Thoroughly action packed video! Pound for pound, those midges are the most formidable creature on the planet. Thankfully, you had Haribo energy to save the day..
I do sometimes wonder why I’m almost finished building a van when I enjoy these bikepacking videos the most!lol 😊 You 2 make a great pair 👍🏼 really enjoyed this
I live at the place (Ardgeal) you passed at 4:07 This area is my playground lol! I've done over to Trinafour the way you went in 2022 on a conventional MTB bikepacking rig and I pushed most of the same bit at Loch an Duin, last year did a loop the other way via Dalwhinnie off road on my KTM E-MTB with just my "day spares" and a second battery and it was a lot of fun riding nearly all of it.....!! Pretty spoiled living here, take it for granted and moan about the lack of conveniences urbanites take for granted, but good seeing it on film! Haven't yet done the loop, maybe in a week or two when the midges have gone but a fine balance of no insects vs limited light... Would rather do it on conventional as a busted E-MTB in the middle of nowhere with bikepacking kit could be scary and exhausting!!!
Oh, and after May until October take a midge net EVERYWHERE, and a spare one....and some thin gloves...and tights/leggings for days like this keeps ticks off too....Your face looked like that guy on "Ideal" who got stung by the wasps lol!!!😂
Always fun setting places you know in other people videos! You definitely have a lovely playground for sure. I feel a bit better other have to push the top bit and not just me. yeah it was a major break down it would be been a long push / roll. At least there is road access to the most of it.
A smidge headnet is essential on any Scotland trip, the wee beasties can ruin your day. I remember your last trip beside loch Etive and you got murdered 🤣 Beautiful scenery and your partner is lovely 😊
Another excellent trip - that track seemed to disappear when you were in the tough bit - great that you got to the destination and the hotel looked nice after that bike ride- the midges looked really bad, I was moaning about a few in Loch Lomond on Monday afternoon, that was something else - look forward to the next one - all the best, David & Rachel 👍
I loved watching the trip through your eyes. Gosh, that was a tough day... but still so much fun! I was very glad of the hotel at the end of it. We were pretty broken 😆
I don’t think I was really doing anything on the technical part there limits, although it was a lot of rough riding and bouncing around for cheap bikes
@@MispronouncedAdventures Yeah I was looking at the specs as I'm an old mountain biker. They look like they held up pretty well to that first day of riding. Looking forward to the rest
Alex, have you checked to see if those bikes have a walk assist function? They should have, that way the motor assists when pushing, from down the bank etc
Interesting to see this, did this route 40 years ago before mountain bikes were a thing. The singletrack section was a lot narrower then, and the river crossing at the north end of Loch an Duin seems different too. You didn't mention that the Gaick Lodge was re-built in a new location in the 1890s, as a massive avalanche wiped out the original, and killed most of the inhabitants inside. You are brave taking heavy e-bikes on a route like that, if you have a bad mechanical a real problem to get them out to a road. And one locked deer gate and big hassle. The drone is interesting, will take a look. Looking forward to part two. btw, I don't think I have ever seen midges as bad as that in the Perthshire Highlands, you were very unlucky.
I didnt know about the Gaick lodge history. I can imagine the route has changed a little bit in that time as for heavy e-bike,sure it would of been a issue if we had a major break down but at least it all walkable and track for the most part or it.
Fantastic viewing on a winter's night and well done to you both. Quite fancy trying this in sections next summer. Was looking at your GPS links but the Aviemore to Blair Atholl one doesn't seem to be working.
@@MispronouncedAdventures just watching your ebike and power bank video from 1 year ago great video pmsl at your funny noise the bike rack is interesting did you do it yourself
rounded to the nearest hundred, but I can’t remember the exact off top of my head. The larger green Ranger is 1000wh and the smaller Grey Ovia is 800wh. The charges are the same, however at 150w each which is why they take 6-8 hours to charge. My smaller folding E bike has a battery which is 250wh. and takes about 2 and bit hours
Hi Alex, we are looking to upgrade from lead acid to lifepo4. Specifically a Roamer 230ah battery. With your Roamer head on, is there anyone you would recommend for fitting it one and adding a suitable mains charger etc? TIA, Ian
Hey! For fitting I’d give us at Roamer a call or email. We have a list of approved installers. If it’s only a Main’s charger you need then you could look at something like the Victron Ip22 12v 30A charger. Or if it’s and inverter and charger then something like the Victron Multiplus
“outdooractive”, they brought “viewranger” app a few years ago which was a really popular app for outdoor professionals in the uk. eventually, they replaced it with outdooractive which I use now and is pretty good
Aye, really only the 2km push was hard work. Whilst the bikes are definitely heavy and you feel it when you’re pushing. when you’re riding it doesn’t feel very different. not familiar with the term donkey panniers though.
Was not sure if you were in Europe with the kilometer thing, being old school English I still work in miles especially when it comes to speed limits.Keep up the good work
@@stevenabbotts7085 I find in the UK we love to switch between metric and imperial for different things. For cars and vans, driving, I would always use miles as the distance and miles per hour for speed. For hiking and trekking, I always use kilometres and kilometres per hour ( that’s how you’re formally trained in the qualifications I have and alll our maps use kilometres ) Weirdly for bikes, I use kilometres for distance but miles per hour for speed 😂😂😂 I guess as my navigation is based off maps which uses kilometres but part of it are on the road and it’s a “vehicle” the bike so I’m more naturally used to using miles per hour for speed
@@MispronouncedAdventures I am stuck with miles for distance and speed it was what we used in training in the Royal Navy for survival and recon exercises but strangely I use kg for weight as that was what was used in my first civilian job
Camping yes, you could stop anywhere along Glen Tromie. If you wanted accommodation, you could probably go from starting in Aviemore to slightly off route to Kingussie. There is also an alternative option where you can take an alternative route along the A1 opposed to the Glen. which might be easier.
Someone has to hold the camera! it’s be fair it was a team effect to get it back up the hill when it’s flipped down to the Loch shore! Those things are heavy and it was steep!
I’m British and I use both. Miles and Mph for distance and speed when driving a car or a van. Hiking and trekking and any form of outdoor map navigation in the uk would be kilometres and kmph as our OS maps are kilometres grid squares. ( and all my qualifications are based on km navigation ) Bikes is a weird one. it’s using maps for navigation so distances in kilometres , but it’s a vehicle so I do the speed in mile per hour.
@@MispronouncedAdventures we all try our best alex, me being a simple Scotsmen I can't seem to convert and as I get older I lose more "little gray cells" 🤣🤣❤️🏴
@stum8374 i’m a Scotsman myself ( arguably with a southern English fairy accent ) 😂 I guess it comes down to use case and what you’re used to. We Brits do have the entertaining bit where we seem to use both for random occasions
@@MispronouncedAdventures I would love to go into a pub and ask for a litre of tenants 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 if your about paisley give me a message !! And Jo's invited if only for water......its a shame your might be getting a new van with all the work and electrics you put in??
Definitely a great combo. Most of the e-bikes I’ve got have quite slow charges ranging from 100W to 150W. Whilst the bikes battery capacity is 800wh and 1000wh. On the other hand, the power station capacity is 1000wh and can be charged at 1300W! Almost 10x as fast
@@MispronouncedAdventures You might think that but at my age i think differently, its you getting old 😆 I reckon you'll go for the VW Crafter derivative. Are you going to show the build and if so when?
@@MispronouncedAdventures Got to be a XLWB ha ha. Look forward to the build. Don't forget the dual battery this time. You'll be amazed at the engine starting difference in the minus temperatures!
@@MispronouncedAdventures check out the German company Seikel for suspension and lift kits for thr TGE and the adblue tank can use some protection. Seikel has a skidplate !
High end western brand e-bikes are normally light and expensive. Cheap Chinese made e-bikes with heavy. Big batteries are heavy, the batteries on the bikes themself are probably 7-9kg
You need to slow down your talking and cut your moustache so we can see your mouth because on some parts you talk way too fast and mumble. I had a job of understanding what were saying, apart from that a good video. This is somewhere I would like to ride my e bike round.
I was specifically growing the moustache at this point as I had an event coming up, which had a 1920 seems so I need a big moustache and to shave off the beard. I do tend to always talk too fast
Jo's a legend. 1 hour of e-biking and signs up for a multiday camping trip! I wish I could folks with that sense of adventure
Ha ha, thanks. I've tackled many a challenge, but e-bikes were definitely a new one for me! 😄
She does like a challenge that’s for sure! she decided to be a relationship with me 😂😂
@@MispronouncedAdventures ha ha 😁
Thoroughly action packed video! Pound for pound, those midges are the most formidable creature on the planet. Thankfully, you had Haribo energy to save the day..
Who doesn’t love the Scottish Midge…. I’ve been all over and spent a lot of time in jungles. midges in scotland are still the worst
Who doesn’t love the Scottish Midge…. I’ve been all over and spent a lot of time in jungles. midges in scotland are still the worst
What a trooper that Jo! Hope you guys had a great time. Looked like a good adventure. More water than I'd have liked anyway.
Definitely an excellent adventure
Hats off to Jo for getting through that and still laughing at the end. Must be a few brusies after rolling down a cliff!
Luckily the cliff was mostly heather and softish stuff. It was the panniers and pedals that bashed up my legs so badly! 😂
Her legs were rather bruised!
I do sometimes wonder why I’m almost finished building a van when I enjoy these bikepacking videos the most!lol 😊 You 2 make a great pair 👍🏼 really enjoyed this
Nice ebike adventure, some scenic wilderness there. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I live at the place (Ardgeal) you passed at 4:07 This area is my playground lol! I've done over to Trinafour the way you went in 2022 on a conventional MTB bikepacking rig and I pushed most of the same bit at Loch an Duin, last year did a loop the other way via Dalwhinnie off road on my KTM E-MTB with just my "day spares" and a second battery and it was a lot of fun riding nearly all of it.....!! Pretty spoiled living here, take it for granted and moan about the lack of conveniences urbanites take for granted, but good seeing it on film! Haven't yet done the loop, maybe in a week or two when the midges have gone but a fine balance of no insects vs limited light... Would rather do it on conventional as a busted E-MTB in the middle of nowhere with bikepacking kit could be scary and exhausting!!!
Oh, and after May until October take a midge net EVERYWHERE, and a spare one....and some thin gloves...and tights/leggings for days like this keeps ticks off too....Your face looked like that guy on "Ideal" who got stung by the wasps lol!!!😂
Always fun setting places you know in other people videos! You definitely have a lovely playground for sure.
I feel a bit better other have to push the top bit and not just me.
yeah it was a major break down it would be been a long push / roll. At least there is road access to the most of it.
Great to see a different type of adventure Alex, and with Jo along for the ride. Those midgets really took a shine to you though.
Insects love to bite me! Glad you enjoyed a different style of adventure
Superb content looking forward to the new van build 👌
Thank you very much, and I can’t wait to get my hands on it for the new van build!
Love the Cairngorms, one of my favorite places to visit when im up in scotland.
@@timsmith9940 been my favourite national park for a long time and for good reason
A smidge headnet is essential on any Scotland trip, the wee beasties can ruin your day. I remember your last trip beside loch Etive and you got murdered 🤣 Beautiful scenery and your partner is lovely 😊
Is there a midge season?
@@seankelly5318 Aye , June 15th to Sept air changes to cold, then they die off but can stil be plenty in October if weather has been rain/mild.
"Smidge" spray is the best for repelling the wee vampires.
@@George-gg1ny Cheers George.
Another excellent trip - that track seemed to disappear when you were in the tough bit - great that you got to the destination and the hotel looked nice after that bike ride- the midges looked really bad, I was moaning about a few in Loch Lomond on Monday afternoon, that was something else - look forward to the next one - all the best, David & Rachel 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Midges were the worst ive seen and ive seen a lot of midges!
the path did that a few times on route
Brilliant, live in Scotland so feel your pain with the midge’s. Safe travels. All the best. 👍😎
Jo is certainly a keeper, get that ring on her finger before she comes to her senses 🙂
😂
Love this channel...been watching earlier videos...hooked.
Glad you found the channel and like my other videos as well
Love these videos of yours! I just got my own ebike and am very inspired to also go cycle through nature.
Glad you enjoyed it e-bikes are definitely great fun for exploring nature with ease
Stellar effort 👍😎
Thank you!
I loved watching the trip through your eyes. Gosh, that was a tough day... but still so much fun! I was very glad of the hotel at the end of it. We were pretty broken 😆
Love the Cairngorms. Interesting way to travel them with the e-bikes too, pushing them beyond their limits I imagine.
I don’t think I was really doing anything on the technical part there limits, although it was a lot of rough riding and bouncing around for cheap bikes
@@MispronouncedAdventures Yeah I was looking at the specs as I'm an old mountain biker. They look like they held up pretty well to that first day of riding. Looking forward to the rest
@kaytronika yeah and they had another 4 days of it as well after!
I have 2 Cyrushers the XF800 and the Ovia they are both amazing e-bikes. I also have the hover drone :) Great video thank you.
Glad you enjoyed the video, Love my Ovia. Like the step through frame. keen to try a Trax
Alex, have you checked to see if those bikes have a walk assist function? They should have, that way the motor assists when pushing, from down the bank etc
They do and we use them quite a lot on the walking uphill and flat sections however it’s quite a low output so it doesn’t really work on the bank
I wouldn't have been a little swollen, I'd have looked like the elephant man with all those midges, great video as always Alex 👍🏻
To be fair, it was pretty bad in the evening luckily it had subsided down somewhere by the following morning
Great effort! Tip for me; buy a net for over my head.
I definitely thought about it after this incident
Interesting to see this, did this route 40 years ago before mountain bikes were a thing. The singletrack section was a lot narrower then, and the river crossing at the north end of Loch an Duin seems different too. You didn't mention that the Gaick Lodge was re-built in a new location in the 1890s, as a massive avalanche wiped out the original, and killed most of the inhabitants inside. You are brave taking heavy e-bikes on a route like that, if you have a bad mechanical a real problem to get them out to a road. And one locked deer gate and big hassle. The drone is interesting, will take a look. Looking forward to part two. btw, I don't think I have ever seen midges as bad as that in the Perthshire Highlands, you were very unlucky.
I didnt know about the Gaick lodge history. I can imagine the route has changed a little bit in that time
as for heavy e-bike,sure it would of been a issue if we had a major break down but at least it all walkable and track for the most part or it.
Fantastic viewing on a winter's night and well done to you both. Quite fancy trying this in sections next summer. Was looking at your GPS links but the Aviemore to Blair Atholl one doesn't seem to be working.
Glad you enjoyed it! odd the link wasn’t working. It might work now,
Really enjoyed this video you have a new subscriber that's one he'll of a bike route brilliant atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Thank you very much! glad you enjoyed the trip so far. Two more videos in this series to come out.
@@MispronouncedAdventures just watching your ebike and power bank video from 1 year ago great video pmsl at your funny noise the bike rack is interesting did you do it yourself
Fantastic, but I've never watched a video, which has made me itch so much. I spent most of it under my fleece in sympathy 😅
Trust me, the bites themselves made me itch! glad you enjoyed the overall video
7:17 Where is that cottage, looks absolutely gorgeous. I'm looking for somewhere to buy in Scotland and restore said premises. Looks unlived in.
It’s not too far down Glen Tromie, just past “Lynaberack lodge” on the map
Less chance of slicing your fingers open with that drone. Great video.
@@rosswhittleton6277 correct! Wasn’t one of the specific marketing points they asked me to mention. But it was the one I was quite aware of!
@@MispronouncedAdventures Lol
What battery sizes do the bikes have?
rounded to the nearest hundred, but I can’t remember the exact off top of my head. The larger green Ranger is 1000wh and the smaller Grey Ovia is 800wh.
The charges are the same, however at 150w each which is why they take 6-8 hours to charge.
My smaller folding E bike has a battery which is 250wh. and takes about 2 and bit hours
Hi Alex, we are looking to upgrade from lead acid to lifepo4. Specifically a Roamer 230ah battery. With your Roamer head on, is there anyone you would recommend for fitting it one and adding a suitable mains charger etc? TIA, Ian
Hey!
For fitting I’d give us at Roamer a call or email. We have a list of approved installers.
If it’s only a Main’s charger you need then you could look at something like the Victron Ip22 12v 30A charger.
Or if it’s and inverter and charger then something like the Victron Multiplus
Thanks Alex, I'll drop them an email
Nice video, looked great. What app was that you were using for the route?
“outdooractive”, they brought “viewranger” app a few years ago which was a really popular app for outdoor professionals in the uk. eventually, they replaced it with outdooractive which I use now and is pretty good
What a brutal afternoon. Those bikes are not light even without the donkey panniers....
Aye, really only the 2km push was hard work. Whilst the bikes are definitely heavy and you feel it when you’re pushing. when you’re riding it doesn’t feel very different. not familiar with the term donkey panniers though.
Just looked up donkey pennies, are they are specific brand which minor similar too?
@@MispronouncedAdventures Just overweight slung over panniers. We have the same as you on our Kommoda mules.
How do they move without pedaling?
They don’t, if we are not peddling we are going either going downhill or just rolling on momentum l. They are PAS type bikes. You need to peddling
Was not sure if you were in Europe with the kilometer thing, being old school English I still work in miles especially when it comes to speed limits.Keep up the good work
@@stevenabbotts7085 I find in the UK we love to switch between metric and imperial for different things.
For cars and vans, driving, I would always use miles as the distance and miles per hour for speed.
For hiking and trekking, I always use kilometres and kilometres per hour ( that’s how you’re formally trained in the qualifications I have and alll our maps use kilometres )
Weirdly for bikes, I use kilometres for distance but miles per hour for speed 😂😂😂 I guess as my navigation is based off maps which uses kilometres but part of it are on the road and it’s a “vehicle” the bike so I’m more naturally used to using miles per hour for speed
@@MispronouncedAdventures I am stuck with miles for distance and speed it was what we used in training in the Royal Navy for survival and recon exercises but strangely I use kg for weight as that was what was used in my first civilian job
Alex, is it possible to break this first day in half because for us that would be too much for day 1.
Camping yes, you could stop anywhere along Glen Tromie.
If you wanted accommodation, you could probably go from starting in Aviemore to slightly off route to Kingussie.
There is also an alternative option where you can take an alternative route along the A1 opposed to the Glen. which might be easier.
Do those bikes have regen braking?
@@paulrobinson3528 no, very rare in e-bikes. Not sure of the technical reasons why not
£37 for a tent pitch?! Campsites are really taking the piss these days.
I would agree that’s why I’d rather spend a bit more money and actually have a hotel!
Pitching my two man tent for £37 is a bit ridiculous
Not much of a gentleman Alex , leaving jo to pick up her bike after her spill
Someone has to hold the camera!
it’s be fair it was a team effect to get it back up the hill when it’s flipped down to the Loch shore! Those things are heavy and it was steep!
He helped in the end 😜
Great vid as usual,1 thing alex miles we are not european please,thank you for saving my sanity 😊
I’m British and I use both.
Miles and Mph for distance and speed when driving a car or a van.
Hiking and trekking and any form of outdoor map navigation in the uk would be kilometres and kmph as our OS maps are kilometres grid squares. ( and all my qualifications are based on km navigation )
Bikes is a weird one. it’s using maps for navigation so distances in kilometres , but it’s a vehicle so I do the speed in mile per hour.
@@MispronouncedAdventures we all try our best alex, me being a simple Scotsmen I can't seem to convert and as I get older I lose more "little gray cells" 🤣🤣❤️🏴
@stum8374 i’m a Scotsman myself ( arguably with a southern English fairy accent ) 😂
I guess it comes down to use case and what you’re used to. We Brits do have the entertaining bit where we seem to use both for random occasions
@@MispronouncedAdventures I would love to go into a pub and ask for a litre of tenants 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 if your about paisley give me a message !! And Jo's invited if only for water......its a shame your might be getting a new van with all the work and electrics you put in??
e-bikes - such a great match for humans... sharing the load...take 8 hours to recharge. How much better a match could one make? A horse perhaps?
Definitely a great combo.
Most of the e-bikes I’ve got have quite slow charges ranging from 100W to 150W. Whilst the bikes battery capacity is 800wh and 1000wh.
On the other hand, the power station capacity is 1000wh and can be charged at 1300W! Almost 10x as fast
Now there is a sign your getting old mate, not much peddling 🤣 How's the new van search going? P.S. Where is the white stuff............not long now😁
Oh, it’s not age. It’s just laziness. 😂
As for the search, I think I’m convinced on the model I want now
@@MispronouncedAdventures You might think that but at my age i think differently, its you getting old 😆 I reckon you'll go for the VW Crafter derivative. Are you going to show the build and if so when?
@@paulrobinson3528 I am planning on a MAN TGE 4WD with Auto box. Not sure if MWB or LWB.
And yes, there’ll be a whole new build series
@@MispronouncedAdventures Got to be a XLWB ha ha. Look forward to the build. Don't forget the dual battery this time. You'll be amazed at the engine starting difference in the minus temperatures!
@@MispronouncedAdventures check out the German company Seikel for suspension and lift kits for thr TGE and the adblue tank can use some protection. Seikel has a skidplate !
cyclizing-ism
What do you mean?
Wow, 40kg E-bike??!! How did they get that heavy?? You'd be better off with a normal bike at ~15kg
High end western brand e-bikes are normally light and expensive. Cheap Chinese made e-bikes with heavy. Big batteries are heavy, the batteries on the bikes themself are probably 7-9kg
Bloody E-Bike cheats😂
Has to be a competition to cheat
Pick it up
You going to help me.
Nah
I couldn’t I was filming 😂
You need to slow down your talking and cut your moustache so we can see your mouth because on some parts you talk way too fast and mumble. I had a job of understanding what were saying, apart from that a good video. This is somewhere I would like to ride my e bike round.
I was specifically growing the moustache at this point as I had an event coming up, which had a 1920 seems so I need a big moustache and to shave off the beard.
I do tend to always talk too fast
@@MispronouncedAdventures No problem.