Rule correction @ 15:23 - Having the weakest military doesn't exactly mean you go first for the next age, it means you get to choose who begins the next Age. This is explained in the "End of an Age" section of the rule book.
I'm glad that my idea got the most votes. I was just extremely overjoyed and well...Keep up the good work guys. you are what makes this channel worthwhile. And i am glad that my suggestion had helped out.
Great video, Rodney. I learned a lot here especially the almost analysis paralysis 11:15 - 12:30! Good thinking, though. It's nice of you to show us some strategy. Whether it works or not is another story! ha ha ha. Thanks.
Thanks a lot for these videos Rodney. Have been out of the hobby for the last 2 years. Used to watch you all the time back then (Mansion of Madness and LoTR LCG days). Bumbed on your videos recently and ended up on the 7W duels videos. You have convinced to jump back in the hobby. Cheers mate! Nice to see your channel big and healthy!
This video is 2 year old! I just bought this game with my girlfriend, thank you so much for making a lets play on this one, it was not very easy to get on the first read. I learn by example so this is perfect. Have a good day!
Trash the first Military card (Rodney can't afford it, Pep gets it for free). Reveal one and hope it's not too good for Pep. Pep can't afford the 7 points, so he'd have to trash that one or buy the other card. If purchase, the left-most Science is now revealed for Rodney to either buy or trash. Either way Pep doesn't get it, and nothing new revealed. Pep will now be forced to do something with the 7 points. If Pep does trash the 7 Points first thing, Rodney now has all 3 of the next hidden cards to choose from, and can continue to control the game's path from there.
+Matthew Gravelyn Pep will just sell the blue card off if Rodney grabs the Military card. He has no reason to uncover the science for Rodney, and will inevitably uncover two of those three cards for Rodney to pick from, regardless of whether Rodney picks the military.
+David Davison True, that is likely Pep's move, but Rodney can't buy the Points either, and should get rid of the Military so Pep doesn't use it to push the advantage.
Pep has no reason to allow Rodney to take the science he's aiming for. And as long as they wander down the right side, the two cards being revealed happens on Pep's turn by simple calculations.
+Matthew Gravelyn no reason to trash the red because if he allow Pep to build the red he can gain 7 point with the blue in this way he is sure to win if Pep do not win with science.
+Christian Mazzaretto EDIT: Not sure how I kept counting this wrong, but you're right, Rodney can afford the Blue. It will cost him his last coin to buy the wood, but he'll get a few points. Pep will almost assuredly build the Military at that point, again for pressure, but the revealed card may change that (if it's Science, for example). I still think there's some merit to trashing the Military, but the Points is looking much better, and may be what Rodney needs to pull ahead in the game if Pep gets a few more Science.
I don't know what exactly Rodney's next move should be, but I do know what strategy he should take through the third age. Pep will end the game if he gets his hands on two of the three science cards on the left, so Rodney should: 1. focus on taking cards on the right. This will force pep to take cards on the left if he wants the science cards, and then taking them away from him with every opportunity. 2. focus on going heavy in military. Rodney might have a chance in pushing the military tracker all the way to pep's side ending the game before pep can end it with science.
Spending 5 gold for Circus Maximus, with no grey card to trash, when the 5-point blue cost 1, and giving up the shot at an age 3 Mausoleum play... had me shouting at the screen. :-) Too much action!
6:50 I would say you get negative points if you don't get the reference, but I did make a Dredd costume for Halloween and own a decent number of the omnibus comics so I might be bias.
+The Last Phoenix The irony of this playthrough is that I never really go for science in the regular 7 Wonders. But I have a special love for "end the game early" conditions in games. So I'm having a bit of fun with it!
All people like a good underdog story, so because when I watch your videos always feels like you are the underdog i hope you win this xD. My suggestion is to construct the blue card (you can afford it, for the lumber you pay 1 and you produce the other resources, if i'm wrong trash the red card), then if Pep construct for free the military card you build or trash the middle on the second row. After that Pep will build or trash the card on the right in the second row and you trash the middle military card (otherwise Pep will take it if he will trash a card to gain money). Then Pep astonished by your tactic will surrender, no kidding :), Pep will trash the red card that cost 8 (because he will have no money to build it). In this way y will prevent him to build a red card in the third row. After that you will end the card on the right and you will be forced to build the last card on the second row (if Pep did not build it before). Now is the tricky part. If Pep build the green card on the left no problem y trash(or build) the one on the right and he will not win by a science victory, otherwise if he will build the right green card in the third row you will trash the left card then Pep will be forced to reveal to you the other green card in the fifth row and you will trash(or build) it too (remember that all the card on the right will be gone so that will be the only legal move that he can do). If Pep reveal the two science card before the cards on the right are over just trash the green card on the right. The tactic is simple, y must end the card on the right and then you can destroy the two identical green card.
+Christian Mazzaretto , One thing if you reveal another green card that Pep needs you lose no matter what you do. Not even Julius Caesar (or Giulio Cesare in italian) could win the game if you reveal another green card for Pep xD. If you reveal another green card the only thing you can do is take it and run away with it so Pep can not build it xD.
At 16:06 Pep winks and clicks his mouth at the same time. When he winks with his left eye, he clicks with the left side of his mouth (left side of lips are parted, right side of lips are sealed). When he winks with his right eye, he clicks with the right side of his mouth. However, I'm the opposite. Whenever I wink with my left eye, I click with the right side of my mouth, and vice versa. It's incredibly difficult for me to do it the same way as Pep. Rodney, when you wink and click your mouth, which way do you do it? Wink left, click left like Pep? Or Wink left, click right like me? Or can you do it both ways with equal effort? It's just a weird, interesting, phenomena.
Hey Rob, we have a tutorial video for the game that explains the rules, you'll want to check there first: ua-cam.com/video/SxQkMRUvCJ8/v-deo.html You'll find an index that can take you right to the section on yellow cards so you can see how they work.
@@WatchItPlayed Thanks for the reply, and I saw this tutorial already! Which is great, just a hard game I find with a lot of rules. I see at 2:58 he has a stone in his yellow card supply, and also a stone in his brown. So I'm just still confused on why he had to spend money. Did he pay for an extra stone because you have it in your brown card supply?
+Simon That's not how the Yellow Markets work in 7 Wonders Duel. When you have the Market card, those resources cost exactly 1 gold each that are listed on them (regardless of how many of those resources your opponent has).
Well, Pep only needs one Science that Rodney has a chance to prevent. If Pep gets ahold of the one hidden science symbol or if a science is hidden below the two sciences that are side by side, Rodney will definitely lose. Rodney's hope is in staying as far to the right of the board as he can, but this won't actually prevent the acquisition of at least one more science for Pep. Rodney is lucky to be going first this time, or there would be absolutely no stopping Pep from acquiring all the science symbols he needed in order to win.
I thought that the player with the weakest military position (or, if the military position is neutral, the player who takes the final turn in an age) got to CHOOSE who plays first in the next age? Could you clarify?
Yes, this is something we added to the description of the video back when this aired (that's usually where you'll find corrections if we have any we need to make).
Just bought this game, I don't understand the concept of wasting a card and how you decide to put it under your wonder card or put it at the top of the board
+TheGreatHamEl I do that sometimes. I'm probably just as excited as everyone else when a video comes out to see how it all got pieced together. It's an exciting process. :)
Just a quick thing I notice at 13:16, I think that Pep was suppose to pay another gold because Rodney had the grey glass works building. Unless I missed a certain card Pep had that got rid of that cost. Also, I believe Rodney should go full military on the last age and crush those egg-head scientists!!!!
At around the 3 min marker, shouldn't Pep have paid 2 coins to buy that military card? He paid one coin, but Rodney has a brown stone card. Should it have been 2 because he has the market card reducing the cost plus 1 coin because of Rodney's card?
Thanks, I didn't realize what those cards meant, I thought it was 1 just to the bank but still having to pay-up the amount your opponent had. Those cards are pretty huge in the long run it seems!
+Dregar Ironfaith I think I made myself into the underdog by going with a "science or nothing" approach. It's going to be a hard fight! The cheering is appreciated.
@@WatchItPlayed Thanks for the quick answer, I just bought the game and was looking to get a good feel before I strart playing it with my girlfriend. The timestamp would be at @8:28.
@@ßrinkmon Ah, gotcha, it's explained in that segment. It's free because I have the aqueduct. If you haven't watched the specific tutorial video, I would recommend that. In the game plays, we don't cover all the rules in detail, because we do that in the tutorial video: ua-cam.com/video/SxQkMRUvCJ8/v-deo.html
Blue shirt, please sneak a military victory in the next round, grab all the military you can, because at least you can startle the red shirt, first turn take the red card, he will grab blue, next take the middle card, he must reveal either his science or your red cards, unless you can get two of the same color sciences, don't bother holding them, he can't take another green ability it appears. Do grab or sell the guilds that you reveal, particularly the blue card guild
The papyrus produced on my side was on a yellow card, so it wouldn't change Pep's trading costs. Only the gray and brown cards affect the price of goods.
Hummm...Rodney may be saved after all. Unless there are a few more different science cards face down, Pep can't win via science since 2 of the same type are showing. Basically, Rodney needs to focus on chucking the science cards unless Pep can catch him on points while Pep needs to gobble up every military he can, basically as a diversion if more science shows up or as his only path to victory if they don't. That's really my big gripe with this game. You have one person go science leaving the other person either going full-bore into military or doing nothing but hate-drafting for 2 ages. Chasing points really only works if the science cards break even. And that tavern card (the FREE 6 gold card that even let's you build a great age III card for free) is just broken. Why in the world that card didn't get nerfed during development is beyond me as it just screams "I'm broken!".
OMG The Law from VGHS. I bet Luke told you because only kids watch VGHS . I remember when u did the VGHS game too.Also when you go to conventions how many kids are around the age of 12 there.
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Rule correction @ 15:23 - Having the weakest military doesn't exactly mean you go first for the next age, it means you get to choose who begins the next Age. This is explained in the "End of an Age" section of the rule book.
+Popcornio Yep, exactly right, we misspoke despite teaching this correctly in the instructional video. Good catch!
I'm glad that my idea got the most votes. I was just extremely overjoyed and well...Keep up the good work guys. you are what makes this channel worthwhile. And i am glad that my suggestion had helped out.
+Travis Robinett Thanks for participating Travis!
no problem. i hope to participate even more. and thanks for the shout out in the bloopers
upon building the first wonder, i think it would be best if he used the military. so that on his free turn, he could get the science. + "The Law"
Great video, Rodney. I learned a lot here especially the almost analysis paralysis 11:15 - 12:30!
Good thinking, though. It's nice of you to show us some strategy. Whether it works or not is another story! ha ha ha.
Thanks.
+Prince Anon We'll see ;)
Thanks a lot for these videos Rodney. Have been out of the hobby for the last 2 years. Used to watch you all the time back then (Mansion of Madness and LoTR LCG days). Bumbed on your videos recently and ended up on the 7W duels videos. You have convinced to jump back in the hobby. Cheers mate! Nice to see your channel big and healthy!
Great to have you back in the hobby! I too was in and out of it at different times in my life :)
Just started watching your channel just wanted to say your videos are great some of the best walk throughs available. Keep up the great work.
+ikilledprotoman Thank you so much - we really appreciate your thoughtful comment :)
This video is 2 year old! I just bought this game with my girlfriend, thank you so much for making a lets play on this one, it was not very easy to get on the first read. I learn by example so this is perfect. Have a good day!
Hey, thanks for the kind feedback - means a lot to know you found this helpful. Hope you both enjoy playing!
Thanks for a fun and informative video! :-) Just bought this game today, so this video was great help in getting a sense of the gameplay.
+Mats Lintonsson I hope you have a great time playing Mats!
Trash the first Military card (Rodney can't afford it, Pep gets it for free). Reveal one and hope it's not too good for Pep. Pep can't afford the 7 points, so he'd have to trash that one or buy the other card. If purchase, the left-most Science is now revealed for Rodney to either buy or trash. Either way Pep doesn't get it, and nothing new revealed. Pep will now be forced to do something with the 7 points.
If Pep does trash the 7 Points first thing, Rodney now has all 3 of the next hidden cards to choose from, and can continue to control the game's path from there.
+Matthew Gravelyn Pep will just sell the blue card off if Rodney grabs the Military card. He has no reason to uncover the science for Rodney, and will inevitably uncover two of those three cards for Rodney to pick from, regardless of whether Rodney picks the military.
+David Davison True, that is likely Pep's move, but Rodney can't buy the Points either, and should get rid of the Military so Pep doesn't use it to push the advantage.
Pep has no reason to allow Rodney to take the science he's aiming for. And as long as they wander down the right side, the two cards being revealed happens on Pep's turn by simple calculations.
+Matthew Gravelyn no reason to trash the red because if he allow Pep to build the red he can gain 7 point with the blue in this way he is sure to win if Pep do not win with science.
+Christian Mazzaretto EDIT: Not sure how I kept counting this wrong, but you're right, Rodney can afford the Blue. It will cost him his last coin to buy the wood, but he'll get a few points. Pep will almost assuredly build the Military at that point, again for pressure, but the revealed card may change that (if it's Science, for example).
I still think there's some merit to trashing the Military, but the Points is looking much better, and may be what Rodney needs to pull ahead in the game if Pep gets a few more Science.
I don't know what exactly Rodney's next move should be, but I do know what strategy he should take through the third age. Pep will end the game if he gets his hands on two of the three science cards on the left, so Rodney should:
1. focus on taking cards on the right. This will force pep to take cards on the left if he wants the science cards, and then taking them away from him with every opportunity.
2. focus on going heavy in military. Rodney might have a chance in pushing the military tracker all the way to pep's side ending the game before pep can end it with science.
“I get to take another turn immediately” - - “urgh gross” 🤣🤣
Love playing this game with my wife. Thanks for all of your videos!
Glad you've both been enjoying!
Spending 5 gold for Circus Maximus, with no grey card to trash, when the 5-point blue cost 1, and giving up the shot at an age 3 Mausoleum play... had me shouting at the screen. :-) Too much action!
Those outtakes are hilarious!!! :)
+oobbs :)
6:50 I would say you get negative points if you don't get the reference, but I did make a Dredd costume for Halloween and own a decent number of the omnibus comics so I might be bias.
Lol, the "ever-present reminder" comment got me XD
+The Last Phoenix The irony of this playthrough is that I never really go for science in the regular 7 Wonders. But I have a special love for "end the game early" conditions in games. So I'm having a bit of fun with it!
"can I used that nickel..." LOL pep is the best! xD
Quite the sneaky trickster!
All people like a good underdog story, so because when I watch your videos always feels like you are the underdog i hope you win this xD. My suggestion is to construct the blue card (you can afford it, for the lumber you pay 1 and you produce the other resources, if i'm wrong trash the red card), then if Pep construct for free the military card you build or trash the middle on the second row. After that Pep will build or trash the card on the right in the second row and you trash the middle military card (otherwise Pep will take it if he will trash a card to gain money). Then Pep astonished by your tactic will surrender, no kidding :), Pep will trash the red card that cost 8 (because he will have no money to build it). In this way y will prevent him to build a red card in the third row. After that you will end the card on the right and you will be forced to build the last card on the second row (if Pep did not build it before). Now is the tricky part. If Pep build the green card on the left no problem y trash(or build) the one on the right and he will not win by a science victory, otherwise if he will build the right green card in the third row you will trash the left card then Pep will be forced to reveal to you the other green card in the fifth row and you will trash(or build) it too (remember that all the card on the right will be gone so that will be the only legal move that he can do).
If Pep reveal the two science card before the cards on the right are over just trash the green card on the right.
The tactic is simple, y must end the card on the right and then you can destroy the two identical green card.
+Christian Mazzaretto , One thing if you reveal another green card that Pep needs you lose no matter what you do. Not even Julius Caesar (or Giulio Cesare in italian) could win the game if you reveal another green card for Pep xD. If you reveal another green card the only thing you can do is take it and run away with it so Pep can not build it xD.
Pep! You need to wear a lab coat on the next episode!
It's been said, but the blue WiP shirt is quite dapper, Rodney!
+Travis Merkle Thank you, it's my color of choice when playing games, and I think the shirt turned out okay!
At 16:06 Pep winks and clicks his mouth at the same time. When he winks with his left eye, he clicks with the left side of his mouth (left side of lips are parted, right side of lips are sealed). When he winks with his right eye, he clicks with the right side of his mouth. However, I'm the opposite. Whenever I wink with my left eye, I click with the right side of my mouth, and vice versa. It's incredibly difficult for me to do it the same way as Pep.
Rodney, when you wink and click your mouth, which way do you do it? Wink left, click left like Pep? Or Wink left, click right like me? Or can you do it both ways with equal effort? It's just a weird, interesting, phenomena.
I do it the same on both the same side. Can't do it the other way though - at least not naturally!
At 2:58, why did he pay an extra stone, when he had two stones in his supply? (the yellow card he had a stone and the brown card he had a stone)
Hey Rob, we have a tutorial video for the game that explains the rules, you'll want to check there first: ua-cam.com/video/SxQkMRUvCJ8/v-deo.html You'll find an index that can take you right to the section on yellow cards so you can see how they work.
@@WatchItPlayed Thanks for the reply, and I saw this tutorial already! Which is great, just a hard game I find with a lot of rules. I see at 2:58 he has a stone in his yellow card supply, and also a stone in his brown. So I'm just still confused on why he had to spend money. Did he pay for an extra stone because you have it in your brown card supply?
@@CinemAdsvideo A yellow location doesn't automatically give you the resource, it instead gives you that resource at a fixed price. Hope that helps!
@@WatchItPlayed Thank you!
Was "I am the law." a reference from Martin the Warrior by Brian Jacques?
Never mind, it was probably from VGHS considering the context
+MahoBear8 It was for me, but I think Pep was thinking about Judge Dredd.
Great video!!! Do you have a video with the expansion “Pantheon”? Thanks
Hey Ana, glad you liked the video. I don't have one for the expansion.
13:30... pep would pay 3 coins for the glass? Because Rodney's glass resource?
His Yellow buildings provide a discount.
=O Okay!
+Simon That's not how the Yellow Markets work in 7 Wonders Duel. When you have the Market card, those resources cost exactly 1 gold each that are listed on them (regardless of how many of those resources your opponent has).
+Simon Glad I could help!
Pep is fantastic
I won't argue that :) Glad you're enjoying him on the show!
Well, Pep only needs one Science that Rodney has a chance to prevent. If Pep gets ahold of the one hidden science symbol or if a science is hidden below the two sciences that are side by side, Rodney will definitely lose. Rodney's hope is in staying as far to the right of the board as he can, but this won't actually prevent the acquisition of at least one more science for Pep. Rodney is lucky to be going first this time, or there would be absolutely no stopping Pep from acquiring all the science symbols he needed in order to win.
Puns and a good guest.
I love Pep 'n cheese.
I thought that the player with the weakest military position (or, if the military position is neutral, the player who takes the final turn in an age) got to CHOOSE who plays first in the next age? Could you clarify?
Yes, this is something we added to the description of the video back when this aired (that's usually where you'll find corrections if we have any we need to make).
Just bought this game, I don't understand the concept of wasting a card and how you decide to put it under your wonder card or put it at the top of the board
Hi Catherine, you'll find the rules covered in our tutorial video here: ua-cam.com/video/SxQkMRUvCJ8/v-deo.html
I'm just gonna start watching the outtakes first.
+TheGreatHamEl I do that sometimes. I'm probably just as excited as everyone else when a video comes out to see how it all got pieced together. It's an exciting process. :)
+Pep MacDonald Right on. You're a good addition to the channel.
What are all those rezourses aboot?
I know, eh?
Shouldn't mortars and pistols effect the miltary instead of science?
+Lyle Jackson en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortar_and_pestle
I'm still a little confused on how to build the wonders?
Hey Elsa, did you happen to watch our tutorial video? It is explained there: ua-cam.com/video/SxQkMRUvCJ8/v-deo.html
Just a quick thing I notice at 13:16, I think that Pep was suppose to pay another gold because Rodney had the grey glass works building. Unless I missed a certain card Pep had that got rid of that cost. Also, I believe Rodney should go full military on the last age and crush those egg-head scientists!!!!
+Neo james82 Remember, Pep bought the yellow building that reduces the cost of all glass and paper purchased, to 1 each.
***** I figured as much but thanks for reminding me. :)
At around the 3 min marker, shouldn't Pep have paid 2 coins to buy that military card? He paid one coin, but Rodney has a brown stone card. Should it have been 2 because he has the market card reducing the cost plus 1 coin because of Rodney's card?
Pep has the yellow Market card that reduces all Stone bought to 1 gold for him.
Thanks, I didn't realize what those cards meant, I thought it was 1 just to the bank but still having to pay-up the amount your opponent had. Those cards are pretty huge in the long run it seems!
They can be pretty important :)
I don't know why but I am cheering for Pep in this game. Sorry Rodney :)
+Dregar Ironfaith By all means, root for whomever you like :)
+Dregar Ironfaith I think I made myself into the underdog by going with a "science or nothing" approach. It's going to be a hard fight! The cheering is appreciated.
Rodney, At This Point It Is, Go Big Or Go Home, Grab That 7 Point Card!
Why is the aquaduct free when it costs 3 stone and he had only 2 stones available in his empire?
Sorry, I shot this long enough ago, that to answer your question, you're going to have to provide time stamps.
@@WatchItPlayed Thanks for the quick answer, I just bought the game and was looking to get a good feel before I strart playing it with my girlfriend. The timestamp would be at @8:28.
@@ßrinkmon Ah, gotcha, it's explained in that segment. It's free because I have the aqueduct. If you haven't watched the specific tutorial video, I would recommend that. In the game plays, we don't cover all the rules in detail, because we do that in the tutorial video: ua-cam.com/video/SxQkMRUvCJ8/v-deo.html
Blue shirt, please sneak a military victory in the next round, grab all the military you can, because at least you can startle the red shirt, first turn take the red card, he will grab blue, next take the middle card, he must reveal either his science or your red cards, unless you can get two of the same color sciences, don't bother holding them, he can't take another green ability it appears. Do grab or sell the guilds that you reveal, particularly the blue card guild
you guys rock!
Rodney was producing papyrus the whole time, so Pep should have paid 3 instead of 2 every time he bought papyrus
The papyrus produced on my side was on a yellow card, so it wouldn't change Pep's trading costs. Only the gray and brown cards affect the price of goods.
@@WatchItPlayed Aha, got it thanks
VGHS!
Deeper Reference: Human League song
Hey Rodney I think you have my name in there twice :)
+Josef Caruthers Indeed! Will fix, thanks.
Hummm...Rodney may be saved after all. Unless there are a few more different science cards face down, Pep can't win via science since 2 of the same type are showing. Basically, Rodney needs to focus on chucking the science cards unless Pep can catch him on points while Pep needs to gobble up every military he can, basically as a diversion if more science shows up or as his only path to victory if they don't.
That's really my big gripe with this game. You have one person go science leaving the other person either going full-bore into military or doing nothing but hate-drafting for 2 ages. Chasing points really only works if the science cards break even. And that tavern card (the FREE 6 gold card that even let's you build a great age III card for free) is just broken. Why in the world that card didn't get nerfed during development is beyond me as it just screams "I'm broken!".
I believe “the Law” is a Pee Wee Herman’s Big Adventure reference. Why? What’s the significance? I don’t know!!
Or Judge Dredd.
Rodney Smith, you are handsome!!!!
Well, at the very least, I know my wife agrees with you :) Hope you liked the video!
OMG The Law from VGHS. I bet Luke told you because only kids watch VGHS . I remember when u did the VGHS game too.Also when you go to conventions how many kids are around the age of 12 there.
+Jahred Dobranic Luke's never seen it, but I've watched the entire series. Maybe I'm just young at heart :)
+Watch It Played Yea u are. Then why did he like the board game vision so much?
+Jahred Dobranic Because he enjoyed the game?
+Watch It Played I was doing Judge Dredd myself.
thumbs up on the video game highschool referance
Glad you caught it :)
hey Smith pls play world of tanks rush
Thanks for the interest!
SORRY, My wife says you did not pronounce Caravansery properly.
Oops!
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