He’s right about, when it’s right, you won’t feel it. It’s like hitting a golf ball on the screws. I so recommend anyone standing 15-20 in front of net. Grab 40 or 65 disc, just flick them into the net like you’re only trying to throw 75’ or less. Get to where this disc feels great, or you don’t feel it, then speed up a little. We all heard of skipping rocks in water, I do think that’s helpful for sure. FH was very natural to me, BH was like learning to walk again. One thing I’ve tried to visualize and help people is, think about bowling, down middle of the lane, the arm, forearm, hand, and ball are all on the line down the middle. Even in bowling the wrist will turn over after the ball is gone. Now go to FH, now you’re just going laterally. Pick your angle and go. If your doing the stacked/pistol grip, middle finger into the rim and or where rim meets plate, with the index finger, think about not letting any part of it touch the plate, just pressure on the middle finger. It’s hard, you just don’t won’t any finger pads on the plate
Another masterpiece video with gems. This has greatly helps me my forehand literally went up another 100 foot a 350’foot time lapse and 320’foot trail and 300 foot felon today. The consistency alone is a big deal for me as back hand dominant player thank you!! The Roman is nice too, I think my Texas stamp one is slightly too gummy for liking to forehand.
Watching you throw forehands and trying to figure it out is me with my backhand. Forehands are so natural to me and can fix things on the fly if something doesn’t feel right. For the past year I have refused to to throw forehands which has really hurt what I can actually do but my backhand is slowly improving
I've always been pretty good at forehand but i couldnt describe why, this guy explains it so perfectly. The "lead with the elbow" and "roll off the middle finger" are key points.
My dad does not and when he played (he no longer plays), he had a better forehand then 80% of the non pro players. My dad, he seemed to do both the forcing of hand but in more the wrist and the proper arm movement in the elbow joint. Yes, leading with the elbow is how my dad would say having a straighter but not a fully straight arm was his other tip as then you can't lead with the elbow. When he played, he also did a push putt with spin where he would do a full on traditional from the waist push putt but have high spin as well, mainly because he used either a Rubber Putter Lighting Disc or a old run Juju in supreme plastic and both he needed spin becuse discs were high glide.
I appreciate you introducing me to @Broderic channel. Love your content, your videos are reenactments of my day to day with ADHD. But... When it comes to forehands the disc has to be absolutely comfortable so my go to is a DM instinct and the DM DD2 bigger rim sits more comfortable. Congratulations on becoming a father also. Keep the content coming and still wanna see a @birdogie Jefferson collab.
I’ve seen that throwing elbow first can be an easy way to injure/strain your arm…if you don’t really have that flexibly and warm up. Started throwing elbow in line with wrist. What’s talking about where you feel loose but draw the power together at the end, flicking the wrist and rolling off your middle finger is what I felt for. My longest shot so far is 488ft with a gold plastic Ballista Pro on an Annie Flex shot
Lov the video! Gives me some thoughts to try out with an already pretty smooth forehand! Do have a video where you talk more about what you've done in the gym? Do you have examples of how not to compensate through the wrong muscles and parts of your body? I think others and I would really appreciate that!
I don't yet, will be making those as I get things figured out. I like sharing the journey, but when I plan to make more difinitive "this is what I think is right" style videos, I want to have my own form close to fully ironed out. So hopefully it'll come in time for most people's off seasons since I'm in the middle of working through it myself RN!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Fair enough haha, keep it up man! Looking forward to that video when it comes out, and excited for you to reach that point where you feel confident in it to feel that its fully ironed out.
I always seem to drop my forehand in the dip 60 70 short on 7. I have noticed when I over exaggerate my follow through, I tend to push the disc out a bit further because it's causing more motion in wrist. I have also noticed when I stay lower I have better motion through my arm during the hit. Being a big guy, my former looks horrible, but it seems to work for me.
What Broderic said about feeling it roll off your fingertips is my exact thoughts also. Just imagine trying to skip a rock across a lake or river. It’s literally the same motion as a forehand, except you aim about 30-40 feet in front of you with a disc. My favorite forehand shape is anhyzer flex with something like a discraft venom, or even my c blend pharaoh.
Yeah I don't have a great forehand by any means, but if I try to pull the disc into rotation with the fingers, it just goes into the ground every time. Have to let it come off the fingers, not cling to them. That way i get smooth flights with no wobble. Just gotta figure out the power
@@luuhax did you grow up with ball sports at all? Your issue sounds like the one I was having with off axis torque. Essentially turning the hand over through the wrist, like you do flicking the baseball or football off your hand. Turns the disc over- if you master it, it’s a pretty mean roller
@@sdreaver816 No I wouldn't say that. I can throw a ball plenty well but didn't play at all with anything heavier than a tennis ball. My issue was that i thought pulling the disc with my fingers until the last second was something good. And while it does put power on the disc, it's virtually impossible to get a clean release. So I'm happy broderic cues the disc to roll off the fingers instead of actively curling and digging the fingertips into the disc. Never reall had the off axis torque, but the power is my struggle. My friend does experience it though and we have similar backgrounds. It's a tricky movement pattern to get down.
I watched Broderic's Forehand for Idiots video where he is in your face with his teaching last week. I have been doing better this week being smooth like butter with it.
For both back hand and sidearm, look into how to get more HIP INTERNAL ROTATION. Nobody talks about this and coming from a bodybuilding background, this is something I’ve dealt with. My hips were always too tight from being smaller and lifting heavier in the gym.
My forehand has always been a work in progress. For some reason I have a very solid standstill touch forehand within ~200, but driving forehands have always been a (slowly improving) dumpster fire. What I've been working on is trying to just forget that I'm throwing a disc. I know how to throw a baseball or a football or whatever, but once I'm thinking about the fact that it's now a disc in my hand, I lose my entire life's muscle memory of how to throw things. Also, it sounds weird, but try giving the ol' 1 fingie forehand a shot. Marwede and Goose are some of the best forehanders on the planet, so there's clearly something to it.
It’s in the wrist!! It is a slight lead with elbow but you have to finish at the wrist. Hard snap at the end. Almost like a baseball umpire calling a strike sideways!! Also I only like OS disc for it.
I've also noticed my disc speed on forehand is faster than with my backhand. Its probably because the flick is snappier than the curl/unwind of the backhand. This makes some of my more over-stable discs more viable for flip up lines than I could achieve with a backhand.
I would recomend to try focus on your timing also. The idea is that you shouldn't turn your hips and upper body before your plant foot (the block) hits the ground. There may be some movement but this is the goal. E.g. the leading arm can open up a bit but shoulders and hips should stay relatively stable. On your "bad" throws you are a way too ahead of your throw bcause you have turned your upper body so much. You basically throw only with your arm. On your great throws the timing is much better but not ideal. I'd say that even your guest could focus on a timing a bit but that's just my take.😁otherwise your technique looks solid. Keep hitting the gym to build strong foundation for your block and get more power out of it!
Hey, I have commented on another video. I will honestly trade you forehand tips with you for backhand tips. I have taught a few people forehands and know your issues. I have a 450-500ft forehand but max out backhand at 400 and it drives me nuts! I live in brromfield and have played in a fort morgan tournament that you played at as well.
Speaking of forehands!…. Did you see Joey Buckets’ forehand on hole 17 of Idlewild??? After he sank his birdie putt it looked like he picked up a cash stash Firebird! Did you make that stamp in a Firebird?
Not a lot of power, but a ton of finesse. It really is finding the feel. With a buzz, or midrange, it’s really more about the flick,not the hard wrist snap. With a 12 speed, it’s more of the wrist snap. Right now, the only comparison I could make for mids, not related to DiscGolf, and not flicking, is throwing a paper or styrofoam airplane. Get that finesse down, the you can speed up.
new to frolf and just wondering why sometimes players while putting carry multiple discs and do multiple strokes. Is is purely a repetition thing or is it a facet of the game I dont get?
Idk practice and the 2nd shot, Player B usually always gets it. Once you get how to do it correctly, the next time you are in that scenario you will know what to do. That's why I do a couple putts sometimes
Only thing I would say is "throw with your elbow" is a very dangerous thing to say. Your elbow initiates the movement, but if you drive with your elbow like a backhand you will ruin your arm.
Do you think if Eagle could go back pre-injury to fix his forehand form he would? He drove with the elbow hard, and probably a reason he's been injured in the past. Do you think he would trade the seasons where he was throwing 500-600ft sidearms on tour for a longer forehand career? He'd probably give up his massive distance and never have been known as the forehand bomber he was. I'm not sure though. He may still be able to throw sidearms just as far post-surgery. Btw wasn't trying to say you were wrong or anything. Just made me think about Eagle and provoked the thought.
@@ThrowinWithOwen Eagle didn’t drive with the elbow either though. He lead with it. It’s very different. He injured himself doing a 360 forehand, which is insanely dangerous.
@@tdkempton Lol okay or don't answer the hypothetical. Basically i was asking a fun question of "would you rather risk injury for a few years of legendary greatness, or stary away from throwing further and lead a longer career." I just used eagle as an example as he has one of the furthest forehands. I wasn't trying to correct your comment or anything. Your comment sparked an idea for a fun question. Thought i was gunna get a fun answer, darn.
You arnt “throwing with your elbow” ur elbow is “initiating” the forehand movement then being used as a hinge to get ur hand and disc out around in front of you
The only way to get better at forehand is play forehand only for like 6 months, everything will come together, especially with how fast you picked up backhand.
Bag the zone for approach, hades for max distance, hex for straight, raptor and venom for long approach, and the cicada or crave for straight to flippy.
I played a handful of times in 2022 but this year is when I really started getting into disc golf. I started playing with a coworker regularly and go out on my own when they're not off on the same day. That being said I throw much further than I did when I first started and my forehand is getting ridiculous for how new I am. I regularly birdie hole 7 and 9 at Owls Den usually with a 80-100 ft second toss. I almost birdied from the log on 7 the other day.
You are not preloading your wrist back. Watch eagle and Ricky how they push the thier wrist back with their other hand to get more spin which means less wabble
It is more important to have a loose wrist. Listen at time stamp 20:13 or so. Brodi Also talks about this. It is difficult for me to describe, but ... If your wrist is loose, it will snap backwards when you drive the elbow forward, and then you get a very rapid tendon bounce and the wrist and disc snap forward. Way faster and more powerful than the static preloading you are using now / suggesting. This is what they mean by drive with the elbow not the hand. Watch in slow motion, they start by driving the elbow and you will see the wrist lag and then rapidly snap forward. The static pictures with the elbow leading are a bit of an illusion because at this moment rather than some sort of contortion or unnatural movement, the wrist has lagged due to inertia and this static picture is the tendon bounce and is immediately followed by the forward bounce. You can feel this, or start, by holding your wrist loose and swinging the disc at 25% to 50% speed, let the wrist bounce. Time stamp 20:30 or so, he is whipping the loose wrist, this is how he leads with the elbow, and it is very different than preloading.. Hope that helps.
@@leopard3131 preloading works better more accurate less wabble. Maybe after you get use to your wrist being all the way back then try limp wrist. But when you use more arm then wrist it creates wabble. Try throwing with out your wrist going back and watch the wabble
@@JoshJackson13 I would say "wobble" is due to OAT (Off Angle Torque) and yes it may help beginners to pre-load, but it is possible to throw with a loose wrist and without OAT. You make a good case for preloading for accuracy/ up shots but definitely at the cost of distance.
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Forehandana 🍌…🏃🏽♂️
"Translate to English" under this comment got me dead 👌
He’s right about, when it’s right, you won’t feel it. It’s like hitting a golf ball on the screws. I so recommend anyone standing 15-20 in front of net. Grab 40 or 65 disc, just flick them into the net like you’re only trying to throw 75’ or less. Get to where this disc feels great, or you don’t feel it, then speed up a little. We all heard of skipping rocks in water, I do think that’s helpful for sure. FH was very natural to me, BH was like learning to walk again. One thing I’ve tried to visualize and help people is, think about bowling, down middle of the lane, the arm, forearm, hand, and ball are all on the line down the middle. Even in bowling the wrist will turn over after the ball is gone. Now go to FH, now you’re just going laterally. Pick your angle and go. If your doing the stacked/pistol grip, middle finger into the rim and or where rim meets plate, with the index finger, think about not letting any part of it touch the plate, just pressure on the middle finger. It’s hard, you just don’t won’t any finger pads on the plate
Them sitting on the bench with the sun setting in the background @ 22:20 is cute, nice to see you guys getting along
Another masterpiece video with gems. This has greatly helps me my forehand literally went up another 100 foot a 350’foot time lapse and 320’foot trail and 300 foot felon today. The consistency alone is a big deal for me as back hand dominant player thank you!! The Roman is nice too, I think my Texas stamp one is slightly too gummy for liking to forehand.
Love when you two collaborate.
Watching you throw forehands and trying to figure it out is me with my backhand. Forehands are so natural to me and can fix things on the fly if something doesn’t feel right. For the past year I have refused to to throw forehands which has really hurt what I can actually do but my backhand is slowly improving
I've always been pretty good at forehand but i couldnt describe why, this guy explains it so perfectly. The "lead with the elbow" and "roll off the middle finger" are key points.
My dad does not and when he played (he no longer plays), he had a better forehand then 80% of the non pro players. My dad, he seemed to do both the forcing of hand but in more the wrist and the proper arm movement in the elbow joint. Yes, leading with the elbow is how my dad would say having a straighter but not a fully straight arm was his other tip as then you can't lead with the elbow. When he played, he also did a push putt with spin where he would do a full on traditional from the waist push putt but have high spin as well, mainly because he used either a Rubber Putter Lighting Disc or a old run Juju in supreme plastic and both he needed spin becuse discs were high glide.
I appreciate you introducing me to @Broderic channel. Love your content, your videos are reenactments of my day to day with ADHD. But... When it comes to forehands the disc has to be absolutely comfortable so my go to is a DM instinct and the DM DD2 bigger rim sits more comfortable. Congratulations on becoming a father also. Keep the content coming and still wanna see a @birdogie Jefferson collab.
Congratulations on your new baby, Banana 🎉🎉🎉
I’ve seen that throwing elbow first can be an easy way to injure/strain your arm…if you don’t really have that flexibly and warm up. Started throwing elbow in line with wrist. What’s talking about where you feel loose but draw the power together at the end, flicking the wrist and rolling off your middle finger is what I felt for. My longest shot so far is 488ft with a gold plastic Ballista Pro on an Annie Flex shot
Lov the video! Gives me some thoughts to try out with an already pretty smooth forehand!
Do have a video where you talk more about what you've done in the gym? Do you have examples of how not to compensate through the wrong muscles and parts of your body? I think others and I would really appreciate that!
I don't yet, will be making those as I get things figured out. I like sharing the journey, but when I plan to make more difinitive "this is what I think is right" style videos, I want to have my own form close to fully ironed out. So hopefully it'll come in time for most people's off seasons since I'm in the middle of working through it myself RN!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Fair enough haha, keep it up man! Looking forward to that video when it comes out, and excited for you to reach that point where you feel confident in it to feel that its fully ironed out.
I always seem to drop my forehand in the dip 60 70 short on 7. I have noticed when I over exaggerate my follow through, I tend to push the disc out a bit further because it's causing more motion in wrist. I have also noticed when I stay lower I have better motion through my arm during the hit. Being a big guy, my former looks horrible, but it seems to work for me.
What Broderic said about feeling it roll off your fingertips is my exact thoughts also. Just imagine trying to skip a rock across a lake or river. It’s literally the same motion as a forehand, except you aim about 30-40 feet in front of you with a disc. My favorite forehand shape is anhyzer flex with something like a discraft venom, or even my c blend pharaoh.
Yeah I don't have a great forehand by any means, but if I try to pull the disc into rotation with the fingers, it just goes into the ground every time. Have to let it come off the fingers, not cling to them. That way i get smooth flights with no wobble. Just gotta figure out the power
@@luuhax did you grow up with ball sports at all?
Your issue sounds like the one I was having with off axis torque. Essentially turning the hand over through the wrist, like you do flicking the baseball or football off your hand.
Turns the disc over- if you master it, it’s a pretty mean roller
@@sdreaver816 No I wouldn't say that. I can throw a ball plenty well but didn't play at all with anything heavier than a tennis ball.
My issue was that i thought pulling the disc with my fingers until the last second was something good. And while it does put power on the disc, it's virtually impossible to get a clean release.
So I'm happy broderic cues the disc to roll off the fingers instead of actively curling and digging the fingertips into the disc.
Never reall had the off axis torque, but the power is my struggle. My friend does experience it though and we have similar backgrounds. It's a tricky movement pattern to get down.
I watched Broderic's Forehand for Idiots video where he is in your face with his teaching last week. I have been doing better this week being smooth like butter with it.
For both back hand and sidearm, look into how to get more HIP INTERNAL ROTATION. Nobody talks about this and coming from a bodybuilding background, this is something I’ve dealt with. My hips were always too tight from being smaller and lifting heavier in the gym.
Such a fun video, thank you!
9:03 lead with elbow into the throw after plant and hip engagement. Just thinking the hit point and follow through after that. Focus ya 10:07
This is why I watch disc golf
Cant stop thinking how with some hat color changes, this would be mario learning forehand from Luigi. Sick stache Bodanza
My forehand has always been a work in progress. For some reason I have a very solid standstill touch forehand within ~200, but driving forehands have always been a (slowly improving) dumpster fire. What I've been working on is trying to just forget that I'm throwing a disc. I know how to throw a baseball or a football or whatever, but once I'm thinking about the fact that it's now a disc in my hand, I lose my entire life's muscle memory of how to throw things. Also, it sounds weird, but try giving the ol' 1 fingie forehand a shot. Marwede and Goose are some of the best forehanders on the planet, so there's clearly something to it.
It’s in the wrist!! It is a slight lead with elbow but you have to finish at the wrist. Hard snap at the end. Almost like a baseball umpire calling a strike sideways!! Also I only like OS disc for it.
3:30 buzz goes straight
ahhhh the short shorts battle.
brod is the only worthy competitor
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Get some longer shorts
Brod wins
Drew could definitely give them a run for their money.
13:27 Phauckin genius
Throwing is a feeling relax and get it out there how you do it, make like Nike
I've also noticed my disc speed on forehand is faster than with my backhand. Its probably because the flick is snappier than the curl/unwind of the backhand. This makes some of my more over-stable discs more viable for flip up lines than I could achieve with a backhand.
I'll have to remember the swoop fix, I have friends that do it and need that advice.
Do you keep your middle finger stiff when you release? Or do you curl your middle finger?
I would recomend to try focus on your timing also. The idea is that you shouldn't turn your hips and upper body before your plant foot (the block) hits the ground. There may be some movement but this is the goal. E.g. the leading arm can open up a bit but shoulders and hips should stay relatively stable. On your "bad" throws you are a way too ahead of your throw bcause you have turned your upper body so much. You basically throw only with your arm. On your great throws the timing is much better but not ideal. I'd say that even your guest could focus on a timing a bit but that's just my take.😁otherwise your technique looks solid. Keep hitting the gym to build strong foundation for your block and get more power out of it!
Hey, I have commented on another video. I will honestly trade you forehand tips with you for backhand tips. I have taught a few people forehands and know your issues. I have a 450-500ft forehand but max out backhand at 400 and it drives me nuts! I live in brromfield and have played in a fort morgan tournament that you played at as well.
Speaking of forehands!…. Did you see Joey Buckets’ forehand on hole 17 of Idlewild??? After he sank his birdie putt it looked like he picked up a cash stash Firebird! Did you make that stamp in a Firebird?
prett sure that's a k3 jarn
@@BodanzaDiscGolf just realized it was only 287 ft 🤦♂️😅
Actually how do you throw a buzz ss forehand like that???
Not a lot of power, but a ton of finesse. It really is finding the feel. With a buzz, or midrange, it’s really more about the flick,not the hard wrist snap. With a 12 speed, it’s more of the wrist snap. Right now, the only comparison I could make for mids, not related to DiscGolf, and not flicking, is throwing a paper or styrofoam airplane. Get that finesse down, the you can speed up.
Dude I play adams hollow like 4 times a week 100% subbed lmao
This is so fucking good
2:24 that’s what’s up way to get it in there subliminally
A scorch or mystere might be your driver forehand jam.
lead with your elbow, roll off the middle finger, keep your chest down... got it!
This!! As someone with history as a pitcher getting base from trunk and legs allows the powaaaa (insert Arnold swarzenegger* voice)
Congratulations on becoming a dad!
I love how it looks like he just ate italian meatballs in the thumbnail.
new to frolf and just wondering why sometimes players while putting carry multiple discs and do multiple strokes. Is is purely a repetition thing or is it a facet of the game I dont get?
Idk practice and the 2nd shot, Player B usually always gets it. Once you get how to do it correctly, the next time you are in that scenario you will know what to do. That's why I do a couple putts sometimes
5:42 this is epic creatI’ve content
17:50 every throw
Hardest part of this is powering up. Takes so long to get that smooth flicky timing with a ton of power.
Them shorts so short we were an inch away from a YT ToS violation.
I am a 12 year old, my forehand goes 250 ft and my backhand goes 150 ft. What am I supposed to do?
Keep at it. You're doing great!
Both
Keep grinding.
For practice reps keep throwing putters before switching to drivers.
7:22 7:24 😂
As much as I'm like "it has to be a boy" I'm guessing you had a baby bodanzette!
24:15 Bodanza Tate
wobble = off axis torque
What I hear him saying is "stop thinking so much" and let your body work.
@@kyleliebler5508 exactly
Only thing I would say is "throw with your elbow" is a very dangerous thing to say. Your elbow initiates the movement, but if you drive with your elbow like a backhand you will ruin your arm.
Do you think if Eagle could go back pre-injury to fix his forehand form he would? He drove with the elbow hard, and probably a reason he's been injured in the past. Do you think he would trade the seasons where he was throwing 500-600ft sidearms on tour for a longer forehand career? He'd probably give up his massive distance and never have been known as the forehand bomber he was. I'm not sure though. He may still be able to throw sidearms just as far post-surgery.
Btw wasn't trying to say you were wrong or anything. Just made me think about Eagle and provoked the thought.
@@ThrowinWithOwen Eagle didn’t drive with the elbow either though. He lead with it. It’s very different. He injured himself doing a 360 forehand, which is insanely dangerous.
@@tdkempton Lol okay or don't answer the hypothetical. Basically i was asking a fun question of "would you rather risk injury for a few years of legendary greatness, or stary away from throwing further and lead a longer career." I just used eagle as an example as he has one of the furthest forehands. I wasn't trying to correct your comment or anything. Your comment sparked an idea for a fun question. Thought i was gunna get a fun answer, darn.
You arnt “throwing with your elbow” ur elbow is “initiating” the forehand movement then being used as a hinge to get ur hand and disc out around in front of you
@@danieljohnson792 yes that’s what I said. In the video he said “throw with your elbow” so I’m attempting to save some people some very bad injury
The only way to get better at forehand is play forehand only for like 6 months, everything will come together, especially with how fast you picked up backhand.
Bag the zone for approach, hades for max distance, hex for straight, raptor and venom for long approach, and the cicada or crave for straight to flippy.
I played a handful of times in 2022 but this year is when I really started getting into disc golf. I started playing with a coworker regularly and go out on my own when they're not off on the same day. That being said I throw much further than I did when I first started and my forehand is getting ridiculous for how new I am. I regularly birdie hole 7 and 9 at Owls Den usually with a 80-100 ft second toss. I almost birdied from the log on 7 the other day.
I'm hoping those birdies eventually turn into aces
Missed you at Idlewild this weekend!! Congrats on being a dad!!
foot fault
@bonanza I still would love to play a round with you at adams.
You are not preloading your wrist back. Watch eagle and Ricky how they push the thier wrist back with their other hand to get more spin which means less wabble
Start your throw with your wrist all the way back
It is more important to have a loose wrist. Listen at time stamp 20:13 or so.
Brodi Also talks about this.
It is difficult for me to describe, but ...
If your wrist is loose, it will snap backwards when you drive the elbow forward, and then you get a very rapid tendon bounce and the wrist and disc snap forward. Way faster and more powerful than the static preloading you are using now / suggesting.
This is what they mean by drive with the elbow not the hand.
Watch in slow motion, they start by driving the elbow and you will see the wrist lag and then rapidly snap forward.
The static pictures with the elbow leading are a bit of an illusion because at this moment rather than some sort of contortion or unnatural movement, the wrist has lagged due to inertia and this static picture is the tendon bounce and is immediately followed by the forward bounce.
You can feel this, or start, by holding your wrist loose and swinging the disc at 25% to 50% speed, let the wrist bounce.
Time stamp 20:30 or so, he is whipping the loose wrist, this is how he leads with the elbow, and it is very different than preloading..
Hope that helps.
@@leopard3131 preloading works better more accurate less wabble. Maybe after you get use to your wrist being all the way back then try limp wrist. But when you use more arm then wrist it creates wabble. Try throwing with out your wrist going back and watch the wabble
@@JoshJackson13 I would say "wobble" is due to OAT (Off Angle Torque) and yes it may help beginners to pre-load, but it is possible to throw with a loose wrist and without OAT.
You make a good case for preloading for accuracy/ up shots but definitely at the cost of distance.