How to use 3 Phase Machinery WITHOUT 3 Phase Power!

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  • @jimbojets
    @jimbojets 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video.. These do work with limited capacity.. Not true three phase as more like two phase with time limited three phase capacitor output.. Once the machine is up and running the three phase motor runs technically on 2 phase only once the capacitors are depleted of power.. Confusing I know but think of them as rechargeable batteries that recharge when the Clark PC is on standby. If like me you have a Lathe with a Dual Speed motor then this is of no use because the five wire harness in such machines has a blue neutral powered wire in your motor that has to connected to enable brake/stopping of the motor.. If you leave it disconnected then on powering off the motor it will run on for quite some time until it eventually stops.. NOT Ideal if you plan using a mill, band saw or in my case a lathe and certainly not safe in case of needed emergency stop. If however your machine has a manual brake system then you could use the Clark PC convertor with caution.. Bonus is you can plug n play using this convertor without severe wiring modifications to the machines safety switches i.e safety guards, opening doors etc that disable the machine when lifted or opened..
    Pro's and con's to all these set ups..

    • @wasimanjam4380
      @wasimanjam4380 2 місяці тому

      Hi mate,
      Thanks for your explanation. I am in the process of getting a haas mini mill, which requires 3 pahse power, what do you recommend in such case? Thank you

  • @stun9771
    @stun9771 5 років тому +14

    Well spotted tool info...didn’t even know you could buy such a converter....thank you Sean 👍🏻

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому +2

      HI Stuart! I'm thrilled you found it useful! that's exactly why i wanted to make the video! see you in the next video!

    • @pandabaerhellas
      @pandabaerhellas 2 роки тому

      ... if i see correct, this is a transformer that steps up from 230 to 415 volt( loadless) ~400 with full load.
      Plus 30 condensers to create the 3rd phase...
      Isnt more easy to create as many machines have a 230v 3phase with just one condenser (~4μFarad).
      For many machines its enough to work, because the speed is in any case related to the 50 hertz...
      Better would be a device that creates 3P- 1N -1PE...?! But i guess you need a generator like for old elevators ( 1 1phase motor drives a 3 phase generator)...

  • @EE-bi3mv
    @EE-bi3mv 3 роки тому

    Ive bought three face sewing machine last August, since then I’ve been waiting for few different commercial electricians. Non of them fond a solution.
    Im very very that i saw this video which i think fond me the exact thing im looking for since last year.
    I thank you.

  • @richardharris5336
    @richardharris5336 4 роки тому +2

    Sounds fantastic. Thank you for the simple overview - I just discovered these and was very curious but thought "it can't be that simple". It seems it is! This changes everything....

  • @johnallen8680
    @johnallen8680 2 роки тому +8

    IMPORTANT FOLKS ! Before we all get excited about having a 3 phase supply please read on. These converters don't provide a genuine true 3 phase supply, but will run 3 phase MOTORS .. They are unsuitable for heaters , welding machines and other such devices.. They are only suitable for motors.
    One phase they provide is the true single phase from your wall socket . Clever phase shifting circuitry provides and second and a third by charging up capacitors when you switch on and then discharging the current around the third winding on the 3 phase motor thus starting the motor to turn. By the time the capacitors have discharged that third motor winding is now doing nothing but the motor continues to spin on two phases ( the 'true' phase and second 'trick phase'.) The motor will run quite happily on this arrangement but obviously at a reduced horsepower due to one phase winding of the motor doing nothing..
    They are good devices enabling you to buy up great value 3 phase powered machines that sell cheap on the second hand market when commercial users sell them on replacing them with new plant that can be put against tax..
    If you didn't understand the science earlier, just remember that these static phase converters will ONLY RUN MOTORS.

    • @inflationistransitory
      @inflationistransitory 2 роки тому

      When you say heaters, does this mean boilers in 3 phase coffee machines ?

    • @alanjaff7
      @alanjaff7 10 місяців тому

      Well said

    • @johnallen8680
      @johnallen8680 10 місяців тому

      @@inflationistransitory Yes, any resistive load. This will include any heating elements .. A static phase converter is only suitable for running 3 phase MOTORS. Nothing else.

  • @genevagolah9283
    @genevagolah9283 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks you! Watching in 2021 and I got a 3 phase sewing machine which was perfect but at the time of purchase I didn't read the description, now I'm stuck with my machine and you just gave me the perfect solution. Now I have to find out if they ship to Italy and if I can afford it.

    • @Sam-st5gn
      @Sam-st5gn Рік тому

      I’m having the same problem

  • @lamzmess8946
    @lamzmess8946 3 роки тому

    I think you’re the only one who can help me bro , I really need to ask you couple questions if you don’t mind please .

  • @Pricklysauce
    @Pricklysauce 5 років тому +3

    Didn't know this was possible, opens up possibilities...like your intro

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому +1

      Hi Rob! Thanks for watching man! I'm very happy i showed you something new! and i'm glad you like the intro... it took some time to do!

  • @christiniawattenbach9488
    @christiniawattenbach9488 4 роки тому

    YOU ARE AWESOME I HAVE THREE MACHINES SITTING IN MY BARN BECAUSE I WAS TOLD I NEEDED A MOTOR GENTERATOR SET CONVERTER THIS MACHINE WILL BE SO MUCH EASIER TO USE THANKS SO MUCH

  • @paulurbaniak2242
    @paulurbaniak2242 5 років тому +4

    I really like the intro!
    In germany we don't have that problem, as basically every house already has one (if not multiple) 3 phase power outlets :-D
    Anyway, I enjoyed the video and look forward to your next one.

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому +1

      Hi Paul, I glad you like the new intro! I've got a bit more work to do on it! Your very lucky! I wish i had 3 phase power. In the UK It's very uncommon

  • @MrToolmaker23
    @MrToolmaker23 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for the video Sean. I'm building a new workshop next year so I looked into 3-phase power for possible future machinery.
    Cost to bring 3-phase to my home = $ 1,000,000.00 CDN (conservative estimate by an expert). Nearest source of 3-phase is 6 kilometers away.
    So ... that ain't gonna happen.
    There are always options.

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому

      Hey man! yeah exactly, that is way to much money! hopefully this was helpful. but you still can get powerful machinery with 240v 16amp!

  • @kristinego7929
    @kristinego7929 2 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing this- I need the one in reverse I need a 380/3 phase to work in 220v single phase for my large mixer. I assume it would be in the same concept. 👍 Thanks a lot . I learn quickly. ✅

    • @the_real_hislordship
      @the_real_hislordship 2 роки тому

      You need single phase from a three phase supply?
      Isn't there a neutral on the supply?
      Any phase to neutral will give you the voltage you need.

  • @ElliotLoney
    @ElliotLoney 5 років тому +2

    Good work mate! You're very talented. Subscribed. Keep it up!

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому +1

      bloody hell, can't believe you watched my video! thanks Elliot! I'm a big fan of yours. I love playing tennis as well and that's how i found you on UA-cam. but I would also love to see more Bear Grylls impressions... there absolutely hilarious.

  • @technicalitems731
    @technicalitems731 2 місяці тому

    I have a Hobart 3 phase DC welder. I wonder if this would work for me and make for smooth welding?

  • @allanramgoolam8007
    @allanramgoolam8007 2 роки тому

    Thanks bro, you have eased a lot of my stress, thanks again.

  • @frankslittleworkshop
    @frankslittleworkshop 4 роки тому +1

    Nicely done Sean 😁👍. I've lost count of how many great machines I've looked at buying but then been hit by the three phase demon 👹. This could be a solution. Thanks mate 😁👍.

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  4 роки тому +1

      HI Frank, yeah it's great getting old machine. (normally much better made). before buying i would get that the converter works with the types of motor in the machine.

  • @Chibeze_G
    @Chibeze_G 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this video. It's simple and short.
    I have a 7.5kva 3 phase equipment but the highest Clarke has is the Clarke pc60 which is 5.5kva. How do I go about this please?

  • @AHMi-ArmandsHandsMadeIt
    @AHMi-ArmandsHandsMadeIt 3 роки тому

    Thank you I really needed this info😎👍

  • @Allan-loveswoodturning
    @Allan-loveswoodturning Рік тому

    Hi Sean I’m having problems with my inverter. Keeps showing fault. But I have to get an electrician to clear the inverter. But on watching you video I like the converter but would this be a short term fix.
    Thanks Sean

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  Рік тому

      Hi Allan, honestly I'm not an expert, I don't know, so I don't want to give bad advice. I'd recommend chatting to a electrician.

  • @philipyeboah4379
    @philipyeboah4379 3 роки тому

    Nice one I have a silent generator 15kv single phase and I have MO 1unit printing machine can I use your
    Machine to power my 3phase MO 1unit machine? And how much is the cost?

  • @Badgerworkshop
    @Badgerworkshop 5 років тому

    Thats great. I love old tools

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому

      Hi Matt! thanks for watching! yeah good tools are normally made very well! And it's a lot of fun using them

  • @MaldoInMobile
    @MaldoInMobile 2 роки тому

    Hi, thanks for the info just I need help with a couple welding machines. I have an millet XMT 456 that uses 19.2 kw 3 phase. Please help, I don’t have 3 phase. Thanks

  • @viggaqu6385
    @viggaqu6385 3 роки тому

    Hi Sean, I bought a pahse 3 saw 5 bhp and a Clarke pc40. Unfortunately it didn't work for me. What bhp is the machine you used the pc40 on. Cheers

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob 2 роки тому

    Provided you don't exceed the rating of the Phase Converter, could you run more than one machine off a Phase Converter, simultaneously?

  • @natelarge
    @natelarge 5 років тому

    Will this work with a 120v outlet in the US or is there a different converter available in the US? Awesome find my friend.

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому

      HI Nate. I don't think this one will. but I'm sure if you looked at dealers in your country there will definitely be a version for you.

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому

      @KelMaster Construction yeah they are a lot of money, but cheaper than installing 3 phase into your workshop

    • @JAB1978
      @JAB1978 4 роки тому +1

      NO, you need 220v to get 3 phase power. 120v will not have enough amps to run it

    • @BedsitBob
      @BedsitBob 2 роки тому

      @@JAB1978 America's 120v is actually one leg of a 240v, centre tapped supply.
      You'll find 240v across the two end taps.

  • @solomon2453
    @solomon2453 4 роки тому

    Hi buddy this is fantastic video and very very useful for me. Am in India and I wanna buy this product hence request you to share link to buy

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  4 роки тому

      www.machinemart.co.uk/p/pc-40-3-5hp-phase-converter/

  • @maheshchawda3435
    @maheshchawda3435 Рік тому

    I bought brother automatic industrial machine ,but motor is 3phase ,so can i use this phash converter ,if i i buy this product ?

  • @markb9974
    @markb9974 3 роки тому

    Great video.
    Would this work with a machine that has multiple motors that run at the same time like a cnc machine?

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  3 роки тому +1

      Sorry Mark, I don't know about that. I would contact Clarke or machine mart.

  • @jimcritchlow
    @jimcritchlow 11 місяців тому

    Thank you so much

  • @CC-io3nc
    @CC-io3nc 3 роки тому

    With this being 3.5hp max.. Would it power a bandsaw which had 4hp input and 3hp output?.... Bit confusing that bit

  • @alfonsomartinez3311
    @alfonsomartinez3311 Рік тому

    I have a 3 phase welding machine will it work

  • @Poncho-dd2pl
    @Poncho-dd2pl 8 місяців тому

    So this would work for a 3 phase Cnc mill?

  • @catherinehargreaves9959
    @catherinehargreaves9959 5 років тому

    hi. thank you v .mutch i think this could help alot of people .i wish i could tern the clock back .lignator jack.

  • @williamsimpson2083
    @williamsimpson2083 5 років тому +2

    Does using the converter have any affect on the power of the saw?

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому +2

      Hi William, that's a good question. It persume it might a bit. but i haven't noticed an issue (yet)

    • @NicoSmets
      @NicoSmets 5 років тому

      Yes. You can only have the power that a single phase line can bring you. When you don't overstep the limitaton, a solution like this might be ok, but it not a full replacement of a 3 phase line.

  • @chrishadjipetris6059
    @chrishadjipetris6059 3 роки тому

    If you just want to run only one three phase machine on one phase, you can do it by using a capacitor, instead of buying this converter. For example, I have a 3 phase water pump at home and I use a capacitor for it

  • @NOMADdaf
    @NOMADdaf 2 роки тому

    You can buy these smaller than a shoe box with variable speed control for under $200 USD.

  • @klearman9612
    @klearman9612 Рік тому

    Could this power a 3phase car hoist?

  • @Silmi_sam
    @Silmi_sam 2 роки тому +1

    Mantap boss👍🏻

  • @gilmercastillo4243
    @gilmercastillo4243 2 роки тому

    Hey im planing to buy a cnc machine but run in to 3 phase do i can do this with that

  • @christiniawattenbach9488
    @christiniawattenbach9488 4 роки тому

    ALSO WANTED TO ASK WHERE YOU GOT YOUR PLUGS AND RECEPTICALS FOR THIS MACHINE?

  • @garyfinch1438
    @garyfinch1438 Рік тому

    Has anyone used a phase converter to power a 3phase welder or plasma cutter and is it possible? Im just looking into this as im also limited to 240v. Any advice is appreciated thanks

  • @georgegonzalez3784
    @georgegonzalez3784 3 роки тому

    Does this work on USA as well?

  • @DaveGDesigns
    @DaveGDesigns 5 років тому

    Great shout Sean although I think that bandsaw is getting in your way maybe you should send it to me 😂

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  5 років тому +1

      Hi Dave! glad you liked the video! Not the big one! haha at some point i'm going to need to get a bigger bandsaw! see you in the next video

  • @mariocora2451
    @mariocora2451 3 роки тому

    Mister Sean, could tel me where I can bay this ? Thank

  • @uberdash007
    @uberdash007 Рік тому

    Thanks for in4

  • @thecarcleaner8364
    @thecarcleaner8364 4 роки тому

    Hey Sean,
    Can I use this converter to power a 3 phase large heat press for pressing images on clothes.

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  4 роки тому

      Hey mate, sorry I can't help you will that. I recommend phoning the company as they would definitely know the answer!

    • @thecarcleaner8364
      @thecarcleaner8364 4 роки тому

      @@SeanEvelegh Thanks for the reply

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  4 роки тому

      @@thecarcleaner8364 my guess is yes, but I don't 100% know

  • @sandilemthethwa2614
    @sandilemthethwa2614 2 роки тому

    Bro on the video u plugged ure inverter on a 3 phase looking plug point .is that so ?

    • @BedsitBob
      @BedsitBob 2 роки тому

      What he plugged it into, was a high current, Single Phase socket.
      m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71Gbz2in6qS._AC_SL1500_.jpg

  • @chetantikone6837
    @chetantikone6837 4 роки тому

    Is these converter are in higher ranges as to convert 5 HP motors ???

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  4 роки тому +1

      I think you might be able to get a bigger converter for that yes!

    • @chetantikone6837
      @chetantikone6837 4 роки тому

      @@SeanEvelegh is bigger converter available in market ? I wanted to run bosch 5 HP machine on single phase ...

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  4 роки тому +1

      @@chetantikone6837 maybe the clarke 60 converter, mine is the 40.... I'm not sure though.

  • @paralellosll3849
    @paralellosll3849 Рік тому

    Anyone know if they sell these on the Australian market?

  • @tylerdavenport8661
    @tylerdavenport8661 4 роки тому

    where did you find 20 amp plug equipment, cant find it anywhere?

    • @verminwizard3303
      @verminwizard3303 4 роки тому

      its 16amp plug and socket not 20amp

    • @BedsitBob
      @BedsitBob 2 роки тому

      @@verminwizard3303 The largest one requires 32 amps.

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen 4 роки тому

    I've heard that these don't put out "true" three phase and it's actually two phase, can you confirm this? does it matter?

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  4 роки тому

      Hi man, I'm not a electrician. I'm pretty sure it puts out proper 3 phase, it can power a lot of 3 phase machinery. But you might need to ask the company if your unsure on technicals

    • @Migman2020
      @Migman2020 3 роки тому +1

      @@SeanEvelegh Its not true 3 phase.. the machine you have imitates it just enough to start and run 3 phase motors. Thats why the output is rated in HP and not kw.. you cant power 3 phase space heaters or welders etc .. Powering 3 phase motors is relatively easy when you got something like that.. welders on the other hand.. no even with stuff like rotary phase converters or static converters.. welders torch them over time

  • @beelittle4933
    @beelittle4933 3 роки тому

    Is it suitable for EV charger point?

    • @the_real_hislordship
      @the_real_hislordship 2 роки тому

      No, definitely not.
      No way you can pull 22kw on a single phase.
      Have a look at ua-cam.com/video/qBXKqmtwNOI/v-deo.html

  • @Mystic0Dreamer
    @Mystic0Dreamer 4 роки тому

    Would this work for a more powerful motor? Say you have a 5 hp 3 phase motor. Could you set this controller to 3 HP and have it run the 5 HP motor? I realize that the motor couldn't put out 5 HP, but would it still run at 3 HP? I have a 5 HP 3 PH motor but I don't need that much horsepower. If this unit would run the motor at 3 HP that would be just fine.

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  4 роки тому

      Hey mate, I know exactly what you are saying. however I'm not an expert so sadly I cannot help. I recommend emails clarke and the tool company would definitely be able to help.

  • @lolasharp3471
    @lolasharp3471 3 роки тому

    What happens if your machine has a neutral lead requiring a 5 pin plug?????

    • @jowmarks
      @jowmarks 3 роки тому

      I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THIS TOO

    • @jimbojets
      @jimbojets 7 місяців тому

      Blue neutral wire on 5 pin connection is a powered wire for brake/stopping the motor.. The Clark pc40 or pc60 won't work in that setup.. Simply put you can only connect 4 wires.. If you leave the blue neutral disconnected then the motor will spin a very long time to eventually stopping when you switch off.. Not ideal on saws, mills, lathes etc with no manual brake stop..

  • @paulhauer1598
    @paulhauer1598 3 роки тому

    Does anyone one of a product like this with plug and play ability for the USA?

  • @psiersema
    @psiersema 4 роки тому +1

    What is free phase power ?

  • @aarong8933
    @aarong8933 3 роки тому

    Do you or anyone else reading this really think you need a three phase motor for a machine if the machine comes in either single phase or three phase?

    • @SeanEvelegh
      @SeanEvelegh  3 роки тому

      to be honest, three phase is for much bigger workshops as they have a bit more power and more energy efficient. so you don't need it, and I have since changed my table saw to a single phase one.

  • @conductive-qy7db
    @conductive-qy7db 3 роки тому

    230v inverter will be more compact. This look way to big for that job

  • @kevinclark2856
    @kevinclark2856 2 роки тому

    i need it other way 3 phase to 1 phase

  • @simplytrolling6869
    @simplytrolling6869 2 роки тому

    Wish I had free phase power 🤦‍♂️ power bill keeps going up and up.

  • @stephent1117
    @stephent1117 5 років тому +1

    Once you have used a Wadkin nothing else will do.

  • @the_real_hislordship
    @the_real_hislordship 2 роки тому

    That machine spinning up didn't sound like proper three phase. Motor should start much faster than that.
    Have a look at my 3.phase shredder here and hear how fast the startup is
    ua-cam.com/users/shortsHuJwUg_Tjrg
    If you are really getting three phase from a single phase, it must be pulling one huge current on the phase. Not ideal.
    I'd just get proper three phase in the first place.

  • @MWSRD
    @MWSRD 3 роки тому

    OMG....Nooooo PLEASE Read any "old" electrical motor wiring hand book you can jst add a CAP and change windings on main input and just run on single phase 220V with capacitor......!!! Go On How Much Then?...plz?.

    • @MWSRD
      @MWSRD 3 роки тому

      NOT TOO Mention that a 220VDc P/M Motor has 3Hp and runs on only 4AMPS @220VAc.....mmmmmm standard plug and 1/3rd the size and weight...pmsl...lol BUT...OK?.

  • @joetrupa4183
    @joetrupa4183 2 роки тому

    Howmatch

  • @slowpoke96Z28
    @slowpoke96Z28 3 роки тому

    Sweet. Too bad I’m in America lol.

  • @Ignisan_66
    @Ignisan_66 3 роки тому +2

    American electrical system is so inferior and outdated. In most European countries all buildings (even small homes and apts) get all three-phases 230/400V i.e. 400V between phases, 230V between phase and ground.

    • @the_real_hislordship
      @the_real_hislordship 2 роки тому

      I'm in South Africa and I have three phase 400v too. Can't understand the US and UK being so backward.

    • @AndrewDeLong
      @AndrewDeLong 2 роки тому

      It's all about need here in the states. On a main road such that I live on, 3 phase is readily available. On a secondary or back road that my parents live on, single phase is all that's needed.
      Makes no sense to run extra lines to places that won't use it.

    • @the_real_hislordship
      @the_real_hislordship 2 роки тому

      @@AndrewDeLong seems strange for long runs to have a single phase.
      Three would be more efficient. But I guess it's economics 🤔

    • @AndrewDeLong
      @AndrewDeLong 2 роки тому

      @@the_real_hislordship I can only speak for my region of my state, but as far as our power supplier is concerned, it's cheaper to run one single phase line than it is to run three lines on back roads. The setup requires different construnction on the poles themselves.
      I suspect it might not be so much of an issue if they just burried the lines like any sane person would expect. 🤣

  • @mariocora2451
    @mariocora2451 3 роки тому

    ;

  • @nou4898
    @nou4898 3 роки тому

    69th comment

  • @NOMADdaf
    @NOMADdaf 2 роки тому

    What the hell is "free" phase power? And never heard of a "free" horse power motor.

  • @thebatprince2398
    @thebatprince2398 3 роки тому +1

    lame