DIY Bonded Tarp Pullouts
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Here is a tutorial for adding bonded pullouts to your silnylon tarp, no sewing required. I'm adding four pullouts to my Cooke Custom Sewing 8x10 Tundra Tarp.
DISCLAIMER: I have never tried this before nor have I read about anyone else doing this, so I can't comment on how well these pullouts will perform. But my initial tests have been very promising. I've put a fair amount of tension on them and they don't show any signs of separation.
I'll follow up after I've done some actual field tests and report back on how they are holding up after enduring several trips and storms.
Adding pullouts to my tarp as you did is something that I have wanted to do. Your instructions made it easy. Thanks.
Great tutorial dude. Couple of things you might consider for protecting those tie outs: 1. Use a foot or so of shockcord to act as tensioners and add a little softness to the breeze on your tarp. 2. Instead of having the grosgrain vertically underneath, try it sideways. Love your idea bro. Btw I was brought here by a hammockforums member. My method of camping may not be the lightest option, but with all us helpful guys over there on the forum, it can be the most comfy nights outside.
Looks like your tarp had numerous tie outs around the sides, etc. But the add ons that you made really changed the potential of the tarp. That additional head room was great! Excellent video, my friend!
Thank you. So far they are holding up very well. Most manufacturers don't do pullouts because they are a pain in the ass to sew on. But I bet they could do a much better job with this idea than I did and it probably wouldn't be too tough to manufacture.
As a NEW to Hammock camping and only taking the bare needs. With many hours of video watching, you sir are far above and beyond ALL others in all aspects of clear and very informative information. Keep up the great video work don't change a thing in your format. You'll soon have a large following as Dave C, has. Your DIY's, reviews and comparisons of gear are professional and done with commonsense! That my friend is a rarity.
Thanks for the tips. Shockcord tensioners are also handy to reduce sag.
I have long been intrigued by hammock camping and maybe one day I'll try it. But I have invested a lot of money in some great ground gear, so I'm not quite ready to invest in a hammock setup yet. But it looks really fun.
I think I'll make a DIY hammock this summer, rig a sleeping bag for a UQ, and use another bag as a TQ and give it a go just to see if I like it. Cheers.
so how did this pull-out bonding end up holding in the wild? is it strong enough for pulling the tarps tight over time? and how'd you do with hammocking? i got some setups i could trade for some other stuff if you were interested, hatchets and such are my request
Nice, I have used duct tape and tarp clamps, not as pretty as this. This seems like a really great idea. Thank you for sharing
very interesting idea. I use alot of tarps at home for shade. I will try that.
Great DIY instruction vid. Another idea for a stronger no-sew pullout might be to install them from the inside with the pullout tab coming through a slit in the tarp. It would be stronger but no turning back with the permanent cuts in the tarp then. You might like to try that with a scrap piece of silnylon to try it.
That's a good idea. I wasn't sure if my method would work, and in case it failed, i didn't want to damage the tarp in any way. But I do think you could get a stronger joint with your method.
@@ColoradoCamper I don't agree. When you cut that slit, each end of that slit will have greater stress on it then the middle of the slit. This increases the chance that's the fabric tears. It's better to have the patch tear send the original tarp.
Well done. Nice touch with the wax paper!
Awesome tutorial,thanks a lot.I will definitely be doing this to my 13x10 Aquaquest tarp.
U did a fine job sir. If i lived ur way id pay u to do my 4 tarps! The manufacturers shud heed ur guidance. Thank u for sharing ur innovation.
So far they are holding up flawlessly through moderate rain and breeze. I'd like to test it in really windy conditions before concluding for sure though. I need to set it up in the yard the next time a good storm rolls in.
@dcordry Thanks for the kind words. Yes the main reason I went with this tarp is the tie outs all over the perimeter and on the ridge line. With these pullouts added it would tough to find a more versatile tarp. Let's just hope they stand up over time, but so far they look promising.
Your design is very similar to the tarp I made. Knowing that silicone is not a structural glue, I sewed my tie outs on.. A hot sun or too much tension will start to pull the tie outs off. I also cut my fabric and nylon rope with an electric wood burning tool so all my edges are clean. Nice job.
+Craig Lenhard My hope was that roughing up the surfaces with sand paper would add some strength to the glued joint. But I agree that sewing them on is the best option if you have the patience for it.
Yeah a hot knife would have made the process easier and and left cleaner edges. Good idea!
Nice video. Your gents' opinion please, if this question is not too late at + a year... would epoxy glue work as well? Advice is very much appreciated.
Epoxy would probably create a stronger bond over silicone but would likely result in hard patches which might lead to cracking and cracking could lead to tears or leaking. I assume you roll up or fold the tarp so cracking will happen. The silicon is flexible but not as strong as a patch that is sewn which adds a mechanical connection that will withstand strong winds.
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciated. I just throw mine into a stuff sack. I got the epoxy idea from another channel that just glues webbing directly onto the tarp. I've never used tarp clips so I'm not sure how well they work. I've been using marbles underneath. I've been debating epoxy, rubber cement and contact cement. I think I'm going to try your idea though. Thanks for the advice :)
BTW, what do you use for the seam to avoid leaks where you sew?
Thank you for the kind words - too kind really. Hammock camping is intriguing to me and I'd love to give it a try sometime. Maybe I'll blow next year's tax return on a setup. Cheers!
Good tip, never thought of that for my tarps
Using a modification of this for a project I'm working on right now, thanks so much! I'll give you a shoutout on my video
I know this is old but, I figured I would add some information that other people might find helpful.
You should look into using lexel brand adhesive. It is similar to silicon times 10. It is stickier, it is a lot more durable, and it even adheres to wet surfaces so it's good to have in your pack for emergencies.
Now, the ultimate adhesive for this kind of situation is contact cement.
finally, I am curious as to why you didn't at least sew the strap to the patch. that could easily be done on a sewing machine.
Maybe he does not have a sewing machine. Maybe he has one but uses it so seldom that it takes a long time to get into it.
The webiste from Lexel says: Lexel doesn’t perform well with rubber or silicone materials. I would not use it on SilNylons.
Like it, I may add some to my creations 🤘
Excellent advice / idea! (why dont the manufacturers do this??). Excellent presentation! Thanks
Great idea and fantastic tutorial! I wonder how the silicone will hold up to the heat and cold. I'm sure you'll probably have to re-apply the silicone or redo some of the pull outs after each season. Even so, it's just a little work for having more options and comfort in your set up.
@wawhiker As far as I know, I've never seen this technique either. I'm really hoping they hold up well because they are so much easier than sewing. If they do prove to last they would be very handy, especially for you hammock campers since a lot of those hammock tarps don't have pullouts and they really give you a lot more room underneath.
Nice work. Did they hold over time?
Thanks for sharing dude and I wouldn't say its not a big deal, very helpful! I just don't wanna sand my tarp haha :') but I really don't think it's avoidable, I totally appreciate why it's done though. Fortunately the tarps relatively cheap but I hate wasting such a good thing and any plastic at that...it's not even wasting, it'll work fine, I'm just too protective haha
I put on enough silicone sealer such that moisture can't really get in through that slit. I think you want to have your ridge line and corners reinforced with stitching because as you said, they experience a lot of tension. These pullouts only have a little tension, they are not meant to be structural.
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I really appreciate that and I will let you know if (when) I have questions about hammocking. Cheers.
Great job on the mod..
Love it! I'll have to try this.
Based on the temperature rating the silicone should perform well in hot and cold conditions, but time will tell.
Really professional video there
What a great idea. I'm preparing to make a sil nylon square tarp, and noticing your multiple tie outs along the ridge, corners, etc, I'm wondering if the whole thing could be set up this way. I suppose it would probably be too much tension. Have you had any issues with moisture getting in where the fabric comes out of the slit? Really nice presentation, not to mention it looks like you're well set up on the brewing front, too. Camping and beer. Two great tastes that go great together.
looks good!!
Unfortunately I had one of them rip off when I had 3-4 inches of wet snow one night. I just re-applied it, and the others are doing fine. I was bummed about having one tear off, but then again that's a pretty extreme load.
Just stumbled across your cool, DIY silicone tieout, video. How have they worked out over the long term?? Looked for an update on your channel but didn't see any follow up comments. Are you still using the tarp?? How have the tie outs worked?? After a year or two, are they still holding tight?? Thanks for the cool DIY... Nice job. Best wishes.... Ax
Hello. A few years ago I was using the tarp and had about 2 inches of heavy, wt snow fall overnight. It caused one of the tieouts to pull off. So I went back and reinforced all of them with stitching, and haven't had a problem since.
Thanks for the update. Sounds like a pretty good hack for tarp use in any case. Lots of regular tie-outs and/or grommets could pull out under that kind of weight, not to mention wind. Thanks again for the hack and the follow up... best wishes..... Ax
@roggerfrogger2 I appreciate that. Thanks!
Maybe you should try shock cord instead of the cord that you are using, the stretch factor will help with wind gust's and maybe eliminate s around the loop.ome of the pulling apart
+slimjim! I agree that shock cord works well for tarp pullouts.
You don't want to use shock cord - it simply allows the panel to distort and increases wind load. In fact you want to use a dyneema or spectra guy to minimise stretch in the system. I got this from one of the most experienced tent designers in the industry.
What's the verdict after a summer of field testing? I really like the idea!
How did the pull outs do since you fixed them on, ie long term, have any of them started to lift yet, Ken
nice video
Any update on how these have held up?
Why were you against sewing them and sealing the seam?
Sewing them on in the middle of the large tarp panels would have been a pain. I'd probably have to do it by hand as my sewing machine skills aren't up to it. Though they would have certainly made a stronger pullout if they were sewn and sealed. The idea in this video was to provide a simple method that doesn't necessitate sewing.
ColoradoCamper You could still sew them later, and then add a little adhesive to seal the stitches. ;)
tyomen I actually had one of the pullouts rip off when I had the tarp pitched and got 4" of heavy wet snow. I never intended for the pullouts to withstand that kind of loading. So I did exactly what you suggested - sewed it and applied more silicone to seal the seam. Cheers.
ColoradoCamper 4" snow is more than I expected. Not too disappointing. Thanks for the update.
+ColoradoCamper Thanks for following up - I logged in to ask how they held up. I'll probably sew mine but everything else will be the same.
Sounds good dude. Btw I can get a setup for you for less than $50, 15 if you use your pad for bottom insul for 3 season use. It's pretty simple really. Shoot me another message on here if you're interested an ill help you get set up for summer.
what if you just cup a small stone through the inside so you can tie a knot onto it from the outside lol
TOO COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE. Might as well just buy a tarp with "pullouts."
It's an interesting mod for any shelter that might need improvement so worth sharing publicly.
Many people get joy out of making stuff themselves, money has nothing to do with it.
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