I hope you never leave UA-cam. The amount of knowledge you have is absolutely incredible. I’m 20 yrs old and I’ve learned so much from you about my 7.3 with your tear down and rebuild video.
I love the way Warren takes the time to explain stuff, most don't do that. That said, its way above my level so a lot goes over my head but I certainly pick more and more as I go. I've subscribed to many channels but keep coming back to this one as it's the most authentic I've found. A hard working guy sharing his knowledge without out the fandom. Thanks Warren.
In 1976 I was less than 6 months out of an automotive and diesel repair trade school working for a logging company when I worked on my first Gearmatic 19, on a 74 model 50S Cat 518. They are notorious for rust in the clutch brake compartment. After 3 attempts at cleaning it up and freeing the components I had it working, but not perfectly as the operator required. The boss call the Caterpillar dealer to come out. I was there to watch and learn. I learned their top mechanic had never had one apart yet. Caterpillar's solution was to replace everything from the clutch/brake drum to the master cylinder. It was expensive but it worked. I have never been able to stop the rust issues in the Gearmatics. My only guess is the heat they create cause condensation on all the bare metal. Use lots of never-seize.
Thank you for the video Warren / we have sound issues in the last 5min some places might be the camera trying to save the battery’s - not being a camera specialist myself - but anyway the content and your honesty is priceless in this video too / thank you for making it
I’ve done nothing but learn from you warren, but every once in a blue moon I see you do it the hard way and those are the only times I comment. I’m from Maine and I’m old school and I’ve worked on a lot of friction cranes and we still have cable skidders. We just call that a hydraulic actuator and we “rebuild” aka take em off and clean em out and toss new o rings on em all the time. Every friction drive on any function on all the old link belt crane is actuated the exact same way. You got it figured out right on the function
Fixing anything is not as bad if you have your basics down. As a heavy equipment mechanic I break down the machine in systems. Hydraulics, cooling and electrical work on the same basics. For every electrical component there is the same in hydraulic. It’s not as bad if you step back and work the basics as long as you can before you have to apply specifics.
Back 10 or 15 years ago my grandfather had a guy from Pakistan try to buy our 1949 cable blade d7. It needed a steering clutch at the time. Apparently that's another area of the world that loves those antique machines.
having worked in Guyana for 12 years from mid 90's on, I can tell you one thing, they DON'T have laptops to bring in the forest and they sure can't understand why you would need a laptop to fix a heavy equipment or why there's a computer on one. They can fix about anything mechanical though and fab one up in no time. Really good that way those Guyanese folks. And CAT repair parts in Guyana is crazy money considering the daily 3rd world salary they get. Land is pretty flat where these are used in the jungle too so the winch option is just because they know how it works and have spares they can rig up from old ones..
Warren you work on so many different equipment I don't know how you can remember them all. How on earth can you remember how to put things back together? I enjoy your videos.
The old "Problematic Winch"... used one for years on a 1972 Tree Farmer. The narrow bands are used to energize the wide bands. The spring loaded band wraps on the drum for braking and slips on the drum while winching the mainline in. The spring is only compressed during freespool. Rust in the housing is the big problem amplified by the brake fluid leaks. I switched mine over to DOT 5 brake fluid.
Yea I worked both kinds and I like the winch skidder if you can't go drop the drag drive ahead then winch in , grapple is lazy man back up to the logs the feller buncher piled up and take off if drag is to big you gotta work at it , the last timber jack was both grapple and winch I was able to get some work done I also turned the front tire backwards for traction backing up the hill to the drag so it was all good
My left earphone is .. no, hold on, it's back.. no .. wait, let me clean out my ear. There, that's bett.. wait, no, it's going out again... Still love your content.
That unit under the panel to the right of the seat is the air over hydraulic control for engaging the clutch. Pulling the control level back engages the clutch. The farther you pull it the more pressure is applied. Pushing the control level forward releases the brake in degrees until full release is reached at the end of the forward stroke which is the detent position. I doubt if there is anything wrong in the winch itself. If the clutch and brake linings are not broken in pieces or delaminated from the shoes and bands, they will work. The air over hydraulic unit is usually the problem. The inside of the air cylinder will get rusty or the seal on the ram wear out. At the least that unit needs to be bled. There are at least three bleeders on it. Use brake fluid. Keep the reservoir full.
We actually put labels telling customers to leave the button on the dash in auto regen on the forklifts. In the 4 years I drove that 08 Pete with the c13 I only disabled the regen 1 time when I was parked in a building
Warren saw video the other night bolt head had sheared off below the surface, the welder took a piece of pipe that was the same size then stuck his rod through it slipped the pipe down over the bolt head and welded the pipe to it, then used a pipe wrench to pull the broken bolt out.
Oh! Don't worry about that camera smudge look. It gives the story this dream like appearance of a medieval love story which every hard working mechanic dreams of while slaying the fire breathing monster metal dragons such as this one, right?
I am currently working on a Hyster D4 winch with a similar problem, lack of use and every linkage rusted solid. Thankfully I have warming equipment is freeing it up
I have been to Guyana and its HOT HUMID and basic, so a computer system is not for them, They will be glad that you put the effort in to fix this, but then you always put in effort. Liquid wrench, hahhahahahaha good one
Warren, John deer did that regeneration option for you mechanics. If the owners/ operators are dumb enuff to disengage that...well... you deserve the work!!!! Its for the mechanics...lol
My guess is they want the winch skidder because it’s so wet there. They need to have a winch so when they get stuck in the mud they can pull them selves out.
My dad was a logger and lived there for years. Went to HS there, my middle brother still lives there. It is okay, just doesn't have the industry to support it like it once did.
I grew up there, too. Always thought I'd go back and retire there, but ah, no thanks. It went downhill fast when the logging and mining were chased out.
id think they want a winch skidder for yanking specific trees across creeks and rivers and lots of cliffs and steep terain aswell but mostly for the fast moving water.
Had to look the tw 25 up. Not familiar with that machinery up in Northern Alberta. Razor Wire fence- I'm thinking I need some of that in my condo building. A few freaking lunatics down here in South Florida.
It's really soft mud out there so I'm guessing that there trying to get the best of both worlds. Be able to winch out equipment and Vehicles and do whatever jobs they are doing over there
Is that a gearmatic 19? I have one on the back of my TD8 dozer. Seems like there is always something wrong with it. And I'm a stickler about maintenance.
Warren, I have to make a protest on behalf of elderly machinery: To whit, that any DRY mechanical object cannot be called NASTY, in that true nastiness is caused by great wodges of half dried grease modified by sitting rainwater,that is, if you cannot stand a spanner up in it, or touch it anywhere without getting covered in semi emulsified clart, said object is not NASTY, just old and neglected like most of us......
The rubber hose you removed from the center of the winch that controls the clutch to winch in is Mickey Mouse. That is not the way the factory plumbed that.
love watching some else figure this stuff out. i am amazed at how we think a like. i am just wondering if this is what i sound like when doing these kinda of jobs.
Warren, just wondering, do you live in California or Oregon? Because in one of your video’s you said you took your wife out for a ride on 140 highway. Love your videos watch them for a while now. You are one hard worker.
Warren you should put some of your merchandise for sale on your page I'm from Maine but I'd love to buy and wear a nice Butte valley welding and repair hat let a guy know
Have you thought of trying an electrolysis bath on that stuck compressor sounds like a 3 or 4 hr soak would be enough to break it loose and you can set it up walk away and come back to a freed up unit
I'd imagine even if there is equipment better for their purpose they'd want what they are used to operating, like when automatic transmissions replaced manual transmissions.
Do you even smell the fluid anymore or are you used to it by now??? Cause ive been doing it for 13 years and the smell of gear oil and hydraulic fluid still fucks my nose up
Warren You look busy as a one armed paper hanger. Where is all the furry helpers ? What make is that old winch? Taken a few Tulsa to Cat dealers out in that neck of the woods .
It's not like there is some crooked rebuilt winch reseller you could depend on... just sayin... glad I watched that one video before ya had to take down.
I hope you never leave UA-cam. The amount of knowledge you have is absolutely incredible. I’m 20 yrs old and I’ve learned so much from you about my 7.3 with your tear down and rebuild video.
I love the way Warren takes the time to explain stuff, most don't do that. That said, its way above my level so a lot goes over my head but I certainly pick more and more as I go. I've subscribed to many channels but keep coming back to this one as it's the most authentic I've found. A hard working guy sharing his knowledge without out the fandom. Thanks Warren.
Fantastic video! It's great to see someone showing these old machines some love!
Gearmatic winches and PEEC engines, you get all of Caterpillar's finest to work on! Been there done that in years gone by. Great work as always.
In 1976 I was less than 6 months out of an automotive and diesel repair trade school working for a logging company when I worked on my first Gearmatic 19, on a 74 model 50S Cat 518. They are notorious for rust in the clutch brake compartment. After 3 attempts at cleaning it up and freeing the components I had it working, but not perfectly as the operator required. The boss call the Caterpillar dealer to come out. I was there to watch and learn. I learned their top mechanic had never had one apart yet. Caterpillar's solution was to replace everything from the clutch/brake drum to the master cylinder. It was expensive but it worked. I have never been able to stop the rust issues in the Gearmatics. My only guess is the heat they create cause condensation on all the bare metal. Use lots of never-seize.
Warren the mechanic that can fix every thing you are so awsome warren thank you for the great Videos
Thank you for the video Warren / we have sound issues in the last 5min some places might be the camera trying to save the battery’s - not being a camera specialist myself - but anyway the content and your honesty is priceless in this video too / thank you for making it
Love ya work mate,cheers from Australia
That’s a large winch. I always learn something from your videos. Thank you.
I’ve done nothing but learn from you warren, but every once in a blue moon I see you do it the hard way and those are the only times I comment. I’m from Maine and I’m old school and I’ve worked on a lot of friction cranes and we still have cable skidders. We just call that a hydraulic actuator and we “rebuild” aka take em off and clean em out and toss new o rings on em all the time. Every friction drive on any function on all the old link belt crane is actuated the exact same way. You got it figured out right on the function
WOW, I was so interested in this repair and then...STOP! Now I need to see the follow up! Thumbs Up!
Is there anything you CAN'T repair? Impressed that you can switch between so many types of machine.
I do believe Warren can / could fix most anything He set His mind to. He is one hell of a mechanic for sure.
John Fox , that’s called experience and due diligence for your trade.
Fixing anything is not as bad if you have your basics down. As a heavy equipment mechanic I break down the machine in systems. Hydraulics, cooling and electrical work on the same basics. For every electrical component there is the same in hydraulic. It’s not as bad if you step back and work the basics as long as you can before you have to apply specifics.
Back 10 or 15 years ago my grandfather had a guy from Pakistan try to buy our 1949 cable blade d7. It needed a steering clutch at the time. Apparently that's another area of the world that loves those antique machines.
having worked in Guyana for 12 years from mid 90's on, I can tell you one thing, they DON'T have laptops to bring in the forest and they sure can't understand why you would need a laptop to fix a heavy equipment or why there's a computer on one. They can fix about anything mechanical though and fab one up in no time. Really good that way those Guyanese folks. And CAT repair parts in Guyana is crazy money considering the daily 3rd world salary they get. Land is pretty flat where these are used in the jungle too so the winch option is just because they know how it works and have spares they can rig up from old ones..
Always great seeing you Warren. I haven’t seen Blake lately, is he not working with you any more? Thanks for the video.
Thanks for sharing bud glad you got that Peter car straightened out👍 take care now!
Warren you work on so many different equipment I don't know how you can remember them all. How on earth can you remember how to put things back together? I enjoy your videos.
I don't blame those guy's in Giana. Hell. Working on today's crap can be a real bugger. Thanks again Warren. Another grate vidio.
Enjoyed watching Warren take care and stay safe
Another great video Warren!! Always learn something! Keep them coming !! Thank you!
The reason you are so darn busy is because you are so darn good!
The old "Problematic Winch"... used one for years on a 1972 Tree Farmer. The narrow bands are used to energize the wide bands. The spring loaded band wraps on the drum for braking and slips on the drum while winching the mainline in. The spring is only compressed during freespool. Rust in the housing is the big problem amplified by the brake fluid leaks. I switched mine over to DOT 5 brake fluid.
We love your content and family
Thanks for sharing Warren 👍🇦🇺👀
Warren do you ever meet your self on the highway coming and going ???
You always get a good my brother you always fixings are very well
Good job man ! Get R done !
Good morning like your vids even if they are above my level of expertise
Thank you.
Always a good video Warren, stay safe out there chief!
I work overnight at a western star dealership now working on after treatment mostly. I miss the old iron and the big equipment.
Yea I worked both kinds and I like the winch skidder if you can't go drop the drag drive ahead then winch in , grapple is lazy man back up to the logs the feller buncher piled up and take off if drag is to big you gotta work at it , the last timber jack was both grapple and winch I was able to get some work done I also turned the front tire backwards for traction backing up the hill to the drag so it was all good
You have a shit load of knowledge brother and you work hard. It's obvious that you come from good old American stock
My left earphone is .. no, hold on, it's back.. no .. wait, let me clean out my ear. There, that's bett.. wait, no, it's going out again... Still love your content.
That unit under the panel to the right of the seat is the air over hydraulic control for engaging the clutch. Pulling the control level back engages the clutch. The farther you pull it the more pressure is applied. Pushing the control level forward releases the brake in degrees until full release is reached at the end of the forward stroke which is the detent position. I doubt if there is anything wrong in the winch itself. If the clutch and brake linings are not broken in pieces or delaminated from the shoes and bands, they will work. The air over hydraulic unit is usually the problem. The inside of the air cylinder will get rusty or the seal on the ram wear out. At the least that unit needs to be bled. There are at least three bleeders on it. Use brake fluid. Keep the reservoir full.
Just a good hard working fellow, that tells it like it is, trying to make a living..Lets help him by subscribing. See Ya Texas
We actually put labels telling customers to leave the button on the dash in auto regen on the forklifts. In the 4 years I drove that 08 Pete with the c13 I only disabled the regen 1 time when I was parked in a building
Warren saw video the other night bolt head had sheared off below the surface, the welder took a piece of pipe that was the same size then stuck his rod through it slipped the pipe down over the bolt head and welded the pipe to it, then used a pipe wrench to pull the broken bolt out.
IC Weld Isac is a talented man
Oh!
Don't worry about that camera smudge look. It gives the story this dream like appearance of a medieval love story which every hard working mechanic dreams of while slaying the fire breathing monster metal dragons such as this one, right?
I am currently working on a Hyster D4 winch with a similar problem, lack of use and every linkage rusted solid. Thankfully I have warming equipment is freeing it up
Used to skid timber with a Cat D4 7U, still have an old spare winch layin in the bone yard.
Appreciate all of the great information.
I have been to Guyana and its HOT HUMID and basic, so a computer system is not for them, They will be glad that you put the effort in to fix this, but then you always put in effort. Liquid wrench, hahhahahahaha good one
Some might say they are smart in wanting Analog instead of Digital equipment.
Warren, John deer did that regeneration option for you mechanics. If the owners/ operators are dumb enuff to disengage that...well... you deserve the work!!!! Its for the mechanics...lol
Operator prob disabled it after the codes came up to try and keep going
My guess is they want the winch skidder because it’s so wet there. They need to have a winch so when they get stuck in the mud they can pull them selves out.
I remember growing up in yreka used to be kind of nice it's a shame what it is now
well his battery was there so it can't be that bad
My dad was a logger and lived there for years. Went to HS there, my middle brother still lives there. It is okay, just doesn't have the industry to support it like it once did.
I grew up there, too. Always thought I'd go back and retire there, but ah, no thanks. It went downhill fast when the logging and mining were chased out.
id think they want a winch skidder for yanking specific trees across creeks and rivers and lots of cliffs and steep terain aswell but mostly for the fast moving water.
Had to look the tw 25 up. Not familiar with that machinery up in Northern Alberta. Razor Wire fence- I'm thinking I need some of that in my condo building. A few freaking lunatics down here in South Florida.
It's really soft mud out there so I'm guessing that there trying to get the best of both worlds. Be able to winch out equipment and Vehicles and do whatever jobs they are doing over there
My skidder had a gearmatic winch on it!!! They dont like sitting if they get moisture on the bands. However they are a good strong winch.
You're a very skilled mechanic, great videos, but you really should consider a better camera.
Is that a gearmatic 19? I have one on the back of my TD8 dozer. Seems like there is always something wrong with it. And I'm a stickler about maintenance.
If you need 6-71 help, Bus Grease Monkey is the man.
Warren, I have to make a protest on behalf of elderly machinery: To whit, that any DRY mechanical object cannot be called NASTY, in that true nastiness is caused by great wodges of half dried grease modified by sitting rainwater,that is, if you cannot stand a spanner up in it, or touch it anywhere without getting covered in semi emulsified clart, said object is not NASTY, just old and neglected like most of us......
Maybe I can make my fortune logging down there…..if I had 1 million dollars I’d log until it was gone!
Cain't blame them love my old Iron.
Another great video ,what's the rating on that winch ??
The rubber hose you removed from the center of the winch that controls the clutch to winch in is Mickey Mouse. That is not the way the factory plumbed that.
love watching some else figure this stuff out. i am amazed at how we think a like. i am just wondering if this is what i sound like when doing these kinda of jobs.
Warren, just wondering, do you live in California or Oregon? Because in one of your video’s you said you took your wife out for a ride on 140 highway. Love your videos watch them for a while now. You are one hard worker.
Warren you should put some of your merchandise for sale on your page I'm from Maine but I'd love to buy and wear a nice Butte valley welding and repair hat let a guy know
Interesting video- thanks!
I would be interested in part 2. Did you get it working? What did ya do?
Thanks again.
Guyana, that’s where the gold is!
Do have the year of the gearmatic 19 /119 also did u get that winch working do have update on utube good video thank u
That fuel filler cap looks the same as the one on my old D2
“Buy clean fuel
And
Keep it clean”
Only time I've disabled the exhaust re gen is when skidding in dead oaks and dry brush in high fire season but farming I can't see a reason to
I think they want winch so they can use it for more than dragging timber
Have you thought of trying an electrolysis bath on that stuck compressor sounds like a 3 or 4 hr soak would be enough to break it loose and you can set it up walk away and come back to a freed up unit
Learned a little today.
I'd imagine even if there is equipment better for their purpose they'd want what they are used to operating, like when automatic transmissions replaced manual transmissions.
How is the rental tractor doing?
This a good one - like all the rest.
Do you even smell the fluid anymore or are you used to it by now??? Cause ive been doing it for 13 years and the smell of gear oil and hydraulic fluid still fucks my nose up
Warren you don't work out of the old wear house? I must have missed something !
Warren
You look busy as a one armed paper hanger. Where is all the furry helpers ? What make is that old winch? Taken a few Tulsa to Cat dealers out in that neck of the woods .
Can’t beat a Cat 518 skidder.
Before spraying the penitrating fluid couldnt he have used a blow torch to heat the piston to release it??
Mickey mouse shit .....🤣🤣🤣
I havent heard that term in a long time ...my dad use to say that almost on a dsily basis 🤣🤣
Work on gearmatic all the time they don't like to sit much, they rust up quickly inside
The pin with the threaded hole anchors the upper end of the brake band.
I have 2006 Dodge Ram 5/9 Cummings got check engine P0148 can not figure what is wrong checked the filter
John Dere Guaranteed to bake your noodle.
Is the cable tight ?
Only thing comes out bottom is spring, rod comes out side cover after band comes out
Every time you use the crane things slow to a crawl.
I do miss the head cap camera angles.
Meyby gearbox no work. Drums clutch filter planetary its long problem :) i like it
They need the winch skidders to winch the log trucks out the woods in the mud
Where are you located? Im in mount shasta just around the corner from yreka small world
I believe he's up in Medford. Not far, from you.
worked on many gearmatic winches, they dont like sittin.
good vid warren
Where is the end of this ?
California maybe Hawaii next?
HAROLD HOT WRENCH!!!!
LIKE TO SEE SOME WORK ON THE 671 GM
That is most definitely not liquid wrench.
It is however a hot wrench.
Have you every tried Kroil penetration oil?
It's not like there is some crooked rebuilt winch reseller you could depend on... just sayin... glad I watched that one video before ya had to take down.
They might be pulling equipment sleds or machinery for gold hunting. Grapple is useless. This is like a low crane and has power tires.
I would call it a fire wrench not liquid wrench
It is called liquid wrench for obvious reasons--- the metal becomes molten and runs.
@@KStewart-th4sk Using fire to make it liquid
Blue wrench
Constantly changing cylinders