Ha, I’m the other way around, how come it’s taken 30 years to work out basics like seat tube angle, reach, head angle and fork offset? Why are we only just getting this stuff dialled in 2024?
Yeti should have just kept the 4.5 and avoided all these variations that ppl impulsively buy then realize it's nit for them! SB 4.5 was a gem and covered all the bases!
Uh... No? It's no different than any of the other downcountry bikes. Switch infinity is marketing. Look at the suspension curve and there's nothing unique.
Yeah the SJ which is still less than $3k for a carbon frame is the benchmark for the shorter travel trail ripper. There are certainly several great 120-130mm bikes...but not many that are as good and as affordable as a SJ.
The is no comparison, Yeti SB120 is an all mountain bike the Stumpjumper is Cross Country. I prefer Yeti a million times, it's just a stronger frame that will never brake.
@@Venatt1 I’d say it is the other way around: the Stumpjumper is a 140 travel trail bike (epic is Specialized xc bike) Stumpjumper might be closer to Yeti’s 140 than 120
It has a 11% progression ratio. You are gonna run the shock at max pressure otherwise youll be hitting the bottom out bumper nonstop. This is nothing more than a cool looking downcountry bike.
Agree it's a great looking bike, and also concerned with bottoming out. I'm currently looking to upgrade from my SB4.5, what bike/s would you recommend instead of this one?
There should be two versions of this bike one with a 120mm XC fork (Rock Shox Sid, Fox 34 Step Cast) and the other with a 140mm Fork (Rock Shox Pike, Fox 36). In addition, I think the geo could be more progressive with something like 77* STA and 66* HTA with 120mm fork or 76* STA and 65* HTA with 140mm fork.
My friend put this bike together for his son and before I knew it he was done ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L When the son came to put it together he was surprised to see it was already done. All he had to do was take the bike to get air and be on his way. My friend did not have any major problems putting this bike together; small issue was putting one of the brakes on straight; however when the son got home he was able to fix it. The bike rides well gears move correctly; good bike for the price. Wrote review after the son took the bike. Sorry.
Everything they improved, other bikes like the Pivot Trail 429, Santa Cruz Tallboy & Ibis Ripley already have had that for 2 years. So nothing new here or better than those.
Interesting because if any other manufacturer put out a 66 HA they'd be called "behind the times" with 65 showing up everywhere. Everyone jeered when Ripley kept the geometry where it was instead of slackening like AF, same with element and canyon praised with the spectral 125 slack geo. Hopefully yeti gets the same treatment. This geo has been around for almost 4 years now
Lol WTF? So every bike manufacturer should make their trail bikes’ geometry exactly the same, otherwise they are going to be scrutinised by randoms on the internet who haven’t even seen much less ridden the bike?! 🤷🏼♂️😂
@@Mockle07 who said that? We definitely need variety in geometry; I just said that they should be open to the same criticisms as anyone else because it's not a ground breaking bike. But they definitely should have committed one way or another to towards trail end or DC end of the spectrum because it looks confused.
@@matthewserna7475 You are saying that a difference of 1 degree in the HTA is the difference between ground breaking and run of the mill or outdated. What’s ground breaking about a 65 degree HTA?! 🤷🏼♂️😂 Besides, not every bike has to be ground breaking; how many truly ground breaking bikes have there been in the last few years? There are far, FAR too many ‘geometry experts’ in mountain biking 🤦🏼♂️
We got two of these for our daughters ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L the same size for age 6 and 9. It works very well for both girls. Gears were very easy for them to learn. Changing gears up takes some hand strength and is a bit hard, but they are learning. They did not come with water bottle holders- we actually got confused and thought the Derailler Guard was the bottle holder!! Regardless of these details, the bikes are fantastic- even our six year old who only just learned to ride bikes caught on within an hour of practice and loves it. Lightweight and easy for them to handle. All the parts are in excellent condition and the bikes are easy to assemble and very well packaged. Great choice for kids!
LOL These "Yeti should've done this and that HTA, STA etc" "behind the times" Gvie me a break. Geometry isn't an "Innovation". its choices. If you've been around MTB for more than a month, you know that ANY tech, any changes involve tradeoffs.
Just been thinking the exact same thing. All MTB comments sections are full of people complaining about HT angles being 1 degree different, reach being 5mm too big/small or whatever 🙄 Fuck me, do people want ALL bikes to be exactly the same? 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️😂
@@jakubklouda2474 I live just a few hours from Golden where their headquarters are located they should give out local discounts or something because in their home state I see very few on the trails.
Threaded BB!!!!!
And geo is awesome
haven't seen anything revolutionary in the bike industry in years
Ha, I’m the other way around, how come it’s taken 30 years to work out basics like seat tube angle, reach, head angle and fork offset? Why are we only just getting this stuff dialled in 2024?
Yeti should have just kept the 4.5 and avoided all these variations that ppl impulsively buy then realize it's nit for them! SB 4.5 was a gem and covered all the bases!
Jeez! I thought $4k was a lot for a plastic bike!
At least they got the memo about threaded bb and collared pivots.
So modern and cutting edge.
Uh... No? It's no different than any of the other downcountry bikes. Switch infinity is marketing. Look at the suspension curve and there's nothing unique.
@@conman1395 I think his comment was sarcastic
@@ervin7178 exactly.
@@conman1395maybe because this is a kind of optimum suspension curve so all great bikes tend to be close to this suspension curve ?
Can’t wait for this one
It would be nice to see a comparison with specialized stumpjumper
Yeah the SJ which is still less than $3k for a carbon frame is the benchmark for the shorter travel trail ripper. There are certainly several great 120-130mm bikes...but not many that are as good and as affordable as a SJ.
The is no comparison, Yeti SB120 is an all mountain bike the Stumpjumper is Cross Country. I prefer Yeti a million times, it's just a stronger frame that will never brake.
@@Venatt1 I’d say it is the other way around: the Stumpjumper is a 140 travel trail bike (epic is Specialized xc bike) Stumpjumper might be closer to Yeti’s 140 than 120
@@GreenTimYoung Yeti SB140 weighs more than SB120.
@@Venatt1 true, not much in it though.
It has a 11% progression ratio. You are gonna run the shock at max pressure otherwise youll be hitting the bottom out bumper nonstop. This is nothing more than a cool looking downcountry bike.
Agree it's a great looking bike, and also concerned with bottoming out. I'm currently looking to upgrade from my SB4.5, what bike/s would you recommend instead of this one?
There should be two versions of this bike one with a 120mm XC fork (Rock Shox Sid, Fox 34 Step Cast) and the other with a 140mm Fork (Rock Shox Pike, Fox 36). In addition, I think the geo could be more progressive with something like 77* STA and 66* HTA with 120mm fork or 76* STA and 65* HTA with 140mm fork.
67* had angle with the 120mm fork would be better suited for an xc version.
I think the Yeti 140 is close to the bike you are describing. The 120 is more of a long mileage bike, like the reviewer says.
My friend put this bike together for his son and before I knew it he was done ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L When the son came to put it together he was surprised to see it was already done. All he had to do was take the bike to get air and be on his way. My friend did not have any major problems putting this bike together; small issue was putting one of the brakes on straight; however when the son got home he was able to fix it. The bike rides well gears move correctly; good bike for the price. Wrote review after the son took the bike. Sorry.
the last minute of the video tells you all you need to know
6300-12,000.00..yikes.
Still 3000 cheaper than a spark with the same spec.
Don’t worry you could buy frame only for 4300…
Everything they improved, other bikes like the Pivot Trail 429, Santa Cruz Tallboy & Ibis Ripley already have had that for 2 years. So nothing new here or better than those.
prices are out of control
Interesting because if any other manufacturer put out a 66 HA they'd be called "behind the times" with 65 showing up everywhere. Everyone jeered when Ripley kept the geometry where it was instead of slackening like AF, same with element and canyon praised with the spectral 125 slack geo. Hopefully yeti gets the same treatment. This geo has been around for almost 4 years now
Where?
@@bdubs1967 in the bike listed in my comment
Lol WTF? So every bike manufacturer should make their trail bikes’ geometry exactly the same, otherwise they are going to be scrutinised by randoms on the internet who haven’t even seen much less ridden the bike?! 🤷🏼♂️😂
@@Mockle07 who said that? We definitely need variety in geometry; I just said that they should be open to the same criticisms as anyone else because it's not a ground breaking bike. But they definitely should have committed one way or another to towards trail end or DC end of the spectrum because it looks confused.
@@matthewserna7475 You are saying that a difference of 1 degree in the HTA is the difference between ground breaking and run of the mill or outdated. What’s ground breaking about a 65 degree HTA?! 🤷🏼♂️😂 Besides, not every bike has to be ground breaking; how many truly ground breaking bikes have there been in the last few years?
There are far, FAR too many ‘geometry experts’ in mountain biking 🤦🏼♂️
We got two of these for our daughters ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L the same size for age 6 and 9. It works very well for both girls. Gears were very easy for them to learn. Changing gears up takes some hand strength and is a bit hard, but they are learning. They did not come with water bottle holders- we actually got confused and thought the Derailler Guard was the bottle holder!! Regardless of these details, the bikes are fantastic- even our six year old who only just learned to ride bikes caught on within an hour of practice and loves it. Lightweight and easy for them to handle. All the parts are in excellent condition and the bikes are easy to assemble and very well packaged. Great choice for kids!
LOL These "Yeti should've done this and that HTA, STA etc" "behind the times" Gvie me a break. Geometry isn't an "Innovation". its choices. If you've been around MTB for more than a month, you know that ANY tech, any changes involve tradeoffs.
Just been thinking the exact same thing. All MTB comments sections are full of people complaining about HT angles being 1 degree different, reach being 5mm too big/small or whatever 🙄 Fuck me, do people want ALL bikes to be exactly the same? 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️😂
@@Mockle07 One could come to that conclusion. Must be alot of out of work bike engineers out there who evidently know better.
I'd have put the HTA at 65.5.
That bike is the sb140. Only 20mm travel difference and they climb equally well.
Only 66.5 head angle??
It should be steeper.
Where's the motor and battery?
🥱
With that price tag Yeti doesn’t want guys like me owning one so I’ll just scoop up a Revel Ranger or Transition Spur instead. :)
Ranger frameset cost same
@@jakubklouda2474 nah Ranger is $3399 in the US , Yeti $4300. 1k is a big difference.
@@323johnnybravo in europe they are the same price
@@jakubklouda2474 I live just a few hours from Golden where their headquarters are located they should give out local discounts or something because in their home state I see very few on the trails.
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