Playing Battlefield Firestorm in 2024..

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  • Опубліковано 4 бер 2024
  • Playing Battlefield Firestorm in 2024, nearly 5 years after the Battle Royale mode launched! Right now, Battlefield V is getting record numbers on Steam so there's a chance you can play this mode too. Let's play and see what happens! Leave a LIKE and a comment, thanks for watching.
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  • @Westie
    @Westie  3 місяці тому +171

    Firestorm never got the chance it deserved! Thanks for watching 👍

    • @gerogyzurkov2259
      @gerogyzurkov2259 3 місяці тому +7

      Cause EA completely fumbled BFV. Should of been f2p. Like warzone, but earlier. Would of probably bought wz to the market quicker. Shame.

    • @TheVassilek
      @TheVassilek 3 місяці тому +6

      This Battleroyale was perfect and very balanced, only cheaters broke this game and EA with no support 😢

    • @SmiggyG
      @SmiggyG 3 місяці тому +6

      I loved the simplicity and the classic take. There's still nothing as awesome as the firestorm circle and the destruction. "IF" they do revisit BR in the next Battlefield I hope they carry over what they had here.

    • @spencerstmars4882
      @spencerstmars4882 3 місяці тому +4

      Cause all you streamers went to Warzone cause you all go gaga for anything COD makes, even if it's just a cash grab and the games still suck

    • @mattswank
      @mattswank 3 місяці тому

      My issue with it was horrendous ux and too slow and bulky. I would take mw2 system over this game’s inventory system personally but it was an interesting attempt and enjoyed watching it again briefly for nastolgia hah.

  • @tucker2k4
    @tucker2k4 3 місяці тому +216

    Criterion was done so dirty with how Firestorm was handled. Just a colossal missed opportunity.

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +9

      Agreed!

    • @FUBARguy107
      @FUBARguy107 3 місяці тому +5

      I loved my time on Firestorm. Got my first ever battle royale win on Firestorm. I stink at BR games but I love Battlefield. So I think that made me that much more interested so I played better. I was so sad when they just dropped it.

    • @enjoythelegend
      @enjoythelegend 3 місяці тому +2

      Fuck EA for that, and for many other modes/games they canned just because they can.

    • @lucKyYou-fs8ml
      @lucKyYou-fs8ml 2 місяці тому

      @@enjoythelegend UA-cam has turned Into the whiny grievance blog 🤣🤣

  • @michaelbehrens1179
    @michaelbehrens1179 3 місяці тому +103

    Firestorm was a great map and Dice ditching Battlefield 5 to launch 2042 way to early was a big mistake.

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +10

      They definitely rushed 2042 out the door!

    • @gerogyzurkov2259
      @gerogyzurkov2259 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Westie they had one extra year and yet they still did crunch time.

    • @koruzhuv2.087
      @koruzhuv2.087 Місяць тому

      @@gerogyzurkov2259 and now Bf5 have more players than 2042 and they killed 2042 already.what a joke

  • @Rogue-76
    @Rogue-76 2 місяці тому +9

    firestorm to this day is still the most cinematic battle royal
    edit: also could've been the best and biggest BR ever made but dice was like "eh 2042 better"

  • @iamtomwhitee
    @iamtomwhitee 3 місяці тому +85

    BF5 is just a beautiful Game in General

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +5

      It’s a very sharp looking game 👍

    • @mydog3272
      @mydog3272 3 місяці тому +6

      Honestly. Battlefield V is one of my favorite looking games, Right Next to battlefield 1

  • @djabouty47
    @djabouty47 3 місяці тому +21

    Its funny how WZ looks like it borrowed some aspects from firestorm, like the whole armor plate system and loot rarity...

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +10

      It did! Firestorm was the first BR to implement proper physical armour plates rather than “shield” like Apex and Fortnite 👍

  • @eliasgermer8762
    @eliasgermer8762 3 місяці тому +15

    6:10 I LOVE that it is a delay between the explosion and the sound!

  • @DOBS13
    @DOBS13 3 місяці тому +105

    Firestorm was the best battle royale made, graphically, destruction, tanks, the firestorm itself, immaculate. Its a shame that nobody appreciated it when it came out

    • @kojimayuhay
      @kojimayuhay 3 місяці тому +19

      People appreciated it, the problem was it was a battleroyale that was not free, and it was hidden behind a 70 dollar pay wall

    • @dizzleslaunsen2372
      @dizzleslaunsen2372 3 місяці тому +3

      I’m a battlefield fan and I never heard of this! This is why it failed I don’t know why I never heard of this until now I’ve okay ed so much PubG Fortnite warzone. Oh this would have been so much fun!

    • @DOBS13
      @DOBS13 3 місяці тому

      @kojimayuhay I'm sure I got it free with mine when I bought it? I can't remember ever having to pay separately for it? Might be wrong though

    • @jglez96jg
      @jglez96jg 3 місяці тому +3

      Also first BR that added armor system

    • @ragnar3187
      @ragnar3187 3 місяці тому +1

      thank you

  • @4r391
    @4r391 2 місяці тому +9

    If there's ever a bad decision to be made, EA is there.

  • @matt32187
    @matt32187 3 місяці тому +38

    love the variety of content here lately westie

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +9

      Glad you enjoy it! I’m just playing what I enjoy at the moment 😎👍

    • @jamesmarkus8885
      @jamesmarkus8885 3 місяці тому +2

      They missed the boat here. It should have been free to play. They should release it free to play today.

    • @lovenoothers
      @lovenoothers 2 місяці тому

      @@Westie good for you mate, take care, cheers!

  • @deanb2940
    @deanb2940 3 місяці тому +10

    I would love to see this brought to 2042 portal

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      That would be amazing!

  • @thepopmanbrad
    @thepopmanbrad 3 місяці тому +32

    this is where westie single Handly bring the mode back to life

    • @Roobie-Roo
      @Roobie-Roo 3 місяці тому +7

      JackFrags has also done a video on this, in recent months or so, no one will bring the mode back to life on their own, its more of a team effort between them all.

  • @massivemancomputers
    @massivemancomputers 3 місяці тому +8

    Loved Firestorm. Didn't think anyone would still be playing it, but nice to see!

  • @Jeroen3774
    @Jeroen3774 3 місяці тому +17

    This still looks amazing! Loved the artillery strike in this mode. Fingers crossed for next year's Battlefield 🤞🏻

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +3

      Fingers crossed they do something interesting with destruction again 👍

  • @chrisary7533
    @chrisary7533 3 місяці тому +9

    Bring back firestorm!!! Loved this video..we need a firestorm movement asap

  • @deividasz1029
    @deividasz1029 3 місяці тому +32

    800 hours played in this mode 300+ wins best battle Royal ever 😊

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +5

      You’re a beast!

    • @TheVassilek
      @TheVassilek 3 місяці тому

      ​@@WestieI dont think so i have over 1000 wins 😊😎

    • @SmiggyG
      @SmiggyG 3 місяці тому +9

      So you guys are the reason I don't bother with it..😆😆😆 Have you ever seen the sun or touched grass? 🤪

    • @deividasz1029
      @deividasz1029 3 місяці тому +9

      @@SmiggyG was on COVID time so no one was allowed touch grass anyway 🙄

    • @danielwalsh1289
      @danielwalsh1289 3 місяці тому

      where i'm from you're never allowed to touch grass@@deividasz1029

  • @DreamLabsGaming
    @DreamLabsGaming 3 місяці тому +3

    i played firestorm for at least a year, maybe longer even though there was no new content.. such a great game and many friends and memories made playing it

  • @towersj6132
    @towersj6132 3 місяці тому +7

    Three straight Battlefield videos celebration we are so back 🎉🥳🪅🍾

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +3

      Just playing what I’m enjoying 😎👍

    • @CalvinScores
      @CalvinScores 3 місяці тому

      It's called nostalgia. BFV a million times better than ass42.

  • @ryanpiper7669
    @ryanpiper7669 2 місяці тому

    I started watching your channel for Load outs on battlefield one kind of crazy thinking back how long ago that was

  • @theincorporatedunplugged8743
    @theincorporatedunplugged8743 3 місяці тому +2

    Firestorm is CRIMINALLY underrated. What this world truly and really needs is a good WW2 BR game.

  • @Shano84Mac
    @Shano84Mac 3 місяці тому +4

    Always save the V1's for the smallest point left, make everyone run and panic 👍 😅

  • @iJobama
    @iJobama 3 місяці тому +4

    Does look like a fun mode, even with such a low playercount in the matches it seemed to work and gave for a good watch. Can only imagine how hectic a full lobby of 64 would be. Destruction mechanics are cool too, just how the storm ripped through that building was awesome. Makes the gas in Warzone extremely tame in comparison

  • @Hashashin_
    @Hashashin_ 8 днів тому

    Ok definitely playing this soon, I was reminiscing on this lately whilst playing 2042. Good to see this.

  • @TacticalMoose30
    @TacticalMoose30 3 місяці тому

    The excitement in your voice is what gets me pumped to watch your videos!

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      Haha! I was very excited to actually get a match of Firestorm 😁

  • @gc7099
    @gc7099 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice vid man, if you press Q you can mark enemies

  • @SaltyPelican2218
    @SaltyPelican2218 3 місяці тому +2

    Love the battlefield video I’ve recently went back to battlefield after I got tired of people hacking in call of duty and it’s made so many improvements

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Yeah 2042 and BFV are in much better places now 👍

  • @GhostShotYaDead
    @GhostShotYaDead 3 місяці тому +2

    Appreciate the video. By far my favorite BR of all time.

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ryansbasscovers4413
    @ryansbasscovers4413 2 місяці тому

    I remember skipping a day from high school with my bud to play this update, Very good memory.

  • @Jeremy_LK
    @Jeremy_LK 3 місяці тому +1

    OMG!! Another Westie's video on Battlefield! GOOD DAYS ARE BACK!!!

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      “And for anyone who thought I had left, I never left. Just moved aside for a while.” - Daniel Ricciardo ✌️

  • @DiverseFeiten
    @DiverseFeiten 3 місяці тому +8

    Miss the good old fps games, everything now looks like COD clones with sliding and bunnyhopping around every corner.

  • @GhostWritersParanormalPortal
    @GhostWritersParanormalPortal 2 місяці тому

    I just played it for the first time since launch LOL there was a whopping 4 PEOPLE including myself on that fateful plane. I got one of the three kills and ended up coming second, the guy had 5 HP.. was somehow like reminiscing to the PUBG days. Alot of sitting around and waiting for the damn storm to move. But, this was HARDCORE mode being only 4 people on the massive map. I felt like I was being looked at the whole time like when I play EFT LOL

  • @EarlyPaus
    @EarlyPaus 3 місяці тому

    Love the video

  • @CalvinScores
    @CalvinScores 3 місяці тому +2

    More Firestorm Westie!!!

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      If I can find more matches at the weekends, I’ll post more 👍

  • @HM-pz9et
    @HM-pz9et 3 місяці тому +1

    This was such a grate BR (with its bugs but...) it could've been a great one. I played it so much! you've got everything, BF mechanics, authentic BR, the feeling, the beauty oh! man I miss it so much. Let's not forgot the V1 sound :)

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Couldn't agree more!

  • @superczech6714
    @superczech6714 3 місяці тому

    Finally you played battlefield again!

  • @user-up1ob5mf9z
    @user-up1ob5mf9z 3 місяці тому +1

    hey do u know what song is playing when ur landing, i was wanting to use it for something.

  • @Waldapotheker00011
    @Waldapotheker00011 3 місяці тому +3

    With some little tweaks this game mode could've been great... But just like all of BF5 it was mishandled big time! I think I'm going to look for a round the next days...

  • @alexandermieske797
    @alexandermieske797 3 місяці тому

    That was such a beautiful map. I wish they had made parts of the map Conquest Maps in MP.

  • @lucasstchur5441
    @lucasstchur5441 3 місяці тому

    This is weird, but I sometimes listen to the firestorm reveal trailer when I’m on the stair climber at the gym. It’s a dope trailer😂

  • @DreDay1993
    @DreDay1993 3 місяці тому

    My favorite mode in my favorite Battlefield. Yeah I said it! Such a shame.... Its was so authentic feeling when u won a firestorm match. That feeling when u were all by yourself and saw a squad with a tiger😂

  • @austinfloyd4766
    @austinfloyd4766 3 місяці тому

    I loved this game mode! I hope something like this makes it back into the game

  • @stuartpillar7117
    @stuartpillar7117 3 місяці тому

    I didn't know it was open!! I'm going to be sat waiting now... 👌🤣

  • @christianterrill3503
    @christianterrill3503 3 місяці тому

    I'm amazed you found a match, I try and play once and while and never find a match.

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Weekends around 2pm UK time is when I found these two matches 👍

  • @fully_factcinated5193
    @fully_factcinated5193 3 місяці тому

    Refreshing to see something a bit different!

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Glad you think so 😎👍

  • @tomas6292
    @tomas6292 3 місяці тому +1

    This is THE content we’re here for!

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      🙏🙏🙏

  • @BaxterFinn
    @BaxterFinn 3 місяці тому

    I love the music for Firestorm...

  • @goat-0180
    @goat-0180 3 місяці тому

    ill never forget the release i played it none stop and absolutely loved it. Such a shame they stopped working on it

  • @_TheShowStopper
    @_TheShowStopper 3 місяці тому

    🤘🏾🫡Im def going to try to get in!😏I loved the potential this had! The Map, Even just the wall of flames looked so dope! Add the BF destruction & im all in!

    • @kokaburadidgeridoo3700
      @kokaburadidgeridoo3700 3 місяці тому

      sad there is no community to play this..
      some youtubers could change that occasionally..
      im struggling to find servers allways
      waiting 15min nothing happens

  • @user-up1ob5mf9z
    @user-up1ob5mf9z 3 місяці тому +1

    Know what the music is playing in the background in the beginning landing?

  • @Bigcat726
    @Bigcat726 3 місяці тому +4

    If firestorm was free to play it would’ve had some success instead of being locked behind a paywall with bfv

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah they killed it before it even had a chance being behind that paywall.

  • @stu_pidkant
    @stu_pidkant 2 місяці тому

    Great video and absolutely love firestorm.............. I'm just not very good at it, i mainly play to give other players target practice 🤔

  • @theSpectatorVideos
    @theSpectatorVideos 2 місяці тому +1

    Damn what a missed opportunity. A classic battle royale with the realism and immersion of Firestorm is all I've been waiting for... please Dice, bring it back to life as a free to play version! I'm begging you.

  • @indifilm
    @indifilm 3 місяці тому

    Loved Firestorm! Let us know next time you are going to jump in.

  • @jakehindman8769
    @jakehindman8769 3 місяці тому

    My first battle royal win was on firestorm super fun game mode, sucks it didn’t get traction and support.

  • @EzleRS
    @EzleRS 2 місяці тому

    Flare gun marks enemies on the map if they're inside the circle it also marks on the map (:

  • @shanejohnson2486
    @shanejohnson2486 2 місяці тому

    Feel like they released firestorm and it was super buggy for a while but the biggest killer in firestorm was the general lack of mics used by bf players that has persisted through the series.

  • @edgarguevara99
    @edgarguevara99 3 місяці тому

    This loot system feels like wz2. My first dub in BR was firestorm ❤

  • @charliedottpc
    @charliedottpc 2 місяці тому

    They literally could make this free to play and add support from the devs and the community would be happy, maybe some little adjustments like a way to res your team etc

  • @TheChevmeister
    @TheChevmeister 3 місяці тому +3

    Still the best circle ever

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Yep! Doesn’t get much better than an actual storm of fire destroying everything in its path 🔥

    • @DocRevenant
      @DocRevenant 2 місяці тому

      I agree 100%… firestorm definitely deserved more attention then it got

  • @epgamer1145
    @epgamer1145 3 місяці тому +3

    This mode could have been so good.
    I love how the storm just destroys anything it touches. Make sure you are truly pushed into the next zone.

  • @HORS3MAN5280
    @HORS3MAN5280 3 місяці тому

    I forget this existed, I’ll be playing it later

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      Hope you can find a lobby!

  • @Picknick810
    @Picknick810 3 місяці тому

    Oh man this had so much Potential. If only some key Things had been different

  • @bobbypennington2304
    @bobbypennington2304 3 місяці тому

    Missing the boys on WZ the last few weeks. As usual great content

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Season 2 Reloaded stream tonight 😎✌️

    • @bobbypennington2304
      @bobbypennington2304 3 місяці тому

      @@Westie watched the vod, as I am USA east and miss your lives most of the time. Left a like too

  • @brandonweber9173
    @brandonweber9173 3 місяці тому

    Glad to see you found a tractor! Sad this game didn’t get the live it deserved.

  • @eluv2401
    @eluv2401 3 місяці тому

    I wonder if they added crossplay if it could bring it back a bit. I really liked firestorm. I know they won’t update it to add crossplay, but I can dream.

  • @gerhardtvandermerwe8628
    @gerhardtvandermerwe8628 2 місяці тому

    LOVED this game mode. So sad it didnt get the love it needed from the devs. BF needs to get it right next time round.

  • @user-mi7nw5kt4w
    @user-mi7nw5kt4w 3 місяці тому

    This mode would've succeeded if it was free to play. I really hope they keep the firestorm mechanic for the new battlefield BR, it looked awesome!

  • @theincorporatedunplugged8743
    @theincorporatedunplugged8743 3 місяці тому

    You probably know this already, but did you know you can lean without being behind cover or having to press the ] or [ keys? I believe if you press F while aiming down sights, you can use Q and E to lean left and right. I could be misremembering, but regardless Firestorm all the way!!

  • @mcunner
    @mcunner 2 місяці тому +1

    Why don't they make firestorm free to play now. They could still make something from it a number of years down the line

  • @MaliciousAggravator
    @MaliciousAggravator 2 місяці тому

    Firestorm looks like a BR that I would enjoy.

  • @srimpy123
    @srimpy123 2 місяці тому

    I got an dub once on firestorm it was an huge missed opportunity

  • @snpdmz
    @snpdmz 3 місяці тому +3

    one of the best games ever love BFV

  • @muaaz7072
    @muaaz7072 3 місяці тому

    Such potential

  • @mydog3272
    @mydog3272 3 місяці тому

    I actually kinda enjoyed firestorm whenever it came out. I wasn’t really a big battle royale person so it was an “introduction” for me

    • @mydog3272
      @mydog3272 3 місяці тому

      I’m also on Xbox so I’m sure there is no servers up even if I wanna play lol

  • @aminetinda8883
    @aminetinda8883 3 місяці тому +1

    Favourite game ❤

  • @marcomunoz1146
    @marcomunoz1146 3 місяці тому

    Maybe in an alternate universe Firestorm is today’s Warzone. A man can only dream

  • @DiverseFeiten
    @DiverseFeiten 3 місяці тому +4

    Sick, First btw!

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      Legend!

  • @jeremywright7258
    @jeremywright7258 3 місяці тому

    The flare gun it’s like a UAV when you shoot it in air 2:44

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Cheers!

  • @mrnobodylikesyou_
    @mrnobodylikesyou_ 3 місяці тому

    I hope they will make an update. Or maybe it will be a next Battlefield BR(Warzone)but exactly with this idea of WW1-WW2 . I hope so. 😊

  • @dennyhamlingaming
    @dennyhamlingaming 3 місяці тому

    I watched jackfrags play it seemed like he enjoyed it

  • @elway2k
    @elway2k 15 днів тому +1

    Great game!! Wish they would have stuck with it.

  • @wilddude1710
    @wilddude1710 2 місяці тому

    Simply BEST looking game and best looking battle royale game ever made. One of the reasons why there's a small amount of players , is because it costs money and 8-10 y.o PUBG and Fortnite players don't have it

  • @Hurtn4aSquirtn11
    @Hurtn4aSquirtn11 3 місяці тому

    The game could of realy been something, I was pumped for it when it came out.

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah same here! Real shame they didn’t give it more of a go.

  • @tunafishsam
    @tunafishsam 2 місяці тому

    I've been trying here and there for months now... I can never find a game. I only played firestorm once... I really want to put quality time in fs but there's just no players in my region... 😢

  • @CodeUK93
    @CodeUK93 3 місяці тому

    I quite liked firestorm it was cool if it ever actually comes back I’ll do it again but every time I try on Xbox it’s jus dead

  • @epgamer1145
    @epgamer1145 3 місяці тому

    We just gotta call a ton of players to this mode for a few days.

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Would be amazing to see it thrive again for a while 👍

  • @tater_relocater
    @tater_relocater 3 місяці тому

    Firestorm got me into games, lasted longer than 2 months.
    Ask tbm

  • @TJEader
    @TJEader 2 місяці тому

    great game!! wish they would of gave it more of chance!

  • @brvdy
    @brvdy 3 місяці тому

    I don't like BR, but Firestorm was kinda fun even though I only got to play it 2 or 3 times. Even from when it released it was DOA in Australia... Plus it got overshadowed by Blackout at the time on Bo4, which that itself was fun, and still the better Cod BR than Warzone... Honestly if you wanna play more BRs give Blackout a shot.. If there are players on PC Firestorm there surely would be a lobby on PC Black Ops 4 Blackout.

  • @alekkkkkk
    @alekkkkkk 3 місяці тому

    My first battle royal, i felt in love with this map, this game got too much hate , imagine how this battle royal could be good and BF mutlillayer with eastern front , d day, italy etc. 😢

  • @chadgrov
    @chadgrov 3 місяці тому

    I got 2nd once in firestorm 😂 man that feels so long ago. I hate Warzone and Fortnite but this battle royale was awesome. I liked how it was more grounded and realistic instead of pink guns with 120 drum mags and all the goofy crap they do in Warzone.

  • @mrav_81
    @mrav_81 3 місяці тому +1

    How many ppl scream in first two min of video 😂😂 Westie my dude you left best gun in game for worst one 😅😂

  • @Tommy_R
    @Tommy_R 3 місяці тому

    I still love playing Battlefield 5, it's a great game

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      It’s definitely good fun!

  • @gibbonchio
    @gibbonchio 3 місяці тому

    Respect for Firestorm, beautiful mode, beautiful map. I had so much fun playing it... 😭😭

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому +1

      Couldn't agree more 💔

  • @AndrewTurner251
    @AndrewTurner251 2 місяці тому

    I really enjoyed playing BF5. I didn’t care for firestorm, but I don’t enjoy battle royales. If the BF community likes the battle royale gameplay I am good either way. I want people to have fun and play what they like. I like the franchise and want to see it have a lot players.

  • @joshuawoodard6998
    @joshuawoodard6998 Місяць тому

    This mode was fun. I thought it died like a month later. Did it not?

  • @AndyDoodle
    @AndyDoodle 3 місяці тому

    Definitely the best BR map I have played. Massive landscapes, great audio, destruction, etc. if Criterion was given the time they would have fixed a lot of the clucky issues and the sky was the limit

  • @trail_berserker9446
    @trail_berserker9446 3 місяці тому

    Wild that this game looks so much better then 2042

  • @trevorstein5152
    @trevorstein5152 3 місяці тому

    Such a stunning map! It’s really a shame it didn’t pick up steam like Warzone did.

  • @JamesMurray-iq5tz
    @JamesMurray-iq5tz 3 місяці тому

    If firestorm had a way of coming back from a death like warzone i think it would have done a lot better

    • @Westie
      @Westie  3 місяці тому

      Yeah it needed a regain/respawn mechanic. Even a little flag capture or something to respawn teammates would have been cool.