GBD remember Colorado did have the board of regents meeting about a month ago. So that does make sense to what the Arizona President is possibly hinting at if the Big 12 got Colorado and Arizona, it would be the end of the Pac
I do expect Arizona and Colorado to join the Big 12, not sure any other PAC school does. John Wilner of The Mercury News said Fox is NOT interested in any other city in the PAC outside of LA and they own that now with USC/UCLA in the B1G. The sole reason the PAC is falling apart is because nearly all CFB TV viewers live in other time zones. There are simply not enough people watch CFB in any city or state in the PAC other than LA & even that isn't a huge CFB TV market. The PAC as we know it is no more, they are the only ones who don't see that. The Big 12 is expanding to improve their situation, so adding teams that networks don't want, doesn't make sense.
This guy really spews out the BS like anyone who's in the know would tell him anything😅. But I like this dude because he has a passion for college football. I am a fan of him and a subscriber!
Thank you for leaving your legacy here for us. You are still 5 moves ahead of everybody else even though you are sadly not with us. GBD is still the King.
If they go with Apple + and 100% streaming, based on the production values currently with Major League Soccer, the only way you'll be able to sit through Pac 12 games is with the team's Radio option!! The MLS Pregame is an absolute joke. They talk about everything but Soccer for most of it, then speed through a few games at the end....and nearly 15 minutes of commercials in a 30 minute show. The play-by-play during the games has many of these commentators comparing MLS with English Football. Others seem to be lost, like they are watching the game for the first time. This is what awaits the Pac 12 😂
Gold and Blue Dude keep these videos coming about the PAC 12. These are your best videos yet. I can see team’s jumping ship. I think it’s Arizona and Colorado.
Three (3) yrs. of bad recruiting will tank a team and in the P12 case, the entire conf.. How long would it take for P12 schools to recover from 3 bad years of recruiting? If this is the case, the next media deal might be closer to G5 conf. money because of quality of play. And if the P12 schools do stay together and the recruiting does go down the tank, the other conf's. might only offer parcel shares of the money until the P12 school recovers and add value. BIG risk today to mostly or totally streamed coverage regardless of the money and length of contract. Maybe in the future, but not today.
@@stevekelly9509 At this time, the B12 future looks bright and balanced in football and basketball. The P12 future, no one knows. Talking about back filling with an independent and G5 schools, hows the P12 doing even picking up a G5 school or two? By this length of time after UT and OU announced their leaving the B12 had added 4 schools. The P12 might need to take a long, hard look in the mirror instead of still comparing itself to any other conference.
I don't wish the PAC 12 to end, but I would be all for Arizona & Gonzaga to join the Big 12 now. Then let's see what happens. PAC could simply replace Arizona with San Diego State & stay together. The only two schools that would be possibly be meeting with Yormark are Colorado or Arizona. I think its Arizona, because the AZ President has been most vocal.
Even a 3-year media deal with exclusively (or substantial majority) Apple+ (and/or Amazon) would be the death knell to those schools in terms of recruiting. Think about it: If you are a sought-after student athlete who needs exposure to enhance whatever NIL deal they can secure, why would you go to school that necessarily limits their exposure and thus the amount of money they can earn? They wouldn't.
Brett would be playing chess if he was to talk to Apple to have them cover the extra games they’d get from adding the PAC schools. So there tv deal money could go up.
Any type of MAJORITY STREAMING deal, for any length of time is bad for the PAC 12.. The best Pac 12 brands can’t create that much traffic for the average football fan to flip from ESPN/ Fox to Apple or Amazon. The networks (FOX/ESPN/)have enough content to keep viewers tuned in during the major time slots..The USC/UCLA/BYU games will just be as good or better to watch than any PAC 10 game.#getitgang
The best way to do unequal revenue is to allow bowl or playoff revenue to go to the teams that earn it. BTW, thanks for all the shout outs for my prior comments in this video.
Notice Robbins referred to him as "Brett" rather than "Mr. Yormark." So they seem to be on a 1st name basis. I wonder if he calls Kliakoff "George"? Lol
Even if he does, it's all in how he says it. Robbins: "Hi Brett! How are you? Let's do lunch again on Thursday!" 🤩🤩🤩 Robbins: "Hello George. What's the latest?" 🙄🙄🙄
I appreciate you. I know you're just reading the news. But the idea that assistants are leaving schools because of a streaming deal that doesn't exist is the dumbest thing I've heard since Wilmer last spoke.
Video idea: How much is future playoff contention a part of what the schools are thinking? It’s obvious that fewer teams in the league and no USC/UCLA means a MUCH easier path to playoffs. How much money would a playoff/NC win mean for a PAC-12 team and the conference? Would it be enough to compensate for a bad TV deal?
That matters to fans but likely not much to schools. They would still be light years in dollars behind the power two. And an expanded playoff makes it harder for the non elite recruiters to win the Natty because you need multiple wins against elite talent. The Alabama's, Georgia's and Ohio state's will win and likely meet in every title game. And the power two also get that.playoff money also
@goldandblue - I mentioned this in a previous comment when discussing a streaming deal with Apple, Espn and Amazon but if it were just an Apple streaming deal then I could still see a scenario where... Apple could sell a seasonal package regionally to linear local tv stations, while also still being streamed nationally and internationally. This could happen just liken MLB and the NBA and then the channels could sell advertising for that programming. eg. ASU vs Cal being bought by a station in Phoenix and Bay Area the markets. They could also sell a national game of the week (maybe a Friday night) to those same channels regionally. Like you said, this could be just a 3 year deal to see how it works but would enable Apple and the PAC to get another revenue stream out of this.
The problem with that is first Apple will have to pay 300 million for the PAC rights. Then with games on local linear tv no one will watch on Apple in those markets. Very few have Apple and the games on Apple east of the Rockies will have very few viewers as not many watch the PAC to begin with in the east and central parts of the country. This simply won't work financially for Apple.
@@craigkirsch6750 I totally agree with your comments but remember this is just all hypothetical. So my first question is why is Apple buying this? They certainly don't need money. They just announced a $1B investment in producing more theatrical movies. I think Apple is creating name recognition and building a studio network brand, like Fox, Disney etc.. They grabbed MLB game of the week, MLS and now PAC football. They may not have a large viewing audience yet but it grows with each new series, movie and show they introduce. While most are playing checkers Apple is playing chess and the future. They saw an opening and are going after it. They are looking at marketing their network and these sports internationally also. PAC is actually very popular in Asia and football is spreading in to Europe now. It is all about Apple and name recognition. So now domestically, conceptually, they could sell linear single school season packages produced by them. I could certainly see an NBC Sports Bay Area buying the package for Cal and or Stanford. Apple could still use it to advertise on and promote all their other stuff still getting plenty of viewers online. Remember more and more gen z's and gen alpha watch everything on their mobile devices, pads and laptops. This league won't compete against Big10 or SEC ever but this might be another way. No one really knows if this can or will succeed. Remember also, Big10 and SEC games also air on Paramount"+ ESPN+ etc too. Do I want this no. Actually as a Stanford fan I'd like to see them go to the Big10 or go independent but we are entering a whole new global media community.
@@myrhino70 Apple doesn't have the PAC yet and they most likely won't. The PAC isn't signing a deal that is over 50% streaming. Why? Because viewership is atrocious! MLB and MLS on Apple has been a complete disaster. Stanford will not go independent, just too difficult to do.
@@myrhino70 Another roadblock of selling rights locally is the PAC becomes just a regional conference. There has to be at least some linear that is nationwide.
I wouldn't be surprised if the PAC12 is on Apple then it will be an additional package on top of the normal Apple TV streaming service. That way Apple can make even more money by having an up cost however that would mean that even less people would have eyes on the PAC12 then those who subscribe to Apple TV.
Get it Gang: What if the next move of realignment causes a chain reaction (i mean leads within weeks or less than 3 months) of each other? For example: 1. AZ and CU to B12 leads to 2. OR and WA to B10 leads to 3. SDSU, Tulane, and Fesno State to Pac12 or B12, which leads to 4 Florida State to B10/SEC leads to 5. Clemson to SEC leads to 6. PITT, Louisville, to B12 leads to And so on. Just an example.
I think it could start things, but I don't think the ACC is open so FSU, Clemson, et al will have to wait. I would go with #1, leads to #3, leads to #2, leads to #3 again, leads to more PAC to XII, then we wait for 8 schools in the ACC to find landing spots before voting to disband.
One factor that seems to be overlooked, is that whoever the PAC12 signs with, that TV media owns the RIGHTS to PAC12 games. That Media can then sell those games to other outlets on a game-by-game basis, which will get PAC 12 games onto mainstream TV. The big rivalry matchups will make money on linerar TV for that rights owner.
Great show, 100% agree with ya
GBD remember Colorado did have the board of regents meeting about a month ago. So that does make sense to what the Arizona President is possibly hinting at if the Big 12 got Colorado and Arizona, it would be the end of the Pac
I didn’t about that!! Makes it make MORE sense!!
I do expect Arizona and Colorado to join the Big 12, not sure any other PAC school does. John Wilner of The Mercury News said Fox is NOT interested in any other city in the PAC outside of LA and they own that now with USC/UCLA in the B1G. The sole reason the PAC is falling apart is because nearly all CFB TV viewers live in other time zones. There are simply not enough people watch CFB in any city or state in the PAC other than LA & even that isn't a huge CFB TV market.
The PAC as we know it is no more, they are the only ones who don't see that. The Big 12 is expanding to improve their situation, so adding teams that networks don't want, doesn't make sense.
This guy really spews out the BS like anyone who's in the know would tell him anything😅. But I like this dude because he has a passion for college football. I am a fan of him and a subscriber!
Yes, yes and THANK YOU!!👍
No ESPN. No deal. No GOR. Without ESPN there will be no PAC 12.
Thank you for leaving your legacy here for us. You are still 5 moves ahead of everybody else even though you are sadly not with us. GBD is still the King.
If they go with Apple + and 100% streaming, based on the production values currently with Major League Soccer, the only way you'll be able to sit through Pac 12 games is with the team's Radio option!! The MLS Pregame is an absolute joke. They talk about everything but Soccer for most of it, then speed through a few games at the end....and nearly 15 minutes of commercials in a 30 minute show. The play-by-play during the games has many of these commentators comparing MLS with English Football. Others seem to be lost, like they are watching the game for the first time. This is what awaits the Pac 12 😂
Gold and Blue Dude keep these videos coming about the PAC 12. These are your best videos yet. I can see team’s jumping ship. I think it’s Arizona and Colorado.
Three (3) yrs. of bad recruiting will tank a team and in the P12 case, the entire conf.. How long would it take for P12 schools to recover from 3 bad years of recruiting? If this is the case, the next media deal might be closer to G5 conf. money because of quality of play. And if the P12 schools do stay together and the recruiting does go down the tank, the other conf's. might only offer parcel shares of the money until the P12 school recovers and add value. BIG risk today to mostly or totally streamed coverage regardless of the money and length of contract. Maybe in the future, but not today.
Big 12 is nothing more than a g5 conf with their additions
@@stevekelly9509 At this time, the B12 future looks bright and balanced in football and basketball. The P12 future, no one knows. Talking about back filling with an independent and G5 schools, hows the P12 doing even picking up a G5 school or two? By this length of time after UT and OU announced their leaving the B12 had added 4 schools. The P12 might need to take a long, hard look in the mirror instead of still comparing itself to any other conference.
@@stevekelly9509 Then what is going to happen to the Sad Pac?!?
@@stevekelly9509 But the B12 pretty much added the best G5 ascendant teams.
I don't wish the PAC 12 to end, but I would be all for Arizona & Gonzaga to join the Big 12 now. Then let's see what happens. PAC could simply replace Arizona with San Diego State & stay together. The only two schools that would be possibly be meeting with Yormark are Colorado or Arizona. I think its Arizona, because the AZ President has been most vocal.
Other than bb ball gonzaga brings nothing in revenue to the big 12
@@stevekelly9509 Yormark is splitting B12 football and basketball. A brilliant move.
Even a 3-year media deal with exclusively (or substantial majority) Apple+ (and/or Amazon) would be the death knell to those schools in terms of recruiting. Think about it: If you are a sought-after student athlete who needs exposure to enhance whatever NIL deal they can secure, why would you go to school that necessarily limits their exposure and thus the amount of money they can earn? They wouldn't.
They are all afraid to play BYU because the players are older.
Not every team player goes on a 2 year mission.
The two year sabbatical is available to EVERY team.
3 years could be an eternity if the Apple thing turns out to be crap.
Brett would be playing chess if he was to talk to Apple to have them cover the extra games they’d get from adding the PAC schools. So there tv deal money could go up.
ESPN offering 90 million for 5 years or $9 million per team for only 2 games a week.
Any type of MAJORITY STREAMING deal, for any length of time is bad for the PAC 12.. The best Pac 12 brands can’t create that much traffic for the average football fan to flip from ESPN/ Fox to Apple or Amazon.
The networks (FOX/ESPN/)have enough content to keep viewers tuned in during the major time slots..The USC/UCLA/BYU games will just be as good or better to watch than any PAC 10 game.#getitgang
Do ya get the feeling GK is not helping the Pac 12 succeed, but is a total failure as the Pac-12 commissioner?
Like Bowlshitsby in the B12 before him, Kliavkoff is just trying to get to his next paycheck.
The best way to do unequal revenue is to allow bowl or playoff revenue to go to the teams that earn it. BTW, thanks for all the shout outs for my prior comments in this video.
Notice Robbins referred to him as "Brett" rather than "Mr. Yormark." So they seem to be on a 1st name basis. I wonder if he calls Kliakoff "George"? Lol
Even if he does, it's all in how he says it.
Robbins: "Hi Brett! How are you? Let's do lunch again on Thursday!" 🤩🤩🤩
Robbins: "Hello George. What's the latest?" 🙄🙄🙄
Great pick up!!
$210M for Friday Amazon and ESPN PAC after Dark for 3 years. Everything else on PAC Network is my guess.
Michigan will get a lot of recruits from the West!
You better open the vault to draw those recruits to the -20 barren wasteland 3000 miles from home to play in LA once or twice a year. 😂
@@davidaz6622 We only need 5 a year = 👏👏👏
Why ? Michigan program should already be getting those players ,if the players actually wanted to play there
I appreciate you. I know you're just reading the news. But the idea that assistants are leaving schools because of a streaming deal that doesn't exist is the dumbest thing I've heard since Wilmer last spoke.
I saw this article today
Video idea: How much is future playoff contention a part of what the schools are thinking? It’s obvious that fewer teams in the league and no USC/UCLA means a MUCH easier path to playoffs. How much money would a playoff/NC win mean for a PAC-12 team and the conference? Would it be enough to compensate for a bad TV deal?
That matters to fans but likely not much to schools. They would still be light years in dollars behind the power two. And an expanded playoff makes it harder for the non elite recruiters to win the Natty because you need multiple wins against elite talent. The Alabama's, Georgia's and Ohio state's will win and likely meet in every title game. And the power two also get that.playoff money also
If UCLA stayed in the Pac, it would still be an easy path to playoffs.
@@lollar not so different from now then.
What a mess the PAC is
IF PAC? Stay together, how many teams will they get in the playoffs? 1? 2 at best and low seeded. At the end of the day the teams are not that good
None ,I would say
@goldandblue - I mentioned this in a previous comment when discussing a streaming deal with Apple, Espn and Amazon but if it were just an Apple streaming deal then I could still see a scenario where... Apple could sell a seasonal package regionally to linear local tv stations, while also still being streamed nationally and internationally. This could happen just liken MLB and the NBA and then the channels could sell advertising for that programming. eg. ASU vs Cal being bought by a station in Phoenix and Bay Area the markets. They could also sell a national game of the week (maybe a Friday night) to those same channels regionally. Like you said, this could be just a 3 year deal to see how it works but would enable Apple and the PAC to get another revenue stream out of this.
The problem with that is first Apple will have to pay 300 million for the PAC rights. Then with games on local linear tv no one will watch on Apple in those markets. Very few have Apple and the games on Apple east of the Rockies will have very few viewers as not many watch the PAC to begin with in the east and central parts of the country. This simply won't work financially for Apple.
@@craigkirsch6750 I totally agree with your comments but remember this is just all hypothetical. So my first question is why is Apple buying this? They certainly don't need money. They just announced a $1B investment in producing more theatrical movies. I think Apple is creating name recognition and building a studio network brand, like Fox, Disney etc.. They grabbed MLB game of the week, MLS and now PAC football. They may not have a large viewing audience yet but it grows with each new series, movie and show they introduce. While most are playing checkers Apple is playing chess and the future. They saw an opening and are going after it. They are looking at marketing their network and these sports internationally also. PAC is actually very popular in Asia and football is spreading in to Europe now. It is all about Apple and name recognition. So now domestically, conceptually, they could sell linear single school season packages produced by them. I could certainly see an NBC Sports Bay Area buying the package for Cal and or Stanford. Apple could still use it to advertise on and promote all their other stuff still getting plenty of viewers online. Remember more and more gen z's and gen alpha watch everything on their mobile devices, pads and laptops. This league won't compete against Big10 or SEC ever but this might be another way. No one really knows if this can or will succeed. Remember also, Big10 and SEC games also air on Paramount"+ ESPN+ etc too. Do I want this no. Actually as a Stanford fan I'd like to see them go to the Big10 or go independent but we are entering a whole new global media community.
@@myrhino70 Apple doesn't have the PAC yet and they most likely won't. The PAC isn't signing a deal that is over 50% streaming. Why? Because viewership is atrocious! MLB and MLS on Apple has been a complete disaster. Stanford will not go independent, just too difficult to do.
@@myrhino70 Another roadblock of selling rights locally is the PAC becomes just a regional conference. There has to be at least some linear that is nationwide.
I wouldn't be surprised if the PAC12 is on Apple then it will be an additional package on top of the normal Apple TV streaming service. That way Apple can make even more money by having an up cost however that would mean that even less people would have eyes on the PAC12 then those who subscribe to Apple TV.
Pac might as well realize they are irrelevant and nothing can up grade the conf .
Get it Gang: What if the next move of realignment causes a chain reaction (i mean leads within weeks or less than 3 months) of each other? For example:
1. AZ and CU to B12 leads to
2. OR and WA to B10 leads to
3. SDSU, Tulane, and Fesno State to Pac12 or B12, which leads to
4 Florida State to B10/SEC leads to
5. Clemson to SEC leads to
6. PITT, Louisville, to B12 leads to
And so on. Just an example.
I think it could start things, but I don't think the ACC is open so FSU, Clemson, et al will have to wait.
I would go with #1, leads to #3, leads to #2, leads to #3 again, leads to more PAC to XII, then we wait for 8 schools in the ACC to find landing spots before voting to disband.
Hit the nail on the head
oSu, Go Pokes!
One factor that seems to be overlooked, is that whoever the PAC12 signs with, that TV media owns the RIGHTS to PAC12 games. That Media can then sell those games to other outlets on a game-by-game basis, which will get PAC 12 games onto mainstream TV. The big rivalry matchups will make money on linerar TV for that rights owner.