This is a different tragedy, but in 2003 a club caught on fire. There's footage of the burning building and as the minutes tick away, you slowly hear the screaming stop. It's horrific to watch.
With how young these last survivors were at the time it was probably more about how the family was impacted by the event then them actually remembering the events first hand. Or it could be that for those who were toddler age it was so traumatic it sticks out of early memory
Its quite understandable that the Titanic survivers do not want to watch the movie. They lost atleast one member of their family in a tragical way due to this ship. The impact it played upon their lives is priceless. Out of the two who watched the movie, one had all her family members survived. So the impact on her is minor compared to others. And ethe other person (Titanic orphan), who watched the movie maybe the only one recovered the trauma to such an extent All others have non healing wounds in their heats. Even some says they see the same nightmare again and again Poor souls. Hope they are all resting in peace now.
I think *part* of the reason the film had such an impact on us back in 1997 is because we were still connected to that era. The survivors you mentioned were still alive, as were plenty of other elderly people who were alive in 1912. We were still connected to that era through them so the film felt different for us. Now, that connection is lost and to so many in the newer generation, it looks like just another historic event of the past that's too far removed to have that sense of connection. Sorry, that was beside the point but I wanted to share the thought. ☺
Yeah I think you’re right. It’s like, that could have been your great-great-grandparents on that ship. Now that it’s been well over 100 years, it’s a little different. Like it’s just another one of the crazy, life changing events of the early 1900’s; lumped with WWI and WWII, etc.
Eva Hart was 6 or 7 years old when she was on the Titanic and sadly she passed just before Titanic came out in 1997. I'm sure she would have watched it because she was heavily into it and always did interviews about it. She's the only one that's consistent with the same story ever since originally being interviewed.
@@ericaespinosa4030 Eva was so genuine she made you feel like you were actually there... Titanic is my favorite movie, never get tired of watching it! Always wondered if Eva Hart ever had any children?
She didn’t. If you watch her interview she says she can’t even look at pictures of the titanic as it’s to traumatising. If she won’t look at a picture I doubt she would watch the movie.
@@lucygilbertson3746 Well, there's a photo/ interview of her holding up a picture of the Titanic and smiling so she did look at pictures of the Titanic!
Reminds me of when many D-Day veterans went to see Saving Private Ryan. It was so realistic and traumatic they actually set up a hotline for ptsd stricken vets who watched the movie. My Uncle was also friends with a D-Day vet who went and saw the movie.. he said it was like he was there on that Beach all over again.
Exactly the other closest thing that I was thinking with a similar situation, and yes I heard it was a really rough experience for the vets to experience.
My father was a D-Day veteran, and the Battle of the Bulge. He went to see Saving Private Ryan. He thought it was a good movie, but nothing like what he experienced. The inaccuracies of the battle scenes annoyed him.
As someone who witnessed a traumatic death firsthand, if someone were to make a movie about what I experienced, I wouldn't have watched it. I don't want to relive those moments and I also wouldn't want to see an outsider's interpretation of what happened.
Let me tell ya, I’m a combat vet. I watch combat movies about the battles I fought in in Iraq and I have only ever seen one that I didn’t tell “bullshit” at. It’s actually quite infuriating to see people take events like that and dick them up.
You have that right - understandable but many others who were not involved can be educated as a means of prevention. Don’t watch if it triggers you but also remember that you, nor anyone else doesn’t hold the monopoly on events that happened publicly.
There were actually people who remembered the accident watch A Night to Remember...Would be interesting to hear of everyone who watched that film and what they thought about it.
Yeah. There was a higher chance for a higher amount of survivors to watch A Night To Remember. A Night To Remember clearly has less inaccuracies than the 1997 movie that has the fictional love story. I think A Night To Remember is better( no offense )
@@wonghelen1455 A Night To Remember definitely has more details about the ship, but honestly for a Hollywood movie, James Cameron did a really good job capturing the true details of the ship. Like I can't think of any inaccuracies the 1997 movie even had. It was really well done.
@@tmm4195 yeah, and without putting in the real actions of a real hero named Molly brown. A Night To Remember got it right by putting in the important detail of Margaret Brown ( Before nicknamed "Molly" after her death) of her threatening to thrown Robert Hinches ( a heartless coward) overboard when James Cameron put it the other way around!!!(Not by accident ) He was even aware of it!!!
@@wonghelen1455 Yeah Cameron stated he changed some things, but overall I think he did well at making an accurate movie about the Titanic. As far as capturing the true essence of the ship, I think Titanic did a better job than the A Night To Remember
@@tmm4195 I love the movie because of that, it captures the essence of it and makes you care. I also think it was great to center it around fictional characters, bc that way you could put them where you need to and make them interact with the right and wrong people. If you make a film about real people, there's always the chance of fucking up details that people will not be happy about. "Oh you made them interact with X person when he just held open her door once and never talked" like... this way he had more liberties WHILE also centering them around an historical event with pretty accurate overall details. He wanted to make you care, and it's easier to care when you're focused in one person rather than a large concept of historical event.
Am reminded that Gloria Stuart, who played the modern-day Rose Dawson in the movie, was born in July 1910, and was the only cast member of the movie "Titanic" who was alive (more than 1 year old) when the actual Titanic sank. And like her character in the movie, she lived up to 100 years old (passed away in 2010).
I think if I were a survivor I'd watch it if I didn't actually see anyone dying and if I didn't lose anyone on the disaster myself. Otherwise I think it would be very very hard to relieve extremely traumatic memories.
Yeah, at first I thought most of those survivors when the movie came out, would have been too young to remember the actual sinking and therefore would be curious to watch it. However, those who lost a parent in the sinking would probably still be too traumatized by the event, to want to see the movie
For many Americans and Canadians the Titanic story resonated because their family members- grandparents and great grandparents had emigrated to North America by steam ship across the Atlantic from Europe. They still had strong family connections to that period of history with the stories still fresh and with the final handful of elders who experienced the journey still living. The story for the Titanic represents one of the very first modern disaster stories to hit the headlines and have a major world wide impact through newspaper media. The Hindenburg disaster was the first to be captured on film. The Kennedy Assassination, 9/11, Princess Diana's death, the Boxing Day Tsunami and of course the Japanese Tsunami have all since had a similar world wide impact.
What's interesting about Titanic is that so many people are connected to it one way or another. We have a family story that my grandpa with his parents and 2 brothers had gone to Belgium (where great grandma and grandpa were originally from) to pickup their belongings that were supposed to have been shipped to America on Titanic's return trip. I don't know when they left but Ellis island records have them returning to Ellis island in June 1912 on the Lapland which is the ship that took Titanic's surviving crew home after the u.s. inquiry.
Don’t forget Krakatoa! That eruption was reported via telegraph, so every newspaper in Europe and America carried stories about it as the story was ongoing.
Do you think it is felt any less by British and Irish families who lost their loved ones in the disaster ? Besides the Hindenburg crash , another early event that few are aware was filmed was the sinking of Bismarck ; a young Ludovic Kennedy , later to become a famous journalist and broadcaster , had the only cine camera in the task force , and filmed the chase on his 16mm camera . This is mentioned in Ballard's book 'Discovering The Bismarck' . I don't know what became of the film , it may be in Royal Navy Archives .
The two who watched Cameron's Titanic were babies/toddlers and so don't personally remember the tragedy. Of course, knowing their father died would be distressing to watch. But those who were old enough to remember, then watched 1958 ANTR ....wow
Michel Navratil was almost 4, around the same time my son is now. Kids do remember stuff from this age, especially strong memories. I do have a personal memory from such age, a memory of traveling to the Berlin wall with my parents right after it fell, being allowed to hit it with a piece of concrete... I wondered if that was an actual memory or just my imagination from when my parents told me, but then years later I saw myself on a photo and yes, the memory was quite correct, including the angle I was standing at and the vegetation around it. Also, interesting fact - Navratil's father was from Slovakia, in Slovak "Navratil" means "the returned one".
I know quite a few survivors watched the 1958 movie A Night to Remember. Of course more of them were alive then. But many of them said they were amazed by the accuracy of how the disaster unfolded.
The only difference being the titanic didn’t split in two in A Night to Remember. Many didn’t believe that happened despite the survivors saying it did.
@@jandm4ever716 True, but it was a really dark night once the lights on the ship went out. I think the survivors were split 50/50 as to whether or not the ship broke in two. That wasn't confirmed until 1985 when the wreck was discovered. The writer and director of the 1958 movie did well with the knowledge available at that time.
It's an interesting topic to consider, because in 1997, the remaining survivors of the Titanic were so young during the tragedy, some too young to recollect anything about it. Yet they still lost loved ones. I can't even begin to imagine the emotional burden they carried.
It’s infuriating to know how much more space was left on those life boats. So many perished needlessly. So many more legacies cut short by incompetence.
Yeah I have no idea why Lightoller is looked upon rather favorably as far as I can tell… he’s the one that enforced “women and children *only*” (not first, *only*). He’s the one responsible for releasing those empty lifeboats. Oh by the why after the ship went down he floated to the surface, climbed into a lifeboat, and rowed away
I recommend history hit’s video “expert answers titanic questions” because it puts a lot into perspective. there were a lot of reasons life boats weren’t full and it wasn’t incompetence. for one, they thought they would have much less time until she sank (they expected 1.5 hours but got 2.5), and worried they wouldn’t have time. they opted for 18 partially empty life boats than, say, 12 full life boats. especially since dispatched life boats could still be filled from the water, but boats that got left behind and sank with the ship before they could be filled could do nothing. even though they ended up having an hour more time than they thought, they still didn’t have enough to dispatch all the lifeboats! two went down with her.
The one story that would make the most compelling drama, was that of the lone Japanese passenger: Masabumi Hosono, who boarded lifeboat 10 because he feared leaving his wife(at home with their children) a widow. Afterwards his act was made to be one of cowardice by his homeland; dishonorable on a national level. The disgrace continued even after his death in 1939(described as peacefully in his sleep).
You cannot call anyone a Coward in a situation like that . Fear and panic takes over . All you can do is call People Heroes who decided to not get in a boat but nobody was a Coward
Weird to see how different and opposite the Japanese were. Doing one of arguably the most heroic thoughtful things for your family is viewed as one of the worst things you could’ve done by your fellow countrymen…
@@NefariousEvildoerJapan has done a lot of beyond shameful things in the past that they have yet to atone for or even acknowledge. Very hypocritical and cruel that they were calling for this man to commit su*cide out of some stupid sense of honor that they don’t have in the first place
When I went to see Pearl Harbor in theaters, there were 5 vets there watching it also that were at Pearl Harbor when it was attacked. They were balling after. They caused half the lobby to cry after the movie.
A similar feeling would be if you lost family members during 9/11 and then were asked to watch movies or documentaries based on those events. If you lived those events too personally, there's not anything such movies or films can help with on an emotional level, it's only reliving a horror you don't want to experience again.
Personally, I find the idea of a 9/11 movie unnecessary and cringe. It doesn’t help that I’ve heard it described as bad. Probably similar to how people view films based on tragedies they lived through
It would also feel very much like people are (very literally) capitalising on the deaths and horror of it all I genuinely do believe that James Cameron wanted to do his best in re creating the tragedy as well as being very interested in the subject but it would never have been made if the studios didn't think it would be a success The only reason it was made was to make money... I'm not sure how I would feel sitting in a group of people so emotionally removed from the situation looking for entertainment from something designed to only make money...
@@peacefulmaroon I don't consider myself a 9/11 survivor as I wasn't in any of the buildings, but I was close to the World trade center that day. Close enough to hear the first plane hit, and even closer to witness the 2nd one as we had walked closer to see what had happened. I was supposed to be in school that day, but my mom had paperwork to drop off at a building nearby, and she asked if I wanted to take the day off from school to take the train into the city with her. So of course i said yes. After the 2nd plane hit, it rained glass and debris near us and I remember seeing a man who got hit with debris having convulsions on the floor. My mom and I took refuge in a coffee shop, and when the tower collapsed, the whole shop turned pitch black as the power went out and the windows and doors were covered in soot. I literally thought the world was ending, and we later walked for hours looking for a way home as there was no trains in service anymore. Worst day of my life, left me with severe panic attacks and PTSD. I could not watch the news footage or anything for years, it wasn't till 2017 that I tried watching some documentaries and clips on UA-cam but couldn't. I know there's been a few movies about it but obviously I'd never watch them. Personally if I was a Titanic survivor I'd be upset that the 97 version turned it into a love story. Could not imagine a 9/11 film having a love story subplot.
My Nan was born in 1923, 11 years after Titanic sank. She grew up in a time when it was still fresh in the minds of those around her. In 1997, she refused to watch Titanic saying it was disrespectful. Even now at 100-years-old, I can't convince her to watch it. 🙁
Thank you for coming online as part of those interested in RMS Titanic and for bringing a new vibrancy and a new generation with you! This was an interesting summary of survivors who were alive at the time of the James Cameron film in 1997. As a lifelong Titanic enthusiast, and a native Californian, living on the outskirts of Southampton, her story and that of all the other transatlantic liners resonates very strongly. Being in the Southampton vicinity after having a more detached understanding of Titanic for many years prior, it has opened a new universe, an epiphany really, regarding those who built her, her passengers across the three classes, and especially on the crew, who really got the short end of the stick. Having a chat with locals in the odd bookstore, Co-op or other venue, it's interesting to hear once in a while how many of them have relatives, not just related to Titanic, who served aboard the hundreds of ships sailing out of Southampton, during peacetime and war, who are part of the social fabric of the Golden Age of Transatlantic Travel.
I was a senior in high school, and this came out and of course, I couldn’t wait to go see it in the theaters. But I never gave a thought to the actual real survivors of the titanic. Thanks for putting this video up here. I stumbled across it quite by accident. And yes, like you said this Spond, my interest in the titanic.
Great video, as always, but this one have an emotional connection between Titanic and some survivors, which is something more than facts and data, which makes Titanic a living memory inside the minds of life survivors.
What you said is pretty disrespectful. You can still have trauma about something even if you don't remember it. The thought of being on a boat that killed so many people, a boat that took their own family members life, and the trauma that would cause their other family. It's a lot and even if you don't remember it happening it can still be traumatic.
Aw yeah! I remember hearing about Millvina’s death when I was finishing middle school in 2008-2009. Continued rest in peace to her and all those who died that night and the other survivors!
Sinkings are traumatic. Not too long ago there was this channel that reunited a family with a boat that had sunk in Lake Powell 30 years ago. The guys on this channel found this boat there that was no longer underwater due to drought and somehow managed to get it running and looking really nice. And they managed to track down the original owners. Great story, right? Invite them to show up and surprise them with the keys to their boat which they could take out on the same Lake again. I know the expected reaction in my mind was, wow, you guys did such an amazing job, thank you this is fantastic. Sadly, the filmed event was a reinventation to relive the trauma, especially for the father. Not exactly on the same scale of asking a Titanic Survivor to accept a ticket to take a trip on a replica boat, but the guy was visibly shaken. Later in the episode the creators essentially handed he guy the keys, and had probably initially been thinking that the guy would be happy and jump at the chance to Captain his old boat again. He wanted no part of that first trip and chose to remain on shore instead. ua-cam.com/video/5B-gy-pwroU/v-deo.html (He relives the sinking experience starting somewhere around the 15-minute mark) If I'm part of an experience like that I hope I could desensitize myself enough to live with it, but I completely understand why some people would not want to have anything to do with that kind of trauma ever again, whether it's connected with the loss of hundreds of lives about a hundred years ago or experiencing your dream boat needlessly go down while you watch plenty of other boats speed by you unwilling to stop or help.
With the new technology to make movies in 1997, I think it would have been more traumatic for any survivor to see that night depicted on the big screen. So many of them saw A Night to Remember and many of them liked it for its accuracy. I think they would have been blown away by Cameron's Titanic
If I was old enough to remember the disaster, I probably wouldn't watch it because of the horrible memories it would inevitably bring up. But If I had been a baby or toddler, having no clear memories of the sinking, I'd probably be curious and try to watch. But i definitely would not have wanted to watch it in a public setting with other people present. I'd want to see it in the privacy of my own home, possibly with close friends or family there for support.
I'd be curious to know (probably impossible now) how many survivors watched the 1950's "Night To Remember" which is largely what Cameron based his movie from.
Eva Hart did she was six or seven when the Titanic sank and vividly remembers everything and her story was always consistent, never changed in every interview she did.
Fourth Officer Joseph Boxhall was not only a survivor , but a technical advisor to William McQuitty in the making of ANTR , so he would certainly have seen it . Even more would have seen the Hollywood movie 'Titanic' of 1953 , being made five years earlier , but alas Charles Lightoller , the other surviving senior officer , died in 1952 , the year before that movie came out .
I had family on the Titanic, they were first class and they survived. I was in Kindergarten when the movie came out. I watched it later on and was like wow, my family was on that ship. If I were a passenger and survivor I would probably watch it.
@@SailorNeptune1991 that's so interesting... When did you find out about them? Has it affected your life in any way? Do your family share stories about them or anything in this sense?
@@YgorCortes, I actually worded that wrong. My great great grandmother was the only survivor. But I found out from family, mainly my grandparents and cousins. Then I did my ancestry DNA test and seen the records which I already knew about. It has sparked some interesting conversations. I also have my great great grandparents pearl necklace and pocket watch that was on the Titanic that she got before she boarded the life boat.
My great grandfather was a crewman on Titanic, Albert Horswill. He survived the wreck on the lifeboat with the Duff Gordons. He passed before I was born. My dad told me that Albert did not speak of the sinking. Growing up we had a painting of the ship that belonged to my great grandfather that a friend painted for him. He testified at the British Inquiry into the disaster that the ship broke apart. I’m fortunate he survived, wouldn’t be here if he hadn’t.
I belong to the Norfolk titanic society, and I met Milvina Dean once and she was a exceptionally lively lady that is that perfect grandma. She was not happy films were made about it or making money off it as it was very traumatic for her mother who told her from beginning to the end. It's as if I was there the way Milvina was telling the story. It was emotional and I still think what she told us years later. Trust me it's not nice. As she said, that wreck is her father's and other people's graves, all well they are gone but it's where they are, their spirit is. She believes like a sunken warship it should be a grave not a tourist attraction.
My gg grandmother was a titanic survivor she was 14 yrs old when the titanic went down so was my ggg grandmother 1st class. Man I heard her story back when I was in 6th grade she was already near 100 yrs old then. And man just thinking about it makes my hair stand up the movie gets part of it. But from what she said the it was loud you could hear the ship breaking and what sounded like bombs going off like ww2 she said. And she said the ship did seem to break in half and she did get to see the wreck site on video. Which was net and she started crying I remember my grandfather having ti turn it off because the wreck gave her a form of ptsd
is interesting and totally makes sense. Movies have to play it down so we can hear the actors. We overlook or downplay the senses that don't show up well in movies.
Jack's death indicates those who died in titanic that are mostly men and 3rd class. Rose's survival indicates the women in titanic who r saved in lifeboats and they lived a long traumatic life being a widow losing their husbands in titanic.
I was always interested in Titanic, beginning around the time I was 5-6, and watched so many documentaries and read so many books, and stumbled across the James Cameron film when I was maybe 6-7. I thought at first this was real, like a real footage of the Titanic disaster.
As much as I find it important to preserve the artefacts recovered from the wreck, the stories of the survivors to be told and the fascination of the event, extremely important, I also find it extremely important to respect the wreck and the area as a graveyard. Please let the victims rest there in peace🙏🏻❤️✡️✝️☪️
A lot of these survivors were so young that they don't even remember the sinking. So I wonder why it affected them so bad. Maybe family trauma passed on to them?
You can still have trauma about something even if you don't remember it. The thought of being on a boat that killed so many people, a boat that took their own family members life, and the trauma that would cause their other family. It's a lot and even if you don't remember it happening it can still be traumatic.
That and suppressed memories. The events are still there in their minds. Like say your mother died when you're 2 and years later, you hear her voice on a recording, it would likely feel familiar and make you sad. Like that, the trauma can still linger in many ways. Water freaking them out, or the cold terrifying them. The idea of being on a boat filling them with horror. If they weren't told about this, they wouldn't know why they feel that way, but they still could feel that way. Hell, even if you were older when something happens, your mind can still block those memories and you don't remember, but you still suffer the effects of it. I know someone who has no memory of being assaulted at a young age, but being held down makes her go into a wild panic. Trauma doesn't go away just because you don't remember it. Trauma literally changes the brain. So even if you can't remember, the brain has still been changed and the effects are still going to be there, even if you can't remember why.
i have heard that when we experience a traumatic event, even when we are very young, our brains tend to remember that moment more vividly, i am sure you can look up the science behind it
it's like war. When people lose family members in a war, they didn't experience the event itself, but it will always stick with them as what killed their father. And that's what happened here. Milvina Dean was 9 weeks so had zero recollection, and yet she lost the father she never knew on that ship
The thing though about babies is... they have zero recollection of trauma. Imagine what we would all be like remembering our own births. Or experiencing an utterly foreign reality for the first time. Or, just going from oblivion to cognizance would be a memory that would drive you insane. The upshot is, the survivors trauma at the time of the release was acquired long after the event of the sinking, and created explicitly by subjective, second hand stories.
What you said is pretty disrespectful. You can still have trauma about something even if you don't remember it. The thought of being on a boat that killed so many people, a boat that took their own family members life, and the trauma that would cause their other family. It's a lot and even if you don't remember it happening it can still be traumatic.
@@brumeargenteethat's absolute bogus, spurred on by later perceptions. The human brain is not advanced or developed enough to form a memory at that age. There is also no biological or evolutionary reason for it. Humans can retain memories from before they know how to walk properly. It's my belief that humans are capable of storing memories the second their able to "observe" and make decisions sparked by a sense of curiosity.. not well reflected or smart decisions by any means, but a decision none the less. This also would make the most sense logically because this an evidence of a primitive bare-mminimum conscience, and experiences/observations being recollected at older ages is plausible (especially when the memory is regularly revisited and being reminded of it). But there is no way you objectively have any actual recollection of being a newborn, a stage of existance where every function and operation is purely reactionary and instinctive, and even less functioning then that of most animals (human babies are the most useless organism in the animal kingdom). That is about as believable as those who claim they remember their "past lives".
When Titanic came out, I was already a Leo fan and an avid Titanic reader(?) .. Seeing the film in theater 4x made me ever the more interested in the actual stories.. Oh to have spoken with the older survivors., not the babies or toddlers of the tragedy- bless them all.
I would imagine watching the 1997 version would be far more difficult for the survivors. I mean, it's one thing to see the night recreated in vivid accurate detail, but I think it's something else entirely for them to see actual footage of the wreck itself at the bottom of the ocean. That would be rough. If I was a survivor, and I knew before hand that they had that footage in the movie, I probably wouldnt watch it either. I wouldnt want to see what it looks like sitting on the ocean floor.
I think I'd agree with Asher H if I'd been a Titanic survivor, though I'm not really sure if I would have ever healed emotionally from the disaster. Would depend whether I was one of the survivors who got off on a lifeboat or one of the few survivors who was still on Titanic as she went down and then rescued from the water.
I wouldn’t be able to sit through a 9/11 movie-and I wasn’t even on site. I watched it unfold like most of the rest of us (those of us old enough, oh gosh) on television. I think for the very young survivors of Titanic I’m sure it’s a little different, a way to reconnect with an experience they might not quite remember.
I saw the movie United 93 and it's one I've never had a desire to see again, but glad for the experience of seeing it once. I also saw Schindler's List and wouldn't want to see it a second time either. You don't have to have actually lived through the moments depicted for it to have a profound effect on you.
I honestly would not wanna see the movie if I was a Titanic survivor, I wouldn't want to be reminded of all of those terrible memories and seeing all those drowning and hearing those screams and that lady was right about going to the Titanic wreck it is kinda like disrespecting those people's grave
@@compteprivefr What would be the equivalent of than in our time if let's say the Titanic just sink just 30 years ago? So it probably happened in the 90s so the survivors will be the equivalent of people from the 90s that we're interacting today?
Atleast western society learned from the tragedy and implemented better safety precautions on board new ships that where made in the future..Its just sad that there are countless other tragedies like the Titanic that went un noticed by the public and the casualties where forgotten completely.
NONE of these survivors would have had ANY memory of Titanic, so their reactions are essentially that of an old person watching an intense drama. One tends to be increasingly emotional with age so essentially their reactions were to the thought of it having happened to them. And who wouldn't react like that?
I can see the younger survivors going to see this movie, because they probably don't have memories of the event. I can't remember anything before the age of 5. As for the elderly who could remember, why would they go see this movie? They lived it and have lived with it since then. As for me, I'm pretty sure my answer would have been no if I was old enough to remember. Fun fact, apparently a survivor of the Titanic was part of a movie in the 1910s about the event, where he played a survivor (minor role). Sadly, the footage had been lost and the movie was never released.
When the movie Battle of Britain was released in 1968 I asked my mother , who lived in London during the war, if she would like to see it. She shrugged and smiled and said ‘no thanks son, I saw the real thing’.
I understand where not wanting to watch the movies about the ship and her voyagers makes sense. It's an event that hits hard and not wanting to remember or even think about what happened to loved ones who passed away on her would be hard. While I do think we should honor her memory and make sure we pass along the story she told, I also understand that digging into her wreck is like digging into someone's grave. As much as I would love for more pieces of her wreck to be lifted, I also think we should let her pieces lay where they are. Basically if I was in the same position and unless I completely moved on, I wouldn't want to watch it as well. To relieve those past events would be so disheartening and could bring up new traumas.
I wasn't aware any survivors watched James Cameron's movie, so this is interesting to learn. I recently uploaded a video where I take a brief tour of the ship from the zombie mode in "Black Ops 4". It actually turned out okay considering what I was having to work with. I missed a few areas but overall I got a decent amount of locations covered. Just something I decided to do as I'm also a big fan of all things Titanic. Hopefully someone will like it. Nice & informative discussion. :)
1997 movie Titanic is so much more than entertainment. It is a tribute. It is historical in its own right, as it ushered in so much awareness of a tragic event that might otherwise ...have been forgotten as succeeding generations passed. But it will be forever part of common knowledge. Such tragedy was gut-wrenchingly horrible, but some hard lessons resulted.
Interestingly, they made a movie of Titanic right after it happened (in 1912), and Titanic survivor Dorothy Gibson actually acted in it, even wearing the same clothes she had worn on that night!
it was a 10 minute silent film. And the actresss quit acting afterwards because she was so traumatized making that movie so soon after it happened she had a mental breakdown. She literally landed in New York and immediately her production studio had her to write a script about the titanic tragedy in about less than a week. And if I recall correctly, the film was written, filmed, edited and released theatrically within like three weeks (maybe it was three months either way that’s entirely way too soon) of its inception. @@thegoodsisjas
@@thegoodsisjas no definitely a movie, released in theaters. No copy still exists, and it was likely shot like a play (as many movies were back then) but it was still a movie
I think this movie would be too traumatic to watch for them! People who clicked "yes" have never had PTSD. My cousin wrote a book with my experience in it. I'm not reading that book 😑
Please, PLEASE make a video on the Titanic orphans. I read a book by Celia Imrie last month based on the young life of the children's mother and it was an absolutely incredible book, as is the story. I'd love to see you discuss it
would be the exact same argument if a 911 survivor watched a movie about 911 and twin towers collapsing even though its been years and years since the event to the survivor its still going to be fresh just like it happened yesterday its no way to ever get over a traumatic experience like that and watching a movie about it would be enough to make them literally go insane
If I were to survive that kind of massive tragedy, I wouldn’t want to watch the movie either. I wouldn’t want it to be some kind of bastardization of the real horrific experience that claimed so many lives….. At the very least I’d give it a few years to brace myself for some really painful memories.
I fully support recovering as many artifacts as possible, it’s all going to disintegrate into nothing anyways, no bodies remain down there, spiritually they have moved on. This way, many new generations can go and learn about this historical event. That’s a much better way to honour those lost and the families because nobody will ever forget them and the fact we want these artifacts raised shows we never want to.
in terms of A Night To Remember: the whole film is on youtube for anyone that is interested. It's quite telling to see how much was lifted from it and put into Titanic 1997!
@@westnblu You may be thinking about the SOS Titanic miniseries, the guy who places Spicer Lovejoy, Cal's valet in Titanic 97, also plays real second class passenger Lawrence Beesley, in SOS Titanic.
@@westnblu the British actor Bernard Fox played a role in both movies. He was Lookout Frederick Fleet, in A Night to Remember also played Colonel Gracie in James Cameron's Titanic. If you ever watched Hogans's Heroes, he played Colonel Crittendon.
What a wonderful man. How I miss this man! I remember being a child without a dad and all I had in my head what the wish that this was my dad. Whenever I was down I put a movie with him in it just for comfort.
I have 3 coincidences in my life 1 was born the same day she was launched 2 my birthday is on milvina deans day of passin RIP 3 I have the same surname as one of the lookouts
Millvina Dean, I hear her. Infant trauma hits you different. To this day, I have an deeply embedded fear of fire that comes across as odd, intense, and seemingly incurable due to a fire incident that I witnessed at 6 months old. Precognitive trauma leaves a huge hole and is a tough nut to crack. Especially as your trauma can only be told to you from others because you don't remember it, even though your body remembers it. That disconnect, lack of remembering from you only to have others fill in the blanks is unsettling to say the least.
My great grandfather Albert Horswill was a crewman aboard Titanic. He survived the wreck after Officer Murdoch ordered him and 6 other crewmen into cutter lifeboat one along with five first class passengers. Cosmo and Lucy Duff Gordon and their secretary Mabel Francatelli were among the five passengers on the lifeboat. They were falsely accused of bribing my great grandfather and the other crewmen to not pickup passengers in the sea. This was merely a kind gesture by Cosmo to compensate the men for lost wages as opposed to the awful lie that it was a bribe.
I find it hard to believe that they were in high enough spirits to pay crew members for lost wages during a sinking ship in the middle of nowhere and during pure pandemonium, as it's been noted by many first class survivors that they didn't even speak to others on boats being "They didn't know them so it wouldn't have been appropriate" which shows the social atmosphere in that era between the wealthy and their standoffish attitude toward others, making the allegations seem plausible. ALTHOUGH, I DO understand that some 1st class people boarded life boats before the ship remotely started sinking and possibly didn't't even know that what was happening. I read that they were initially told "This is just for safety purposes, we Will be back on the ship for breakfast" so if they boarded very early, this is plausible... But it seems that things unfolded very quickly. Any insight there?
@@tonynorris1506 The starboard side had less passengers than the port side, especially early on. Officer Murdoch, who was in charge of the starboard side, knew he had to lower the smaller cutter lifeboat because it was impeding the larger boats that held 65, cutter one only held 40 as it was intended for emergency use in a man overboard situation(it was swung out over the side). Passengers were not comfortable boarding it at that point because they didn’t feel the ship was in danger. Officer Murdoch then ordered the seven nearby crewmen on because he knew that 12 was better than 5. Only 1 lifeboat returned to pickup passengers, this is always forgotten or omitted when people speak on this. The Duff Gordons were not bad people, they were targeted because of envy and a reprehensible press that routinely practiced yellow journalism.
@@donnix1192 thanks for clarifying. Im sure I could research this, but where did the boat return from? From steering clear of the sinking ship, or.... 🤔 Always wondered who came to the rescue, and where from (as far as taking the survivors on board) Was it a ship taking the same route, or one that came due to the SOS? I've heard that they were 300 miles from shore so I always assumed it was one in the vicinity being I wanna say it arrived maybe 3 hours after the SOS call, or something similar.
hi, I'm a nerd am ten learned about titanic at age 8 and fell in love with it thanks for your videos i have a suggestion use floating sandbox for a lot of sinking animations
Titanic was really the 9/11 and Pearl Harbor of that era. For the people who experienced and survived it, you can place yourself inside one of the Trade Center towers as it happened and imagine those survivors. We had TV and the 1940s world had radio to see and hear everything in real time which of course the world had neither in 1912. But it was that great of a disaster for America and England. So I think it’s actually easy for us to understand the trauma the Titanic survivors (and those who perished) experienced. Unless you’re too young to remember 9/11.
I was doing some genealogy in the mid 90's and found a namesake on the Titanic, and went the Greenwich exhibition in 1995. He died age 19 from 2nd class and his body was recovered to his Cornwall home. With only 200 of us worldwide and many of those being my known relatives, we still wonder if or how he is related to us.
It's an interesting topic. Good to keep in mind that in the mid-90s we still had a fair number of WW1 vets still alive and tons of WW2 vets. Movies covering those events from several angles and taking every tone possible from tragedy to action to comedy have been around in blockbuster form for decades. I know my dad's dad, a tailgunner in the pacific theater who lost a lot of friends, refused to let his kids watch MacKale's Navy when he was in the house but not sure how he'd have responded to a more serious approach. Probably wouldn't be interested but I'm sure a lot of those guys felt differently. Or how about all the big action Vietnam movies that came out in the 70s-80s? Cameron was extremely respectful in his coverage and given the time passed, I could see some survivors appreciating it if they'd had the chance to see it. Cool video topic.
i remember hearing the name elanor used on the movie titanic. out of all respect... she was only a year and a half i dont think she would remember the ship wreck well.
I know it's a video made 2 years ago, but I really started to think about if I watched the movie if I was a survivor... and given that I was probably too little to remember the event during it, I will, out of curiosity, because James Cameron movie really captured a lot of details and emotions of the tragedy, with modern special effects... I think while knowing it's a movie and not everything is 100% exactly the same, there would be something fascinating in seeing realistic recreation of event that definied my life, but I do not remember myself.
Many survivors then had to go through two world wars, crimped in the middle by the worst economic depression. Then the era that followed. Strong people. Truly unsinkable in spirit. ❤❤❤
I was terrified beyond all else by the titanic when I was little. I don’t know why but it was like I had a connection to it…I’ve worked past my fear now, but I never saw the movie until just the other day. My first thought was that I don’t think I would have wanted to go look at the wreckage like Rose does, it would have recalled too much trauma. Like your one viewer said, though, I’m not a survivor so it’s hard to say how I’d actually feel, but it makes sense to me why they wouldn’t have wanted to see the film.
Put it this way. If members of your family were killed and died a horrible death would you want to watch a movie about it? We are interested in titanic as history but if it was a real life experience it’s a very different story
On a related note: there is a pretty cool picture of Joseph Boxhall (Titanic's 4th officer) in a cinema, watching A Night To Remember. He actually worked as an advisor on the film.
Didn’t know Michel Navratil was still around when the movie came out!! Recently watched Historic Travel’s video about him and his brother’s story being kidnapped by their own dad
They said the worst part of being in the life boats is hearing the screams slowly become silent
Oh wow that's so so sad.
That’s just horrible
I imagine that so sad damn😢
Must have been horrific knowing as the screams were stopping, people's lives being taken away.
This is a different tragedy, but in 2003 a club caught on fire. There's footage of the burning building and as the minutes tick away, you slowly hear the screaming stop. It's horrific to watch.
For Titanic survivors not wanting to watch the movie, I can’t blame them. Must have been so scary.
And I can see that being very traumatic for them
My mother never watched it. My father was a sailor so she was too creped out to watch such a disaster
With how young these last survivors were at the time it was probably more about how the family was impacted by the event then them actually remembering the events first hand. Or it could be that for those who were toddler age it was so traumatic it sticks out of early memory
Its quite understandable that the Titanic survivers do not want to watch the movie. They lost atleast one member of their family in a tragical way due to this ship. The impact it played upon their lives is priceless. Out of the two who watched the movie, one had all her family members survived. So the impact on her is minor compared to others. And ethe other person (Titanic orphan), who watched the movie maybe the only one recovered the trauma to such an extent All others have non healing wounds in their heats. Even some says they see the same nightmare again and again Poor souls. Hope they are all resting in peace now.
They probably had survivor guilt
I think *part* of the reason the film had such an impact on us back in 1997 is because we were still connected to that era. The survivors you mentioned were still alive, as were plenty of other elderly people who were alive in 1912. We were still connected to that era through them so the film felt different for us. Now, that connection is lost and to so many in the newer generation, it looks like just another historic event of the past that's too far removed to have that sense of connection. Sorry, that was beside the point but I wanted to share the thought. ☺
Yeah I think you’re right. It’s like, that could have been your great-great-grandparents on that ship. Now that it’s been well over 100 years, it’s a little different. Like it’s just another one of the crazy, life changing events of the early 1900’s; lumped with WWI and WWII, etc.
And unfortunately it’s happening with 9/11 as well
@@akidim13 Painfully true
@@akidim13 dam u are right s.m.h
@@akidim13 yep because I’m 20 years old and was born after 9/11
Eva Hart was 6 or 7 years old when she was on the Titanic and sadly she passed just before Titanic came out in 1997. I'm sure she would have watched it because she was heavily into it and always did interviews about it. She's the only one that's consistent with the same story ever since originally being interviewed.
Yes that's true. She died in 1996 and I always wondered what she would have thought of that movie if she was alive to see it.
@@ericaespinosa4030 Eva was so genuine she made you feel like you were actually there... Titanic is my favorite movie, never get tired of watching it!
Always wondered if Eva Hart ever had any children?
She didn’t. If you watch her interview she says she can’t even look at pictures of the titanic as it’s to traumatising. If she won’t look at a picture I doubt she would watch the movie.
@@lucygilbertson3746 Well, there's a photo/ interview of her holding up a picture of the Titanic and smiling so she did look at pictures of the Titanic!
@@lucygilbertson3746 She watched the " Night to Remember ".
Reminds me of when many D-Day veterans went to see Saving Private Ryan. It was so realistic and traumatic they actually set up a hotline for ptsd stricken vets who watched the movie. My Uncle was also friends with a D-Day vet who went and saw the movie.. he said it was like he was there on that Beach all over again.
I read countless vets didn't even last five minutes before they walked out of theaters.
Exactly the other closest thing that I was thinking with a similar situation, and yes I heard it was a really rough experience for the vets to experience.
My father was a D-Day veteran, and the Battle of the Bulge. He went to see Saving Private Ryan. He thought it was a good movie, but nothing like what he experienced. The inaccuracies of the battle scenes annoyed him.
@@Mrraugutin tears too
As someone who witnessed a traumatic death firsthand, if someone were to make a movie about what I experienced, I wouldn't have watched it. I don't want to relive those moments and I also wouldn't want to see an outsider's interpretation of what happened.
Exactly
Let me tell ya, I’m a combat vet. I watch combat movies about the battles I fought in in Iraq and I have only ever seen one that I didn’t tell “bullshit” at. It’s actually quite infuriating to see people take events like that and dick them up.
I would
And a dramatized/romaticized version of what happened.
You have that right - understandable but many others who were not involved can be educated as a means of prevention.
Don’t watch if it triggers you but also remember that you, nor anyone else doesn’t hold the monopoly on events that happened publicly.
There were actually people who remembered the accident watch A Night to Remember...Would be interesting to hear of everyone who watched that film and what they thought about it.
Yeah. There was a higher chance for a higher amount of survivors to watch A Night To Remember. A Night To Remember clearly has less inaccuracies than the 1997 movie that has the fictional love story. I think A Night To Remember is better( no offense )
@@wonghelen1455 A Night To Remember definitely has more details about the ship, but honestly for a Hollywood movie, James Cameron did a really good job capturing the true details of the ship. Like I can't think of any inaccuracies the 1997 movie even had. It was really well done.
@@tmm4195 yeah, and without putting in the real actions of a real hero named Molly brown. A Night To Remember got it right by putting in the important detail of Margaret Brown ( Before nicknamed "Molly" after her death) of her threatening to thrown Robert Hinches ( a heartless coward) overboard when James Cameron put it the other way around!!!(Not by accident ) He was even aware of it!!!
@@wonghelen1455 Yeah Cameron stated he changed some things, but overall I think he did well at making an accurate movie about the Titanic. As far as capturing the true essence of the ship, I think Titanic did a better job than the A Night To Remember
@@tmm4195 I love the movie because of that, it captures the essence of it and makes you care. I also think it was great to center it around fictional characters, bc that way you could put them where you need to and make them interact with the right and wrong people. If you make a film about real people, there's always the chance of fucking up details that people will not be happy about. "Oh you made them interact with X person when he just held open her door once and never talked" like... this way he had more liberties WHILE also centering them around an historical event with pretty accurate overall details.
He wanted to make you care, and it's easier to care when you're focused in one person rather than a large concept of historical event.
Am reminded that Gloria Stuart, who played the modern-day Rose Dawson in the movie, was born in July 1910, and was the only cast member of the movie "Titanic" who was alive (more than 1 year old) when the actual Titanic sank. And like her character in the movie, she lived up to 100 years old (passed away in 2010).
She was just 2 when the tragedy occured. From what I can gather, she was not a Titanic Survivor.
@@ruturajshiralkar5566 OP didn't say she was a titanic survivor. OP said she was alive when it sank
I think if I were a survivor I'd watch it if I didn't actually see anyone dying and if I didn't lose anyone on the disaster myself. Otherwise I think it would be very very hard to relieve extremely traumatic memories.
Yeah, at first I thought most of those survivors when the movie came out, would have been too young to remember the actual sinking and therefore would be curious to watch it. However, those who lost a parent in the sinking would probably still be too traumatized by the event, to want to see the movie
Everyone who survived witnessed and listened to 1500 die.
You can’t have a traumatic experience without a traumatic experience😑
@@bennu547 what do you even mean? Lol
For many Americans and Canadians the Titanic story resonated because their family members- grandparents and great grandparents had emigrated to North America by steam ship across the Atlantic from Europe. They still had strong family connections to that period of history with the stories still fresh and with the final handful of elders who experienced the journey still living. The story for the Titanic represents one of the very first modern disaster stories to hit the headlines and have a major world wide impact through newspaper media. The Hindenburg disaster was the first to be captured on film. The Kennedy Assassination, 9/11, Princess Diana's death, the Boxing Day Tsunami and of course the Japanese Tsunami have all since had a similar world wide impact.
Princess Diana and President Kennedy incidents are only four individuals put together. Quit comparing it to 9/11.
What's interesting about Titanic is that so many people are connected to it one way or another. We have a family story that my grandpa with his parents and 2 brothers had gone to Belgium (where great grandma and grandpa were originally from) to pickup their belongings that were supposed to have been shipped to America on Titanic's return trip. I don't know when they left but Ellis island records have them returning to Ellis island in June 1912 on the Lapland which is the ship that took Titanic's surviving crew home after the u.s. inquiry.
Don’t forget Krakatoa! That eruption was reported via telegraph, so every newspaper in Europe and America carried stories about it as the story was ongoing.
So what are the Irish then? Nothing? They were escaping a famine. Still weird non Europeans care about Diana.
Do you think it is felt any less by British and Irish families who lost their loved ones in the disaster ?
Besides the Hindenburg crash , another early event that few are aware was filmed was the sinking of Bismarck ; a young Ludovic Kennedy , later to become a famous journalist and broadcaster , had the only cine camera in the task force , and filmed the chase on his 16mm camera . This is mentioned in Ballard's book 'Discovering The Bismarck' . I don't know what became of the film , it may be in Royal Navy Archives .
The two who watched Cameron's Titanic were babies/toddlers and so don't personally remember the tragedy. Of course, knowing their father died would be distressing to watch. But those who were old enough to remember, then watched 1958 ANTR ....wow
Yeah…..
Michel Navratil was almost 4, around the same time my son is now. Kids do remember stuff from this age, especially strong memories. I do have a personal memory from such age, a memory of traveling to the Berlin wall with my parents right after it fell, being allowed to hit it with a piece of concrete... I wondered if that was an actual memory or just my imagination from when my parents told me, but then years later I saw myself on a photo and yes, the memory was quite correct, including the angle I was standing at and the vegetation around it.
Also, interesting fact - Navratil's father was from Slovakia, in Slovak "Navratil" means "the returned one".
Navratil actually did have memories of the sinking and he talked about them in interviews
I know quite a few survivors watched the 1958 movie A Night to Remember. Of course more of them were alive then. But many of them said they were amazed by the accuracy of how the disaster unfolded.
The only difference being the titanic didn’t split in two in A Night to Remember. Many didn’t believe that happened despite the survivors saying it did.
@@jandm4ever716 True
@@jandm4ever716 True, but it was a really dark night once the lights on the ship went out. I think the survivors were split 50/50 as to whether or not the ship broke in two. That wasn't confirmed until 1985 when the wreck was discovered. The writer and director of the 1958 movie did well with the knowledge available at that time.
@@jandm4ever716 A Night To Remember is still by far the better film .
@@derekheeps1244😅😅😅😅
It's an interesting topic to consider, because in 1997, the remaining survivors of the Titanic were so young during the tragedy, some too young to recollect anything about it. Yet they still lost loved ones.
I can't even begin to imagine the emotional burden they carried.
It’s infuriating to know how much more space was left on those life boats. So many perished needlessly. So many more legacies cut short by incompetence.
Yeah I have no idea why Lightoller is looked upon rather favorably as far as I can tell… he’s the one that enforced “women and children *only*” (not first, *only*). He’s the one responsible for releasing those empty lifeboats.
Oh by the why after the ship went down he floated to the surface, climbed into a lifeboat, and rowed away
I recommend history hit’s video “expert answers titanic questions” because it puts a lot into perspective. there were a lot of reasons life boats weren’t full and it wasn’t incompetence.
for one, they thought they would have much less time until she sank (they expected 1.5 hours but got 2.5), and worried they wouldn’t have time. they opted for 18 partially empty life boats than, say, 12 full life boats. especially since dispatched life boats could still be filled from the water, but boats that got left behind and sank with the ship before they could be filled could do nothing.
even though they ended up having an hour more time than they thought, they still didn’t have enough to dispatch all the lifeboats! two went down with her.
Amen less than half the life boats needed and some of those 1/2 full
The one story that would make the most compelling drama, was that of the lone Japanese passenger: Masabumi Hosono, who boarded lifeboat 10 because he feared leaving his wife(at home with their children) a widow. Afterwards his act was made to be one of cowardice by his homeland; dishonorable on a national level. The disgrace continued even after his death in 1939(described as peacefully in his sleep).
You cannot call anyone a Coward in a situation like that . Fear and panic takes over . All you can do is call People Heroes who decided to not get in a boat but nobody was a Coward
Yes, I recall reading there were calls in Japan for him to commit seppuku, ritual suicide, to atone for his "shame".
@@CockneyEastwoodyou can if your traditional Japanese.
Weird to see how different and opposite the Japanese were. Doing one of arguably the most heroic thoughtful things for your family is viewed as one of the worst things you could’ve done by your fellow countrymen…
@@NefariousEvildoerJapan has done a lot of beyond shameful things in the past that they have yet to atone for or even acknowledge. Very hypocritical and cruel that they were calling for this man to commit su*cide out of some stupid sense of honor that they don’t have in the first place
When I went to see Pearl Harbor in theaters, there were 5 vets there watching it also that were at Pearl Harbor when it was attacked. They were balling after. They caused half the lobby to cry after the movie.
that was also another incredibly beautiful movie made
I don't blame them, it was traumatizing for them.
A similar feeling would be if you lost family members during 9/11 and then were asked to watch movies or documentaries based on those events. If you lived those events too personally, there's not anything such movies or films can help with on an emotional level, it's only reliving a horror you don't want to experience again.
I can’t even watch the 9/11 dramas and I only lived it secondhand from the media, and from friends living and working downtown during the attacks
Personally, I find the idea of a 9/11 movie unnecessary and cringe. It doesn’t help that I’ve heard it described as bad. Probably similar to how people view films based on tragedies they lived through
It would also feel very much like people are (very literally) capitalising on the deaths and horror of it all
I genuinely do believe that James Cameron wanted to do his best in re creating the tragedy as well as being very interested in the subject but it would never have been made if the studios didn't think it would be a success
The only reason it was made was to make money...
I'm not sure how I would feel sitting in a group of people so emotionally removed from the situation looking for entertainment from something designed to only make money...
@@peacefulmaroon I don't consider myself a 9/11 survivor as I wasn't in any of the buildings, but I was close to the World trade center that day. Close enough to hear the first plane hit, and even closer to witness the 2nd one as we had walked closer to see what had happened. I was supposed to be in school that day, but my mom had paperwork to drop off at a building nearby, and she asked if I wanted to take the day off from school to take the train into the city with her. So of course i said yes. After the 2nd plane hit, it rained glass and debris near us and I remember seeing a man who got hit with debris having convulsions on the floor. My mom and I took refuge in a coffee shop, and when the tower collapsed, the whole shop turned pitch black as the power went out and the windows and doors were covered in soot. I literally thought the world was ending, and we later walked for hours looking for a way home as there was no trains in service anymore. Worst day of my life, left me with severe panic attacks and PTSD. I could not watch the news footage or anything for years, it wasn't till 2017 that I tried watching some documentaries and clips on UA-cam but couldn't. I know there's been a few movies about it but obviously I'd never watch them. Personally if I was a Titanic survivor I'd be upset that the 97 version turned it into a love story. Could not imagine a 9/11 film having a love story subplot.
I do recall that the widow of the German passenger depicted in United 93 saw that movie, and was very unhappy with how her husband was portrayed.
My Nan was born in 1923, 11 years after Titanic sank. She grew up in a time when it was still fresh in the minds of those around her. In 1997, she refused to watch Titanic saying it was disrespectful. Even now at 100-years-old, I can't convince her to watch it. 🙁
wow i didn't know that any of the survivors got to watch the film its pretty cool to know that now
yeah
The 1997 version was not the first movie
@@Liitebulb was the better movie
Thank you for coming online as part of those interested in RMS Titanic and for bringing a new vibrancy and a new generation with you! This was an interesting summary of survivors who were alive at the time of the James Cameron film in 1997. As a lifelong Titanic enthusiast, and a native Californian, living on the outskirts of Southampton, her story and that of all the other transatlantic liners resonates very strongly. Being in the Southampton vicinity after having a more detached understanding of Titanic for many years prior, it has opened a new universe, an epiphany really, regarding those who built her, her passengers across the three classes, and especially on the crew, who really got the short end of the stick. Having a chat with locals in the odd bookstore, Co-op or other venue, it's interesting to hear once in a while how many of them have relatives, not just related to Titanic, who served aboard the hundreds of ships sailing out of Southampton, during peacetime and war, who are part of the social fabric of the Golden Age of Transatlantic Travel.
My mother knew a woman in an Alabama nursing home that was a baby on the Titanic. She only remembered what her mother had told her about the event.
So she _remembered_ sweet F.A. but she never let it stop her from being a money grubbing tart?
@@JulieWallis1963 That's a bit harsh considering you never knew this woman personally.
@JulieWallis1963 Where did that come from?
@JulieWallis1963 are you okay? 😳
@@UtopiaBlue68 I have reported that comment as being completely out of order and highly offensive .
I was a senior in high school, and this came out and of course, I couldn’t wait to go see it in the theaters. But I never gave a thought to the actual real survivors of the titanic. Thanks for putting this video up here. I stumbled across it quite by accident.
And yes, like you said this Spond, my interest in the titanic.
Great video, as always, but this one have an emotional connection between Titanic and some survivors, which is something more than facts and data, which makes Titanic a living memory inside the minds of life survivors.
Michel's reaction is kinda the only one that matters. He's the only one that was old enough at the time to remember the experience.
What you said is pretty disrespectful. You can still have trauma about something even if you don't remember it. The thought of being on a boat that killed so many people, a boat that took their own family members life, and the trauma that would cause their other family. It's a lot and even if you don't remember it happening it can still be traumatic.
Aw yeah! I remember hearing about Millvina’s death when I was finishing middle school in 2008-2009. Continued rest in peace to her and all those who died that night and the other survivors!
Sinkings are traumatic. Not too long ago there was this channel that reunited a family with a boat that had sunk in Lake Powell 30 years ago. The guys on this channel found this boat there that was no longer underwater due to drought and somehow managed to get it running and looking really nice. And they managed to track down the original owners.
Great story, right? Invite them to show up and surprise them with the keys to their boat which they could take out on the same Lake again. I know the expected reaction in my mind was, wow, you guys did such an amazing job, thank you this is fantastic.
Sadly, the filmed event was a reinventation to relive the trauma, especially for the father. Not exactly on the same scale of asking a Titanic Survivor to accept a ticket to take a trip on a replica boat, but the guy was visibly shaken. Later in the episode the creators essentially handed he guy the keys, and had probably initially been thinking that the guy would be happy and jump at the chance to Captain his old boat again. He wanted no part of that first trip and chose to remain on shore
instead.
ua-cam.com/video/5B-gy-pwroU/v-deo.html (He relives the sinking experience starting somewhere around the 15-minute mark)
If I'm part of an experience like that I hope I could desensitize myself enough to live with it, but I completely understand why some people would not want to have anything to do with that kind of trauma ever again, whether it's connected with the loss of hundreds of lives about a hundred years ago or experiencing your dream boat needlessly go down while you watch plenty of other boats speed by you unwilling to stop or help.
With the new technology to make movies in 1997, I think it would have been more traumatic for any survivor to see that night depicted on the big screen. So many of them saw A Night to Remember and many of them liked it for its accuracy. I think they would have been blown away by Cameron's Titanic
If I was old enough to remember the disaster, I probably wouldn't watch it because of the horrible memories it would inevitably bring up. But If I had been a baby or toddler, having no clear memories of the sinking, I'd probably be curious and try to watch. But i definitely would not have wanted to watch it in a public setting with other people present. I'd want to see it in the privacy of my own home, possibly with close friends or family there for support.
I'd be curious to know (probably impossible now) how many survivors watched the 1950's "Night To Remember" which is largely what Cameron based his movie from.
Eva Hart did she was six or seven when the Titanic sank and vividly remembers everything and her story was always consistent, never changed in every interview she did.
Fourth Officer Joseph Boxhall was not only a survivor , but a technical advisor to William McQuitty in the making of ANTR , so he would certainly have seen it . Even more would have seen the Hollywood movie 'Titanic' of 1953 , being made five years earlier , but alas Charles Lightoller , the other surviving senior officer , died in 1952 , the year before that movie came out .
I had family on the Titanic, they were first class and they survived. I was in Kindergarten when the movie came out. I watched it later on and was like wow, my family was on that ship. If I were a passenger and survivor I would probably watch it.
Oh wow who were they?
@@YgorCortes, Cavendish.
@@SailorNeptune1991 that's so interesting... When did you find out about them? Has it affected your life in any way? Do your family share stories about them or anything in this sense?
@@YgorCortes, I actually worded that wrong. My great great grandmother was the only survivor. But I found out from family, mainly my grandparents and cousins. Then I did my ancestry DNA test and seen the records which I already knew about. It has sparked some interesting conversations. I also have my great great grandparents pearl necklace and pocket watch that was on the Titanic that she got before she boarded the life boat.
My great grandfather was a crewman on Titanic, Albert Horswill. He survived the wreck on the lifeboat with the Duff Gordons. He passed before I was born. My dad told me that Albert did not speak of the sinking. Growing up we had a painting of the ship that belonged to my great grandfather that a friend painted for him. He testified at the British Inquiry into the disaster that the ship broke apart. I’m fortunate he survived, wouldn’t be here if he hadn’t.
I belong to the Norfolk titanic society, and I met Milvina Dean once and she was a exceptionally lively lady that is that perfect grandma.
She was not happy films were made about it or making money off it as it was very traumatic for her mother who told her from beginning to the end.
It's as if I was there the way Milvina was telling the story.
It was emotional and I still think what she told us years later.
Trust me it's not nice.
As she said, that wreck is her father's and other people's graves, all well they are gone but it's where they are, their spirit is.
She believes like a sunken warship it should be a grave not a tourist attraction.
More trauma is formed when parents don't speak about it or the more you wait to tell them the more trauma it makes.
My gg grandmother was a titanic survivor she was 14 yrs old when the titanic went down so was my ggg grandmother 1st class. Man I heard her story back when I was in 6th grade she was already near 100 yrs old then. And man just thinking about it makes my hair stand up the movie gets part of it. But from what she said the it was loud you could hear the ship breaking and what sounded like bombs going off like ww2 she said. And she said the ship did seem to break in half and she did get to see the wreck site on video. Which was net and she started crying I remember my grandfather having ti turn it off because the wreck gave her a form of ptsd
is interesting and totally makes sense. Movies have to play it down so we can hear the actors. We overlook or downplay the senses that don't show up well in movies.
You should tell the Titanic Historical Society all about that
I just felt attachment to this movie even I watched it in 2022... I literally cried at end when Jack died because of cold
He was a young traveler that had no purpose and found his purpose in saving Rose & showing her that she had a fulfilling life to live 😢
Jack's death indicates those who died in titanic that are mostly men and 3rd class. Rose's survival indicates the women in titanic who r saved in lifeboats and they lived a long traumatic life being a widow losing their husbands in titanic.
Jack could have fitted on that door with Rose 😢
@@Vikki_G_it would have toppled over
I was always interested in Titanic, beginning around the time I was 5-6, and watched so many documentaries and read so many books, and stumbled across the James Cameron film when I was maybe 6-7. I thought at first this was real, like a real footage of the Titanic disaster.
As much as I find it important to preserve the artefacts recovered from the wreck, the stories of the survivors to be told and the fascination of the event, extremely important, I also find it extremely important to respect the wreck and the area as a graveyard. Please let the victims rest there in peace🙏🏻❤️✡️✝️☪️
A lot of these survivors were so young that they don't even remember the sinking. So I wonder why it affected them so bad. Maybe family trauma passed on to them?
You can still have trauma about something even if you don't remember it. The thought of being on a boat that killed so many people, a boat that took their own family members life, and the trauma that would cause their other family. It's a lot and even if you don't remember it happening it can still be traumatic.
childhood trauma is a thing
That and suppressed memories. The events are still there in their minds. Like say your mother died when you're 2 and years later, you hear her voice on a recording, it would likely feel familiar and make you sad. Like that, the trauma can still linger in many ways. Water freaking them out, or the cold terrifying them. The idea of being on a boat filling them with horror. If they weren't told about this, they wouldn't know why they feel that way, but they still could feel that way. Hell, even if you were older when something happens, your mind can still block those memories and you don't remember, but you still suffer the effects of it. I know someone who has no memory of being assaulted at a young age, but being held down makes her go into a wild panic. Trauma doesn't go away just because you don't remember it. Trauma literally changes the brain. So even if you can't remember, the brain has still been changed and the effects are still going to be there, even if you can't remember why.
i have heard that when we experience a traumatic event, even when we are very young, our brains tend to remember that moment more vividly, i am sure you can look up the science behind it
it's like war. When people lose family members in a war, they didn't experience the event itself, but it will always stick with them as what killed their father. And that's what happened here.
Milvina Dean was 9 weeks so had zero recollection, and yet she lost the father she never knew on that ship
The thing though about babies is... they have zero recollection of trauma.
Imagine what we would all be like remembering our own births. Or experiencing an utterly foreign reality for the first time. Or, just going from oblivion to cognizance would be a memory that would drive you insane.
The upshot is, the survivors trauma at the time of the release was acquired long after the event of the sinking, and created explicitly by subjective, second hand stories.
Babies does have memory of theirs trauma. i remember my birth and the pain i endured in that moment because it has been a difficult birth.
What you said is pretty disrespectful. You can still have trauma about something even if you don't remember it. The thought of being on a boat that killed so many people, a boat that took their own family members life, and the trauma that would cause their other family. It's a lot and even if you don't remember it happening it can still be traumatic.
I remember things from as far back as 2-3 years old
@@brumeargenteethat's absolute bogus, spurred on by later perceptions. The human brain is not advanced or developed enough to form a memory at that age. There is also no biological or evolutionary reason for it.
Humans can retain memories from before they know how to walk properly.
It's my belief that humans are capable of storing memories the second their able to "observe" and make decisions sparked by a sense of curiosity.. not well reflected or smart decisions by any means, but a decision none the less.
This also would make the most sense logically because this an evidence of a primitive bare-mminimum conscience, and experiences/observations being recollected at older ages is plausible (especially when the memory is regularly revisited and being reminded of it).
But there is no way you objectively have any actual recollection of being a newborn, a stage of existance where every function and operation is purely reactionary and instinctive, and even less functioning then that of most animals (human babies are the most useless organism in the animal kingdom).
That is about as believable as those who claim they remember their "past lives".
@@juliantotriwijaya9208 I wrote this 10 months Ago. I barely even remember this subject soooo Sorry I guess?
Some trauma survivors use the media (in this case, the movies) as a therapeutic way to confront their own emotions
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Thank you! 🙏🏼
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I appreciate how you answered the question in the title.
When Titanic came out, I was already a Leo fan and an avid Titanic reader(?) .. Seeing the film in theater 4x made me ever the more interested in the actual stories.. Oh to have spoken with the older survivors., not the babies or toddlers of the tragedy- bless them all.
I can't imagine looking at the news about the tragedy of something like the Titanic and seeing my babies as orphans. Wow.
I would imagine watching the 1997 version would be far more difficult for the survivors. I mean, it's one thing to see the night recreated in vivid accurate detail, but I think it's something else entirely for them to see actual footage of the wreck itself at the bottom of the ocean. That would be rough. If I was a survivor, and I knew before hand that they had that footage in the movie, I probably wouldnt watch it either. I wouldnt want to see what it looks like sitting on the ocean floor.
I feel like i would be so curious to watch the movie because I’d want to know how accurate the movie was to the real disaster
I think I'd agree with Asher H if I'd been a Titanic survivor, though I'm not really sure if I would have ever healed emotionally from the disaster. Would depend whether I was one of the survivors who got off on a lifeboat or one of the few survivors who was still on Titanic as she went down and then rescued from the water.
I’ve been doing a lot of research on the titanic and this guy is awesome❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I wouldn’t be able to sit through a 9/11 movie-and I wasn’t even on site. I watched it unfold like most of the rest of us (those of us old enough, oh gosh) on television. I think for the very young survivors of Titanic I’m sure it’s a little different, a way to reconnect with an experience they might not quite remember.
I saw the movie United 93 and it's one I've never had a desire to see again, but glad for the experience of seeing it once. I also saw Schindler's List and wouldn't want to see it a second time either. You don't have to have actually lived through the moments depicted for it to have a profound effect on you.
I’m so glad this video popped up as a suggestion! I’ve been a big Titanic buff as long as I can remember, well before the movie came out.
I honestly would not wanna see the movie if I was a Titanic survivor, I wouldn't want to be reminded of all of those terrible memories and seeing all those drowning and hearing those screams and that lady was right about going to the Titanic wreck it is kinda like disrespecting those people's grave
This disaster was more terrifying than we could imagine
the Kidnapped French Orphans is the craziest story from the Titanic
That's the "Titanic waifs" one of them, Michel, was the last male survivor to die (January 30 2001)
1:43 Because she had a nightmare about the 1958 film about Titanic
Imagine people in the 30s to 50s meeting the survivors when they were still pretty much alive?😳
That's not that crazy the 30s and 50s were a long time ago as well
@@compteprivefr What would be the equivalent of than in our time if let's say the Titanic just sink just 30 years ago? So it probably happened in the 90s so the survivors will be the equivalent of people from the 90s that we're interacting today?
@@robertbench5187the equivalent would be 9-11.
@@Harcorwrestler Are there any survivors from the 9-1-1 tragedy?
@@robertbench5187not on the planes, but people when the planes hit the towers evacuated, right? Especially in the second tower
Wow it must of been traumatic to watch after it actually happened to them
They was to small to remember anything when ship was sinking
The story of the Titanic will live on forever.
Atleast western society learned from the tragedy and implemented better safety precautions on board new ships that where made in the future..Its just sad that there are countless other tragedies like the Titanic that went un noticed by the public and the casualties where forgotten completely.
NONE of these survivors would have had ANY memory of Titanic, so their reactions are essentially that of an old person watching an intense drama. One tends to be increasingly emotional with age so essentially their reactions were to the thought of it having happened to them. And who wouldn't react like that?
I can see the younger survivors going to see this movie, because they probably don't have memories of the event. I can't remember anything before the age of 5. As for the elderly who could remember, why would they go see this movie? They lived it and have lived with it since then.
As for me, I'm pretty sure my answer would have been no if I was old enough to remember.
Fun fact, apparently a survivor of the Titanic was part of a movie in the 1910s about the event, where he played a survivor (minor role). Sadly, the footage had been lost and the movie was never released.
When the movie Battle of Britain was released in 1968 I asked my mother , who lived in London during the war, if she would like to see it. She shrugged and smiled and said ‘no thanks son, I saw the real thing’.
I understand where not wanting to watch the movies about the ship and her voyagers makes sense. It's an event that hits hard and not wanting to remember or even think about what happened to loved ones who passed away on her would be hard. While I do think we should honor her memory and make sure we pass along the story she told, I also understand that digging into her wreck is like digging into someone's grave. As much as I would love for more pieces of her wreck to be lifted, I also think we should let her pieces lay where they are.
Basically if I was in the same position and unless I completely moved on, I wouldn't want to watch it as well. To relieve those past events would be so disheartening and could bring up new traumas.
I bet they are very grateful that they don’t remember any of the details. Their trauma is second hand in a way and that’s a weird thing to live with.
I wasn't aware any survivors watched James Cameron's movie, so this is interesting to learn. I recently uploaded a video where I take a brief tour of the ship from the zombie mode in "Black Ops 4". It actually turned out okay considering what I was having to work with. I missed a few areas but overall I got a decent amount of locations covered. Just something I decided to do as I'm also a big fan of all things Titanic. Hopefully someone will like it. Nice & informative discussion. :)
1997 movie Titanic is so much more than entertainment. It is a tribute. It is historical in its own right, as it ushered in so much awareness of a tragic event that might otherwise ...have been forgotten as succeeding generations passed. But it will be forever part of common knowledge. Such tragedy was gut-wrenchingly horrible, but some hard lessons resulted.
Interestingly, they made a movie of Titanic right after it happened (in 1912), and Titanic survivor Dorothy Gibson actually acted in it, even wearing the same clothes she had worn on that night!
And people called her a money seeking shallow Person. Best wait until a year to make a tragic topic a movie!
It was a play
it was a 10 minute silent film.
And the actresss quit acting afterwards because she was so traumatized making that movie so soon after it happened she had a mental breakdown.
She literally landed in New York and immediately her production studio had her to write a script about the titanic tragedy in about less than a week. And if I recall correctly, the film was written, filmed, edited and released theatrically within like three weeks (maybe it was three months either way that’s entirely way too soon) of its inception.
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@@thegoodsisjas no definitely a movie, released in theaters. No copy still exists, and it was likely shot like a play (as many movies were back then) but it was still a movie
@@Yetaxa I read recently the original and/or only copy burned in a fire.
I think this movie would be too traumatic to watch for them! People who clicked "yes" have never had PTSD. My cousin wrote a book with my experience in it. I'm not reading that book 😑
Please, PLEASE make a video on the Titanic orphans. I read a book by Celia Imrie last month based on the young life of the children's mother and it was an absolutely incredible book, as is the story. I'd love to see you discuss it
What’s the name of the book?
@@ashleyandro889 orphans of the storm
@@poppystewart9142 Ty!!
Thank you 📖
Historic Travels has a video about them
You have a new subscriber! And I'm Titanicer too!
would be the exact same argument if a 911 survivor watched a movie about 911 and twin towers collapsing even though its been years and years since the event to the survivor its still going to be fresh just like it happened yesterday its no way to ever get over a traumatic experience like that and watching a movie about it would be enough to make them literally go insane
For the survivor that didn’t want to watch the movie, I agree completely because imagine how scary and traumatic it would have been.
If I were to survive that kind of massive tragedy, I wouldn’t want to watch the movie either. I wouldn’t want it to be some kind of bastardization of the real horrific experience that claimed so many lives….. At the very least I’d give it a few years to brace myself for some really painful memories.
I think it is worth noting that none of these survivors would have remembered being on the Titanic. They were too young.
I fully support recovering as many artifacts as possible, it’s all going to disintegrate into nothing anyways, no bodies remain down there, spiritually they have moved on. This way, many new generations can go and learn about this historical event. That’s a much better way to honour those lost and the families because nobody will ever forget them and the fact we want these artifacts raised shows we never want to.
in terms of A Night To Remember: the whole film is on youtube for anyone that is interested. It's quite telling to see how much was lifted from it and put into Titanic 1997!
There was an actor who played in both movies i believe?
@@westnblu You may be thinking about the SOS Titanic miniseries, the guy who places Spicer Lovejoy, Cal's valet in Titanic 97, also plays real second class passenger Lawrence Beesley, in SOS Titanic.
I think that might be the late David Warner.
@@westnblu the British actor Bernard Fox played a role in both movies. He was Lookout Frederick Fleet, in A Night to Remember also played Colonel Gracie in James Cameron's Titanic. If you ever watched Hogans's Heroes, he played Colonel Crittendon.
@@GeoGroverI remember him more as Dr Bombay in Bewitched. I don't know he was in both films.
I don’t normally say this, but that was a great video, thank you for making it.
4:33 i went to a titanic museum in Melbourne Australia and they gave us these boarding passes and mine was michel navratil
And imagine... 1912 you get Titanic and just 27 years later WWII.
2 years later, World War I.
What a wonderful man. How I miss this man! I remember being a child without a dad and all I had in my head what the wish that this was my dad. Whenever I was down I put a movie with him in it just for comfort.
I think they were all invited to the premiere.
Millvina was the last survivor but she was also the youngest passenger at 2 months
Great video raf it’s cool that 2 survivors saw the movie
Elanor was a toddler. if she was 87 in 1998 she was 1 or 2 in 1912. That’s crazy if she remembers that at such a young age!
now my question is have the survivors seen "A night to remember. " there would be alot more survivors in 58.
I have 3 coincidences in my life
1 was born the same day she was launched
2 my birthday is on milvina deans day of passin RIP
3 I have the same surname as one of the lookouts
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You can not say you would have watched the movie unless you have lived the horror of that experience!
So the youngest survivor indeed outlived every single survivor. That is incredible.
Well, she was only two months old when she was on the Titanic and didn't even find out she was on it so she was 10 years old!
I mean, that's not really that unusual.
Millvina Dean, I hear her. Infant trauma hits you different. To this day, I have an deeply embedded fear of fire that comes across as odd, intense, and seemingly incurable due to a fire incident that I witnessed at 6 months old. Precognitive trauma leaves a huge hole and is a tough nut to crack. Especially as your trauma can only be told to you from others because you don't remember it, even though your body remembers it. That disconnect, lack of remembering from you only to have others fill in the blanks is unsettling to say the least.
My great grandfather Albert Horswill was a crewman aboard Titanic. He survived the wreck after Officer Murdoch ordered him and 6 other crewmen into cutter lifeboat one along with five first class passengers. Cosmo and Lucy Duff Gordon and their secretary Mabel Francatelli were among the five passengers on the lifeboat. They were falsely accused of bribing my great grandfather and the other crewmen to not pickup passengers in the sea. This was merely a kind gesture by Cosmo to compensate the men for lost wages as opposed to the awful lie that it was a bribe.
Yep it was called the millionaire lifeboat
@@chelsea_Xxo There was no bribe and the press was reprehensible for how they slandered the Duff Gordons, who were great people.
I find it hard to believe that they were in high enough spirits to pay crew members for lost wages during a sinking ship in the middle of nowhere and during pure pandemonium, as it's been noted by many first class survivors that they didn't even speak to others on boats being "They didn't know them so it wouldn't have been appropriate" which shows the social atmosphere in that era between the wealthy and their standoffish attitude toward others, making the allegations seem plausible.
ALTHOUGH,
I DO understand that some 1st class people boarded life boats before the ship remotely started sinking and possibly didn't't even know that what was happening.
I read that they were initially told "This is just for safety purposes, we Will be back on the ship for breakfast" so if they boarded very early, this is plausible... But it seems that things unfolded very quickly.
Any insight there?
@@tonynorris1506 The starboard side had less passengers than the port side, especially early on. Officer Murdoch, who was in charge of the starboard side, knew he had to lower the smaller cutter lifeboat because it was impeding the larger boats that held 65, cutter one only held 40 as it was intended for emergency use in a man overboard situation(it was swung out over the side). Passengers were not comfortable boarding it at that point because they didn’t feel the ship was in danger. Officer Murdoch then ordered the seven nearby crewmen on because he knew that 12 was better than 5. Only 1 lifeboat returned to pickup passengers, this is always forgotten or omitted when people speak on this. The Duff Gordons were not bad people, they were targeted because of envy and a reprehensible press that routinely practiced yellow journalism.
@@donnix1192 thanks for clarifying.
Im sure I could research this, but where did the boat return from?
From steering clear of the sinking ship, or.... 🤔
Always wondered who came to the rescue, and where from (as far as taking the survivors on board)
Was it a ship taking the same route, or one that came due to the SOS?
I've heard that they were 300 miles from shore so I always assumed it was one in the vicinity being I wanna say it arrived maybe 3 hours after the SOS call, or something similar.
hi, I'm a nerd am ten learned about titanic at age 8 and fell in love with it thanks for your videos i have a suggestion use floating sandbox for a lot of sinking animations
Titanic was really the 9/11 and Pearl Harbor of that era. For the people who experienced and survived it, you can place yourself inside one of the Trade Center towers as it happened and imagine those survivors. We had TV and the 1940s world had radio to see and hear everything in real time which of course the world had neither in 1912. But it was that great of a disaster for America and England. So I think it’s actually easy for us to understand the trauma the Titanic survivors (and those who perished) experienced. Unless you’re too young to remember 9/11.
I was doing some genealogy in the mid 90's and found a namesake on the Titanic, and went the Greenwich exhibition in 1995. He died age 19 from 2nd class and his body was recovered to his Cornwall home. With only 200 of us worldwide and many of those being my known relatives, we still wonder if or how he is related to us.
It's an interesting topic. Good to keep in mind that in the mid-90s we still had a fair number of WW1 vets still alive and tons of WW2 vets. Movies covering those events from several angles and taking every tone possible from tragedy to action to comedy have been around in blockbuster form for decades. I know my dad's dad, a tailgunner in the pacific theater who lost a lot of friends, refused to let his kids watch MacKale's Navy when he was in the house but not sure how he'd have responded to a more serious approach. Probably wouldn't be interested but I'm sure a lot of those guys felt differently. Or how about all the big action Vietnam movies that came out in the 70s-80s? Cameron was extremely respectful in his coverage and given the time passed, I could see some survivors appreciating it if they'd had the chance to see it. Cool video topic.
i remember hearing the name elanor used on the movie titanic. out of all respect... she was only a year and a half i dont think she would remember the ship wreck well.
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I know it's a video made 2 years ago, but I really started to think about if I watched the movie if I was a survivor... and given that I was probably too little to remember the event during it, I will, out of curiosity, because James Cameron movie really captured a lot of details and emotions of the tragedy, with modern special effects... I think while knowing it's a movie and not everything is 100% exactly the same, there would be something fascinating in seeing realistic recreation of event that definied my life, but I do not remember myself.
Many survivors then had to go through two world wars, crimped in the middle by the worst economic depression. Then the era that followed. Strong people. Truly unsinkable in spirit. ❤❤❤
Very interesting video !! Please do a video about how the titanic broke in half
I was terrified beyond all else by the titanic when I was little. I don’t know why but it was like I had a connection to it…I’ve worked past my fear now, but I never saw the movie until just the other day. My first thought was that I don’t think I would have wanted to go look at the wreckage like Rose does, it would have recalled too much trauma. Like your one viewer said, though, I’m not a survivor so it’s hard to say how I’d actually feel, but it makes sense to me why they wouldn’t have wanted to see the film.
Put it this way. If members of your family were killed and died a horrible death would you want to watch a movie about it? We are interested in titanic as history but if it was a real life experience it’s a very different story
On a related note: there is a pretty cool picture of Joseph Boxhall (Titanic's 4th officer) in a cinema, watching A Night To Remember. He actually worked as an advisor on the film.
Didn’t know Michel Navratil was still around when the movie came out!! Recently watched Historic Travel’s video about him and his brother’s story being kidnapped by their own dad
They were all babies when the Titanic sank so their memory of the sinking is basically equal to mine (so none)