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    A lot of people sent me requests to go over this problem. I hope you love it!

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  • @xdarksun5072
    @xdarksun5072 Рік тому +4000

    How exciting

    • @cn4m
      @cn4m Рік тому +241

      Isn’t that cool?

    • @TheGamingPalace123
      @TheGamingPalace123 10 місяців тому +145

      *video ends*

    • @ky7501
      @ky7501 9 місяців тому +102

      You click on the comments section

    • @ywtch6608
      @ywtch6608 9 місяців тому +89

      You see this comment and open it

    • @MisterEbu
      @MisterEbu 9 місяців тому +84

      You read the replies

  • @CantoMando
    @CantoMando 9 місяців тому +811

    Love watching these. Hated working as an engineer, but I always had a love for math and this takes me back to solving fun puzzles like these in school

    • @riprider5626
      @riprider5626 9 місяців тому +16

      Aren’t you a mukbanger

    • @Alanis1337
      @Alanis1337 9 місяців тому

      @@riprider5626 always thought they were Chinesers

    • @michaelbujaki2462
      @michaelbujaki2462 8 місяців тому +7

      This comment makes me think that you might like a degree in mathematics, if it were feasible for you.

    • @ender0998
      @ender0998 7 місяців тому

      ​@@michaelbujaki2462man does makbangs for a living now

    • @Yo_Its_Joshu
      @Yo_Its_Joshu 2 місяці тому +3

      I'm looking to possibly become an engineer and have no idea what it's like, why was it so bad for you?

  • @joshuafeichter
    @joshuafeichter Рік тому +930

    My wife doesn’t understand why I love these videos

    • @AndyMath
      @AndyMath  11 місяців тому +217

      I love that you love these videos. Thank you!

    • @edwardmacnab354
      @edwardmacnab354 9 місяців тому +24

      my subconscious , which knows I'm not good at math, does not understand why I watch these type of videos .

    • @edwardmacnab354
      @edwardmacnab354 9 місяців тому +6

      @bikesboardsbeats which begs the question--why DO you love your wife ?

    • @preistestdragon4634
      @preistestdragon4634 8 місяців тому +17

      @@edwardmacnab354 well since the variable wife intersects the tangent line of the circle at a right angle we can use a^2*b^2=c^2 to solve.

    • @bababillenial7861
      @bababillenial7861 8 місяців тому +3

      "How exciting!"

  • @alexandersvensson3163
    @alexandersvensson3163 9 місяців тому +667

    I have not done math for 3 years since my studies are in different fields, but this was truly exciting. Nice video!

  • @zosanabria1619
    @zosanabria1619 10 місяців тому +67

    this guy solved the problem before i even knew what was happening

  • @david1rosenthal
    @david1rosenthal 9 місяців тому +644

    Since the answer mustn’t depend on the exact values of x and r, there is a very fast solution: Assume r is very, very small. This trivially makes the blue rectangle a square with a side of length 5.

    • @gegessen159
      @gegessen159 9 місяців тому +110

      This is thinking outside the box! Or actually thinking inside the box?

    • @JayMaverick
      @JayMaverick 9 місяців тому +30

      Ha, how elegant.

    • @RunstarHomer
      @RunstarHomer 9 місяців тому +21

      Limits are cool 😎

    • @youregay2947
      @youregay2947 9 місяців тому +3

      i dont get it

    • @snowfloofcathug
      @snowfloofcathug 9 місяців тому +55

      I’ve used that trick a few times. “Oh it works for all x? Let me just set it to an awfully convenient number and solve that instead”, never thought to take it to the limit though! That’s a grade above

  • @MoholtSb
    @MoholtSb 9 місяців тому +97

    It's a pity when i was at university i struggled a lot on passing math exams and i didn't appreciate the little things like this.
    Now after a few years i appreciate it

    • @FlyGuy2000
      @FlyGuy2000 7 місяців тому +9

      If these videos were around when I was in college I would have done so much better.

  • @_umarro_
    @_umarro_ 9 місяців тому +162

    you know a problem is even more exciting than usual when he hit us with the "isn't that cool?"

  • @srini9653
    @srini9653 10 місяців тому +322

    I missed that the 5cm line was tangent to the semi-circle. Cool problem. I have enjoyed. Thanks once again!

    • @gamingzeraora443
      @gamingzeraora443 10 місяців тому +3

      thats the first thing i noticed but couldnt figure out what to do with the perpendicular

    • @juv7026
      @juv7026 9 місяців тому +26

      wdym you ‘noticed’? Theres no way you couldve figured that without listening to the problem stament. He explicitly says that it is tangent

    • @gamingzeraora443
      @gamingzeraora443 9 місяців тому +14

      @@juv7026 it looked like atangent in the figure :) i didnt really listen to him thats why i couldnt solve the rest by myself

    • @extremepower5765
      @extremepower5765 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@juv7026yes he could. It was the most obvious part of the whole problem.

    • @juv7026
      @juv7026 9 місяців тому +18

      It does not look like a tangent (Try extending the line past the contact, does it look tangent anymore?)
      Assuming things like this from the diagram, instead of relying on the problem statement is not a good idea. You couldve also argued that the quarter circle ‘looks’ like it has the same radius, but you would not have got full points for your work.

  • @lelouch6457
    @lelouch6457 10 місяців тому +21

    Never could have thought the process would be this simple
    I mean I looked at it and was like calculus for sure

  • @Reskamo314
    @Reskamo314 10 місяців тому +15

    Your enthusiasm when saying "isn't that cool? :)" is really lovely

    • @adamnave1078
      @adamnave1078 8 місяців тому

      yeah its not the usual depressed "how exciting"

  • @nicholascalabria517
    @nicholascalabria517 2 місяці тому +1

    I loved math in high school. I thought I wanted to be a mathematician cause I loved stuff like this. Ended up in accounting and slowly got away from math like this. This video reignited that love. That's so cool. I love this. Thank you!

  • @AManAnd88Keys
    @AManAnd88Keys 9 місяців тому +9

    Your voice turns into Schwarzenegger at around 2:08 for a second, did you do that on purpose? :D

  • @laincoubert7236
    @laincoubert7236 9 місяців тому +44

    also you can use circle properties. idk the name of the theorem, but it states that tangent^2 = secant * secant's external segment. this problem is a unique case when the secant (the rectangle's lower side) passes through the circle's center.

    • @tamarkan
      @tamarkan 9 місяців тому +8

      It is called the tangent-secant theorem
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent%E2%80%93secant_theorem

    • @natanmotta7103
      @natanmotta7103 9 місяців тому +7

      Way easier, solved that way in matter of seconds

  • @jonathanmartin4919
    @jonathanmartin4919 9 місяців тому +116

    I literally screamed in excitement when you said that tangents of circles are perpendicular to the radius that touches at the same point. I completely forgot about that when I was trying to solve it on my own 😂

  • @bradballinger4757
    @bradballinger4757 9 місяців тому +31

    Another great video.
    This problem is a wonderful opportunity to use the Power of a Point Theorem. This says that if a line through point P intersects a circle and we measure the near and far distances from P to the circle along that line, the product of the two measurements is the same...no matter which line it was!
    In this case, P is the bottom left corner of the rectangle, and the circle I care about is the one with radius r.
    Measuring horizontally, we see that the "near distance" to the circle is x, while the "far distance" to the circle is x+2r. The product of these measurements is x(x+2r).
    Measuring along the red segment, the "near distance" is 5cm, and so is the "far distance". Their product is 25cm^2.
    By PoP, x(x+2r)=25cm^2.

  • @notryangosling2011
    @notryangosling2011 9 місяців тому +89

    I've tried this question before but I made the assumption that the radius of semicircle and quater circle are same.
    It's amazing to see how that would not affect the answer at all, we still get the same result even if the radius was not same.

    • @tcjgaming9813
      @tcjgaming9813 9 місяців тому +2

      Same, i labeled the radius on quarter circle and semi circle as x. Still got 25.

    • @notryangosling2011
      @notryangosling2011 9 місяців тому +3

      @@tcjgaming9813 that's what is amazing about this question that the area of rectangle does not depend on radius of the quater circle

    • @Marcus-qh3qy
      @Marcus-qh3qy 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@notryangosling2011 To be fair, if the radius of the quarter circle changes, the value of 5 should change as well. So it actually does depend on the radius.

    • @notryangosling2011
      @notryangosling2011 9 місяців тому +3

      @@Marcus-qh3qy yes, by Changing the radius of quater circle length of tangent must change if the radius of semicircle is fixed.
      But in this case radius of both the circles are not given and the only certain value that we know is the length of tangent (i.e. 5 cm).
      So if length of quatercircle changes, it would change the radius of semicircle, instead of affecting the length of tangent. length of the tangent still remains and have to remain 5 cm as it is defined by the question.
      And that is what's truly amazing about it, by keeping the length of tangent same, if we change the radius of one circle then the radius of other circle would change in such a way that the area of rectangle remains same.

    • @mikeunleashed1
      @mikeunleashed1 9 місяців тому +2

      Hes assuming the line is tangent to the semi-circle. You could argue it looks like its a tangent, but its not stated, so it could be sightly off. So the answer should be approximately 25.
      So the answer should be ≈25 not =25.

  • @ClaudioBrogliato
    @ClaudioBrogliato 7 місяців тому +2

    My way of solving: 5 is a leg of a 30 - 60 - 90 triangle which hypotenuse is 2 r and the other leg r. So r is 5 over sqrt 3. The rectangle has a side which is 3r long and the other which is as long as r. The area is 5 over sqrt 3 multiplied by 3 times 5 over sqrt 3 which is equal to 75 over 3 which is 25.

    • @gueganmarie9547
      @gueganmarie9547 7 місяців тому

      You assumed the two circle portions share the same radius, but they don't necessarily.

  • @VCOTABFONDD
    @VCOTABFONDD 7 місяців тому +4

    I’ve been looking for channels like this for ages because I *love* math! Just hearing one of the math terms just makes me smile!

  • @kingsonamadi5967
    @kingsonamadi5967 10 місяців тому +57

    I tried it by considering the radius of the semicircle and the quater circle to be same and got the same answer.
    However when you consider x and r , I was really curious to see where i went wrong. Amazing sum. Thanks for explaining.

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +1

      The values of x and r are not determined. And they can be the same.

    • @Erwipro
      @Erwipro 6 місяців тому

      Try drawing the same image, keeping x equal but r larger or smaller. You'll see where your assumption went wrong and why it still holds true.

  • @thisrandomdude2880
    @thisrandomdude2880 11 днів тому

    I always sucked at math. The numbers always kept getting jumbled and I could not memorize the formulas if my life depended on them. Your videos on the other hand are delightful. You really know how to make math short, concise, and pretty fun. Love these vids!

  • @strangeboysam2594
    @strangeboysam2594 10 місяців тому +4

    By actually applying Power of point Theorem you can end on the same result directly.

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +1

      Exactly! And that's the superior way. You may be strange, Sam. But you are smart.

  • @rwayle
    @rwayle 2 місяці тому +2

    It’s crazy how simple that was

  • @gutwrenchingdeaths
    @gutwrenchingdeaths 6 місяців тому +1

    as soon as I wrote out the Pythagorean for the tangent line I was like "wait a minute" surprisingly simple

  • @masteryuri4397
    @masteryuri4397 9 місяців тому +1

    Its amazing how hard and difficult problems, once split into easier and simpler steps crumble and just becomes solvable and clear, almost obvious. Exciting indeed

  • @epicandawesome1337
    @epicandawesome1337 4 місяці тому

    I haven't been into math for years, but I really appreciate how elegant this solution is. Your enthusiasm is really infectious. You're a great teacher.

  • @edl653
    @edl653 10 місяців тому +3

    One thing that I perceive as an error in the problem. The 5 cm line looks to be tangent to the circle in the same way that the radius of the 1/4 circle appears to be the same as that of the 1/2 circle. On the picture of the problem, it does not state that the line is tangent to the 1/2 circle, so maybe if one was able to zoom in on the picture, could not the intersects the circle and not tangent? It is only when you state that the 5 cm line is tangent in the video is it that we can take that to be the actual case. You could have also said that the x = r. Either one of those statements were not in the original problem.

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +1

      No. This would be unreasonable. The fact it shows just one point of intersection means it is a tangent point. It also doesn't say the curve lines are part of circles. We assume they are because that's reasonable. More, we don't actually need to assume anything. If the intersection point is not a tangent point, then the solution of the problem would be "the value of the area is indetermined (in this case). There is not enough information". But this would be the analysis of one case, one interpretation of the figure.

    • @Grizzly01-vr4pn
      @Grizzly01-vr4pn 9 місяців тому +1

      0:11 "... and then this red line with the length of 5 that goes from the vertex of this rectangle, tangent to the semicircle."
      Only if don't think that Andy's narration forms part of the question would you think it was an assumption.

  • @amartarei4357
    @amartarei4357 9 місяців тому +1

    Such an exciting problem visual, looked difficult at first but after making that extra construction it obly took 2 mins

  • @theloy5190
    @theloy5190 6 місяців тому +1

    Dang you bring my math vibes back to prime bro. I wanna try solving some math problem

  • @unshaftgamer2227
    @unshaftgamer2227 Місяць тому

    This was the coolest problem i have ever seen. At first i thought that this was impossible. But today i learnes that when the radius meetss at the r tangent point it creates right angle

  • @moin85
    @moin85 Рік тому +33

    Next step maybe would be to find the value instead of the '5', that makes x=r

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 10 місяців тому +7

      Huh? What do you mean? For each value of '5', there are infinite pairs (x,r) satisfying the situation in the problem. There is the case with x=r,
      '5'² = x²+2xr
      = x²+2x²
      = 3x²
      So, x = '5' √3/3.

    • @alexfoley9103
      @alexfoley9103 9 місяців тому

      ​@@samueldeandrade8535yeah but this not the solution buddy

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +2

      @@alexfoley9103 about what are you talking about? What did I say is a or the solution?

    • @thejerminator877
      @thejerminator877 9 місяців тому +3

      That's not really how this problem works. There is no single value of x or r; x and r can be anything as long as they satisfy the relation "25 = x^2 + 2xr".
      x = r is already a valid possibility. In other words, if you assume x = r, you'll still get the same solution.

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +1

      @@alexfoley9103 gave up? Great.

  • @yucalvin3205
    @yucalvin3205 Рік тому +7

    If the question didn't mention the line to be a tangent line, how am I supposed to prove that?

    • @AndyMath
      @AndyMath  11 місяців тому +5

      I don't believe anything could be concluded if the lines wasn't tangent.

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +2

      The fact the line just shows one point of intersection means that it is a tangent point. If it wasn't, it would show two points. That's part of the unspoken rules between the ones that make exercises and the ones that try to solve exercises.

    • @yucalvin3205
      @yucalvin3205 9 місяців тому

      @@samueldeandrade8535 the unspoken rule in my home country is that the diagrams on the exam paper are not drawn to scale. That's why I raise my question

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +2

      @@yucalvin3205 what you said now has nothing to do with your question. You are questioning the tangency of a point. Scales are something else.

    • @Grizzly01-vr4pn
      @Grizzly01-vr4pn 9 місяців тому

      0:11

  • @Drapkin
    @Drapkin Рік тому +6

    That's a really neat solution!

    • @AndyMath
      @AndyMath  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you, I thought so too. I was excited to share it!

  • @jorgefreitas5983
    @jorgefreitas5983 6 місяців тому

    That caught me by surprise! I did made the assumption the circles were the same, but seeing how they don't need to be made my day!

  • @michaelbujaki2462
    @michaelbujaki2462 8 місяців тому +1

    Looking at the problem, since the radius of the circle doesn't matter, we can assume that r get arbitrarily close to zero, letting the rectangle be a 5x5 square.

  • @Stirdix
    @Stirdix 9 місяців тому +26

    A meta-solution: if you know that the problem can be solved without any more information (i.e. without knowing the r/x ratio), then you may as well set r=0, which yields 25 immediately.

    • @seant2432
      @seant2432 9 місяців тому +5

      Instinctively, that feels like it's impossible. I believe you. You sound very confident, but I dont' understand

    • @Goku17yen
      @Goku17yen 9 місяців тому +1

      @@seant2432the 5 becomes x as the radius goes to 0, the hypotenuse becomes the 5cm side. 2 sides of the “triangle” are now 5cm and one side is 0cm. 5*5 = 25

    • @carajatagrawal
      @carajatagrawal 9 місяців тому +4

      Wow! I heard somewhere that people solve some questions just by putting 0 for something which seems unrealistic for example, area of triangle or a length of a line.
      But I always doubted how it was possible.
      Now with your comment I am getting it to some extent that If there is a lack of information and we know that the problem can be solved without such information, we can simply use 0 in such situations.
      Impressive! Please tell me more about it.

    • @UnknownString88
      @UnknownString88 9 місяців тому

      How does setting r=0 give you 25 "immediately"? You get Area=x^2 and you still have to solve it the same way.

    • @xhappybunnyx
      @xhappybunnyx 9 місяців тому

      Yeah this doesn't work, if you substitute 0 you get 25 = 0, meaning you need to back up and try again. Just because 25 is "all that is left" doesn't mean you can take it out of context of the equation he constructed and call it an answer

  • @iTriguy1
    @iTriguy1 10 місяців тому +22

    With channels like this kids have no excuses today. Just watching the videos for fun should help when you inevitably see similar problems in class and on tests.

    • @wavingbuddy3535
      @wavingbuddy3535 10 місяців тому +5

      youre not wrong but this a very basic problem, i was doing trig substitution integration at 17, i dont think people 40 years ago were. My a-level course for maths consisted of stuff that was being done by undergrads 40 years ago. That annoys me, because i found my a-levels easy as fuck, so to think i could've had a piss easy degree instead of one that makes me want to jump off a cliff....

    • @micahcoleman2760
      @micahcoleman2760 10 місяців тому +6

      @@wavingbuddy3535What does you gloating about trig substitutions have to the OP? There are kids doing that at 10. All he said was that videos like this are helpful; you went on a tangent about how advanced you were, and why you want an easier degree, which says something about your work ethic.

    • @MrDeanguy
      @MrDeanguy 10 місяців тому

      No its just your generations lack of care and lability

    • @theharderthemaththeharderi9018
      @theharderthemaththeharderi9018 10 місяців тому

      ​@@wavingbuddy3535a level maths is of no value tbf, further maths on the other hand

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 10 місяців тому +2

      "... kids have no excuses today". How funny it is that we normalized the "duty to study". And by funny I mean terrible, of course.

  • @supayambaek
    @supayambaek 9 місяців тому +3

    I literally forgot the tangential line is always perpendicular to the radius 😂 it's amazing how you can solve the problem with such limited information. you're a genius, bruh

    • @FlyGuy2000
      @FlyGuy2000 7 місяців тому

      Yeah, that was the key to this one.

  • @MrFrmartin
    @MrFrmartin 8 місяців тому +1

    can watch these all day

  • @venus_de_lmao
    @venus_de_lmao 15 днів тому

    I love your enthusiasm for math

  • @charlesthegreat4139
    @charlesthegreat4139 9 місяців тому

    This is one of those problems with a simple solution, but you have to know exactly what you're doing to find it. Well done.

  • @josephluken7853
    @josephluken7853 4 місяці тому

    I’d like to add another way of solving this that I found more natural:
    Draw the right triangle as shown and since 5 is a base of the triangle, you can use the 5,12,13 Pythagorean triple
    With this triple you can find that r is 12 since it is the base and that
    x + r is 13
    Then we find that x = 1 and add up x + r + r (12*2 + 1) to get 25

  • @smirk7614
    @smirk7614 9 місяців тому +1

    The line could have not been tangential to the circumference

  • @boblangford5514
    @boblangford5514 6 місяців тому

    I was going to ask how you knew the triangle was a right triangle, but I decided to rewatch the video to see if you in fact did explain it, and...you did! Great precise teaching. The way the video is so succinct and easy to follow really helps you learn!

  • @Bxvxnce
    @Bxvxnce 4 місяці тому

    As one of the only people I know who likes math, your videos make me very happy.
    How exciting

  • @GigaOtomia
    @GigaOtomia 9 місяців тому +9

    I got very close with a triangle calculator, and having forgotten every concept used in this video.
    I eyeballed the angle, and it looked close enough to 90 degrees, so I went with it. The angles of a triangle have to add up to 180, so I eyeballed the one opposite the 5cm side of the triangle, and came up with 60 degrees. I popped both that and the 5cm side into a right angle triangle calculator, and got 5.7735 for the longest side of the triangle - the one touching the rectangle. That looked to me like about 2/3rds of the long side of the rectangle, and twice the size of the short side, so I divided it by two (to get 2.88675), multiplied that by 3 (to get 8.66025), then multiplied those together and got 24.9999766875, which is close enough to 25 for me.

    • @jozefdkois
      @jozefdkois 9 місяців тому

      I have followed the same line of thinking as you have. With the same result.Maths have always been my weakness. Guaranteed I would not pass 5th class elementary school maths tests.

    • @Nugire
      @Nugire 9 місяців тому +1

      Sadly, this wouldn't get me any points in an math exam, because they graded not just the result, but how i got there.
      If i can solve it in my head and just wrote the answer, best i could hope for is that they let me redo the test in front of them/explain verbally how i got there.
      But most teachers wouldn't even give you that chance because it means A LOT of extra work when you just could write a basic way of solving down.

    • @Nugire
      @Nugire 9 місяців тому

      And eyeballing or even meassuring the drawing normally didn't go because they say that the drawing is not up to scale / it's not precise enought.

  • @seanwang8346
    @seanwang8346 5 місяців тому

    Just like a challenging puzzle, but once you utilize the concept of the tangent line at a point on the circle, everything begins to fall into place effortlessly.

  • @jcnot9712
    @jcnot9712 9 місяців тому +6

    I think a more interesting question would be to find the base (x + 2r) and height (x) separately, which I initially thought you had to do to find the area, but this is still a cool solution.

    • @bladeoflucatiel
      @bladeoflucatiel 9 місяців тому

      But he already did at the end. x(x+2r) = x2 +2xr

    • @jcnot9712
      @jcnot9712 9 місяців тому

      @@bladeoflucatiel so what’s x?

    • @siddhantyadav27
      @siddhantyadav27 9 місяців тому +9

      @@jcnot9712 You can't determine x in this problem. That is the beauty of this problem. When R approaches to zero X approaches 5 and the area remains constant that is 25. Similarly when r approaches infinity x tends to some value such that the area of rectangle remains 25. by the equation.

    • @JAYasSYNCOP
      @JAYasSYNCOP 9 місяців тому

      @@siddhantyadav27you can find X and R. 5 12 13 are pythagorus triplets so its so simple to find them

    • @jcnot9712
      @jcnot9712 9 місяців тому

      @@siddhantyadav27 that’s such a cool visual. Thanks for the explanation.

  • @seventhsun85
    @seventhsun85 3 місяці тому

    There's another way to solve this that's much easier, which is to shrink the half-circle down to radius 0, which leaves us with a 5 by 5 square. We can do this because the result must be independant of the actual values of r, since it's possible to draw the problem with all restraints given in multiple ways.

  • @obamallama4104
    @obamallama4104 3 місяці тому

    I was fully prepared for this video to somehow use sine and tangent lines, I guess I gotta start doing some actual math problems

  • @pokemnfan1
    @pokemnfan1 6 місяців тому

    It pleases me greatly how many of these puzzles are solved by drawing a right triangle.

  • @timnewton-howes5206
    @timnewton-howes5206 9 місяців тому

    I like this. Seems hard at a glance but really intuitive when you sit down with it

  • @alexeygutikov1263
    @alexeygutikov1263 9 місяців тому

    A reverse problem would look even more sophisticated and exciting.

  • @imsatoboi
    @imsatoboi 2 місяці тому

    Man, if only my teachers in school had this kind of optimism, the reason I started to hate maths was because it seemed like they hated it too much, on top of that we had physical abuse as punishment so yeah , that’s tough. Maybe ill start again, math does sound magical to me.

  • @ricptavares
    @ricptavares 10 місяців тому +18

    I know you don’t have anything saying that x=r, but if you assume that x=r then you would have:
    5^2 + x^2 = 4x^2
    25=3x^2
    X=sqrt(25/3)
    And the area would be given by x*(3x) or 3x^2
    So we have 3*(sqrt(25/3))^2
    That would be 25

    • @AlviStudies
      @AlviStudies 10 місяців тому +6

      you'll probably lose marks in an exam if you assume that even if you get the correct answer

    • @ricptavares
      @ricptavares 10 місяців тому +2

      @@AlviStudiesagree with you

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. You can assume x=r. But in a test you would have to justify that.

  • @alichank
    @alichank 6 місяців тому

    Didn't expect I would make an audible sound when I saw the solution. And I'm not the type of guy who's the best at maths, to put it lightly
    Love your vids!

  • @synchacker25
    @synchacker25 8 місяців тому

    that was honestly so cool. its one of those answers that sneaks up on you!

  • @jothejoker6771
    @jothejoker6771 9 місяців тому +1

    What an elegant answer!

  • @zoyakhadeeja7768
    @zoyakhadeeja7768 6 місяців тому

    Oh this gave me such joy when that solution presented itself!

  • @KatSpicert
    @KatSpicert 9 місяців тому +1

    So basically for anything: when life gives you circles, make triangles.

  • @Anastotte
    @Anastotte 4 місяці тому

    Holy s**t. I was looking at this for so long and just said ‘nope’. Wow I love this channel!!!

  • @brianviktor8212
    @brianviktor8212 8 місяців тому

    I am not sure why I was haunted by this video's recommendation for weeks, but I am glad I watched it. It's nice to know... I expected some derivative or integral calculation instead, whereas the curved line is cosinus, and its x has to be found... where the distance from the starting point of the 5 cm has to fit - and then put it into an equation.

  • @michaellam9819
    @michaellam9819 Місяць тому

    I was a huge STEM kid but moved into Law when I was at Uni. Watching these vids make me miss STEM 😂

  • @trackpadpro
    @trackpadpro 9 місяців тому

    omfg that’s wild. I knew what the steps would be, but didn’t feel like writing it down, so I was thrown for a loop when the equations were the same

  • @ishaansaxena6478
    @ishaansaxena6478 4 місяці тому

    Another method is using tangent-secant relationships:
    We know the relationship between the tangent and secant in the problem is 5^2= x(x+r+r)
    This equals 25 = x^2+ 2rx which is also the area of the rectangle.

  • @ethanhanks200
    @ethanhanks200 5 місяців тому

    seemingly difficult yet clean and simple, nice

  • @Pizzashorts
    @Pizzashorts 9 місяців тому +1

    I swear if this dude was my math teacher I would be willing to get extra homework

  • @hiteshsingh244
    @hiteshsingh244 7 місяців тому

    I am a Biolog Student But love these videos, it checks your ability to breakdown complex problems into simpler and not panic all the time. Great Videos❤❤❤

  • @nurqblhdytllh
    @nurqblhdytllh Рік тому +6

    I've come here because from IG reel 💯

    • @AndyMath
      @AndyMath  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I hope you liked it.

  • @isaiasabinadisosagarcia936
    @isaiasabinadisosagarcia936 Місяць тому

    I got soooo lost. Not because you didn't explain well, it's my thick skull. I'll watch again till I get it

  • @DefpixZ
    @DefpixZ 10 місяців тому +1

    that twisted my brain a bit there but I still got it after

  • @strifera
    @strifera 9 місяців тому +3

    Couldn't you assume the area is the same for any r, set r=0, and then just solve for x^2 where x=5? Something something not to scale. Also, this reminds me of the napkin ring problem, but in 2D.

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 9 місяців тому

      This is very clever!

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 9 місяців тому

      Though I really like this and it leads to some good intuition, I did think of an issue: you can't assume the area will always be the same. In this case it is, so if you find the area for r = 0, you've found it for all valid r, but I can't think of how you'd jump to your initial assumption unless you already figured it out the other way.

    • @strifera
      @strifera 9 місяців тому

      ​@@atrus3823 The way I reason it: You're solving for the area. The radius of the right semicircle isn't given. There is an infinite range of semicircles with an infinite range of radii that have a tangent line that length through that corner (easily provable by the fact that If you draw a line from the corner to any given point the given distance away to the bottom right, you could then construct a semicircle tangent to that line flush with the horizontal line in the problem and then construct a quarter circle and then a rectangle from there). So given you're solving for an area of an infinite range of possible shapes, all the shapes must have the same area, unless we weren't given enough information to solve the problem in the first place. So a semicircle of infinitely small radius must result in the same area. So you can do the simple solve by treating r=0. If all the questions have the same answer, solve the easiest question.

    • @filip14528
      @filip14528 9 місяців тому

      @@atrus3823 I guess you have to assume that there is a solution, ie a number and not an expression that depends on x or r. Since we cant assume any relationship x/r between x and r this would have to be the same for any r arbitrarily close to 0, and also r=0 (?). Ie x/r arbitrarily large.
      Also see the comment by stirdix. I’m really impressed by this setting r=0 idea!

  • @habibimaliq9535
    @habibimaliq9535 6 місяців тому

    I thought it will be harder when we just imagine it. It turns out, it is easier when we try to breakdown every part of it

  • @Matandfun
    @Matandfun 6 місяців тому +1

    Didn’t we were supposed to assume the red line was a tangent line…

  • @GirishManjunathMusic
    @GirishManjunathMusic 9 місяців тому

    So, taking
    r = quarter-circle radius (also side a)
    R = half-circle radius
    side b = r + 2R
    To find: ab
    as the radius to the point of tangency is perpendicular to the tangent, the tangent line and the radius make two legs of a right triangle who's hypotenuse by construction is r + R.
    Thus you get:
    R² + 5² = (R + r)²
    R² + 25 = R² + r² + 2Rr
    Subtracting R² from both sides:
    25 = r² + 2Rr
    taking r common:
    25 = r(r + R)
    But as a = r and b = R + r,
    25 = ab
    Now, ab is the area of the rectangle, which is 25 square units.

  • @ImNaon
    @ImNaon Рік тому +11

    Now I need to know what are the values of x and r 😅

    • @achyutasainath9396
      @achyutasainath9396 Рік тому +3

      i took x=r and got same area . x value sqrt of 25/3

    • @kamaljeetsingh9135
      @kamaljeetsingh9135 11 місяців тому

      @@achyutasainath9396yes

    • @matbronk1
      @matbronk1 10 місяців тому +6

      x and r are not "fixed" to any specific value, but they are bound by 25 = x*x + 2xr
      So any x and r that satisfy this will allow you to draw something similar to the picture.

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 9 місяців тому +1

      Use something like desmos and graph y = 25/2x - x/2. All points on the graph in the (+, +) quadrant are solutions.

  • @lesterdelacruz5088
    @lesterdelacruz5088 9 місяців тому

    Fun for the sake of fun. A lot of us lose this being adults in a rat race. Thank you.

  • @NontoxicRadiation
    @NontoxicRadiation 6 місяців тому

    You don't need algebra to solve this problem. The key is to realize that the problem is under-constrained meaning the relative sizes of the circles can change. If you assume the right circle has radius zero, then the rectangle becomes a square and the side length must be 5cm making the area 25cm^2

  • @wonkygustav4457
    @wonkygustav4457 9 місяців тому

    So popular I come across this problem so frequently apparently

  • @Falling5tar.
    @Falling5tar. 9 місяців тому

    this is genius, I never thought to think of it like this, I feel stupid now.

  • @babuanandh1732
    @babuanandh1732 Місяць тому

    The way you found The answer makes me so happy 😊

  • @Morzo97
    @Morzo97 5 місяців тому

    I miss this. I studied engineering and now working as a Project Manager is cool but I won't ever need to use these skills...

  • @manuelkatsos5104
    @manuelkatsos5104 4 місяці тому

    What an elegant solution BRAVO!!!!

  • @ibsnipingyou
    @ibsnipingyou 9 місяців тому

    Oh wow that was fun! I was looking at the problem before realizing the tangency and thinking more information was needed. A few seconds into the vid cleared that up lol

  • @gaijininja
    @gaijininja 9 місяців тому

    Back in the early 80’s in high school, we would all have written “Undefined” as the answer and moved on. There are no indications other than the word “Rectangle” in the question to indicate anything is actually right angles. (Except the tangent right angle of course.) It was an easy way to get half a mark with a technically correct answer in response to bad diagram construction.

  • @theodoresmith3829
    @theodoresmith3829 7 місяців тому

    He actually said "isn't that cool" after solving this one so you KNOW it's an absolute BANGER

  • @ciufuvictor8566
    @ciufuvictor8566 3 місяці тому

    I knew you really liked it when in got to the "isn't that cool" level

  • @Stigvandr
    @Stigvandr 9 місяців тому

    Both x and r can vary between 0 and 5.
    When x = 5, r = 0.
    When r = 5, x = 5*((sqrt(2)-1), approx. 2,08.
    If x = r, => x = r = 5/sqrt(3), approx. 2,89.
    Pretty exiting stuff.

  • @Stainbeard
    @Stainbeard 9 місяців тому

    This is the definition of trust the process

  • @phungpham1725
    @phungpham1725 7 місяців тому

    By using tangent theorem: sq 5= x.(x+2r) = area of the rectangle
    Area= 25 sq units

  • @Virtuanix
    @Virtuanix 3 місяці тому +2

    Would there be a way to solve this with no evidence whatsoever that (r, 5cm) is a right angle?

  • @pikminman13
    @pikminman13 9 місяців тому

    This is one of those problems where if I bothered to write it down I could get it and I saw all the pieces at the start but didn’t feel like doing it

  • @Nikioko
    @Nikioko 9 місяців тому +1

    OK, we know that the semicircle and the quarter circle have the same radius r. The rectangle has the width 3r and the height r, thus the area 3r².
    According to Pythagoras, (5 cm)² + r² = (2r)² or 25 cm² = 3r², which is already the answer.

    • @gwenrees7594
      @gwenrees7594 9 місяців тому

      You don't know that they have the same radius. Try and solve it without that assumption - it still works! :)

  • @Damontheidk
    @Damontheidk 10 місяців тому +2

    i just eyeballed it and got (5+5/3)x(5-5/4) just from the line

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Your comment is simply the best.

  • @PaulMurrayCanberra
    @PaulMurrayCanberra 7 місяців тому

    It would be interestint to see this parameterised and animated.

  • @kadenkubicz6103
    @kadenkubicz6103 10 місяців тому +2

    I got so close to your solution but didn’t realize that the expansions matched so I ended up finding r=2 and x=sqrt(29)-2 😭

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому

      Hehe. The values of r and x are not determined. You can take any r, there will be an x such that you can constructed a rectangle just like in the figure. That will have area 25.

  • @ryannarby4519
    @ryannarby4519 9 місяців тому

    my man's out here just drawing triangles out of nowhere. I never got to that level of math. The "figure out how to make up a triangle" level.

    • @gavinshawn1106
      @gavinshawn1106 9 місяців тому

      Well to be fair the only reason I cracked was because of the tiny dots so I saw to dots I drew a line and so on

  • @thecrazeecow1682
    @thecrazeecow1682 9 місяців тому

    Looks like the folded over section on a grand piano lid

  • @radonred5996
    @radonred5996 10 місяців тому +1

    I somehow over complicated this question for myself by making the length=3r but still got the answer

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 9 місяців тому +1

      You didn't overcomplicate it. You actually simplified. Haha.

  • @yazlmc4870
    @yazlmc4870 9 місяців тому

    You can do this problem with tangent to the circle theorem too:
    5² = x(x+2r) = x² + 2xr = Area