The Greek Gods of Wealth and Poverty | Mythology Explained - Jon Solo
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» 0:00 - Intro
» 1:00 - Sponsor
» 2:11 - The God of Wealth
» 5:00 - The Goddess of Poverty
» 7:32 - Part 1: Poverty vs. Wealth
» 12:03 - Part 2: The Debate
» 14:56 - Part 3: Aftermath
» 18:32 - Analysis
» 19:51 - Wrap-Up
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As far as know, Hades is also a wealth god as he also domains the wealth in deep earth like gems and precious metals
That is correct! AND Hades' name in Rome is Pluton, very similar to Plutus :) Some Romans didn't think that Plutus was a separate deity, but instead believed that he was actually Hades in a different physical form! I really wanted to work that into the script actually but I was struggling with how to do it without disrupting the flow. I'm going to pin this comment so more people see it.
@@JonSolo thanks for the good content, I just learned that there is an actually deity of poverty.. because as far as I have observed, most deities with negative domains either go with death and disease, but poverty itself wasn't documented, maybe because as you have said on the video, they do not want to invite that deity in their life, therefore do not talk or write about the said deity... Which goes to show that ancient Greeks are very suspicious people 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JonSolo hey jon, why don't you do a review of the game Hades? It's amazingly faithful to greek mythology and includes less known aspects of deities such as him being the owner of the gemstones under the earth
I'd like to interpret this story by saying Poverty is what we call both a curse & blessing. Important to remember the word broke means "to be temporarily broken" as poor means "to be permanently broken. Being broke is investing while being poor is spending. Wealth and Poverty wouldn't merely exist without the apple that symbolizes the abundance of forbidden knowledge of the good & ugly it took God to create the universe is 6 days or 6 civilization periods like ten bronze age, the age of Joshua. Anywho poverty is the twin flame to destruction as wealth tends to cloud the minds of self intending people only for them to understand why, for instance you being rich right now could intend only conflicts of interest you'll encounter because you didn't have the good & ugly knowledge of being wealthy vs being abundant. You only become abundant if & only when you want for nothing. The only way you achieve that is when you learn there one in the same.... Poverty is a blessing and curse for the broke man while wealth is a blessing and curse for the rich man and. Vise versa
@jonsolo love the shirt G... Lol this definitely talked about the astrology "behind* Scorpio, it's funny how Plutus is in similar references the planet Pluto interprets about wealth & also death proclaimed by poverty if subject to wealth without worth.
I think the baby, young-man,old-man, reprensentaion of Plutus is interesting. It's like when humanity was new, we only took what we needed so Plutus stayed young, healthy and innocent. As humans invented farming and mining he grew up so he could supply. But as humanity ravaged lands and started wars so they could gain wealth his body became old and beaten. This could also explain why Plutus wishes to reward the honorable and hardworking people, its connected directly to his health.
that's a really interesting analysis!
but hey that's just a theory, a Greek mythology theory.
Thanks for watching!!!
"I dont want to be convinced, even if you are right!"
Humanity really did'nt change at all.
oddly reminiscent of modern times ay?
did’nt?
Speak for your Western Consumerist Capitalist Culture. Do Not Speak On Behalf Of All Cultures & Civilizations Of Humanity ✌💟🌈🦋🦄💚🤩🙃
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That sounds like you are trying to take a jab at conservatives, when Penia's stance on "no free stuff" is a pretty conservative stance.
Being Greek I'll let you in an old proverb about Penia " Πενία τέχνες κατεργάζεται" and in English " Poverty (Penia) invents skills" meaning that when you are poor you need to invent ways to make a living, not always honest. Thank you for your work Jon Solo!!
That’s how thievery was born.
An aged and rather strait-laced aunt of mine who'd spent her life studying the classics once opined that if you took all the bodily function jokes out of Greek and Roman dramas, you'd end up with a group of people standing round on stage, not saying anything and just scratching their arses.
I think you've just confirmed that.
What about the part when I got hit in the eye… nah i guess your right it was a shitty move
It’s been about a year since I’ve watched these vids, and I don’t know why I stopped, this stuff is still so interesting
it's good to have you back!
Same but i only stopped because I'd watched all his videos so I was waiting for a nice backlog to binge watch.
I will never stop, as long as Jon and the Solo Pups exist! Ok, so I'm running a month behind, though I'm slowly catching up.
I refuse to like this comment because of the like total. But same.
It's both comforting and irritating to know that people have been kicking Penia out of their bar for centuries.
Hmm, even with Plutus in my corner, I still wouldn't stop sacrificing to the other gods. All the money in the world means nothing if Demeter and Persephone don't bring the harvest and springtime, if Poseidon floods the world or denies men fish, if you live in a world where Aphrodite refuses to make people fall in love and sex is just a transaction. Revolt is an ugly thing, and all the gods are necessary to make the world stay in balance. Balance is the key.
Thats a correct mentality, but a god like zeus only carea for power and resources. Hes well in character for missing that point. Like father like son i suppose
@@patricklukcy13 No his goal is too preserve the natural order and keep what she just described from ever happening because the gods have had many wars in the past and none were ever in mankind's best interest. Demeter or Hades going rogue would be catastrophic for instance. Imagine a world where you can't grow anything or the souls of the dead can never rest because they can't get into to erebus.
@@Not-Ap Exactly! I think Aristophanes was trying to show how dystopian the world would become if people only valued wealth to the exclusion of everything else. This is something we are seeing in the present, unfortunately.
@@Not-Ap zeus was a coward and ruled with fear and paranoia. He even pulled the same shit as chronos. His attempts to keep balance are swayed at keeping himself and his ilk in power. He isnt interested in natural balance. He is no different than a modern day oil Barren's son that grew up wealthy and has no sense of reality. Zeus blinded another god out of fear of losing his seat. He didn't invite him to Olympus to be equals, he maimed him and then said "that's what you get".
@@patricklukcy13 Well ultimately it doesn't really matter what we as humans would have thought of them living in ancient greece. They are the gods and they can smite us and we can't hurt them. Aristophanes play was a fun what if but ultimately there's nothing we could do to hurt them and they can absolutely hurt us. Zeus was storm God who people prayed to for rain at least initially. Are you gonna get mad at a storm and curse at it as it approaches? What would that do other then make you look foolish? That's what the God's of the ancient world were. Not real beings but human conceptions of natural phenomenon. To fight or shame the "gods" is pointless because your criticizing mother nature itself who ultimately doesn't care one way or another. However if you can sacrifice to the storm or volcano then theoretically it should pacify them (at least in our own heads).
Plutus was depicted on vases as a young man with an abundance of fruits, grains, and nuts.
But especially the nuts. @3:20
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Mythology explained is one of the best series on UA-cam keep up the great videos
I’ve loved Greco Roman mythology most of my life, among other myths of course and I had NO IDEA about these two! Thanks for the consistently awesome content Jon!
I learn something new Every. Single. Time. I come here to your channel ☺️
that's the goal! :) thanks for watching Regina!
Cringe emoji tho, no offense
@@trustyrusty6969 no need to express your opinions,keep them to yourself.
@@phantomotion2561 pretty sure that one can say their opinions if they please, doesn’t mean they always should, but they are allowed
For the better part of 10 years, I lived with Penia. Plutus has come by a few times lately. Definitely more jovial company.
It's scary how good you are at ads. You're probably the only person I don't skip the sponsorship. I'll always watch the first one to be polite but with you I almost always let the sponsorship through. What is this sorcery?
Funny how Jon looks like a sorcerer from an old fable.
@@hackman669 All he needs is a black cape with a purple lining. 😁
@@cleoharper1842 Would a purple magician's with a silver band around it and a matching wand complete the look?🤠
@@hackman669 Woah! Anna Delvey, step aside! There's a new sheriff in town.
I don't see any gods sitting in my chair and doing my job for me; it's just me. lol Though both Plutus and Penia have breathed down my neck in alternating shifts. But, if there's a god and goddess for wealth and poverty, who is the god/goddess of financial stability? Cause I'd really appreciate their visit.
Lol! Me too. Wouldn't we all.
“He blasted a lightning bolt and blinded the poor guy. Just like how I did to anyone in a dark room.” Love the self awareness.
I'm guessing it never crossed anyone's minds to give her offerings and worship her in order to not be poor when she was a God she had to have some kind of God powers I couldn't you make a pack where you worship her and she make sure you always have just enough to get by you'll never be rich but you'll never starve
When you did the lightening flash on the screen my kid yelled at exactly the same time and jumped out of my chair lmao I was like "oh crap! THINGS ARE HAPPENING! ...Oh....um....nevermind" lol
glitch in the matrix! we went 4-dimensional for a second!!
I lean a little more toward Penia. If I ended up getting a windfall, I definitely wouldn't be working a standard job. I'd use that time to create projects that I would've been too broke to attempt before.
My main takeaway of this MUO™ is that fart jokes never get old.
Something about the combination of the words "thunderous farts" always sends me into a fit of laughter lol. I'm immature, sue me. XD
The two sounds playing back-to-back didn't help, either, lol
There's a story about a guy who gets a magic ball of yarn (or string) and when he pulls it he jumps forward in time through his life. He jumps through his life and realizes all he has missed. Where did it come from? The movie Click is based on it weirdly enough but I had seen it once before as a kid in a cartoon about myths and folk tales and it always stuck with me. Love to see if u can find anything on it.
The is Theseus when he fights the Minotaur.
I wonder if this is related to the three fates. This is the only other Greek myth that I know of involving string. This story sounds kind of familiar to me too.
Did this story happen to star Adam Sandler?
I read that is a kid in the children's book of virtues
Dammit, that story’s completely left my mind until now! The story’s name is “The Magic Thread”.
Can you talk about Geryon form Greek Mythology next! 🙃
HEAR ME OUT: I'm kind of on the poverty side here, but the argument is weird because, even if people WERE all rich, you'd still have to work to raise animals for food, and if Poseidon decides to go rogue on you and cause a sea storm, it doesn't matter how much cash you've got when you're drowning. You can't eat gold and rubies, so you need farmers still, and while jewels are pretty to look at, it's kind of one-dimensional compared to actual art. I don't buy into the argument that people will only work for pay, though: in Hinduism, there's this concept called "Dharma", which is one's duty/way/path in life, and when one lives in accord with their Dharma, it means they're doing what their own nature intends them to do, and will therefore experience true joy in their work. I figured out ages ago that my Dharma is other people, which is kind of nebulous in terms of actual jobs, so I'm still working on that, but you can't sit me down with numbers and expect me to be happy, even if being, say, an engineer, would make me more money than being, say, a writing tutor...which is actually my current job. I like my students .It's a rotating cast, but they're good people. Besides, if people like Donald Trump and Elon Musk are rich, I don't want to be rich.
Why not use your wealth to better others then?
When is the last time you saw a wealthy farmer?
@@AdiiraKuro I can't recall. Farm life is tough. I've lived on one as a kid and had to wake up just as early as everyone else and help in the coops, fields, hunt, fish, ect. Most farming is done for your own ends meat and you sell the excess before it goes bad.
@@SeviathTheHumanDrago someone has to do it someone just like you grew your meat and vegetables for you, even though they did it for a job, at the end of the day, someone has to the job
@@princess-hd7io I wasn't complaining?? Personally I'd prefer it everyone could farm for themselves and the markets and such were just for what people couldn't eat for themselves.
Was Plutus merged with Hades by the romans to make Pluto? not only the name is similar, but also Pluto has domain over riches on the ground
I love your videos bro! Im a huge fan of all mythology in general so it warms my heart to watch all of you breakdowns
hey thanks fella! glad you're diggin it :)
The fact Wealth can't see makes complete sense. No matter how much we ask for wealth and do good, some just don't get it
I honestly didn’t know there was a deity to thank for the sudden wealth and a deity to blame poverty on.
Cheers and thankyou so much Jon Solo i really enjoyed this episode of mythology explained. All the stories you've told us are all coming together xo
it's interesting that they depict plutus as a man and penia as a woman.
Back then women didn't really make a lot of money or own many businesses. Also women who were unwed typically became beggars. It says she was ugly, so maybe she was supposed to resemble a spinster who never we'd, hence she could only get pregnant by laying with a ret drunk guy.
It just goes to show you that bodily humor will always be funny no matter what culture it hails from.
"Jon shot first" is the line that guarenteed my subcription.
Usually Zeus is literally screwing over 1 human. In this one Zeus is figuratively screwing over all of humanity.
Getting Plutus a seeing-eye-dog. Maybe that'll help.
Actually kinda surprised that the Greeks didn't have to sacrifice to Penia in order to keep her away.
Its like how people avoid talking about hades and thanatos since just getting their attention could bring their influence into your life .
I really love how the Greek god of wealth comes really similar to the Hindu god of wealth, Kuber. Some differences perhaps. Great episode though.
Honestly I'm really glad I found your channel, one of my top favorites
By all means Jon, don't stop on this stuff please & thank you!
so Hades faked being a kid of Demeter so he can be closer to his wife during spring?
im just saying rocks vs fibrous plants.....not a hard choice definately an upgrade. You can even get creative and weave some sheets to make wiping material. :)
I think the point is that they are using something edible and not reusable as tp
@@janet6421 dont white knight. my comment was all in fun hince the smiley face at the end
I had no idea the thing that would complete my day would be Greek fart jokes
Thank you for all your great content!! :)
Gotta say, I love your videos. Even for stories I am particularly well versed in, you somehow find ways to make them engaging and more enlightening. I'm glad you struck gold with your first three videos. You deserved it!
This was one of the best Messed Up Origins to date. It was so fascinating, I was glued to the screen. Well done Jon
Please do the Greek God paeon! There is a village in Virginia named after him, however he is hardly ever talked about, nor is there much info!
As someone looking at the whole situation I could see penia's point, but as someone living in America, PLEEAAASSSEEEEE DONT LET HIM CONTINUE TO BE BLIND!!! 😫😫
Edited for spelling
Keen minds and resources drive innovation, not the desire to not starve. Penia's point is simply what zeus would want her to say.(ie utter garbage.)
I'm so glad your channel saved you and made you successful. You work hard for your reward.
I really appreciate your commentary around Ancient Greek stories.
Jon, thank you for helping so many people including myself with your videos
**mentions Aristophanes**
Me: Oh hey! We're studying Lysistrata in my intro to narrative theory class right now 😂
Accent on the second syllable: a-ris-TOPH-a-nes.
What If... Hades was King of the Gods instead of Zeus?
Considering how much the social structure of the Olympians is based on the behavior of Greek nobility at the time their culture would have to have been a bit different. The world would likely be a very different place due to the butterfly effect.
For the better or worse
I think Hades is much more like his father then Zeus but I also think he is the way he is because of the domain he rules. If Zeus was Hades position he might be different person.
Hades would mind his own business and just hang out with Persephone.
In a discussion between myself and my protégé we came to this conclusion, The two deities should either partner up or better still get married then those who deserve it, the good people rich he makes them, and she makes the baddies poor ( then the line “the deserving poor” would be very apropos) and then people like me and my family will finally be better off and do not I disagree with her on several points but I still give her a makeover and yeah I’m very good at giving makeovers even though I think of myself as ugly and poor my kids & certain other people would disagree. And then I make her and put her on a blind date with him and I wouldn’t be a literal blind date because he’s no longer blind right but even if he is blind I think he wouldn’t enjoy having a date with somebody who is intelligent and would be willing to look after him and vice versa they’d be probably very apropos‘s together she can be as ice and he can be in a manner of speaking her protector because she probably needs one considering how they portray her although I probably teach her some kick ass moves just to be on the safe side. I’ve done it before the others it should be for others I’m using voice to text and it does not allow me to always put the things that I would wish to say properly I hope this makes sense sometimes I think the goddess lives in my house which I think is very unfair. I won’t go into details but I could prove her wrong that’s how you know she doesn’t exist.
God of wealth reminds me in the looks of Tyche, goddess of luck. In some images she also have a blindfold. And stands over gold. Maybe a video about her?
Giving that this god Plutus us blind I will assume his whole mythos is a foreshadowing for luck among the mortals
The plow joke that you just rolled off without laughing is my favorite🤝
I love these videos I started listening to them when I would sit in the NICU with my daughter holding her just learning new things
Your channel really has restarted my mythology interest thanks Ali do learn so much from your channel
I ddnt even realize I’ve been a subscriber for 3 years now that’s crazy time is flying let’s try to keep this going bro
Doesn’t Hades have power over all the minerals and riches below the earth, Plutus kinda contradicts that
Always immediately click! Love the mythology videos!
Thank you just cleared my doubts for so long
Absolutely love your channel! Thank you for the great work!
I created a lesson plan for a project for college that compared and contrasted Greek and Roman Gods. I love how some gods are similar to others with subtle differences. I took that subtly and created a where's Waldo, mythology edition scavenger hunt. My teacher loved it so much I got raving comments and an A+. Little does she know that some of my research came from your videos.... I didn't take anything specific from your videos, or I would have cited it, but your knowledge is absolutely incomparable. 😏🤫
Jon! Love your videos bro! Always interesting entertaining and insightful
Good stuff man keep it up
Jon: can't believe the amount of fart jokes
me: gues this guy is an ancestor of seth mcfarlin
I have to say your ad transitions are top notch.
Dude I think I needed this video I'm at a hard point in my life right now and I'm honestly grateful thank you
Maybe you should do episodes of the origin of certian words and how they came about meaning they have today from when they were originally used.
I absolutely LOVE your channel. My #1 favorite.
Thank you sir for the information I didn’t even know those gods existed.
so carmillius was starving the whole pantheon and didn't have a care in the world and somehow, he was still considered as a good guy?
Both wealth and poverty has valid arguments, i think like as everything, it lie on a balance between thoses extremes. Pania had a point when she said that if peoples can get wealth without doing anything, why would they do anything? not to mention if good slaves can get rich, why would they stay slaves? but Carmillius had a point when he said peoples desir of richesses make them creative and hard-working. The point here seems to be that being very poor is bad but being very rich is also bad.
Thank you! I was unfamiliar wiht this. Amazing that this discussion between Wealth and Poverty is still a major point of contention between political groups of current times.
Just love your research. I come here to get continuing cultural history.
It’s pretty cool to like a vid and see it going from 5k to 5.1k
Hi Jon, tyvmuch for video🤗
this video has been on y feed for three days straight and wont dissapear when i refresh. now im watching it to see if that chages.
Ready to watch this edit: I know this is going to get lost but I love your vidoes
I appreciate your channel, keep it up
Interesting video. I've recently read Hesiod's Works and Days and find that he practically had the same ideals as Plutus represents. He finds that wealth is having agricultural products during the harvest, and thinks gods should only favour the wise, hardworking and just people. What surprises me, then, is that Hesiod deeply admired Zeus, who directly disagrees with those ideas. Hesiod did know of Plutus, as he mentions him in his Theogony. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
Very interesting!
Watching this after work hits different
Penia and Plutus are both right and I like that Plutus gives wealth to people who deserve it.
One of the first 30 commenters! Your videos are always interesting
Still love that opening tune Jon, never change it lol.
Leave it to Jon to find one of the oldest sources of frat jokes in history! 😂🤣
I think I like Penia. Finally a god I can identify with!
Shit I hang with Penia everyday. I also sometimes call Hades and Osiris cause I’m into death.
Hey. I love this one!
Penia is my girl. She and I have been tight since I was a kid. She is wise. I have worked hard to get by. Some people need the motivation.
4:39 Glad I turned the brightness down on my phone right before you did that. 😂😂 I’m blind enough as it is.
Let’s f**ing go we got a solo video today 😤
Loving the beard!
Do a video on the chaos gods
Bro these are so cool
Awesome and cool!
FYI, the oldest joke in written records is a fart joke in Sumerian it states, "Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband’s lap.” It's from 1900 BCE. Just saw your opening line and thought I'd add this in before I continue. If you remarked on that, please forgive my jumpstart response.
I really like your new look.
loving da beard !!
This one was good af
I've never heard of these two. Wow!
Your muscles are so mesmerizing and they look better every video. Please someone tell me im not the only one being mesmerized
i absolutely love your video♥️♥️
I'm surprised this has so little views so far!? I hope that changes soon for you! May you have wealth and health and love and success! God bless you! :)