Shoulda bought a TESLA... YouTuber known for 'Anti EV Stance' goes FULL EV
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- Опубліковано 27 січ 2024
- It's the video you have all been waiting for... Well, this is Part 1
The first part of my Tesla Model 3 Long Range Review
Getting to know the car and reacting in real time.
#electriccars #ev #Tesla - Авто та транспорт
PART 2... started with 254 miles range, drove 120 miles, what was left when I handed it back? Find out here. ua-cam.com/video/judZeVdGqE4/v-deo.html
Having owned a Tesla and how excited I was by the acceleration, the expected mileage gets closer to stated once you stop doing 0-60 in 4 seconds coming out of every junction 😂
Need a contactless card to open your car?
Soon be a(n) RFID implant in your hand!
The technicians who work for the dealers, no matter the brand, are not trained to handle the technology in modern gas cars let alone ev's!!! Just ask them. Just Saying
Once you buy your Tesla, you don't need a contactless card to open the doors. It detects your phone as you approach and unlocks. The regenerative braking takes about a day to get used to but when you take your foot off the accelerator, yes the brake lights do come on.
@@stephenbirchall941ua-cam.com/video/nbMl9mRR4LQ/v-deo.htmlsi=p6GoKkyykoTHi6O2
As someone who started driving at the end of the 1970’s when cars were rusty, slow and unreliable, BUT could be mended and kept running with a few tools and a bit of common sense, we could drive, we could open our own doors, stay on the road by using our skills, drift the back end, change a flat tyre fix an exhaust with gum gum and a coat hanger.
I would love to go back to the cars of the 1970’s again and regain the shear enjoyment of driving and the simplicity of cars which made life so good. Back then we knew how to look after ourselves without all these so called driver aids, or government controls as we call them.
Agree with your comment since 2009 we have had a lot of stuff added to cars that is not necessary or needed opening boots ,doors lane assist etc etc (only to bump up the cost of the car ) and how can you not be prosecuted for touching a screen in a car as opposed to a screen on a mobile phone such as (google maps) how were they allowed to install them in cars .
eddiereed5025
Im not sure if you will be surprised but all motor manufacturers add value by loading cars with none essential extras
I learnt to drive in a 2014 Skoda Fabia. Didn't have a screen.
More components = more money😡
Because the Government made sure it was ok
My wife has some physical issues and the self closing boot is a boone for her
Thanks for a great video. Really interesting stuff. The scary amount of connectivity with an obscure HQ is worrying. I have noticed that Tesla drivers are often looking anywhere but the road, now I know why. As you say, those tablet displays should be illegal or inoperable while on the move, and basic controls like fan, door opening etc. should be manually done.
Yes because looking for a specific button or dial to get the temperature is not the same. Operate a sat nav for directions? Or always know where you are going. Use the radio, or perhaps answer your phone?🤔
Most stuff is automatic, hardly need to do anything with it.
@@djtaylorutube if you need to navigate menus to change anything while driving that's got to be the same or worse than using a phone. Wouldn't it be cheaper and no less convenient to have manually angled air vents, fan speed on a button etc. Automation is great but it doesn't know that the passenger wants cool air on their face but the driver doesn't.
@@johnlladron735 Set climate to auto, i've hardly touched it in the last year and if the passenger wants something different, they can do it themselves! :)
This is my question though and it's what is it that is expected to be changed? I don't need to navigate menus while driving, there's nothing to do. Specific examples of something would be helpful and i'll try to explain the options available.
Arguably it's not cheaper to have manual parts and buttons, they have a design cost, a manufacturing cost, shipping cost, inventory cost, stock management cost. If you've not watched Sandy Munro's breakdown of vehicles, they're quite a good perspective on this. Looking at something like the Ioniq centre console alone is absolutely nuts.
Most things you’ll need while driving can be controlled through a press on the right scroll wheel and a voice command. So hands don’t even need to leave the wheel.
A vehicle that is capable of 200mph
will be Lawn Art in a 15 minute city.
It's all a sxam. When they've made enough from this planet resource costing industry, having also got rid of the ICE cars and their garages, they'll pull the rug from EVs too. Horse and carriage here we come.
@@Denise-vn8wzhorses will be illegal due to emissions 😂
Haha great word useage - Funny! 😁
There is a lot of stuff talked about 15 minute cities. It's simply a town planning idea that it makes sense for everyone to be able to access shops, restaurants and work within a 15 minute journey.
@@stephenbirchall941
👆You👆 are woefully uninformed .
I suggest that you stop watching BBC.
Touch screen controls, DANGEROUS! Should not be legal, crazy😜
Hardly need to do anything with it, most things are automatic. 🤷♂️
On the Tesla, when you buy it you set it up as you want and then you don't need to touch the screen. Most controls are needed when driving but, if they are, you just talk to the car. So if I want to zoom in my map, I just say the words.
You are absolutely correct. what about the driver that hasn't had the time or inclination to memorize all the functions? it's a massively dangerous distraction. Far worse than a mobile phone.
@@jonellison9832 I appreciate that it may be perceived to be that way but certainly in the Tesla, once set, there's very little to do, everything is automatic.
I can't say the same from what I've seen from some other cars though and it's not an EV specific thing.
I'm not seeking to be challenging but what functions would you expect someone to need to keep doing?
Not sure about you but I rarely have to touch my screen when driving. And I drive an ICE Merc.
Part 2 should be online tonight too... pending copyright checks for the movie clips i've used...
Ev's have similar cheating software as those diesels with emissions cheating software watched another youtuber explain it the other day , everything a con or an outright lie these days
You know the diesel emissions cheating software well evs have a similar software cheat
Geoff did you check the usb stick in the glovebox for dashcam footage you could make use of? All 6 cameras footage is recorded on that.
Heated steering wheels are a godsend at 5am on a cold and frosty morning.
yes, for wimps!!!!
Gloves
@@TheMentalblockrock😂
You're definitely not Scottish
@@TheMentalblockrock Come up here to scandinavia and try driving a car that has been sitting overnight at -20C.....
That was dead good. Most Informative.
It looks like a pain in the Arse, without even having to charge the thing.
Charging my Tesla is a f*cking pain in the ass i tell you, first i drive to work. At work i park my car. It charges when i am done with my work is fucking FULL. :( I miss my dirty smelly hands that smell like gasoline. I also wish i had to charge every day, but i only have to charge it once a week or week and a half. :( i want to charge more often !!!!!
@@HermanWillems do you need some salt, or do you have enough?
@@mccarthyjohn576 i just hate my electric car.
I imagined how funny if Macmaster had overtook you and glanced over, whilst cursing Teslas and saw you driving!😅
Unlikely...macmaster would be busily engaged searching for a charger because he is a hopeless cause owning an EV.
A electric car that they can turn of themselves if you speed and don’t have the money 💰 in your account to pay the fine instantly 🙄
or if your jabs ain't updated this month!
That can easily be implemented into an ice car too though
🤣🤣@@ibrstellar1080
@@ibrstellar1080 that’s definitely will happen to the cbdc wallet , no jab ur account will be frozen 🥶
@IRVisionPrints correct all new cars are bad news
brake lights will come on during regenerative braking when it reaches a certain level of deceleration. Sometimes you might be behind an electric car wondering why on earth they keep braking, but they aren't touching the brake pedal, just coming off the accelerator
Awesome Sunday night viewing.. Time to go out and get some goodies to eat and enjoy watching this... Who needs S H I T E on the B B C, when we have Geoff driving a milk float.
TV …. As a format is dead…. Gone are the days you sit waiting for a program to start…. On demand entertainment is the way forward…. TV is dead!!!!
Geoff… is the breath of fresh air we ALL NEED!!! Fantastic show!!!
@@1971wizzard Funny thing is I haven't watched any TV or had a TV licence since 2001.. I do the naughty stuff and download what I want... shhhh.
@@1971wizzardTV is on demand -BBC iplayer, itv x, netflix, Amazon prime, Disney plus, all TV companies just available on demand.
Does anyone still watch TV?
I know a young lad I worked with who recently went to prison for killing someone dangerous driving, they used his cars satnav gps even though he wasn't using the in built satnav at the time, they also used his phone gps data, again he wasnt using any google maps or anything as he was just doing a local short journey, the data from both proved he was speeding. He was doing over 60 mph in a 30 so he deserved what he got but it shows how much information they can get from these everyday gadgets. Knowing my phone and satnav on my work van are constantly tracking me has slowed me down a bit.
Dude in my job hit a deer they knew he was speeding because the speedometer locks in place in a crash..
In Europe all new cars are required by law to save the speed the car was driving at during the 30 seconds before an accident.
@@pauld3327This is nothing new, insurance companies were requesting air bag ECU’s from early 2000’s to interrogate them for speed data after accidents
@@pauld3327ADAS will be our nemesis. It’s soon to become always on & most will not be susceptible to driver intervention.
My daughter (company Model Y) was unable to upgrade the firmware. This alone fills me with dread! The tech who came out, yes had the back to front baseball hat. Did the necessary and then did a quick survey. Commented that she had touched the brakes twice in the last year(ish). Had the date and time and commented that he could but wouldn't show what was on all cameras at that time. It's stored somewhere!!! Suggested the regen braking be adjusted so barkes were used!!
Great comment, yes I dread to think what info is stored from these cars
So when Tesla is the only provider of insurance available, if you have an accident the days of porkie pies on the claim form are history.
More buttons More problems
Big Brother's not Just Watching, he's your back seat driver and will spill the beans for a nice charge! MADNESS.
@@GeoffBuysCarsall modern cars. Take a Porsche in for an engine problem and watch them check the history for over-revs
Everything to do with mechanicals cost extra money, so they get more money if they use a button and electrics with a piece of wire
The ironic thing is, cars are more expensive because they've got fancy dash's and touch screens, but it's actually cheaper for the manufacturers to make them
This is true. Nothing to do with EVs, just modern cars. My first experience of a full iPad sized screen was in an ICe XC90 about 6 or 7 years ago
it is true every new car the metal is thinner bolt hollowed out paint thinner and always to meet the new standards but no problem chucking miles of too thin wires for all the new fancy electronics that weight does not seem to matter. almost as if for the last twenty years they have wanted cars to rot away faster.
Whilst this is true, the example of the Model 3 Geoff was driving is of a mechanical door release complete with pull handle...
A Battery Temperature Gauge would help me feel more reassuring just in case of thermal runaway when the kids are trapped in the back!
It is an interesting omission. Nearly all ICE vehicles have at least a water temperature gauge and an oil pressure warning light, if not a gauge. I even had an old Mercedes that had and oil temperature gauge standard and a Kombi with an aftermarket cylinder head temperature gauge. Obviously, this gives the operator valuable information that can prevent failures from occurring. Why is this not the case with EV's?
needs a core meltdown indicator like chernobyl
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Believe me, an EV is full of temperature sensors. :) They just don't display it.
Remind me did that help with the Vauxhall Zafira’s
It doesn`t have cable operated doors so that you burn to death when the battery explodes and you can`t get out of course
You also drown when you skid off into a ditch
There's a manual door release.
And don't live to spill the beans... It's awful - the thought of sitting on all those batteries, heaven knows what it's doing to your Assets!?!
And ICE vehicles are 20 times more likely to go on fire. And you CAN open the doors without electricity
@@SmallWondaAnd yet your happy to sit next to a tub of flammable liquid 😂
When is a car, not a car? answer - when it relies on a computer, and the driver is just another passenger.
I agree with you regarding physical buttons. I've just order a new mazda cx60 which I'll get in march. Although there's loads of tech there's still physical buttons for a/c for car, seats and steering wheel. Nice to see some new cars sticking with what the customer wants.
Do hope that it comes with all the niggles and recalls sorted out, my third one of these has now gone back to the lease company, first one had "sticky steering" needed a new steering rack, been in a dealership some 14 weeks now still waiting for the parts, its replacement never made it to my home, car kept cutting out and dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree, 3rd one delivered early Jan 2024 only to be subject to a recall 2 weeks later for what appears to be a software issue that caused vehicle 2 to not make it to my address, local dealer is talking 6 to 8 weeks to update. Great vehicle when it works but really need to ensure all the recall work has been done prior to accepting delivery.
I love Tesla....Elon, he is Electric Jesus. Robert Llewelyn is also my Hero - He tells me the electric car is the future! He says the energy comes free from the Electricity Pixie.. Minerals are mined from the Tellytubby Garden and smelted with Fairy Dust... and EVs can be made channelling the energy of Happy Thoughts. 😜🤪😝🤪😜
And there was I thinking they ran on unicorn farts and rainbows.
That's the guy that flies around the world to tell us to stop burning stuff, the guy who can't interview anyone because he will never shut up to let them speak...
@@GeoffBuysCars Yes Geoff... THAT one 🤣🤣🤣
@@GeoffBuysCars Robert Llewellyn is a strange choice for an ambassador of battery operated vehicles. He's the least credible, the least believable, and the least endearing person I can think of. Except for Jeremy Corbyn obviously.
Maybe Kryten just likes his own kind.
Hi Geoff, I just watched your latest vlog, brilliant totally agree with everything you've said 👍 I think that the huge Ipad in front is a destruction and dangerous, so why are they allowing these on the road 🤔 keep up the good work mate loving your channel👍👍👍
One of the major selling points for Tesla is the phenomenal acceleration.
Tesla has never told us why it's a good thing to buy an everyday car that can beat a Formula 1 racecar.
Simple! A powerful motor is required for a high degree of regenerative braking and therefore energy recovery.
The other reason (originally) is that Model S was to attract people interested in performance.
Its so they can get to the next charger quicker
@@Tolcarne-jl3yp Next time i'll use a supercharger is in May. Not sure that 0-60 a second or two faster is going to help much there? I'm measuring on a calendar not a stopwatch! 😂
gimble447
The speed of an electric vehicle is the consequence of an electric motor.
All EVs are quick off to accellerate
@@andypicken7848 Not directly. If the motor controller limits the current sent to the motor the torque can be limited as well.
In fact, that may be a workable approach to extend the charge of a battery.
Tesla 0-20mph in 0.2 seconds, then you have to stop accelerating! All cars should now show their 0-20mph figures. Like the MacDonalds adverts, which I always found funny, I like to get my monies worth from ULEZ charges by driving everywhere in FIRST GEAR, I just LOVE the screaming banshee under the bonnet!
I’m seriously thankful you did this! An actual opinion that I respect!
I agree with the iPad in the middle, you can’t go on or look at your mobile, yet you can play with a 12 inch tablet 🤯😂
Geoff in a Tesla is not the real tragedy.
The real tragedy is Geoff having to make his own sandwich. 🤭
Door handles (exterior) are so easy - use the thumb to press the right side, and the other fingers to pull the handle. The 'emergency' indoor handles don't slightly lower the windows to avoid glass/rubber damage. Remember how it beeped when you used it, if you had looked at the screen, it would have warned about its use. While you're driving, most of the things you might need to change (climate control, navigation) are easily changed by voice control. As regards the key card, haven't used mine in ages, the phone app (which you wouldn't have) unlocks the car via bluetooth when you're close enough, so just walk up and open the door (see first comment)
Mine drops the window, that was an update a good while ago.
You can use the touchscreen to change the level of regenerative braking: Touch Controls > Pedals & Steering > Regenerative Braking. Choose from two levels: Standard: Provides the maximum amount of regenerative braking.
Regenerative braking is brilliant in town once used to it. One foot driving. Just have to get used to using the accelerator as a speed reducer/limiter
No you can’t, not anymore. They removed that ability in a recent update. There is a way around it but it means getting some 3rd party buttons to connect to the canbus.
That said, I hated the regen when I first got the car, and now I’m used to it. It was weird getting back in my diesel though.
@@lindseyscott3011 Yes I use it all the time. on my ev6 I have it set to auto and let the car take care of it
Can you turn it off completely?
Geoff buys cars in a Telsa? This must be a very interesting year. I wonder what Morag would say about this video? 😄. Nice one bro, keep up the good work of Car reviews.
Interesting the Tesla electricity stuff. Was walking around on the banks aound Castle Combe racing circuit years ago on a lovely very dry summer day. It has big towers and cables overhead and I had nylon trainers on. The ground was alive. Every step I took sent an electric shock through my trainers. So free electric is deffo a thing.
My Honda Jazz has features you've talked about. I press a button on the steering wheel where my thumb is naturally placed and the output is directly in front of me. The screen thing puzzles me too. I can't legitimately turn my Google map off while driving yet you can mess with a screen to do internal temperature legally. Personally I like my knobs, buttons and handles. The back windows of my Jazz are manual, a feature all cars should have. Car on fire with electric locking doors and open/close windows frightens me hugely.
Thanks for another great video
Do you like your Jazz and what sort of mileage do you get?
@coralice6263 Thanks for your reply.
I've seen how spacious that they are inside, especially with the seats folded down.
I'm surprised that they don't get along a bit better.
@coralice6263 It sounds a bit like my old Mazda 2. Built for a purpose, built for a price, but don't ask for more.
a test drive just gives a snip of the good bits, living with one and the public charging network long term is another thing
i'd like to have one for a whole month really.
MrDead1975
The amount of pollution caused in built up areas where pedestrians are present is the major advantage.
500 EVs being driven around a city will cause less pollution combined than just a single focil fueled vehicle.
EVs are a very major step forward for public health
"focil" - - ROFL
@@andypicken7848step forward for public health and step back for human rights. Considering pollution isn’t a massive problem in this country it seems pointless to force ownership for that. Also, 500:1, doubt it.
@@andypicken7848
Many years ago when Saab developed the EPC Turbo they tested it in London...the air coming out of the exhaust was cleaner than the air going in. In recent tests on the Brown Car Guys chan he found the pollution was WAY higher in a train station than it was at one of London's major roundabouts. 👍🏻
Ev's are ok IF your not having to charge on the public network
EVs are ok if you play golf😎
Or hit a bump and bottom it out, damage the battery and it's written off.
Second comment. I live in Canada in a particular snowy and harsh conditions (such as freezing rain and flash freezing) and I’m seeing right away the problem. For example, the exterior handles would have to be heated and very solid because when the weather seal rubbers stick to the frame, it can become very hard opening a door. Same thing with the wipers and trunk. I’m not convinced at this point.
You can open the doors from your phone if the handles are frozen.
@@michaelleiper Sure but the issue is having enough leverage to pull it. Sometimes we can’t even take the windows down for 10 minutes until it warms up! I guess we can all have remote starters. BTW, I see many people talking about the “gadgets” in EVs but they’re also using that technology with ICE cars.
C.mon Geoff. If you had an I,pod on your dash. You’d be watching Geoff buys cars. #and hit something. lol. Thanks for sharing mate. Love your videos. Upstate New York here
Love your channel. Love that you’ve forgotten you’ve got opposing thumbs to be able to press a button with your thumb and pull with gripping fingers even on a Tesla
Driving this laptop on wheels in 30 years time would be like using Windows 95 now.
That happens now when you go to EV from ICE (ICE is so outdated).
Lowerwick was my main swimming baths when growing up.
My Boys are now 26 and 28 yrs... it only seems like yesterday that I was running them around as you are now, Geoff. 😊👍
I love the audio book format! More please sir!!!
Never fast forwarded through one of your videos.........until now😢
which bits?
@@GeoffBuysCars Most of it.
Just not interested in any electric cars. Now Hydrogen, that's a different thing, but not the way it's being atm.
Same here. I was just disappointed that Tesla hadn't put 'book your first mot' at the end of the menu.
Oh to be seven again, when everything was cool. At forty eight almost everything is shit.
great omment!
As a grumpy 49yo I fully concur 😂
Your brake lights should come on. I have regen kn the ioniq hybrd, i hate it snd always have it set to off as standard. There is 3 levels, dont like any, but ive had the same question, do the breaklights come on when i lift off if regen is active, And the ioniq does activate the brake lights.
Great stuff. Subscribed to your new channel.
Thank you :)
What gets to me is all the crap, like buttons for handles and electric boot lid, they fit that uses you precious battery range.
Electric buttons do not use “precious battery range”
@@TheOriginalCoda They do when they cause a normally manually operated part, like the door latch, boot lid etc., I pad screen must use power.
@@AlexLancashirePersonalView It's not significant enough to eat into the main battery.
The advert on before your clip was for the Vauxhall Electric Corsa... It must be a comfort that the electric car industry is supporting your channel, and wishing to directly attract your viewers :)
Saw a mk1 landrover for sale the other day. Considered it. It was set up as a fire engine so might be useful.
The louder road noise is because the tyre contact pressure is so much higher than a regular car.
Caused by the extra weight. A lot heavier.
Not true, the car he is driving weighs 4,065 lbs - 1844kg
A car without PHYSICAL BUTTONS/KNOBS for heat controls is a dealbreaker for me.
When driving I refuse to take my eyes away from the road. Every car I've owned I've been able to find the heating controls by FEEL alone.
I know how you feel, though there are 2 ways around this; 1. Use the voice command (physical) button and say “set temp to x” or just say “I’m cold”. Or 2. Buy a set of Bluetooth self adhesive buttons (expensive though) that you can program to do ANY of the functions that are buried in the touchscreen, even some functions that are not.
I'm not paying £50,000+ for a car that doesn't have buttons to hack some bluetooth buttons on it when it should have left the factory with it. Even my grandad's mini metro had a user interface leaps and bounds better than this modern crap and that was a rubbish cheap car. @@TheOriginalCoda
@@fremenondesand3896 I agree with the sentiment, but it may be that someone loves the rest of the car and that 'hack' makes it a complete deal for them. No car is perfect, and plenty of hacks exist for every other car on the market.
I am with you Geoff, if using a phone whilst driving is dangerous (which it is) then the amount of functions now on central screens is also dangerous, sold a Volvo XC40 after a couple of months for exactly this reason.
Sat watching this in bed with a Jameson. This will be epic. You have been upgraded.
Good on you for giving it a go. A couple of points:
The brakes do light up when you take your foot off the gas if your slowing down down at a pace similar to a car breaking. Atnight you can see the brake lights lighting up but not during the day. Unlike other EVs, it can't be disabled, but you get used to it.
2) the electric door button drops the window below the seal before it releases the door latch, this is to stop the seal getting worn. The energy release, whuch scts like a traditional lever doesn't drop the window, so Tesla don't recommend using it. For the door handles use your thumb to press the outer door lever open and then use your fingers on the lever.
4) You link your phone's Bluetooth to use as a key, it unlocks as you open the door and locks when you walk away.
Like you say, there's a lot to learn, but that applies to most modern cars.
What all cars need is a pee tube for us guys that occasionally have prostate problems. To make it interesting and enjoyable is a suction setting, eh! eh!
I have a Kia Sportage 5th gen petrol and all the settings are done through the infotainment system on the centre screen. Although the car has a 7 year warranty, the infotainment system has only a 3 year one. What happens if it goes down after the 3 years do I have to pay 3 grand for a new infotainment screen?
Yes unfortunately
Watching you play with the door handles made my head itch, you seemed to forget you have thumbs.
A laptop with wheels that replaces ice
I bought my son's gaming laptop and I am continually frustrated at how fast the battery drains.
I am always looking for a wall outlet.
It works.
But that is the entire point of owning one.
Don't stray too far from home.
Brilliant idea just read a chapter of the book you have now ❤
for browsing and general watching Netflix and anything streaming get a Chromebook, I have a gaming laptop but that's all I use it for, when it comes to watching anything I use my Chromebook for a good 8 hours just on battery.
Chromebook is a 1.6 diesel that gets you there with plenty left, while gaming laptop is the Tesla.
@@Supraboyes brilliant analogy
@@Supraboyes I have a tablet for movies and UA-cam but seriously a late model laptop that bleeds so much power is almost pointless.
I will give it back and buy a work focused one.
Live and learn I guess
The problem with EV’s at the moment is insurance (especially Tesla’s).
My 2016 BMW 330 will cost me £520 with 12 years NCD. A long range Model 3 is (cheapest) £1425 with the same details. To make it worse just last month I was getting quotes of about £1100. So that’s a 20+% increase in quotes in a single month 😳.
Even if I had free electricity all year round the BMW would still be cheaper to run. Then there is the current depreciation of EV’s BECAUSE of insurance situation.
Seen a Model 3 on AutoTrader up for sale since October and has had about 4k worth of price cuts. Obvious that the insurance trend is causing havoc in the used market.
House insurance next for EV owners
When i ran the ownership numbers on my Model 3 before buying, it worked out that the savings i make on fuel are almost exactly the same as the extra insurance costs. And that is in Norway.
I do think the UK insurance is a rip-off though. I got some quotes for having a model 3 in the UK using a random rural village address, and it would cost more there than here in Norway. Actually quite a lot more. Given the difference in labour rates, taxes etc. i really don't understand how that can be.
You need to change your insurer. I had a quote for a new Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Fully Comp with only 2 years NCB through Admiral for £728 with unlimited mileage, breakdown cover. And £860 for all that plus business use of up to 30000 miles pa.
I'm in Australia. About 12 months ago, I ran the costs on a Model 3 Long Range. Yes, the insurance was expensive. But the biggest problem here is resale value.
The depreciation is not only frightening, some of the used model 3's available had been advertised for months, with several having being advertised for over 6 months!
The other troubling issue that I found was just how many ultra low mileage vehicles were up for sale. Why?
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Depreciation is very region specific i have noticed. I grew up in the UK, where depreciation on a typical car is around 50% in 3 years. Now i live in Norway, where the typical depreciation is 50% in 5 years. That's a very different number. With specific reference to my Model 3, looking at the used prices here i would estimate that it is still worth about 70% of what i paid for it 3 years ago. That reflects a market where company cars are not so prominent, and EVs are the norm rather than the exception.
Great video so far. I really dont like the idea of a touch screen instead of a proper dashboard
Audio book. Great idea. I often listen to audio books & am sure many of us would learn much from the content you'll read
So does regenerative braking do anything for range? He could have coasted for quite some time but came to a stop quite quickly. I can see it being useful when you apply the brake ie you want to stop. But not allowing coasting has to be overall less efficient (given that regenerative braking is not 100% efficient).
You can effectively coast by pressing a little on the accelerator so it's neither braking or accelerating.
By pressing gently you can go downhill without either accelerating or slowing!
Those S plaid are insane 3.9 100-200 my pure turbo m2 comp does 4.5 and there’s no way you need anymore speed than that, can’t stop as fast as I can though😅my stomach turns more in the S due to the lack of noise and lack of gearing so it feels again even faster. Suppose the only benefit is they have to stop to charge and it looks horrible too. I’m certainly not a Tesla person but I think they have a use and that should be being the ONLY EVs over superminis on the road. Wouldn’t mind them half as much if there wasn’t an ulterior motive behind the pushing of them, if that makes sense!
Alas these can drive fast for like 10 minutes before battery overheats and 15 before it needs charging again
You must remember to change the touch screen language to Swahili before you give it back, used to do similar to unlocked mobile phones at work, takes ages to put back to English 😂😂
… a bit like setting the temperature display on a hire car (before returning it) to Celsius if in the USA or Fahrenheit if in Europe, especially France!
Looking at the spec for the Tesla it appears it has manual door handles (in case of power failure, like after accident ) but only on FRONT DOORS! How is that legal ?
Makes you wonder how cars with with only 2 doors and 4 seats are legal.
Can you get custom skins for the display? Like you can with smart watches?
Your eyes were off the road far too long at times.
interesting that no one has ever commented that on my other car videos, so yeah, interesting point.
What you need to do is do a comparison test on a older electric vehicle. There is a company in Sussex who restore such electric classics which once used to deliver milk. They seem to be less complex and more characterful than the new electric vehicles.
Go to most dairies up north theres plenty about that they repair/build in house. Theyre all like triggers broom mind you 😂
@maybenot6075 most old vehicles are. I have experience with this sort of thing being a volunteer at a heritage railway. Most of the steam locomotives are pretty much semi original, and there are only small sections that are original on them.
As someone who only recently sold their 59 plate mk4 Mondeo estate diesel (bought a slightly newer Jag diesel as I wanted a bigger engine to tow our caravan and wanted to stay with diesel) this 14 year old car was reliable with annual servicing.
I also have an original 64Gb iPad that we use as a digital photo frame, from 2010, so pretty much the same age as the Mondeo. Whilst it mainly runs plugged in, the battery still works for an hour or so when unplugged.
Some electronics can be reliable and have a long (~13 years plus) life span, but sadly you only need to look at what’s happened with Boeing in the last 5 years to see how things have been “improved” by MBAs running businesses for maximum profit and manufacturing items that only (mostly) need to make it out of warranty.
Hi Geoff, absolutely agree with "too much technology", which most, if not all of us, will never fully utilise. However, much more relevant is the distraction while driving with a touch screen. You're absolutely spot-on with; what's the difference between that and a mobile phone! If I had the time and inclination, I'd count how many times you took your eyes off the road looking at the screen to your left.
The whole motor industry needs to address vehicle control ergonomics, if we're to drive safely to the best of our ability.
It's "eaten the range up" because you've got the lights and the heated seats on. So, apart from not accelerating too fast, you shouldn't drive at night or in the cold weather. Great these EV's aren't they? Can't wait to be forced to get one.
Completely agree on the screens, I was disappointed to see the new Discovery Sport has dropped even the climate dials. It should be illegal. All the assist features, see what happens when you turn them off, car off, then back on again. It's very annoying, EU standards....
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Whats the difference between touching a screen and looking at the dash to turn on the lights or heated rear window etc.
I just dont get your point
@@andypicken7848what happens when the screen goes out????
Whats in it for the manufacturers ? It will always be about cost savings regardless of car buyers
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The same as when a mechanical swith breaks, it has to be fixed or left broken
@@andypicken7848 Navigating a menu on a touchscreen vs reaching down without having to look at a button you know the location of, is very fundamentally different.
I'm mental and so is the wife I don't have 😊
Cobalt, what about the cobalt used in oil refinery to de-sulphur the petrol and diesel is the question I get asked? So how do I answer it.
No child-mined cobalt is used in any Tesla and the LFP batteries don't use any at cobalt at all. Refining of petrol and diesel only uses a fraction of the amount used in batteries, it's a catalyst and most of it is recaptured from the recation - the vast majority of child-mined cobalt is used in mobile device batteries (phones and laptops).
@@TB-up4xiif people are so worried about kids health then they’d obviously stop using ICE cars given the stuff coming out of the exhausts
Great point regarding the screen in the middle but I suppose that’s why they’ll force self driving cars on people…..”we’ve had to do this cos to many drivers are distracted to much by the screen”
I love how Geoff complains about the screen being offset and the immediately glances to the camera that's on the other side of the car 😂😂😂
If you pay attention, the camera is ABOVE the dash, but a cretin wouldn't notice that.
New channel! geoff secretly likes electric cars but don't tell anyone 😉.
But on the down side everything operates touch buttons or on a touch screen and on the outside those silly sunken door handles doesn't bode well in a fire event and you and your family are inside.
No emergency pull handle in the rear - only the front. i find that wild. So the only way to open the read doors is with a button. which means, if there's any power issues, the rear doors are not opening.
That is crazy! so it would be wise to carry a toffee hammer type device accessible to all occupants just in case to bust a window. But apart from the suv looking tesla they are not bad looking cars.
Strangely I recently kept seeing adverts on UA-cam for those hammers in case you end up under water. It was odd cause I thought that was a very unlikely scenario. Then I thought that’s for EVs. 😁
I test drove one was impressed on how flat it stayed in the corners no body roll at all enjoyed the trip from Sheffield to Manchester over the woodhead pass... my son loved that you could make the indicater do fart noises
i wonder how much you pay up front for all the door handle options versus just a latch?
I would rather crawl on my hands and knees that have a tesla
I'd rather have a Camel 🐪.
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If you are concerned about polluting you will only do better than an EV by using a pedal cycle.
On glass…
I disagree, Tesla is better than crawling on hands and knees, but a proper car is FAR better than than above two options.....
If some one gave me one free to use I wouldn't mind..
Use voice commands to easily control settings and preferences without using the touchscreen. Voice commands are designed to understand natural requests.
Use them to:
Adjust climate preferences.
Tweak the windshield wiper speed and frequency.
Control various aspects of your vehicle.
Navigate to a location.
Call a contact.
Interact with apps and settings.
To initiate a voice command, fully press the microphone button on the right side of the steering wheel. When a chime sounds, make your request, then Model 3 provides onscreen responses.
And give Google your voice to access your stuff
Great video best bit.
Little Geoff havi g the best time of his life.
Bless your family
Very useful on a trip through Wales
What we need to remember is these vehicles are going to be the potential basis for Mars (same with Elon's rockets, brain-tech, AI etc). Not earth. That's why they're weirdly not compatible with the roads designed for ICE vehicles. It seems Elon doesn't want to listen to the petrol heads for the simplicity is that he likes to engineer with 1st principles (that includes deleting things). Although I reckon Tesla might be forced to build ICE cars in the future if EVs get pushed out of the market. Or they remain the only EV car maker alongside niche EV makers.
Unfortunately nobody going to Mars not space X all hype and FSD more hype just buffer Tesla stick price imo
I enjoy taunting Tesla drivers by accelerating on Dynamic in my Jaaaag XE so that they try to catch and overtake and use lots of battery range.
Got wheel spin overtaking a car yesterday when I overplanted my foot on the accelerator.
Snap I do the same in my aston
Lol I love it 😂😂😂
I have the odd game with them in my S3...they never play for long...they must look at their range and then sh!t themselves!! 😮
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'Cabin Overheat' alerts the owner when the battery bursts into flames🔥🔥🔥
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Let’s hope your mate Lee gets out of his Porsche Taycan deal.I got the Turbo 997 just over a year ago, it was to stop me changing every year and losing too much.😂 I think it’s worked.keep up the content the pair of you.👍🏻
FYI door handles are made so as not to interrupt airflow, they want to get rid of the wing mirrors to, and use the cameras but most gov's will not allow them .
EV range is everything currently and less bumps on the overall form = more range. the wheels also add to the equation, different size and make-up (normal/winter tires) also affect the range
Heated steering wheel - a boon for me with issues with my hands and not being able to grip a cold hard steering wheel properly. I chose my current car based on having this and other features (Rav4 hybrid excel). Like the video 👍
'Children mining cobalt' as he drives a Tesla Model 3 with no-cobalt in. Brilliant.
and it's also used for refining petrol
Great video. Apparently the brake lights do come on when slowing via regeneration on electric cars.
I had a a '55 plate A6 Estate with seats you could heat up and heating you could turn on from inside your house using a remote.
Ty for the book excerpt.
Love the ventriloquist act at the end of the vid after you been the baths
A button on a giant iPad to even open the fkn glove box? We're not gonna make, are we? People I mean... 🙄
Thanks for a great video Geoff. What strikes me about the Tesla is how complicated it is so there's a lot that can go wrong, plus it seems like you have to learn to drive in a completely different way than normal. Does the speed you drive at affect your range I wonder? I'll stick to my petrol car as it's much less complicated and I have a proper key for it. 😀
Hahaha, that was the best video you’ve produced to date…….you really struggled to find faults! By the way, the brake lights do come on when you decelerate and the one pedal driving gives you total control when you get used to it, stops brake wear and charges the battery too!
However, the technology is a lot to take on so quickly for an ‘old boy’ haha.
Re. pre-heating, there are a lot of old petrol and diesel cars which have this, they were fitted with a Webasto heater and a remote.
Which would you have? Porche Firecan or Tesla Torch?
Who needs the old Top Gear or the GT. Love this. Keep em coming.
The regenerative breaking sounds great.
Like an extension of not having to change gears, with regerative breaking you now need to break less
I’d like to see it linked to brake lights as believe it or not many aren’t 😂
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I would also like to see vehicles with a gear box show brake lights when the driver changes down and the speed of the vehicle reduces but I doubt it will happen
@@andypicken7848 I’m led to believe that regen is more abrupt than down shifting unless they possibly skip 2 or more gears and if that’s done at a high enough speed to cause rapid deceleration ( ie comparable to regen braking) would obviously cause damage to the vehicle. Modern driving practice is not to use gears at all for reducing speed due to recent decades seeing vast improvements in brake efficiency “ brakes to slow, gears to go” but I understand there are many drivers out there who don’t do that. But like I said I don’t think it’s really comparable to most electrics with regen, I do see your logic though but it’s really not in the same sphere in my “own” opinion bud.Also in your comment you said that you “ see it as an extension of not having to change gears” again if we compare that to an automatic combustion engines car , they will slow very gradually compared to a regen electric auto, needing brakes more which in turn gives a signal, as opposed to what you like about needing, by your own words, to use brakes less, which is exactly my point I was making and responding to :)
I have just realised that you and Mac have the most advertising on your channels 😂 than other ones else I have watched that includes EVs 😮
I followed my neighbour for about 12 km a while back. He was in his Tesla, the road was 80 km limit and his brake lights kept coming on. So I would back off a little bit and the car behind me would back off and so on all down the line. Very annoying and potentially quite unsafe. I caught up with him a couple of days later and mentioned to him that I think he’s unconsciously resting his left foot on the brake pedal. He then explained the regenerative braking thing to me and that he really hated that function. So the brake lights do come on with regenerative braking, I would never have known that.
I get range anxiety. I only put between £10-£20 of petrol at a time in my T5. Unless I'm heading out of town.