, it's just as dangerous as Heroin because you are still getting high. When you are at the point of being ready to get off Heroin or Methadone, I mean really ready to stop getting high. That is when you should try Suboxone....because you can not get high from Suboxone, no matter how much you take! Suboxone has the highest Affinity to the Opiates Receptors in our brains. That means it binds so well to the Opiate Receptors, that it blocks other opiates from being able to get in and getting you high. I have been on it for over 8 years now and have been able to put my life back together! I should warn you though, there is a withdraw from Suboxone, so a person must be prepared for that. It isn't easy, but it is easier than Heroin or Methadone withdraw. I hope this helps anyone wondering if Suboxone is right for them?
You have no idea what your talking about
@@justsayin108 yes i believe that the damage in the receptors and the detox is a very slow process.i think you need years to fell normal again,it isnt easy.all the psychological problems you have after you stop it are in fact this damage that needs many years to overcome,if it can be really overcomed.so im hooked to it for 15 years now.im good,not using anything else,nore zanax,nore cannabis ,nothing only suboxone,but at the end im sick of it.but i cant say it didnt changed my life to the better,seeing it infront of the using heroin or other drugs of course.i once stop it and i couldnt fell normal for months and i then broked and got back to suboxone and never stop it from then.im in terror to stop it,like an obsessed fear about withdrawls and at times im suicidle cause i cant get away from it...
Suboxone is fuking trash yall are retarded for supporting it iv witness with my own 2 eyes how bad this drug is instead of helping people it's just making them addicted to it I dnt give a shit what anyone of u say it fuking trash drug and it has ruin the lifes of quite a few of my family and friends!!
No, Silvana, your opinion is.
Out with89999
U have to want to get clean when taking Suboxone,it truly is a good medicine I've made it 5 and half months and going I recommend who ever is trying to get help Suboxone is a step on the road of recovery god bless you all
Soboxon is great but unfortunately it wasn’t made to treat opioid addiction. It was made to make money. It is not available through your regular doctor as stated. It is only available through a limited number of doctors. Those Dr’s charge highly inflated visit prices (up to $300) (often it’s a phone consultation) and only provide a prescription for one week of medication. The prescription costs roughly $75 with insurance. That comes out to be almost $400/week which very few opioid addicts can afford. This, like most things, is all about the money. The government, those controlling government, or the doctors give a shit about actually helping people with the addictions they often times helped create. Humanity is lost in todays society. Most of us are just too concerned with surviving ourselves and those that can help, don’t. 99% of us struggling with soo many issues that wouldn’t exist if we didn’t have to earn soo little for doing all the work that makes the world go round while less than 1% us reap all the rewards. Very few of the people in control have done shit to earn their wealth. Dirty greedy fcks just manipulated the system, outright stole, or simply printed their money. Now they pretend investing it is contributing when it’s simply an attempt to gain even more. We just let it all happen too. Why? Bc we can’t do shit about it. Why? Bc there will always be enough of us that will accept their payments to impose their will upon us. We stand together and 1% could never have such power over our lives but we stand divided and we are used like slaves and slaughter house animals. Humans aren’t shit bc of this.
there are state funded programs too tho
SMART MAN!!!
I just started taking this. I don’t see any way I could addicted. It literally just makes me feel absolutely normal. No high at all. I only started to take the pills to get off Percocet. That I started buying on the street. I just wanted to feel good. I was spending 3 to 5 hundred a day. Taking about 120 ml. A day. Each pill was about 10ml. I was taking about 3 pills to start. Then two more and continue that cycle through out the day. I’m in day one of taking Suboxone. I started with one 2mg. pill under my tongue. I still felt withdrawal symptoms from the Percocet. I had taken my last pill at 11p.m. The night before. I did not start the Suboxone until 4 p.m. the next day. Which was 15 hrs. since my last Percocet. Since I still felt withdrawal symptoms after take 1 Suboxone. I took one more 2mg under my tongue about and hour after my first dose. That did the trick. I felt no more withdrawal symptoms after that. I fell asleep at 6 p.m. and woke up at 9:30 p.m. still didn’t feel withdrawal. It’s now 11p.m. I have an appetite. No symptoms. I’m about to eat and go back to sleep. I don’t want to be dependent on any drug.
I’m thinking can I just take these until the Percocet are completely out?
They say to take it 24 hours after? But the last time i took a pill was at 11pm too & its now 2pm the next day since ive taken one is 4pm fine to take it? Ive never taken subs before before i have the buprenorphine & nalaxone sublingual film strips (8mg) do you know how much i should take?
That's what I'm wondering
Oh it will take awhile it takes time and patience .. I took Suboxone and it was fine but my pain was still very prevalent I have a lifelong illness that painful .. so I'm back on methadone 30 milgms a day is all the government in my state will allow ..
How sad
😥
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