Parasocial Relationships In Rap
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- The dynamic between rap fans and rappers is one that's always very interesting and dictates a lot of what happens in the music industry. In this video I talk about this relationship and a lot of what comes with it. #rap #hiphop #drake #kendricklamar #nbayoungboy #lildurk
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its so funny how men like to act like they’re above stanning and being parasocial, like sports fans don’t literally being flipping over their cars and setting things on fire bc they’re favorite sports team lost 😭
Honestly Ur right it's one of the reasons I don't watch sports alot, I love sports especially basketball but their fans are sometimes psychopathic
Anyone that doesn’t agree that this is an everyone issue prolly has a parasocial relationship 😂
@@Itsjettondon05 obviously it’s an everybody issue but men specifically try to act like they’re above this type of behavior or that it’s only exclusive to women and young girls
@@ceeitrus I’m not on Twitter that much so I don’t see that lmao. I don’t think u lying tho, that does sound like something some of us males would say 😭
Literally the amount of videos of men killing a television bc of a foot ball game 😭
Idk man, Kendrick is my personal BFF, we play Minecraft with Baby Keem every Sunday.
HEEEEE’S BABY KEEM 😂
This how them people who be on Kai cenat shmeat be 😂
I'm glad you're speaking on this topic, parasocial relationships are getting scary......
I don't really care to dig deep into the lives of my favorite artists, but the information is kinda in your face nowadays so it's difficult to not engage with said information, so separate the art from the artist when it's convenient
Nah Doja Cat was right ppl need to get a grip 💀 I think twitter was the start of the modern day dynamic. I remember the whole appeal of being on twitter at one point was the potential chance to get direct attention from your favorite celebrity
Pay you dropped this around 12am 😩 I got school, I'll finish your video once I wake up for school. Currently pausing at the durk vs youngboy segment
This has been uploading since like 7 am😭😭
@@iusedtobepay it was a good video bro great topic!
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@@d.o6356 nahh, this aint it y'all, this aint it^^^
pay you are one of the few young ppl doing true long form content about hip hop and there's def an audience for that, even if the clickbait/short form stuff is getting a lot of views. love to see your growth!
This got me thinking after the Drake Kendrick Beef. The Drake fans mainly where vicious during this battle, bombing live chats and comment sections etc.
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damn where they? 😂 tbh i mostly saw kendrick fans that said drake got bodied but i only watched some reactions and 1-2 other videos about the beef
@@peeron6829 Good question 🤣
Kendrick fans acting like every success of Kendrick relates to them. Then they put their phone down n realize the internet bill is due they only have 1 working light in their house and ain't seen a girl since high school. Get it together. Drake lost the beef that's cool. Can we get a life
This should have more likes! As a self proclaimed “barb” I totally agree with you. It’s okay to pull inspiration from my favorite artists but at the end of the day they don’t even know I exist. Sometimes I’m ashamed to even present myself as a member of a fan base with how ridiculous those people can be.
Bruh I talk about this all the time. Glad you made a video on it
I was just thinking about this earlier today. Us fans talk about this beef as if we actually know these people for real.
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There were always this kind of relatioships but Olheads are kinda right, the rise of social media is the thing that changed everything.
Yea he tried it with comparing ppl riding for their coast that they actually grew up on to riding for rappers they never met. He does this thing in all his videos where he feels the need to take a shot at old heads to prop his generation up
Yeah I agree with social media constantly expanding its changed the game for parasocial relationships where you can have the potential chance of getting noticed by a artist you admire.
Seen the title and immediate thought of Playboi Carti. I love his music too, but the way the vamps be losing it lol
I’m not surprised there are parasocial relationship relationships between people and their favourite rappers. They live vicariously through their lyrics. Listening to the music you enjoy releases dopamine chemicals in the brain, people are emotionally connected to the music that has been the soundtrack to their lives. Some stans take it too far, but I don’t think sports fans are much different from music fans. Sports fans will go buck wild all the time and that’s almost expected but people judge music fans much more harshly.
true, when you think about it it was always like that.
The 60s-90s where wild aswell in that regard.
now you got the internet playing in it and the people think they know the artist as a human even more when in reality they most likely not.
I think its impossible in Media artforms to not form that kind of relationship for some people but social media for sure made it a whole lot easier for people to form one with their artist, i think its mostly a bad thing tho
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Great take
Music fans should be judged as harshly as anyone else.
Just because those guys over there might be bad, doesnt make you any less crazy over here. Idolising a bog standard human being in any context is bad.
This is just a issue fandoms face in general tbh people end up taking things way to personally and roll with it whether you be a music fan or not.
Seeing your growth has been amazing Im glad to have seen it
I really liked this. It was a really insightful video essay. Thank you.
A true voice of reason thru all the chaos
This is a good conversation to have as a society we really got to be aware of who we are fans of especially with all that’s being exposed
U are absolutely right... Glad i find you're channel. One sub... Up!
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i fw this type of video!
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I been getting you on tik tok for years and I gotta say your one of my favorite creators
We now live in an age where for some people they can now literally talk to their God with the possibility of a response lol crazy.
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Parasocial
Definitely understandable. Take Kobe for example, the "Mamba Mentality" is to have the mindset to work hard and dedicate yourself to your craft. Kobe is exemplary of it. A lot of people have learned that from Kobe even though they've never met him. Dissing Kobe/ Mamba mentality is dissing hard work and dedication. The part where people adopt them into their life is because they don't see that in their actual life.
Good video. I definitely agree.
@@cheeseballs9579kinda ironic to put a kobe poster in your girls bedroom but its still pretty cool
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Man I just came from your Kdot/drake video where I left a criticism in the comments. But this one really HIT for me, you’re a clearly a high quality content creator. Subscribed 👌🏼
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Great video
the funny part about the boy who got doxxed by the Barbz is that he plead autism when he was facing backlash like girl you were being nasty dont hide behind your autism
GREAT GREAT GREAT VIDEO AND a DIFF'RENT PERSPECTIVE....
That Michael Jackson edit in the beginning 🤌👨🏾🍳🔥📈
18:45 amen, the amount of dudes from my 45 minutes from NYC suburb school, agony.
Thanks for the video ,very informative. But I have to add something:
There is a difference between being inspired and having a parasocial relationship.
Someone can be inspired to make music or whatever. But you don’t need to have a parasocial relationship. Parasocial means, you have a onesided platonic/romantic etc. realitionship with said star. But you can also just appreciate the art, without knowing or caring who that person is.
I can talk from my experience: I draw manga since I was 3 years old, because I saw sailor moon and it inspired me to draw mangas. But I don’t really care who Naoko Takeuchi is. I wouldn’t call my situation a parasocial relationship but yet still It made me pursue my new found dream of drawing.
I don’t know Kendrick Lamar, but he could just be inspired by listening to Tupac. And that made him create music.
The show swarm on Netflix reminds me of this
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Making fun of dead people is wild 😂💀💀
I think meant,you lied on your deceased mother,I don't think she is making fun of her,and the diss wasn't meant for her.
@@weirdbutnormal2295yeah you’re right. I don’t why people don’t get this.
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Two words, Carti fans
Saying that weirdo "insulted" the barbz queen is wild. That guy actually had mental health issues and was talking about her child. He said disgusting things in general and anyone with some sense would have reported him. It was graphic and scary. Barbz can be wild, but lets not pretend people don't attack that lady. Everyone ignores the harassment and tries to minimize why she gets upset.
I'm sorry but every celebrity gets criticized , Beyonce for sure receives more criticism than Nicki . But did you ever hear her bring someone's dead mother or calling a person Crazy . it's okay to react but not overact . Lol People said horrible things about Beyonce 's child, but she reacted in a discreet way because she's smart and elegant. Even her fans were calm. So sorry but stop defending that Grown ass lady she's been in the game for 15 years . Even Doja has a better character
Idolising someone is something I can’t relate to at all. We all have role models and inspirations, but that should always start at home first with people you know personally. And you should grow out of that in your school years. I could never look up to another human being like that. It’s worse than ever because of polarisation and tribalism in social media. At the heart of the issue it’s an inferiority complex.
Okay love the video, prepare for a novel though 😂 Ill start by saying I have been a Barb since Superbass (me age 12 at the time) and maintain that status as an adult 12 years later (i attend the queens live streams as often as possible 😂). I also like drake but definitely not a hardcore fan, first person shooter is the only song i heard on his last album because i kinda couldnt even be bothered with it tbh. Also like kendrick and have ever since Humble and other classics but yet again couldn’t tell you what his last album was even called. Anyway had to expose myself before others did 😂 As a Barb i definitely have been in heated conversations and arguments with friends family and randoms over Nicki related issues/ rap beefs. I dont agree with everything nicki says or does BUT i respect her right to be a different human being with different views. Have i argued to death with op fans and i have been a sassy pettttty little twink im her defense i wont apologize either. However death threats, doxing and anything else that involves more than verbal or typed arguments is just too far. Like we are human we love these people and at least most of us live in a free ish democracy so we can say what we want to a reasonable extent (obviously minus minority/ religious hate speech and death threats) arguing over who had better raps or who has more scandals is fine. But at least be fair. I have found with the drake/ Kendrick beef kendrick fans are almost like us barbs. I have left comments and had arguments in favor of drake as i thought he won honestly but i also dont deny Kendrick hit hard with Not like us and Meet the grahams (until allegedly it was set up) and i agreed with people on this AND STILL i was being accused of being a drake d rider for thinking he won even know that boy gone against nicki before so 😤 but i dont really care i dont take much to heart anyway. What i do care about though is equality in the sense of 2 things. 1: drake and kendrick both havent proven or disproven anything so why is it that because kendrick has in mosts eyes won why is he absolved of all his allegations and hypocrisy? Thats all i care about both these guys should be sussed or both should drop the allegations or at least get dirtier than they already are and drop receipts. I just dont get it. (I know some barbs are like that too but this takes us to point 2) 2: WHY WAS NICKI THE BULLY WITH BIGFOOT AND THESE GUYS ARE CELEBRATED AHHHH sorry literally had to scream that. Equality. Why is male beef boss and female beef bitchy like just leave 😂 at least with bigfoot nicki basically stated where she got all her information from for her allegations (pardi, future, her ex friend and other industry people) kendricks allegations are based of creepy tweets and people drake hangs around and creepy behavior/ comments(mind you the music industry has a large supply of s offenders but also just creepy people that are not s offenders) and drake’s allegations are based on kendricks own album and the following status of Kendricks fiance for almost a decade and a liked comment. (Not to mention to prove he set up Kendrick he only had one set up line in family matters and he mentions all the items in the cover for meet the grahams… so not strong 😂) regardless i just want consistency with the actual facts not the ones the rappers are telling you but the facts of what is actually before us the audience. And consistency to how we perceive rap through listenability, lyrics and persona not make and female feminine and masculine.
Just to finish off (sorry for the soap opera) i just wanna state why i became a nicki fan (as i think you made us sound tragic 😂) at the ages of 12-16 id find myself at odds with people saying nicki isnt a rapper or shes not talented or she only shakes her ass. They would also say that only Kendrick or eminem. Or jay z were rappers. So I found myself pushing her more and more until i ultimately became a barb 😂 thats how it started but i also cant dent she did help me through a lot of shit and navigating my homophobic town as a gay boy but that started at 16 so not why i became a barb but still a part of it. Anyway my stoned ass needs another. Great video love your stuff just dont take anything i say too harshly thats just how i feel no hate but also too tired to try type nicer 😂❤
Edit: i just hit read more and oml im sorry i shouldnt have had another two anothers ago
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The yb and durk fan wars were hectic 😂😂😂 especially after being the hook
I have a Parasocial relationship with her :(
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After all this is over J Cole is still number 1 imo.. him and Westside boogie (from Compton) are my two favorite rappers.
Bro aint heard about carti fans yet 😭😭😭 he said barbs
They don’t matter as much 😂as
The homie dropped again and I am late. :c
So if you’re not pay anymore, who are you now?
It’s not a great story but I’ll keep it to myself till I hit 50k subs just don’t hold your breath I promise it’s not that interesting
What do you mean RXKNephew isn’t my actual nephew?
kendrick glazers are actually crazy
Not as Drake Bots after losing a rap battle 😂
Pay you need to diss Trap Lore Ross the way Kendrick dissed Drake he's the most parasocial mf around
I really dont have parasocial relationships cause that shit is stupid. Im not gonna waste my time defending someone who doesnt care about and wont ever know
Im currently tryna expound and expand perspectives that links this concept to worldwide tribalistic schisms and dangers being globally weaponized against any and all walks of life when its perpetually vitriolic
16:05 this energy is also evolving in the more violent spectrums of political and ideological warfare on various levels
congrats on 50k my boy, ps u deserve so much more…
The east coast west coast beef wasnt because of biggie. Each coast got dissed before... big and pac even got there.
“DDEIC”
If you were there back then you’re a real one
I always read is name as Iusedtobegay
Parasocializing an artist it's dangerous
womp womp is the modern day yb better on some trolling shit
Nicki has Barbie Dolls and Kendrick has Ken Dolls. 😂 this shht has gotten so outta hand. I was rooting for Drake but Kendrick won when he dropped meet the grahams. And looking back at how things are going on Twitter, Drake was going to lose no matter what he said.
“They make excuses for you cause they hate to see me lit.” -DRAKE
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Nothing much hbu
Make a video on gunnas album and singles flopping. This isn’t talked about enough and goes on hand with this subject because so many people ride for gunna yet he can’t even get a million views in a week on a single and none of his songs have a hundred thousand views on UA-cam in 12 hours.
10:03 - wtf is Drake wearing?😮
Reminds me of KPOP stans. Please relax.
Bro 15:38 in 2020 and 2021 we clowned Durk because bro said “ he slides for ALL his brothas” yet when we call him out on it we’re the bad guy 😂??? Na bro don’t be rappin that tuff k*ller shi if you ain’t really about it that’s why the fans was clowning Durk so hard.
Have to disagree with you when it comes to Pac & Biggie beef. Vibe magazine and Pac made it a coast vs coast beef most ppl on the East still was fans of Pac it was the West coast that more so clicked up not liking Biggie. Shit Biggie even had beef in his hometown with Wu Tang, Nas and others round the same time. Even with that clip of Snoop saying East coast ain’t got love for Dr. Dre and Snoop they are cheering probably not as loud because of relationships in the room at the time
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its messed up how someone is gonna make fun of someone dying. the legends never wanted rap beef to go into some street shit. but all these corny brainrot rappers think its fun to do that shit but they never stop and think how they look and what they’re doing. go listen to the song WTF SMH by nas. he said plotting on another man is wack and i heavily agree with nas rap beef should never go that far just keep it on wax.
Love the content but please stick to your era…I’m 37 and was a teen at the height of pac and biggie…we weren’t riding for artists ppl were riding for their coast. Could’ve been any artists it was about coasts, where we were from, our culture.
Stop reaching it’s ok to just say stans been around but social media made it 20x worse. Not even comparable to 1996 rap beef
I do wonder sometimes if the decline in practicing religion relates to people idolizing these rappers too.
Drake fans believing Kendrick is a Chris Brown is so weird
Kendrick fans believing Drake is a R Kelly is weird
You all sound hypocritical
@@cyrilmatsenhura9010there’s video evidence of Drake being a creep there’s no evidence of Kendrick being a abuser 😂🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@cyrilmatsenhura9010theres proof of it though
bro your videos are good but would be alot better if i wasnt looking in your face while you do them your mic also sounds bad and needs to be mixed just some constructive criticism because i wanna see this channel grow
if you used a different mic with a pop filter on it and a vocal presence eq on it itd be
alot more listenable this is coming from a actual audio engineer
this is a great video nut i think the facecam does you an injustice because im listening without watching and can tell you are using a cheap mic and are holding it in your hand
Bro chill it's not that serious and he will get better overtime he's still small rn
@@kunju7593 im chilling he just needs to hear it bc ppl like you never notice
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Bro thank god you’re saying this. I feel like this is Kendrick fans in a nutshell. Grown ass men are making literal cartoons of other men. Shit is getting extremely weird.