Why is youtube putting on the hindi track automatically for some people here. That is objectively a bad decision. The original language should always play by default.
it's not an objectively bad decision. the dubs are just meant to be good enough so the video seems to be naturally in that language. the creator should be able to choose whether it's automatic tho
I think this video misses the point: these changes are likely to signal the end of Cursor. By incorporating many of the features that make up Cursor's business model directly into VS Code GitHub has dramatically undercut their value proposition. The delta between what Cursor offers and what developers get directly inside VS Code is probably only going to shrink over time. Cursor has no moat, and GitHub is going to eat their dinner unless they can pivot and add some unique value that GH can't readily copy. Also, for what it's worth, I'm not a big fan of the relentless negativity and nit-picking. Criticism is totally fair, but much of this wasn't constructive.
Agreed, on both points. He complains so much about stuff that doesn't matter. Why would it ever be a bad thing to allow the user to set exactly which model they want? You don't need to know the difference, because there is already a default model chosen. You never even need to actually click on the model switcher. But he's complaining like it's a bad thing that their giving user choice. More options are always better. If for some reason a specific model version has something others don't, you have the option to change it. Why is that a bad thing?
I'm still planning to switch from VSCode to Cursor soon, since (as shown in this video) it's still just simply better. Still, it's admittedly not as much better as it used to be.
@@lightning_11I love cursor, but github copilot is free for me as a student. I imagine copilot being free will outweigh the edge cursor has for people like me, if not now then over time.
@@PenguinjitsuX Agree with the model choice. Right now, things are moving pretty quickly, so allowing users to select a model makes it much easier if one gets more powerful. It may end up as a useless choice where one model is far superior, but that's fine. However, if it ends up where one model is much better at doing statistical programming, whilst another is great at front-end development, then it would be a huge boon. Eventually, it'll settle down to just a few models if not just one, and the choice will disappear. But it's the wild-west right now. Also agree with the sentiment about the negativity. Theo has the habit where once he goes against something, he finds it much harder to find any good in it. VS Code isn't a perfect editor, and a lot of the AI functionality is basically adding things through a system which is meant to only have a limited amount of integration. This means it will be a bit more clunky than things like Cursor which can integrate. But it also means that you can replace aspects of it easily. It sounds like MS is starting to pull more and more of Copilot to natively be in VS Code which is great. Take the files. Having to tag the files yourself (which we weren't told is the only way it works - you've gotta be careful reading too much into demos) is less ergonomic than just mentioning the file off-hand. However, it does mean you can be very specific if things are named in similar ways or it's a large project with a lot of moving parts where the AI could get confused. So there's some merit to it - ideally the system would support both apporaches.
I followed Theo because he's smart and T3 stack is fire. But getting so sick of the over-melodramatic negativity. Just don't want this much negativity in my life tbh
I agree with you; I followed him because of the advice he would give and because I was curious in what an experienced developer did, but now it's just weird stuff.
OMG! I was listening when I was cleaning dishes and thinking exact same thing, he’s such a BULLY, so mean, almost think that he’s not getting any sleep or had a fight with someone important. If it keeps getting meaner I’ll stop watching him.
@@kritikusi-666 you think vs code is not shitty? wow I'd just wish it was slower, bulkier, more bloated and why not lets run it inside an emulator inside electron because lulz then it will be perfect pffffttt hahahaha
The first half of this video is way too nitpicky and full of unnecessary complaints. Why would it ever be a bad thing to allow the user to set exactly which model they want? You don't need to know the difference, because there is already a default model chosen. You never actually need to click on the model switcher, it's just there as an advanced custom setting. But he's complaining like it's a bad thing that their giving user choice. More options are always better. If for some reason a specific model version has something others don't, you have the option to change it. Why is that a bad thing? Also, even when you did the survey, there was still a good percent of people that did know the difference, but you just straight up ignored the survey results as if everyone said they didn't know the difference between opus and sonnet. That's just super annoying to see. OK, but besides that, yeah, copilot does suck. And the new stuff they added is laughable in comparison to Cursor. Showing the comparisons live as they talk about it was a good way to show the differences. Liked the second half better. Points about how AI tools only make the entrypoint easier but don't actually help cross the giant cliff at the end was also a great point. I reached the end, and I noticed you started going on a side tangent to complain about the bottom bar UI of GitHub spark. It's just a repeat of what you did at the beginning. When you do this, it feels like a huge waste of time. You're digging into and complaining into a topic that doesn't even matter. The point of spark is the AI features, and sure, the UI may suck, but do you really need to start spending time to discuss it separately? It wastes the viewers' time. They're not watching this video for complaints about a tab bar UI.
Conflict of interest, product he invested in just lost. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. Those "AI startups" can't compete with oligopoly and in this case, I think it's a good thing. Wrappers on free stuff are cancerous and against everything open source stands for.
Also complaining about the Tab Bar UI in Resolve is a bit of a WTF moment. Just because he edits UA-cam videos, it doesn't mean he's the audience that Resolve is designed for. It's a bit of software mainly done for film/TV editors (and mainly colourists). These are people who have a different level of experience with UI and the approach Resolve uses works well for them. They're used to it, and it matches up with the processes they used to do. For YT videos it's odd and overkill, but you'll find that with every bit of UI that is designed for an entirely different group. That's pretty much UI Design-101
Yeah, actually it's being generated by youtube. Quickfix (if you don't want to change it everytime you watch a youtube video): Just change your primary browser language from "English (India)" or any other language to "English (United States)". Fixed the issue for me
It's not like Cursor is nothing more than expensive wrapper on VS Code, right? Great move by Microsoft, who not only invested millions of dollars into developing VS Code, they just single-handidly ended all copycats.
Seriously… haven’t even watched the video but just based on the title… why is it bad when vscode copies cursor when cursor literally copied all of vscode… wth lol.
Ok I guilted myself into watching more than half the video… he makes some fair criticisms of vscode but they’re things I already know about the differences because I’ve used both. The clickbait title doesn’t help, but the way he acts so annoyed when some feature is worse in vscode than cursor isn’t very appealing to watch for me. I even agree with most of the points he made, but it just feels like he goes into influencer mode too hard sometimes for me. Sorry… I like a lot of Theo’s content… just some honest feedback.
@@Pete133 Also knowing he has a vested interested in Cursor, that does explain why he annoyed that VS Code is now doing the things that made Cursor unique, and why he's got a lot riding on pointing out areas where it's worse.
I have the feeling, that Theo is just bashing for the sake of bashing. For me as a developer, this new Github (VSCode) strategy is a clear win in the end. I can stay on VSCode (which I use since its beginning) but can choose which ever LLM fits my needs. Gemini might be useless atm, but what about in two month? This might change. Having the choice is a win. What I don't understand: As far as I understand Cursor is a fork of VSCode with deeper LLM inclusion. Now VSCode (which is the base of Cursor!) is doing the same. But now this is evil?!? 🤯
@@boccobadz ding ding ding ding ding! Or at least it won't go as high as it otherwise could. Forks are a weird thing as they'll never really supercede the original tool they're based off. The most you can hope for, as an investor, is that the owners of the original thing (MS) decides to buy you out so they can incorporate the things your fork is doing. But MS is huge and can easily just code the things that Cursor does itself. There's relatively little IP in Cursor that MS would be crippled by, so I'm not surprised they're going this way. Maybe Cursor and VS Code will live side by side, but it might end up just being a more limited audience who goes for it.
Sure, buy into promises and sales pitches. Facts are against any AI viability. When it is close to being "decent" it's because it burns through GPU power in the cloud, and even after doing it... still full of shit. Find real friends.
that is a wild take..."the problem is that all these choices exist", um...ok you literally never have to ever touch any of these settings, it works out of the box, but if you wanted to customize your tool, you can...it doesn't pop-up a box before every interaction asking you to choose... probably one of the absolute worst takes Theo has ever said...
The dude just likes stirring up drama and gossip, dividing his audience/the industry based on what tools they use, instead of focusing on creating things of value. This isn't team sports. I love that these guys always go on about efficiency and productivity and why people should learn to type properly, or use this tool because it has better hotkeys to save time and increase output but then spend 100x the time ingesting the latest corporate drama and having debates over what tools YOU should be using because 1 guy at a company said some stupid shit one time or another tool has a different hotkey that saves you 0.000000001 seconds of time.
Maybe I'm not the target audience for this. But I don't care about all these AI codegens. As long as VS Code can still provide quality experience for me, I will continue to use it. If their non-AI experience drops because they overfocus on AIs, I will drop it.
I have youtube in Japanese(since I know Japanese), and the title is in Japanese too. It says something like "vice-pilot wants to win right? (confirmed)" lol. I have no idea what is the original title.
What's wrong with vscode copying an fork that was based on their thousand eng-year investments? And they did a really good job this time too with the changes. It's just the beginning of the race and we should welcome healthy competitions like this that benefit us all.
Yep, the future of programming with AI will be one where AI takes a definitive backseat in the process, I truly think AI does (since it already has for decades and people didnt even know it, which is the point) work best as a background system, products that make their entire brand be "AI Powered" are not here for the long term.
I get your complaints about them basically being a worse version of cursor but I think that speaks volumes on how brittle many of these AI-hype companies business models are. They build off of existing tools only for their work to be easily copied into the more mainstream ones. I didn't really think Cursor would be a viable long term product from the get-go, regardless of it being superior for the time being exactly because they forked off of vscode and built in features that MS themselves could add-on later for cheaper prices. I love Cursor, but I always thought its just counting down until vscode builds all the same things in and they lose their appeal since it'd just be easier for any average developer to use vscode itself. Similar to how being first isn't always being the best because you can just be copied better or cheaper later on.
This is not necessarily new. Both Visual Studio and vscode has a long history of allowing 3rd parties to create plugins for their tools. Problem is that if a plugin becomes really popular, they will find that their plugin's functionality will suddenly show up as a new feature of vscode or Visual Studio in a new update. It has been the nature of developing plugins for Microsoft products.
As Germans, we speak pretty good English (though we might have an accent), and we start learning it in school as early as Kindergarten. Besides that, many English words are similar to German. For example, 'function' is 'Funktion' in German, as are 'import' and 'importieren', 'asynchronous' and 'asynchron', etc.
And those technically were not that meaningless, even before reading through them properly that they are stages of development, he started nitpicking and then few mins later realized what the slide actually is about.
@@v1d300 I'm guessing he really didn't study AI in academia. All these kind of terms are used heavily there, and they do have meaning in that context. It just feels like it's now leaking out into the real world.
When I noticed `code` was opening cursor, it destroyed my trust in cursor. I uninstalled it an hour later. I'm sure this is a setting somewhere and someone will come up in the comments to say it's my fault, but I don't care. Just the fact that they think of themselves that way, where the program will override code instead of letting me do it if I want... I don't know... there's something weird with that.
@@ajproductions7357 I remember seeing it when setting the editor up. I also remember not enabling the option. Regardless, it's still weird that it'd do that. When you install Chrome, it asks if you want to change the default browser, it never changes Edge (or Safari's) shortcuts and icons to open Chrome. `code` in a terminal is its CLI version of an icon. And it's not even as if `cursor` was some reserved keyword or whatever. Imagine how weird it'd be if VSCode bound itself as `vim` to the terminal. Or if your girlfriend also answered when you said your ex's name. Idk, it's icky. It feels like something out of a "we're better than them, so you should replace code with our editor" mentality.
Shoutout to Posthog (sponsor of this video, but not a sponsor of me). Posthog has been fantastic for me and I learned about them from Theo last year and I've been a happy customer since then.
I've been using Cursor for the past month and I've been loving it. My one gripe is that I can't use my own Anthropic Claude API key to apply changes from the chat. You can't do that unless you use Claude directly from the Cursor subscription. It's not too bad because in-line AI editing still works with my own API key
I have always wondered how far you could get in a conversation, between 2 developers, who spoke 2 different languages, without knowing each other's language, but they knew all coding english. Would be an interesting experiment.
The day Copilot will learn to suggest deletion code and multiline edits based on my recent edits we will not need Cursor anymore. Until that it worth to pay for Cursor.
Claude isn't better than OpenAI at coding, at least not according to the Open LLM Leaderboard, which is crowdsource. Claude 3.5 Sonnet scores like a 90% at coding while OpenAI's o1 get's like 92%.
I have used Supermaven & Cursor. Cursor feels more solid, Supermaven is faster but also a little less reliable. Curios to see what supermaven can pull of with a custom IDE too!
Its weird though, because in the last 2 weeks new claude sonnet code quality in daily usage massively dropped compared to 4o getting iteratively better. I keep having to use old sonnet via API to get my projects done as new sonnet cannot get anything done
I’m an Irish dev that works for a previously Russian domiciled company - there are devs from Russia, Poland, balkans, etc. the whole codebase is in English. It’s cool that the language barrier doesn’t exist in the code, but just on Jira 😅
Multi model is nice I’ve used super maven copilot and several others at the same time in NVIM and it was really nice if I thought the response was bad I could just arrow key to see the other results so I could use supermaven as the default fast response and if I don’t like it the other models would’ve replied by then. Also sonneet vs opus is essentially just the speed of response
i was unable to find the vscode post or reply but i was not sure if it was just a glitch or if it is an actual screenshot or something? but i am just curious not blaming anyone…
8:30 It somehow reminds me of Structural expressionism, an architectural style that emerged in the 1970s. For a building it wasn't enough to be "high tech", the building also had to show that it's "high tech". But I guess that the VSC*de devs simply don't know the difference between these models either, so they'd rather give you a choice than making a bad choice themselves. This way they don't bet on the wrong horse.
wow, cannot believe he dissed Resolve, I think it's the best UI of any editor, and you can easily toggle the navigation off if you want to use keyboard shortcuts...
You should make a new update video about Zed, i've been daily driving it for a good 1.5 months now and it's been a really good experience. They also implemented AI but in a way that I feel will appeal to a lot of devs like me.
hmm my experience with supermaven is really mixed it jumps to places in the code that give no sense trying it now for 2 weeks but dunno it seems to not work in my codebase :/ Cline on the other hand (claude dev previously) is absolutely amazing and a gamechanger
I am a long term Cursor with Claude 3.5 user and you’re absolutely right. VSCode is finally behind. The price is well worth it, plus not supporting MicroSoft feels great. And now that there’s an AppImage available for Linux maybe it’s time to stop supporting Apple too 🎉
The problem with AI tools is you tend to learn from a higher abstraction level first which makes it harder to go back up the abstraction tree and go across.
These translations are kinda bad, like I got a German "VS Code kann das Kopieren des Cursors nicht stoppen" I don't think it was supposed to be "VS Code cannot stop copying cursor" or i you do it 1:1 "VS Code can not stop the copying of this cursor". And the audiotrack sounds generated which it probably is.
I'm living in a rural zone. Tools like cursor is so damn expensive, like I can live with that 20$/month price tag, to live for a week. So I prefer github copilot's cheaper price. and having those new features for the current github price (I hope), I think this conference is a win, atleast for me.
Regarding better tools, they don’t make that much of a difference unless they’re really different. If you at tiktok, you’ll find a lot of the same creators that are on youtube, but there are also a lot of interesting people that only create content because tiktok has reduced friction to mostly zero.
ah yes UA-cam forcing its features on people who never asked for it, I'm forced to read the title in my native language even tho I speak English, thank you UA-cam, the title looks ridiculous and I can't change it
Incorporating models just keeps users in the fold. The way Sam talks he shouldn't be threatened by it if he knows he has a better model right around the corner. Unless it is just hype. The people that are willing to change for a bit better code gen will switch back if he can perform a bit better.
"This is not how this shit works. Making the entry point marginally easier does nothing but delay when that huge cliff occours. It is jumping off a cliff to learn how to code." I feel like you need to finish thinking through this 'the tools are the problem' fallacy', in light of how people actually learn. The role of the kiddie pool with its hot temprature is to get people used to the water and provide the prerequisites for swimming. You still need to take off the arm floats and go out of your depth in the colder pool eventually, but getting familiar with being in water and moving around first really, really helps with uptake. People feel that shock from the cold, feel out of control and quit because they confuse the feeling of being out of control with being unable to do the task. Once they have enough familiarity to accurately make that judgement, they usually find that they can. Its easy to sell to investors as 'all these people can now code', but thats mostly marketing. The real benefit is that if AI can help beginner coders get familiar producing those same basic projects we all started with, without that shock happening too early, then the number successfully transitioning to skilled coding increases. Its a harder story for investors, but that doesn't make it not a serious improvement.
"VSCode is built on Copilot which is built on top of OpenAI's models". What? VSCode is not "built on Copilot" (it was developed at Microsoft fully independently of Github, such had built the now-defunct Atom. Github Copilot initially was built on top of OpenAI's models but that's not true anymore. Microsoft has a business investment in OpenAI but Microsoft also trains its own models (like Phi), and Azure also provides inference for Mistral and Llama.
Theo represents what is wrong with the tech industry with his elitist mentality. "Oh, you're not using such and such stack? It sucks and so do you. Oh, you're not doing it this way? That's terrible." In computer science, there are multiple ways to solve problems and create solutions. His attitude toward different technologies and ideas hurts the industry. It also impacts younger people entering the industry who see him as someone to look up to and mold their views based on his. It's very sad to see this infecting the industry. Pragmatic programmers are getting overshadowed by these types of people.
I love Cursor for only one thing.... It works with my custom model made on one docs for one task - to work with.... WordPress.... and not all WP, but modern. It's so cool. Accuracy is like 9/10.
Hey Theo haha that's cool that now this video has a Portuguese audio track, interesting! But people should really learn English this is content for devs so english it is.
wtf Theo. If you can, disable translation to other languages, at least for the titles I guess... I have UA-cam in Japanese(since I know Japanese) and the title says something like "vice-pilot really wants to win right? (confirmed)" lol wtf.
"who is this for??" - 😂 I've been saying this for years now, for example, with codespaces.. Starting and stopping random dev servers in the cloud so you save money, but is saving 10s of dollars a month a concern for fortune 500 companies, or just for hobbyists?
Cursor copied VS Code, not vice versa. It was obvious that MS would strike back, leveraging its ownership of VS Code and its resources to pull the market away from Cursor. To everyone who invested a single dollar in Cursor, thank you! You pushed the market forward, but personally, it was a poor investment. PS. The main beneficiary in this whole story is Anthropic. Cursor has clearly shown the advantage of Claude models, which were foundational for the Microsoft contract. Cursor is just extra in this mix.
I was surprised to hear Theo speaking Hindi for a second, but then I realized that a Native American could probably speak it better than this AI voice!
Copilot can't even do half of what Cursor can do, and people are already considering the switch. That's fucking sad. I guess I'll make a product worse than apple notes and people will start using that too?
Whatever you are doing with your dubbing/audio tracks is causing your videos to NOT have English as an option on my TV. I’ve now missed your last 3 or 4 videos. You could be missing A LOT of views because of this
Why is youtube putting on the hindi track automatically for some people here. That is objectively a bad decision. The original language should always play by default.
it's not an objectively bad decision. the dubs are just meant to be good enough so the video seems to be naturally in that language. the creator should be able to choose whether it's automatic tho
@@smixqse
Automatic should be default always
Disgusting company
Oh wow I just realized that feature. Putting everything in Japanese is so trippy
It's called "Doing the needful". Something you clearly know nothing about. I bet you've never done the needful a single time in your life.
I think this video misses the point: these changes are likely to signal the end of Cursor. By incorporating many of the features that make up Cursor's business model directly into VS Code GitHub has dramatically undercut their value proposition. The delta between what Cursor offers and what developers get directly inside VS Code is probably only going to shrink over time. Cursor has no moat, and GitHub is going to eat their dinner unless they can pivot and add some unique value that GH can't readily copy.
Also, for what it's worth, I'm not a big fan of the relentless negativity and nit-picking. Criticism is totally fair, but much of this wasn't constructive.
Agreed, on both points. He complains so much about stuff that doesn't matter. Why would it ever be a bad thing to allow the user to set exactly which model they want? You don't need to know the difference, because there is already a default model chosen. You never even need to actually click on the model switcher. But he's complaining like it's a bad thing that their giving user choice. More options are always better. If for some reason a specific model version has something others don't, you have the option to change it. Why is that a bad thing?
Thanks for saving my 30 minutes
I'm still planning to switch from VSCode to Cursor soon, since (as shown in this video) it's still just simply better. Still, it's admittedly not as much better as it used to be.
@@lightning_11I love cursor, but github copilot is free for me as a student. I imagine copilot being free will outweigh the edge cursor has for people like me, if not now then over time.
@@PenguinjitsuX Agree with the model choice. Right now, things are moving pretty quickly, so allowing users to select a model makes it much easier if one gets more powerful. It may end up as a useless choice where one model is far superior, but that's fine. However, if it ends up where one model is much better at doing statistical programming, whilst another is great at front-end development, then it would be a huge boon. Eventually, it'll settle down to just a few models if not just one, and the choice will disappear. But it's the wild-west right now.
Also agree with the sentiment about the negativity. Theo has the habit where once he goes against something, he finds it much harder to find any good in it. VS Code isn't a perfect editor, and a lot of the AI functionality is basically adding things through a system which is meant to only have a limited amount of integration. This means it will be a bit more clunky than things like Cursor which can integrate. But it also means that you can replace aspects of it easily. It sounds like MS is starting to pull more and more of Copilot to natively be in VS Code which is great.
Take the files. Having to tag the files yourself (which we weren't told is the only way it works - you've gotta be careful reading too much into demos) is less ergonomic than just mentioning the file off-hand. However, it does mean you can be very specific if things are named in similar ways or it's a large project with a lot of moving parts where the AI could get confused. So there's some merit to it - ideally the system would support both apporaches.
I followed Theo because he's smart and T3 stack is fire. But getting so sick of the over-melodramatic negativity. Just don't want this much negativity in my life tbh
yeah the videos just keep getting worse
I agree with you; I followed him because of the advice he would give and because I was curious in what an experienced developer did, but now it's just weird stuff.
There is nothing smart about him or the other mustache guy
OMG! I was listening when I was cleaning dishes and thinking exact same thing, he’s such a BULLY, so mean, almost think that he’s not getting any sleep or had a fight with someone important. If it keeps getting meaner I’ll stop watching him.
Or rather id say the world is getting worse towards lying and copycatting just for a better company profit?@gami_
Cursor is a fork of VS code… so how are they copying them exactly?
Try it. You’ll find out.
It is. He just mad because we are getting shit for free instead of paying for that shitty ass cursor.
@@kritikusi-666 you think vs code is not shitty? wow I'd just wish it was slower, bulkier, more bloated and why not lets run it inside an emulator inside electron because lulz then it will be perfect pffffttt hahahaha
The first half of this video is way too nitpicky and full of unnecessary complaints. Why would it ever be a bad thing to allow the user to set exactly which model they want? You don't need to know the difference, because there is already a default model chosen. You never actually need to click on the model switcher, it's just there as an advanced custom setting. But he's complaining like it's a bad thing that their giving user choice. More options are always better. If for some reason a specific model version has something others don't, you have the option to change it. Why is that a bad thing?
Also, even when you did the survey, there was still a good percent of people that did know the difference, but you just straight up ignored the survey results as if everyone said they didn't know the difference between opus and sonnet. That's just super annoying to see.
OK, but besides that, yeah, copilot does suck. And the new stuff they added is laughable in comparison to Cursor. Showing the comparisons live as they talk about it was a good way to show the differences. Liked the second half better. Points about how AI tools only make the entrypoint easier but don't actually help cross the giant cliff at the end was also a great point.
I reached the end, and I noticed you started going on a side tangent to complain about the bottom bar UI of GitHub spark. It's just a repeat of what you did at the beginning. When you do this, it feels like a huge waste of time. You're digging into and complaining into a topic that doesn't even matter. The point of spark is the AI features, and sure, the UI may suck, but do you really need to start spending time to discuss it separately? It wastes the viewers' time. They're not watching this video for complaints about a tab bar UI.
Conflict of interest, product he invested in just lost. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. Those "AI startups" can't compete with oligopoly and in this case, I think it's a good thing. Wrappers on free stuff are cancerous and against everything open source stands for.
Also complaining about the Tab Bar UI in Resolve is a bit of a WTF moment. Just because he edits UA-cam videos, it doesn't mean he's the audience that Resolve is designed for. It's a bit of software mainly done for film/TV editors (and mainly colourists). These are people who have a different level of experience with UI and the approach Resolve uses works well for them. They're used to it, and it matches up with the processes they used to do. For YT videos it's odd and overkill, but you'll find that with every bit of UI that is designed for an entirely different group. That's pretty much UI Design-101
It's because he knows his content is completely garbage and irrelevant
WTF , is this hindi dubbing
Yeah, actually it's being generated by youtube.
Quickfix (if you don't want to change it everytime you watch a youtube video): Just change your primary browser language from "English (India)" or any other language to "English (United States)". Fixed the issue for me
halloween jumpscare
Wait, what?
@@TheExodusLost Check the audio track there is Hindi dub and other languages available from UA-cam
yes its nonsense just click settings icon and change audio track to english
It's not like Cursor is nothing more than expensive wrapper on VS Code, right? Great move by Microsoft, who not only invested millions of dollars into developing VS Code, they just single-handidly ended all copycats.
Seriously… haven’t even watched the video but just based on the title… why is it bad when vscode copies cursor when cursor literally copied all of vscode… wth lol.
Ok I guilted myself into watching more than half the video… he makes some fair criticisms of vscode but they’re things I already know about the differences because I’ve used both. The clickbait title doesn’t help, but the way he acts so annoyed when some feature is worse in vscode than cursor isn’t very appealing to watch for me. I even agree with most of the points he made, but it just feels like he goes into influencer mode too hard sometimes for me. Sorry… I like a lot of Theo’s content… just some honest feedback.
@@Pete133 Also knowing he has a vested interested in Cursor, that does explain why he annoyed that VS Code is now doing the things that made Cursor unique, and why he's got a lot riding on pointing out areas where it's worse.
I have the feeling, that Theo is just bashing for the sake of bashing. For me as a developer, this new Github (VSCode) strategy is a clear win in the end. I can stay on VSCode (which I use since its beginning) but can choose which ever LLM fits my needs. Gemini might be useless atm, but what about in two month? This might change. Having the choice is a win.
What I don't understand: As far as I understand Cursor is a fork of VSCode with deeper LLM inclusion. Now VSCode (which is the base of Cursor!) is doing the same. But now this is evil?!? 🤯
It is, because his investment will probably go to 0. I hate those forks.
You can choose any LLM in Cursor.
@@boccobadz ding ding ding ding ding! Or at least it won't go as high as it otherwise could.
Forks are a weird thing as they'll never really supercede the original tool they're based off. The most you can hope for, as an investor, is that the owners of the original thing (MS) decides to buy you out so they can incorporate the things your fork is doing. But MS is huge and can easily just code the things that Cursor does itself. There's relatively little IP in Cursor that MS would be crippled by, so I'm not surprised they're going this way.
Maybe Cursor and VS Code will live side by side, but it might end up just being a more limited audience who goes for it.
Sure, buy into promises and sales pitches. Facts are against any AI viability. When it is close to being "decent" it's because it burns through GPU power in the cloud, and even after doing it... still full of shit. Find real friends.
that is a wild take..."the problem is that all these choices exist", um...ok
you literally never have to ever touch any of these settings, it works out of the box, but if you wanted to customize your tool, you can...it doesn't pop-up a box before every interaction asking you to choose...
probably one of the absolute worst takes Theo has ever said...
The dude just likes stirring up drama and gossip, dividing his audience/the industry based on what tools they use, instead of focusing on creating things of value.
This isn't team sports.
I love that these guys always go on about efficiency and productivity and why people should learn to type properly, or use this tool because it has better hotkeys to save time and increase output but then spend 100x the time ingesting the latest corporate drama and having debates over what tools YOU should be using because 1 guy at a company said some stupid shit one time or another tool has a different hotkey that saves you 0.000000001 seconds of time.
Maybe github copilot is coming for all the wrapper forks of VSCode.
Maybe I'm not the target audience for this. But I don't care about all these AI codegens. As long as VS Code can still provide quality experience for me, I will continue to use it. If their non-AI experience drops because they overfocus on AIs, I will drop it.
The Japanese dubbing soulds like a anime bg explainations
I thought it was Araragi from Monogatari 😂
average youtube software engineer salary to make bad user experiences:
$216K - $327K/yr
I have youtube in Japanese(since I know Japanese), and the title is in Japanese too. It says something like "vice-pilot wants to win right? (confirmed)" lol. I have no idea what is the original title.
@@dankokrupljanin9488 Multi-language audio is added by the content creator not UA-cam.
that hindi dubbing caught me offguard bruh
so many Indians watching
I'm sure Theo gets paid by Cursur to make these videos.
What's wrong with vscode copying an fork that was based on their thousand eng-year investments? And they did a really good job this time too with the changes. It's just the beginning of the race and we should welcome healthy competitions like this that benefit us all.
Only me prefer using simple VS code and sometimes ask LLM to write something?
Same here can't stand having a weird UI...
Yep, the future of programming with AI will be one where AI takes a definitive backseat in the process, I truly think AI does (since it already has for decades and people didnt even know it, which is the point) work best as a background system, products that make their entire brand be "AI Powered" are not here for the long term.
Dang, Theo was really salty in this one, lol
I get your complaints about them basically being a worse version of cursor but I think that speaks volumes on how brittle many of these AI-hype companies business models are. They build off of existing tools only for their work to be easily copied into the more mainstream ones. I didn't really think Cursor would be a viable long term product from the get-go, regardless of it being superior for the time being exactly because they forked off of vscode and built in features that MS themselves could add-on later for cheaper prices. I love Cursor, but I always thought its just counting down until vscode builds all the same things in and they lose their appeal since it'd just be easier for any average developer to use vscode itself.
Similar to how being first isn't always being the best because you can just be copied better or cheaper later on.
This is not necessarily new. Both Visual Studio and vscode has a long history of allowing 3rd parties to create plugins for their tools. Problem is that if a plugin becomes really popular, they will find that their plugin's functionality will suddenly show up as a new feature of vscode or Visual Studio in a new update. It has been the nature of developing plugins for Microsoft products.
As Germans, we speak pretty good English (though we might have an accent), and we start learning it in school as early as Kindergarten. Besides that, many English words are similar to German. For example, 'function' is 'Funktion' in German, as are 'import' and 'importieren', 'asynchronous' and 'asynchron', etc.
Slides with meaningless words?
What are you upset about, this is standard business communication.
And those technically were not that meaningless, even before reading through them properly that they are stages of development, he started nitpicking and then few mins later realized what the slide actually is about.
@@v1d300 I'm guessing he really didn't study AI in academia. All these kind of terms are used heavily there, and they do have meaning in that context. It just feels like it's now leaking out into the real world.
I belive that 2/3 developers uinstall Cursor after trial (7 days)
I removed it after the vscode update, all I wanted was Claude, Chat GPT was a little to "dumb"
Cursor's intrusive override of the code command after forking vscode made me dislike the apparent ethos of the whole project
When I noticed `code` was opening cursor, it destroyed my trust in cursor. I uninstalled it an hour later. I'm sure this is a setting somewhere and someone will come up in the comments to say it's my fault, but I don't care. Just the fact that they think of themselves that way, where the program will override code instead of letting me do it if I want... I don't know... there's something weird with that.
@@mkabillyit actually asked me if I wanted to override it…
It only does it if you tell it to over ride it
@@ajproductions7357 I remember seeing it when setting the editor up. I also remember not enabling the option. Regardless, it's still weird that it'd do that.
When you install Chrome, it asks if you want to change the default browser, it never changes Edge (or Safari's) shortcuts and icons to open Chrome. `code` in a terminal is its CLI version of an icon.
And it's not even as if `cursor` was some reserved keyword or whatever. Imagine how weird it'd be if VSCode bound itself as `vim` to the terminal. Or if your girlfriend also answered when you said your ex's name.
Idk, it's icky. It feels like something out of a "we're better than them, so you should replace code with our editor" mentality.
@ fair point man
Shoutout to Posthog (sponsor of this video, but not a sponsor of me). Posthog has been fantastic for me and I learned about them from Theo last year and I've been a happy customer since then.
Am I the only one who immediately switched audio to English thinking that YT app sucked again like its normal 😅
I've been using Cursor for the past month and I've been loving it. My one gripe is that I can't use my own Anthropic Claude API key to apply changes from the chat. You can't do that unless you use Claude directly from the Cursor subscription. It's not too bad because in-line AI editing still works with my own API key
Good morning Saars! The Hindi dubbing is exquisite. About time UA-cam did the needful.
At this point, is there a tech company that theo doesn't have money in..
When chatgpt aims to do everything possible it's unreasonable to ask it to be specifically built for coding
I have always wondered how far you could get in a conversation, between 2 developers, who spoke 2 different languages, without knowing each other's language, but they knew all coding english. Would be an interesting experiment.
i was interested in cursor until i saw that $20USD per month price tag
i keep changing the email, do not tell them
@@alexleo4863 shhhh 🤫
Cursor should allow offline models imo. Does anyone see the new Github (VSCode) strategy doing that?
vscode is the most influential code editor in the world, you best be sure they are going to fight for its dominance
There was an attempt to do PL/1 in non-English languages but it failed because there is no status in not writing English.
7:19 man this is so brainlet take. "Why are there choices" is the most "own nothing, be happy" shit I have heard today
The day Copilot will learn to suggest deletion code and multiline edits based on my recent edits we will not need Cursor anymore. Until that it worth to pay for Cursor.
Claude isn't better than OpenAI at coding, at least not according to the Open LLM Leaderboard, which is crowdsource. Claude 3.5 Sonnet scores like a 90% at coding while OpenAI's o1 get's like 92%.
I have used Supermaven & Cursor. Cursor feels more solid, Supermaven is faster but also a little less reliable. Curios to see what supermaven can pull of with a custom IDE too!
Its weird though, because in the last 2 weeks new claude sonnet code quality in daily usage massively dropped compared to 4o getting iteratively better. I keep having to use old sonnet via API to get my projects done as new sonnet cannot get anything done
I’m an Irish dev that works for a previously Russian domiciled company - there are devs from Russia, Poland, balkans, etc. the whole codebase is in English. It’s cool that the language barrier doesn’t exist in the code, but just on Jira 😅
You are an investor in all 3 companies : cursor, supermaven and microsoft?
Cursor will make you rich. How does one invest in it?
Multi model is nice I’ve used super maven copilot and several others at the same time in NVIM and it was really nice if I thought the response was bad I could just arrow key to see the other results so I could use supermaven as the default fast response and if I don’t like it the other models would’ve replied by then. Also sonneet vs opus is essentially just the speed of response
i was unable to find the vscode post or reply but i was not sure if it was just a glitch or if it is an actual screenshot or something? but i am just curious not blaming anyone…
8:30 It somehow reminds me of Structural expressionism, an architectural style that emerged in the 1970s. For a building it wasn't enough to be "high tech", the building also had to show that it's "high tech".
But I guess that the VSC*de devs simply don't know the difference between these models either, so they'd rather give you a choice than making a bad choice themselves. This way they don't bet on the wrong horse.
Does open graph data require a separate title and description than the metadata?
At least they had an example project they worked on in the demos that looked halfway real.
wow, cannot believe he dissed Resolve, I think it's the best UI of any editor, and you can easily toggle the navigation off if you want to use keyboard shortcuts...
You should make a new update video about Zed, i've been daily driving it for a good 1.5 months now and it's been a really good experience. They also implemented AI but in a way that I feel will appeal to a lot of devs like me.
What is the font you are using in your editor?
hmm my experience with supermaven is really mixed it jumps to places in the code that give no sense trying it now for 2 weeks but dunno it seems to not work in my codebase :/
Cline on the other hand (claude dev previously) is absolutely amazing and a gamechanger
Makes me so happy that they taught my first grade class BASIC in 1987. Yeah, used to be that way. And we understood the basics of it, pun intended.
I am a long term Cursor with Claude 3.5 user and you’re absolutely right. VSCode is finally behind. The price is well worth it, plus not supporting MicroSoft feels great. And now that there’s an AppImage available for Linux maybe it’s time to stop supporting Apple too 🎉
The problem with AI tools is you tend to learn from a higher abstraction level first which makes it harder to go back up the abstraction tree and go across.
"VSCode is built on top of copilot" - lol, amazing statement.
All about "Developers" 80% code with AI and 20% Human review + fixing AI result
These translations are kinda bad, like I got a German "VS Code kann das Kopieren des Cursors nicht stoppen" I don't think it was supposed to be "VS Code cannot stop copying cursor" or i you do it 1:1 "VS Code can not stop the copying of this cursor". And the audiotrack sounds generated which it probably is.
o1-preview seems to be quite decent from within cursor... I think?
How to disable dubbing?
I'm living in a rural zone. Tools like cursor is so damn expensive, like I can live with that 20$/month price tag, to live for a week.
So I prefer github copilot's cheaper price. and having those new features for the current github price (I hope), I think this conference is a win, atleast for me.
"This is just German Steve Ballmer with less to say" is crazy 💀
Can you link the tweet that's on the thumbnail, please?
Not a real tweet, he makes these up for the thumbnail
@@sriramkailasam1055 Is this legal? Feels so wrong.
I love how this video became more popular for the audio dubbing feature, rather than the video subject
Theo, make a video about this lmao, more views
"i can't pretend to care anymore" yeah i feel that xD
wait what?? Theo, did you do a Hindi voiceover or is this google just shoving its AI shiz on us?
Regarding better tools, they don’t make that much of a difference unless they’re really different. If you at tiktok, you’ll find a lot of the same creators that are on youtube, but there are also a lot of interesting people that only create content because tiktok has reduced friction to mostly zero.
ah yes UA-cam forcing its features on people who never asked for it, I'm forced to read the title in my native language even tho I speak English, thank you UA-cam, the title looks ridiculous and I can't change it
Incorporating models just keeps users in the fold. The way Sam talks he shouldn't be threatened by it if he knows he has a better model right around the corner. Unless it is just hype. The people that are willing to change for a bit better code gen will switch back if he can perform a bit better.
Imagine using either of these editors.
"This is not how this shit works. Making the entry point marginally easier does nothing but delay when that huge cliff occours. It is jumping off a cliff to learn how to code."
I feel like you need to finish thinking through this 'the tools are the problem' fallacy', in light of how people actually learn.
The role of the kiddie pool with its hot temprature is to get people used to the water and provide the prerequisites for swimming. You still need to take off the arm floats and go out of your depth in the colder pool eventually, but getting familiar with being in water and moving around first really, really helps with uptake.
People feel that shock from the cold, feel out of control and quit because they confuse the feeling of being out of control with being unable to do the task. Once they have enough familiarity to accurately make that judgement, they usually find that they can.
Its easy to sell to investors as 'all these people can now code', but thats mostly marketing. The real benefit is that if AI can help beginner coders get familiar producing those same basic projects we all started with, without that shock happening too early, then the number successfully transitioning to skilled coding increases. Its a harder story for investors, but that doesn't make it not a serious improvement.
"VSCode is built on Copilot which is built on top of OpenAI's models". What? VSCode is not "built on Copilot" (it was developed at Microsoft fully independently of Github, such had built the now-defunct Atom. Github Copilot initially was built on top of OpenAI's models but that's not true anymore.
Microsoft has a business investment in OpenAI but Microsoft also trains its own models (like Phi), and Azure also provides inference for Mistral and Llama.
Please disable automatic translations if possible
Cursor is just the best right now but I doubt it will last long
Theo represents what is wrong with the tech industry with his elitist mentality. "Oh, you're not using such and such stack? It sucks and so do you. Oh, you're not doing it this way? That's terrible." In computer science, there are multiple ways to solve problems and create solutions. His attitude toward different technologies and ideas hurts the industry. It also impacts younger people entering the industry who see him as someone to look up to and mold their views based on his. It's very sad to see this infecting the industry. Pragmatic programmers are getting overshadowed by these types of people.
I love Cursor for only one thing.... It works with my custom model made on one docs for one task - to work with.... WordPress.... and not all WP, but modern. It's so cool. Accuracy is like 9/10.
Hearing Theo rant in Japanese is something else!
the obvious solution to the english problem is to make like Agda and use unicode symbols for everything
Lmao never heard such a clear german accent like it was the case for the first universe speaker
Can we as a community stop attaching "borderline" to every accusatory statement?
Meanwhile Copilot in IntelliJ IDEA has been broken for a month already
cursor is fantastic
Hey Theo haha that's cool that now this video has a Portuguese audio track, interesting! But people should really learn English this is content for devs so english it is.
wtf Theo. If you can, disable translation to other languages, at least for the titles I guess... I have UA-cam in Japanese(since I know Japanese) and the title says something like "vice-pilot really wants to win right? (confirmed)" lol wtf.
I was so shocked by the Hindi voice that I wondered why Theo sounded different. The Japanese one hits hard, though.😂
I use neovim btw..
27:53 the fact that fonts for I and l are very much similar is just funny! We have to brute force the claims with that
In which universe I am
"who is this for??" - 😂 I've been saying this for years now, for example, with codespaces.. Starting and stopping random dev servers in the cloud so you save money, but is saving 10s of dollars a month a concern for fortune 500 companies, or just for hobbyists?
As someone early to the video and hasn't had time to watch it i can confirm that's its probably pretty good
why the heck is the video voice in brazilian O.O
Cursor copied VS Code, not vice versa. It was obvious that MS would strike back, leveraging its ownership of VS Code and its resources to pull the market away from Cursor.
To everyone who invested a single dollar in Cursor, thank you! You pushed the market forward, but personally, it was a poor investment.
PS. The main beneficiary in this whole story is Anthropic. Cursor has clearly shown the advantage of Claude models, which were foundational for the Microsoft contract. Cursor is just extra in this mix.
Literally no moat in 99.99% of ai
Hindi dub should use more commonly used words. Currently, it sounds like Nat Geo 😂
Gemini 1.5 pro is the 2nd best model for coding
I was surprised to hear Theo speaking Hindi for a second, but then I realized that a Native American could probably speak it better than this AI voice!
French dub says “versus code” instead of VS code. AI caught lacking?
8:00 Zish and Zorg had me rolling
Copilot can't even do half of what Cursor can do, and people are already considering the switch. That's fucking sad.
I guess I'll make a product worse than apple notes and people will start using that too?
The triple E's of Microsoft continue.
Some TVs do not have the option to change back to English God knows why. This dubbed versions are unwatchable
Whatever you are doing with your dubbing/audio tracks is causing your videos to NOT have English as an option on my TV. I’ve now missed your last 3 or 4 videos. You could be missing A LOT of views because of this