The Digital Swirl Clones Must Be Stopped

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  • Опубліковано 9 вер 2024

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  • @idek1007
    @idek1007 Рік тому +12

    A test stage with either green hill or emerald coast in it and call it a day.

  • @LOLDudeStudios
    @LOLDudeStudios Рік тому +37

    Finally someone who agrees with me. Digital Swirl has basically become the new Sonic Sound Engine.

  • @DigitalPurgatory
    @DigitalPurgatory Рік тому +11

    90% of these sonic fan games using digital swirl end up just being sonic onset reskins they change nothing about the gameplay or bring anything new, i have only seen a small amount of people actually use this framework to make something new. it’s just how the average open source framework lifespan goes really, it happened to a lot of unity sonic frameworks, it happened to sound engine, it happens to any open source framework. that’s to be expected from something like this, yeah it sucks and i wish it was different but i know one day someone will learn from digital swirl and make something great with it

    • @squad_sonic
      @squad_sonic Рік тому

      Man, I totally understand your point. I won’t disappoint you.

    • @Ezpeezy309
      @Ezpeezy309 Рік тому +3

      The newly released trial of PA3 actually does something new, and knows what it wants to be, unlike these copy and pastes

    • @squad_sonic
      @squad_sonic Рік тому +1

      @@Ezpeezy309 💀

    • @crimsonsomething
      @crimsonsomething Рік тому

      Have you tried out sonic sigma? It's one of the rare and actually good roblox sonic games

    • @RandomTomatoMusic
      @RandomTomatoMusic 6 місяців тому +1

      @@squad_sonic Like it or not, the trial for Pyrite Adventures 3 does actually give distinct abilities to Prof. Baconhair and Apollo, as well as giving a different playstyle to the former compared to his obvious inspiration.

  • @McNoobyy
    @McNoobyy Рік тому +6

    I agree. Its becoming the sound engine. It really sucks because its an amazing engine and it hurts to see this happen.

  • @NotTENSH
    @NotTENSH 7 місяців тому +2

    1:39 so let me explain, dse’s open sourced engine doesn’t use actual models or assets, it uses placeholder assets such as blocks and stuff, also this is a legacy version of exam, not the final one, this was just a game testing the model and animations

  • @cosmic_character3865
    @cosmic_character3865 Рік тому +3

    I'd say a good example of a good sonic digital swirl game would be sonic expedition an upcoming sonic game

  • @SergeantNooob
    @SergeantNooob Рік тому +5

    DUDE EXACTLY! this is exactly why I dont like digital swirl or use it, YOU SEE IT EVERYWHERE, and most of the people that use it previously relied on sound engine. Some people actually use the engine to its fullest potential though like Temp so im also happy to see that

    • @waff64
      @waff64 7 місяців тому

      wanna see a unique one also its not finished its still in development

  • @squad_sonic
    @squad_sonic Рік тому +3

    I totally agree, DSE is the new Sound Engine…
    You have not seen my game yet. We are cooking PEAK, and the announce trailer haven’t show anything yet. Custom incredible music, outstanding visuals, voice acting…

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому

      I’ll be waiting

    • @squad_sonic
      @squad_sonic Рік тому +1

      @@aerogxx That’s good. Btw, What I’m trying to say is that there a a very few good projects being made wih this engine. Although I do think SBA is good. Well, I hope you can wait long enough until we finish the game, since yes. This is a long one. Thank you for your attention.

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому +1

      Ofc!

  • @effortless4588
    @effortless4588 Рік тому +6

    Zayuummm my guy is back !

  • @Nemissaa
    @Nemissaa Рік тому +2

    Sweet Video, Keep Up The Grind And Good Luck In Collage

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому

      Thanks man 💪🏽

  • @russell4822
    @russell4822 Рік тому +3

    I agree with most of the things you've said, also thanks for letting me help you find the games for this video;
    I feel like the Sonic Roblox Community needed a wakeup call on just putting the digital swirl radical build in their game and not changing anything, games like Sonic Chaos Convergence and Sonic Style Framework need more love, because they actually improve upon it, but these games on this video haven't done nothing to change anything, just a bland baseplate just like the Sound Engine.
    But to remedy this, people either need to improve on the engine or make their own, there's no inbetween, and it's sad as well because this engine has tons of potential, but if it's used like this it'll just ruin it.

    • @temp21365
      @temp21365 Рік тому +1

      Sonic chaos convergence actually used my engine , which is even cooler lol. Also thank you 🔥

  • @BLUUR702
    @BLUUR702 Рік тому +2

    Ello they're. I see you made a video of my game! The game has gotten a HUUUUUGE revamp! I would reccomend playing the revamp. Great video!!! I hope the brightest future for your channel. Thanks again!

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому

      Thanks!! which game was it?

    • @BLUUR702
      @BLUUR702 Рік тому

      @@aerogxx It was Sonic Exploit

  • @tedbasher3000
    @tedbasher3000 Рік тому +3

    2:35
    the reason is because the creator is using the placeholder default assets that come with the Radical Build.
    same for the UI
    7:08
    placeholder Radical Build assets.

    • @LOLDudeStudios
      @LOLDudeStudios Рік тому +2

      Even if it was a placeholder they should still change it.

    • @tedbasher3000
      @tedbasher3000 Рік тому

      @@LOLDudeStudios i know, i'm just saying

    • @dizzyholderacc
      @dizzyholderacc 10 місяців тому

      ​@@LOLDudeStudioslunatic dude

  • @MatDevX
    @MatDevX Рік тому +6

    Straight facts. Most of these Digital Swirl game's don't really having anything going for them.

    • @waff64
      @waff64 Рік тому

      except for sonic stardust aka sonic beyond

    • @LoganZ1976
      @LoganZ1976 7 місяців тому

      Uh Sonic Venture?

  • @Hymphonic
    @Hymphonic Рік тому +1

    i Agree, Even I Have Used Digital Swirl, But At Least I Modify Its Physics And Controls To Its Extent Rather Than Just Not Really Changing Anything With Free Model Rigs

  • @iceblizzard_storm
    @iceblizzard_storm Рік тому +4

    The problem with most of these "games" is they're not even games. Most of these very, VERY WIP builds are just shit slapped together under a title that has no relevance to the project whatsoever. Df is an Exem yall im DONE LMAOSAON. There's no direction, no purpose and quite literally nothing unique or distinguishable about these projects. I don't personally know the creators, but if I had to guess, we're probably talking about a bunch of kids slapping whatever they can together to make something "cool". Which is fine to a degree, but can be quite demotivating for others who genuinely want to put effort into their projects because they're being overshadowed by whatever the hell these things are.

    • @peacefulskies9320
      @peacefulskies9320 Рік тому +2

      THANK YOU BRO!!! I'm honestly tired of people defending these games because they are deprived of more Roblox SOA. All they do is change the artstyle and call it a day.

  • @Ezpeezy309
    @Ezpeezy309 Рік тому +2

    My problem with a majority with these is that they have no artistic or creative integrity. They feel more like a gimmick to get likes rather than well made games. These games misinterpret that Roblox is just a place to make tech demos, which isn’t true. And people call Sonic Team lazy, yet actual tech demos are what pull people’s attention? Man

  • @Conikku
    @Conikku Рік тому +4

    Hey! I still thank you a lot of playing my Digital Swirl game before the Digital Swirl engine started getting to sound engine levels of overused. When I first started working on SSRA there was only 1 other digital swirl game that was public and not made by SOA. I was the second person to have a game using the engine publicly, but even still I spent the time to try to set it up myself, design my own HUD, and tried modifying it to the best of my abilities. I recently updated the game to try to work on it again, but the code base is still too hard to understand since the Digital Swirl engine was open sourced with no documentation (as a developer if you are gonna open source stuff you gotta have some documentation). But i'm now done updating the game and leaving it as is. And also I want to give a update on my developer status. I'm leaving the roblox sonic community over personal and other reasons. I have autism and a lot of people in the community harass me because I act immature at times. It's shown to me that this community as toxic and i'd rather work on my own original projects. Along with the fact I graduated high school today and am heading off to college, it's honestly the best choice since I can't be making money if i'm making sonic games. I'd like to thank everyone in this community who helped me improve as a developer along the way, and i'd like to thank you for shouting out my projects, I really needed it. Thanks AeroGX, thank you.

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому +3

      Of course man, I was really amazed by your project. Good luck on your future endeavors I know you’ll go far! 🚦

    • @waff64
      @waff64 Рік тому

      @@aerogxx bro play sonic beyond ultimate again or its now called sonic stardust its new so dont critisize unfinished games because its out of testing phase

  • @hedgyrblx1280
    @hedgyrblx1280 Рік тому +4

    Hey, I'm the creator of Sonic Beyond Ultimate and I kinda get what you mean by the game not having an identity. I've been trying to remodify the digital swirl engine and really just make it feel like it's own thing instead of an average swirl game. I'm remaking it so that it will include its own model instead of just the average generations model and include different stages, and unique level design.
    I really want to make it feel unique compared to other digital swirl games. I don't want it to become another skin simulator.
    I'm pretty sure games like these piss off digi and cucky too lmao

    • @waff64
      @waff64 9 місяців тому

      lol i found you

  • @sonicoversped
    @sonicoversped Рік тому +3

    I completely agree with majority of the points you brought up here, as I also think that Digital Swirl is now becoming overused. I have also been spammed and harassed with "give scripts?" Or "please make tutorial" or being told to give assets from my game online because of my hard work modifying Digital Swirl Engine on my channel. The state of the Roblox Sonic game community is honestly just disappointing if I'm going to be honest.

  • @sonic6054
    @sonic6054 Рік тому +1

    Loving the video assays, I was going to start doing them myself!

  • @DavidsDump123
    @DavidsDump123 Рік тому +2

    sonic exploit was never finished and was cancelled during development

  • @ThunderTheYellowJolteon
    @ThunderTheYellowJolteon Місяць тому

    I can agree that DSE became the new SE.

  • @AngelaAnthony-ky2ts
    @AngelaAnthony-ky2ts Місяць тому

    I honestly don’t see any issue with this. As long as the engine itself is good, that’s all I need, even if it’s unchanged.

  • @OrdinaryGuy898
    @OrdinaryGuy898 3 місяці тому

    The ui in sonic exem is the digital swirl ui the person who made sonic exem didnt change it and also the dash panels are just the digital swirls base things

  • @tactik3
    @tactik3 5 місяців тому

    bro you need to change your fire alarm batteries 😭

  • @CraizyMotion
    @CraizyMotion Рік тому +3

    Most digi swirl games i see is just a framework with gui and startercharacter changed and its just stupid at this point. It bugs me each time I see one of them. I have only honestly seen a few digi swirl games with their own menu and more then a framework (Noob adventure is an example of what i mean) and as someone who makes digi swirl games myself, games that barely change anything are bad. It doesnt even have to be a big huge change as long as its like, a stage and even a slightly good menu I let it slide.

  • @wpetersen3621
    @wpetersen3621 Рік тому +3

    I absolutely agree with these points and appreciate the actual constructive criticism here. I actually gave suggestions to the creator of Sonic Beyond Ultimate to alter the controls of the digital swirl engine in that game, I also made an entirely new map for this game to give some more entertainment and identity for SBU. Now, I'm not promising anything because 101% of Roblox Sonic games get canceled right after they're made, however, many plans for this game are in development (wish me luck cause the main dev is a little bit lazy) like a story, new levels and characters to unlock in said levels.
    Back on topic though haha, I think that a lot of people who make digital swirl games only use the engine and rough out a test area ONLY FOR ATTENTION, cause you know many UA-camrs can cover these games and a lot of people only make games for that reason instead of you know... MAKING A VIDEO GAME!

  • @UltimateFocused
    @UltimateFocused Рік тому +2

    To make a Sonic fan-game work is to make it stand out compared to the others, slapping the pre-made build of Digi Swirl and calling it a day is just boring and repetitive, there is always a lack in originality, and it's always layered over some crappy model, if you plan to make a Digital Swirl game, modify the engine, or add something new to the table, ANYTHING! Just make sure it's original.
    Edit: The "kindergarten" UI is the pre-made one to avoid copyright from Digital Swirl themselves.

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому +1

      I agree with that you’re saying, as they have been stated in the video. Also the “kindergarten” UI can be something different instead of what we got, it does not mesh well with the game’s aesthetic.

    • @UltimateFocused
      @UltimateFocused Рік тому +1

      @@aerogxx Yeah. I've actually been in contact with some of these creators one time and they don't really seem like the type of people to be experimenting with the UI possibilites.

  • @Solscaderty
    @Solscaderty 5 місяців тому

    the thing about these games is that they simply put in models, use the premade models, make a tiny ahh map, and they are finished. a good game needs to be actually _good,_ with effort and time put in. i'm sure many of us can agree.

  • @BongooGaming
    @BongooGaming 11 місяців тому

    The badly drawn ui is the default ui

  • @chaosspider5765
    @chaosspider5765 9 місяців тому

    6:48 they used the rush model for some reason

  • @chaosspider5765
    @chaosspider5765 9 місяців тому

    1:52 this is actually the engine's default ui, they couldn't even be bothered to change it

  • @MegaGamer-hr5us
    @MegaGamer-hr5us Рік тому +1

    The fact that he called my friends game is bad is kinda a dick move

    • @iceblizzard_storm
      @iceblizzard_storm Рік тому +3

      it’s bad. plain and simple. your friend’s game is not a reflection of who he is.

    • @crimsonsomething
      @crimsonsomething Рік тому

      Criticism isn't allowed now?

    • @stratodough
      @stratodough 10 місяців тому

      criticism exists for a reason, you want your friend’s game to look shit?

  • @nikkzio984
    @nikkzio984 8 місяців тому

    Yeah, these "games" dosen't have that much style to them, they are just testing grounds with some changes here and there.

  • @BLUUR702
    @BLUUR702 11 місяців тому

    Hello there. Sonic Exploit was discontinued

  • @effortless4588
    @effortless4588 Рік тому +4

    Yo did u go to prom congrats

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому +1

      Yessir

    • @effortless4588
      @effortless4588 Рік тому +1

      @@aerogxx How was it

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому +1

      @@effortless4588 It was very fun I was fresh asl too

  • @GoofyAhhCatInASuit
    @GoofyAhhCatInASuit 2 місяці тому

    The only digital swirl game on Roblox is Sonic Rising Chaos.

  • @Solscaderty
    @Solscaderty 5 місяців тому

    honestly, for sonic exem, aint it easy to just add a kinda polished shell to the models to NOT make them look so cheap?

  • @Chalk_Stuff
    @Chalk_Stuff 5 місяців тому

    Rising chaos got updated

  • @FluppietheRockruffFan
    @FluppietheRockruffFan Рік тому +1

    Sonic Paradise is a good example of what the Digital Swirl Engine should be used for imo

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому +1

      Not at all

    • @crimsonsomething
      @crimsonsomething Рік тому +2

      Sonic paradise is an example of what the digital swirl engine shouldn't be used for lmao

    • @becauseiexistlmao
      @becauseiexistlmao Рік тому

      Terrible free models

  • @Neshabean
    @Neshabean 4 місяці тому +1

    It's not copying, it's a engine that everyone can use. It's free for a reason, also most of this video is just criticizing other games just because it's not sonic onset adventure or pyrite adventure. In my opinion you shouldn't be judging if you never made a game yourself, atleast they tried unlike you

  • @Abdullahwillanimate
    @Abdullahwillanimate 2 місяці тому

    Ok here is the thing,they are not clones,they take time and also the games can be really good such as sonic rebooted

  • @CoolGlasses01
    @CoolGlasses01 6 місяців тому

    Even the official sonic Roblox game uses it

  • @retroworldfrom90s
    @retroworldfrom90s Рік тому

    5:02
    🎶Dissapear! dissapearing!🎵

  • @SpinKreator
    @SpinKreator Рік тому

    I am using this as an example for my games, what not to do.

  • @Yed_Overwrite
    @Yed_Overwrite Рік тому +1

    Fun fact : Sonic Exploit uses assets from other games like : Itembox icon : Sonic Paradise, Sonic Journeys old station square
    Also the ui is from plain radical build

  • @waff64
    @waff64 Рік тому

    atleast sonic beyond aka sonic stardust is gonna be finished

  • @cypher1233
    @cypher1233 Рік тому

    I'm so glad Sonic Roblox has a new scapegoat I was getting so tired of Sound Engine 🗿 (wait till the kids hear I'm probably gonna make SEv2 a paid product LMAO)

  • @ThatSFFrFr
    @ThatSFFrFr 11 місяців тому

    the "kindergarten sprites" are deafult digital swirl engine sprites. the creator of these games did not made these sprites

  • @maniathehedgehog5102
    @maniathehedgehog5102 5 місяців тому

    Bro the reason why people use digital swirl cuz it is good. It is just like adventure and people like it. Just leave them be. I use the engine to cuz I have no programming knowledge for Roblox. It is a good base. Just please don't attack them. Don't even blame them for using it. Just understand that Game Development is hard and sometimes people just need a base to go off of to help them

  • @waff64
    @waff64 7 місяців тому

    sonic stardust will get better atleast because you were nitpicking it too early but it probably made him make the engine more unique

  • @Ritz0984
    @Ritz0984 9 місяців тому

    I agree when people get the digital swirl engine all they do is just name it sonic adventure 3 sonic adventure 34 all they have to do is get good ideas for example im makeing a sonic rush type game and im using some adventure assets and makeing good stages but now people just get a random model and thats it for there game mostly the sonic frontiers models its sad that people dont make there own designs and models and animations I agree with you on sonic exem but now there working on the game and makeing it better the sonic rig in sonic rising chaos is overused put now they are put more effort into the game when this video came out some people understood this and actually put effort into the game

  • @omegaflowey9932
    @omegaflowey9932 День тому

    Don’t you dare disrespect sonic exem! (This is a joke) lol😂

  • @waff64
    @waff64 Рік тому

    bro sonic beyond aka sonic stardust is gonna become better and i say its out of its testing phase it will be finished

  • @Laveta_08
    @Laveta_08 Рік тому

    Yeah they usually are all complete garbage but this new game Sonic Expedition looks promising to me

    • @waff64
      @waff64 Рік тому

      no they are not sonic stardust aka sonic beyond is not gonna be garbage its gonna be really good with a full game its gonna be a full game also you saying that can be offensive

  • @EndrrNobody
    @EndrrNobody Рік тому

    Why the hell are people just using the default Digital Swirl assets??? Personally, I'm using the Digital Swirl Engine for my game Sonic Cosmos. It's not out yet but I would appreciate if you would review it and share your thoughts. Because at this point idk if I'm going in the wrong or right direction.

    • @EndrrNobody
      @EndrrNobody Рік тому

      Also some of these games are a lot better now, I know this video is three months old so idk if you've played them recently but games like Rising Chaos have been greatly improved.

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому

      @@EndrrNobody Of course I plan to do this soon!

  • @ScoobyDev948
    @ScoobyDev948 Рік тому +1

    You guys have an opinon and I have mine so im gonna share it. This is silly. sonic paridise ringboxes were models off of sketchfab meaning that sonic exploit has their hands clean. In the first place the rings are just an image taken from google images. The people that use digital swirl are learning how to animate and code. Heck some people dont know how to write a single line of code and when they figure out how to use digital swirl and become a popular game developer they will probably be overjoyed and videos like this are discouraging young developers. Thank for listining to my opinion.

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому +1

      It’s constructive criticism, this video isn’t supposed to discourage anyone it’s supposed to show them what can be improved rather than continuing on empty remains.

    • @ScoobyDev948
      @ScoobyDev948 Рік тому

      Fair point. Also keep up the good work on editing i watch you vids their pretty good

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому

      @@ScoobyDev948 Thank you!

    • @ScoobyDev948
      @ScoobyDev948 Рік тому

      Im making my own digi swirl game and i hope some day to add a story mode and all

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому

      @@ScoobyDev948 Alright good luck!

  • @mincecraftredstone6196
    @mincecraftredstone6196 Рік тому

    Pyrite adventure 3 will use digital swirl but the demo is amazing

  • @mcBillyboi-bg6yn
    @mcBillyboi-bg6yn 3 місяці тому

    I know the guy who drew it

  • @KloxinSkullz
    @KloxinSkullz Рік тому

    Bro the sonic exam is my little brothers game he’s doing good got 20k views

  • @BlitzX9
    @BlitzX9 Рік тому +2

    i know you weren't trying to be rude but this video sounds really mean lol

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому

      Ok

    • @waff64
      @waff64 Рік тому

      @@aerogxx dude sonic stardust aka sonic beyond is not mid anymore its still being developed

  • @yobrosonan1082
    @yobrosonan1082 7 місяців тому

    What's the song at sonic rising chaos

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  7 місяців тому

      Megaman X5 - Dark Dizzy

  • @ThatRetroGuy2005
    @ThatRetroGuy2005 Рік тому

    not only that the engine is buggy and I wasted 1 hour to get a engine that doesn't work now I don't recommend anyone wasting their time with this
    originaly i was going to use it but i didnt and just did a no script job which was eh but i wasn't happy with it

  • @waff64
    @waff64 Рік тому

    bri the ui is default

  • @nikkzio984
    @nikkzio984 Рік тому

    They changed the map of beyond ultimate.

    • @nikkzio984
      @nikkzio984 Рік тому

      Thats old footage.

    • @aerogxx
      @aerogxx  Рік тому

      @@nikkzio984 Yea the video was recorded before the update

    • @nikkzio984
      @nikkzio984 Рік тому

      @@aerogxx Im also a roblox sonic dev, if you didn't know yet :)

    • @its_notjordan
      @its_notjordan Рік тому +1

      yeah and i think its going through a revamp using a diff engine (iirc). idk if its reusing another engine or using a custom made

  • @JBlackTheClutch13
    @JBlackTheClutch13 6 місяців тому

    sound engine. seriously.
    some games are good, its like sonic team.
    either using the engine properly, or doing something different and making the game shit.