Is the 2024 Toyota GR86 Performance Pack the BEST new sports car to BUY?
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- The GR86 gets upgraded with a performance pack from Toyota for 2024. On the outside you will discover 18in wheels, Brembo brakes and Sachs suspension. On the inside you will be greeted by an 8in infotainment system, 7in digital gauge cluster and sport seats. Under the hood is a 2.4L flat-4 that is mated to a 6-speed automatic gearbox. Is the 2024 Toyota GR86 Performance Pack the BEST new sports car to BUY?
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Does the GR86 not deserve a serious look because it doesn't have 500HP or a 0-60 time in 2.0 secs?
@@RaitisRides In my opinion, I'd rather have fun in a track car over a drag strip car any day. Super speed in a straight line is overrated to me. That ain't real racing. 🫡Joe!!
People heavily over-rate power and 0-60 times today; the GR86 is a fantastic sports car and embodies the original vision that many Japanese auto manufacturers had for the "perfect sports car".
@@EdWoodson.45I’m right there with you brother!
@@SlamTF2very well said!
@@RaitisRides I'm 6'8 and 270 lbs. Will I fit in an 86 or Miata?
228 horsepower with a 6-speed manual is plenty to have fun in a car of that size. My kind of sports car it's like an economical Porsche.
Not really
@@mickeybrumfield764 people who think that is enough power to have fun don’t really know how to have fun
@hpickettz34 it is it has a same styling as 944 968 , long hood with those beautiful fenders , I mean u can't beat this styling
This is not an economical Porsche.. this is an economical gr corolla with half the fun
@@m4rc0_p0l0do let me know what would be more fun. The MSRP on the twins is less than my monthly income, and I have blast on track days. I don't need (track) insurance, I don't worry about anything breaking (it can break ortotal but it won't dent my pocket), I don't do much of prep, consumables are peanuts etc. What am I missing?
A Manual transmission, RWD, 2 door coupe, sports car for under 40k in 2024... there are very few options that all fall within the criteria anymore. This is a perfect daily that is a combination of fun, sporty and affordable.
@@BakalovGaming the Elantra N offers probly a better driving experience for under 40k other than being able to drift.
Wish it had 300ish hp, would be perfect then, its too underpowered to be fun
@@m4rc0_p0l0definitely peppier than the GR, but I still really enjoy a manual gearbox
Except it's just too small for me, was disappointed when I finally got to sit in one... a little too small for a 6'4" 225 lb American
@@gahaha8565 I sure had a blast when I took a friend's GR86 for a few lacks around a track!
It sounded really good when you came back and downshifted. It sounded like somebody cool has arrived!😂🚗
Thanks brother! It did sound good for sure!
I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, we now live in a world where tik tok and instagram have made everyone believe that anything under 500/600 HP is "slow". Being a true car enthusiast isn't just about having the fastest 0-60 time or highest HP number, it's about enjoying the car that you're driving without caring about what others think and this GR86 does exactly that.
We need to move past this mentality that social media has engrained into our brains that everything is slow. It ruins the car community.
This car is mundane..boring and underpowered..grow up
@@jldp24 awe did I hurt your feelings?You must be one of the tik tok racer boys I was talking about. Clown looking ass🤡
@@jldp24😂 Bro. Not every car can be 400+hp. For ICE applications, u NEED vehicles in the 160-300hp range for decent fuel economy when needed. Different engines for different activities. The GR86 is trying to give u a balance with some fun 😊 👍🏽
You are NOT that stoopid. So please grow TF up and stop trolling.
@@kevinsbiscuitsnjelly8193 hey dummy..I didnt mean 400hp and over..its still a crappy car that underwhelms ..you so stuck on 400/500/600hp..it still is a lame car
@@jldp24 Horsepower is not what makes a car fun. Look at a Tesla for example. There is a reason why people pay a huge premium for an e30 BMW M3, because the driving experience is stellar.
Guess what, driving experience is what the GR86 is all about.
The most amazing thing about this car seems to be how fast the scenery changes even though you were driving the speed limit. Especially in the corners. This car, and the Subaru, has long been one of my favorite cars on the market.
I think people have become so accustomed to massive amounts of horsepower from sports cars that 200 to 300 seems slow, when in fact it's a decent amount of horsepower.
cars have also become heavier and heavier, one of the reasons for the manufacturers putting more power in cars.
"to the door panel" scare the hech out of me this time LOL...
Have a '23 in the exact same colour and it is so much fun! Hoping to get some Brembos fitted in the near future!
I'm noticing a trend here. any car that is draped in some kind of grey, it melts Joe's heart😂😂😂 I don't blame him though. that "pavement" colour is gorgeous!
Grey is the way for Joe 😅
Yes, and with bronze wheels…chef’s kiss!
I thought most people called it Gun Metal Grey
I can imagine opening her up through the canyon roads at sundown. Blissful. A car that you can use all of its horsepower and it won't break your bank. I really like this one. 🌄✌️👍
This is the exact car I would get. Color ✅️, manual ✅️, options ✅️. YEP! This is my car of cars! As always great job Joe!
I’ve owned multiple sports cars with double or triple the power of this car, and the GR86 is still one of the most fun cars I’ve ever owned. Love driving it.
Same for me. I’m a car guy. I’ve got experience owning a few different sports cars. I got one of these for my son a few years ago. Wow! I made up reasons to take his car out. So much fun.
Im curious to the list of sports cars youve owned and comparing this to
How is it on gas and costs?
@@shakethedrummer2351 2013 & 2023 vette, 2018 bmw 650, 2020 Camaro Zl1.
@@szn1580 fantastic. I think I was getting mid to high 30’s on fuel. Never had a mechanical problem.
Love this car especially with manual! It's the very definition of FUN. Awesome car thank you Toyota!
I own a 2020 BRZ 6 speed. Some Mods 225 rear wheel horsepower. Most fun car to drive that I have ever owned. Love these cars!!!
Preach
How is it on gas and maintenance? It’s my dream car
@@szn1580 I get 29 mpg on the highway. When I'm really playing 22 mpg. Only oil changes until 60k
@@charliewilliams1474how much you spend on car a month? It looks so fun
Joe, I loved this review. I appreciate the GR86 so much more now! The engine bay is clean and tidy. Where you had me were your lunchboxes in the back. You are an absolute riot! Thanks for the review and the laughs as always.
Always love Joe's vids. This guy is a class act for sure.
You’re funny Joe. When you said that the car engine sounds like a racing video game from the 80s keep up the good work Joe👍🏾😀
I picked mine up a couple months ago with the performance package and it's been absolutely spectacular. So much fun to drive.
Those body braces under the hood to the firewall look like they were pulled off my swingset from 1990. The fact they make a difference is awesome. I LOVE the simplicity of it. Amazing!
We have a 2023 GR86 Premium with the 6 spd that we purchased new. Partially because of your review, Joe. It is as magnificent a car as can be had. It is so incredible quick that it's almost scary, and the handling is top of the line at any price point. It's just an incredible car. Thanks.
Maybe my next car. Thanks for the review
I'm glad they went with a manual hand brake... perfect for drifting..
How did you launch the car then? I'm still struggling to get a good consistent launch in my 86...
I got my GR86 about a month and a half ago, and I absolutely LOVE IT--but not a SINGLE DEALER in the Bay Area was able to get me the Pavement Gray color I wanted with the performance package. There's even a Toyota press release that says the perf package can be installed at a dealer after the fact, but again, none of my local dealers in the know anything about it. Love my car to death still, but hopefully some of y'all have a better experience lol
It makes sense because it isn't electric Joe. Love your channel my man
Amazing review Joe.
I purchased this car six weeks ago and couldn’t be more pleased!
Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍
Raitis commitment to youtube is top tier
How's the rear visibility? The first BRZ I was in it felt like I was looking out a tank slit.
Great review as always! Did you find that the performance package affected ride quality/comfort at all? Thanks.
The best ride quality is with the base BRZ. The GR86 gets jostled around a bit more. I believe the performance pack GR86 is tolerable and the firmest riding of all is the BRZ tS. But none of them are particularly harsh. The BRZ rides much nicer than my Mazda 3 GT.
Put the down payment on my '22 yesterday! She's magnetic grey and has air suspension. Gonna be a blast!
There is a panel on the right side you pull it off and behind the glove box you pull the plug out and it turns off the fake sound.
Love your car video
I can't do it without you!
I'm glad cars like this are still being made! Sure makes me smile. I love the styling, and especially the screen placement. It doesn't stick up like a movie screen. I still prefer the sound of my Camaro, though.
Thinking about getting one of these!! Been a fan of them since the 86 came out.
It's definitely a beautifully designed car. Excellent review as always Raiti! :)
That was a honest review, for a honest driver's car.
Such a Fun car to connect with … my buddy wouldn’t let his FRS go for anything 😂
Yo good video
Thanks brother for letting me share it with you!
It looks the brow lost some weight.. great reviews like always ! 👍🏻👍🏻🙌🏼🙌🏼
I have a 2008 civic si and i have a 2024 gr86 both really fun cars. I switch them both off every fewr days...lol monday through wednsday si thursday through sunday gr86. Best daily drivers.
That’s a proper sports car
Awesome color
Nice design & perfect color
Joe!! Rati's is the #☝️review channel. 😎🚘💯
Thanks Ed for having my back!
These are a blast to drive! 😀
I have a 23 and it's my favorite car ever. It's incredible you can drive a car that handles and looks like it for 30k range. Unreal value. Plus this package is everything that was lacking the brakes being the biggest
How does it drive in the snow?😊😊
Nice looking car. You know when they add power, it will also add huge $$ to price tag.
It's a toyota, it would still be less than $600 a month and only 1k in fee's on day of purchase.
Row through those gears, Joe!
Where can we find the "deep dives" that you mentioned Joe? Love your reviews.
I live near very twisty backroads in Sonoma and Marin counties. I bought the BRZ because I wanted something fun on those roads. If you want to go fast in a straight line this probably isn’t the car for you. But if you want a car that you can fit up to a 6’ 6” surfboard inside and have fun ripping through corners on the way to the beach this will put a smile on your face.
Yes of course & I think I should buy this car.
Sob, watching you drive On Throttle makes me want to go the dealer directly to buy either a red or yellow one. BTW, I think you won’t get a ticket if the cop who stops follows Raiti’s Ride On Throttle Action 👍👍👍🙏🙏
I like how it has Brembo calipers on all four corners, I know some brands *cough bmw m4* that have rear floating brake calipers.
The red Brembos are critical, Joe. While the paint is beautiful, the car has no color pop without that splash of red.
If I went with one it would have to be the TRUENO Edition in that Halo finish, little cars like these are so much fun taking out and just enjoying the experience.
The fact that the GR Performance Exhaust is omitted from the "Performance Pack" is kind of weird
I think it's good, performance package do actually increase handling and braking performance, exhaust doesn't change anything but noise. Exhaust IIRC is 1.8k, PP on premium is 1.5k.
it is great sports, i love how it drives and handles.
Car like this would let you beat the snot out of a track day and have you going home feeling amazing. They allow for such good speed in a corner and exit speed that there's BMW M cars that will have a hard time keeping up when things get technical. A pure drivers car!
Props to Toyota for not "giving up." Nicely done, this looks like affordable FUN!
Love the gr86. Beautiful color
You've perfected the formula
Awesome❤
Thanks for taking the drive with me
hey. can you do 2024 mazda miata manual next please?
Oh I have a good one coming soon for you!
This car looks so fun I may get it next year wish me luck guys 😊
Great job Joe and Steven. How would you compare this to Mazda MX5? I would love to hear your comments. Thanks
The concept was amazing from the begining. The second generation that was renamed to GR86 from GT86, just fixed those minor things that needed to be fixed and now we have the best affordable driver's car! I fuckin' love it and hope to be able to get one in the future❤
as someone who is still in highschool who as of now only driven automatic how much better in terms of driving experience are manual transmissions it has always been a dream of mine to own and drive a stick shift is it a lot harder than driving an auto?
as a 40 year old who's driven every type of gearboxes(manual, cvt, dual clutch and conventional automatic), I can tell you this:
if you crave for energy, engagement and involvement behind the wheel of a sports car, a manual has no rival!, sure, it might have a slightly slower acceleration and if you don't know your ways around a manual, you might also be slower in the twisties or on a track but, and there is a Big But here, on the engagement, interaction and satisfaction lvls, you can't beat a manual, it is simply on a different lvl.
(as a side thought, the more horsepower a car has, the heavier is to drive a manual but also, it is a good differentiator between those who actually know how to drive and those who don't!)
If you enjoy driving, find a manual!, automatics are for pretenders or for commuter cars(driving in traffic), not for driving enjoyment.
wow a lot of it looks easy to work on
Curious to get Lori’s thoughts on the GR86. Is she still a gen 1 owner?
Nope she now has her Bronco Wildtrak
I have one...love it! It's Half a Porsche at half the price!!
GR86 performance pack or BRZ ts?😄
damn i really want one of these.
I seriously might just learn manual just to drive this car. It might just be my first sports car but it seems to match with me so much. I really really appreciate how Toyota is honoring what cars should be: cars. And feeling real. And with some personality =) Thank you, Joe!
You will learn in a week. It's very easy to drive and you just keep getting better with time.
Took me a few months to get the real hang of it. Be sure to turn on hill assist first thing. It prevents you from moving down a hill when letting off the brake. I almost hit someone behind me because I struggled with taking off on a hill.
It’s about the easiest manual box and clutch ever to drive.
@@J_S209 Sweet! Good to know :)
@@WhirlingMusic Thanks for the tip!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂this is more funny than a comedy show, best car reviewer is Joe period!
I just quit my job testing 1200 torque cars 😂 does the 86 still have the oil pan issues?
@raitisrides Any info on retro fitting the performance package on a 23 model?
Nice price compared to a lot of other sports cars.
Especially in today’s market
Definitely great for daily drive!
I had one. Real fun car and a decent daily. It made me wish all sports cars had the filter on top
IDK if Joe is wrong but mine didnt have wireless aundroid auto, it was always plugged in, unless something just changed
What do you drive now?
@@matsudakodo nothing at the moment I am saving for either a Lexus or a Mustang GT
‘“Who the hell wants that??” Well said sir, well said.😂
Does this handle better than Mazda Miata ?
Next time your in Arizona come review my 2024 gr86 in halo !!!
Are there any GR86 Automatic or Manual owners out there who can inform me the long term reliability? I am considering this car to purchase, but i am reading in Forums about Subaru unreliable exploding engine, oil starvation and RTV issues ? How reliable is this beauty?
The engine sounds so good!
I’m so glad that you approve!
Budget porsche love that! 🙌🏻
The GR86 is a fun vehicle! My favorite JDM car is a ‘99 Mitsubishi 3000GT, and this one’s a nice car also.
Man I love the 3000GT
@@RaitisRidesMe too
The BRZ platform is Subaru's version of the FD3S RX-7 but with a NA boxer.
I guess I can sort of see it
I recently purchased a 2024 WRX Premium but I was very tempted by a silver BRZ they had at the Subaru dealership. The basically-unusable backseats is the biggest downside for me but otherwise, it would be such a cool daily.
Went to a Honda dealership in Birmingham yesterday and the Type R's are being marked up to 51k.
Oh oh oh what a feeling. Even my Dad 82' Celica had that feeling. It just got you thru the freeways to where you were going so effortlessly. But I want a 2 seater like this in a hatchback automatic with hybrid electric motors to bring it to 46-48 MPG and would be happy if it was 2 or 3 inch taller so people don't murmur 'mid life crisis' when they see me in it. Heck, I'm OK with 0 to 60 in 6 seconds. My Veloster turbo is 11 years old and I want something like it but updated features. it doesn't exist does it?
Honda is gonna make a new prelude that is gonna be a hybrid its a sport coupe like the preludes from the 80s and 90s though just hondas modern design language. Thats the closest i can think of
@@JacobSmith-wb2tu That's a good response!
People aren't murmuring ___t. No one cares and even if they did what do you care? Enjoy yourself life isn't long enough to live it the way other people want you to.
This car is beautiful
I love that these exist..small, rwd, NA, manual. Now combine all of that, make it smaller and lighter, and add a drop top for thrilling open-air motoring. Miata Is Always The Answer.
Great review Joe. Only one junk i have for gr86 is the tire width, its such a small width tire fitted just like
1990 camry.
So you can get the rear end to come around. More fun!
Tires are cheaper too and would perform better in snow
Joe, where did you get the 0-60 time of 5.4 seconds? Toyota's website says 6.1 seconds.
I think Car and Driver. But they use .3 sec of roll out. B.S. But most put this car 5.4-5.7. Toyota is just being wildly conservative.
@@bearclaw5115 Oh, ok. I'd forgotten that some manufacturers are conservative and some are not.
Like the 90's, you're buying an affordable canvas and you can use the extra cash to tune car.
I like It !
Its a mini 911 !!
Great
More like a mini cayman! It’s so much fun!
may call her as "invert Porche" when you pop the hood to get see an engine