Yep, check!, got the new blue model, arrives this month, already ordered the carbon flyscreen, the REMUS black pipe and the bar end mirrors, 2part tank pads, getting the QS+ when the bike gets here. I love kTm😁.
Right? I've had a bunch of bikes. Picked up a 390 in 2018, only planned on keeping it for the summer. Ended up keeping it until last year. It's just a fun little bugger. I'm half thinking of getting another one.
The European licensing laws are ridiculous! Imagine what a 390 could really put down in HP?! KTM's own 2024 350 EXC-F is pushing over 50HP. Imagine an unrestricted Ninja 400/500. I'd wager they could easily squeeze 60 ponies from that engine.
@johna6968 it's just an example of power. The manufacturers have to build their bikes based on the strictest laws in order to sell them worldwide. My point is that European laws ruin bikes that otherwise would make more power effortlessly. The new 390 could easily make over 47 HP, but Euro standards won't allow it.
The biggest limitation on purely street focused engines aren't the licensing laws (although they do obviously play a part with smaller displacement bikes), it's keeping the bike user friendly. Yes a dirtbike engine puts out a lot of power for the displacement but they're not designed for long rides and thus have very short maintenance intervals and need a lot of parts replaced due to wear quite quickly. The 350EXC-F you mentioned does put out a lot more power than the 390 but it needs to be serviced every 15 hours or 750km, whereas the 2024 Duke 390 only needs maintenance every 10000km which went up from 7500km for previous generations. I also know on a 350 the piston needs to be replaced every 105 hours so if hypothetically you do 750km every 15 hours which on a bike like that never happens then that means you'll be on your 3rd piston before the updated 390 needs its first oil change after the break in period. Dirtbike engines are amazingly engineered to put out that much power, they're just not convenient for a normal street rider. If you want an even more extreme example you can look at Moto3 bikes which push 60hp out of a 250 but obviously those engines basically go through a whole rebuild each race. However since you mentioned it you are correct that Ninja 400s can be built to push over 60hp albeit with a ton of mods, I know a company called Norton Motorsports sells a bunch of parts for them. KTM's single is more limited but pushing over 50hp with a 390 isn't unheard of. So in short, yes regular street engines are very limited in terms of power but in most cases it's simply to make them more user friendly. Would suck to do daily oil changes and valve clearance checks every 2-3 days when doing a very big road trip
Theres a reason race bikes are tuned the way they are. Racers are ok with high maintenance. Oil changes every couple races. Valve checks every 500 miles…
This 390 is making almost as much power as the kove 450 which is a dakar race bike and is much higher Maintenance. It makes the power at a lower rev range than the kove as well. Its rather impressive actually.
Donovan I'm worried about you., Please check with your optometrist.....that isn't a good looking bike.😆😆😆 You did did a fine review as usual but if it is okay I'll differ on the bikes looks.👍👍
@@jonomasonILoveU To be fair I bought the ugliest roulette green Tiger 955i about 20 years ago but what a sweet ride. It did stand out in the parking lot.😁😁
Why are you riding around on public roads with no licence plate? It sets a very bad example. There's enough disregard for the law without you adding to it on a tv show.
Better all round than the Mk2. More low-down torque and a better TFT. Better-looking bike, too.
Yep, check!, got the new blue model, arrives this month, already ordered the carbon flyscreen, the REMUS black pipe and the bar end mirrors, 2part tank pads, getting the QS+ when the bike gets here. I love kTm😁.
Very curious to see how the new Husquvarna 401 models will look like.
I'm hoping for the 2025 RC390 to get these upgrades, should make for an awesome first bike! Awesome review!
As always, great content from you guys.
Reliability?
390 is finally 399cc
Had a whole host of bikes over the years. Bizarre that a single cylinder 4 stroke was my favourite.
Right? I've had a bunch of bikes. Picked up a 390 in 2018, only planned on keeping it for the summer. Ended up keeping it until last year. It's just a fun little bugger.
I'm half thinking of getting another one.
How about fuel economy? I heard this one is slightly more economical than the previous.
Please invest in a decent microphone
When will we see CFMoto bikes?? I mean through BRICS we are closer to China than most, but even the USA have their bikes already...
The European licensing laws are ridiculous! Imagine what a 390 could really put down in HP?! KTM's own 2024 350 EXC-F is pushing over 50HP. Imagine an unrestricted Ninja 400/500. I'd wager they could easily squeeze 60 ponies from that engine.
Recommended oil changes every 500 miles and rebuilds every 5000? That wouldn't work for road based buyers.
@johna6968 it's just an example of power. The manufacturers have to build their bikes based on the strictest laws in order to sell them worldwide. My point is that European laws ruin bikes that otherwise would make more power effortlessly. The new 390 could easily make over 47 HP, but Euro standards won't allow it.
The biggest limitation on purely street focused engines aren't the licensing laws (although they do obviously play a part with smaller displacement bikes), it's keeping the bike user friendly. Yes a dirtbike engine puts out a lot of power for the displacement but they're not designed for long rides and thus have very short maintenance intervals and need a lot of parts replaced due to wear quite quickly. The 350EXC-F you mentioned does put out a lot more power than the 390 but it needs to be serviced every 15 hours or 750km, whereas the 2024 Duke 390 only needs maintenance every 10000km which went up from 7500km for previous generations. I also know on a 350 the piston needs to be replaced every 105 hours so if hypothetically you do 750km every 15 hours which on a bike like that never happens then that means you'll be on your 3rd piston before the updated 390 needs its first oil change after the break in period. Dirtbike engines are amazingly engineered to put out that much power, they're just not convenient for a normal street rider. If you want an even more extreme example you can look at Moto3 bikes which push 60hp out of a 250 but obviously those engines basically go through a whole rebuild each race.
However since you mentioned it you are correct that Ninja 400s can be built to push over 60hp albeit with a ton of mods, I know a company called Norton Motorsports sells a bunch of parts for them. KTM's single is more limited but pushing over 50hp with a 390 isn't unheard of.
So in short, yes regular street engines are very limited in terms of power but in most cases it's simply to make them more user friendly. Would suck to do daily oil changes and valve clearance checks every 2-3 days when doing a very big road trip
Theres a reason race bikes are tuned the way they are. Racers are ok with high maintenance. Oil changes every couple races. Valve checks every 500 miles…
This 390 is making almost as much power as the kove 450 which is a dakar race bike and is much higher Maintenance. It makes the power at a lower rev range than the kove as well. Its rather impressive actually.
Donovan I'm worried about you., Please check with your optometrist.....that isn't a good looking bike.😆😆😆 You did did a fine review as usual but if it is okay I'll differ on the bikes looks.👍👍
once you see it next to you and actually ride it you can`t unsee it because it just consumes you, it grows onya pretty quik😁.
@@jonomasonILoveU To be fair I bought the ugliest roulette green Tiger 955i about 20 years ago but what a sweet ride. It did stand out in the parking lot.😁😁
Was this a review or a KTM commercial ??
Ok I think KTM are purposefully making the ugliest bikes ever. And I own a 2020 390 Adv and think that's one of their better looking models.
Why are you riding around on public roads with no licence plate? It sets a very bad example. There's enough disregard for the law without you adding to it on a tv show.
lol.. There is always one