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КОМЕНТАРІ • 485

  • @rajatbansal512
    @rajatbansal512 5 років тому +186

    Subscribing to this channel has been such an expensive mistake

    • @nl_2652
      @nl_2652 4 роки тому +3

      facts. found my main loudspeakers and dac... and headphone amp here. soon a new pair of headphones too!!

    • @zev51104
      @zev51104 4 роки тому +7

      Expensive? Yes. Mistake? No. However, your friends and family will definitely think you're and f*@ckin lunatic. Sadly this is the truth

    • @max-6035
      @max-6035 3 роки тому +2

      It learned me a very valuable life lesson, self control. A nearly 2000$ very valuable ish life lesson.

    • @disco4535
      @disco4535 2 роки тому

      "I'm easily manipulated by ramble marketing man, and buy plastic that's overpriced and that I don't want or need" 😁

  • @vintageflanker7096
    @vintageflanker7096 5 років тому +356

    Wanna hear a funny thing? : Massdrop cannot ship these "made in France" headphones... to France. 🤔

    • @bpjbp
      @bpjbp 5 років тому +3

      You sure they aren't "assembled" elsewhere?

    • @vintageflanker7096
      @vintageflanker7096 5 років тому +18

      @@bpjbp I don't know. It is written "fabriqué en France" on it.

    • @bpjbp
      @bpjbp 5 років тому +2

      @@vintageflanker7096 "assembled in" and "made in" are two different things. Parts can be "made in" one country, but "assembled" elsewhere -- but still deserve the "Made in" stamp.

    • @nagaame7464
      @nagaame7464 5 років тому +24

      They are made an assembled in France. They are shipped from France and the only thing Massdrop does before sending them is a quality check. You can see this in the comments :)

    • @bpjbp
      @bpjbp 5 років тому

      @@nagaame7464 I have searched the entire Massdrop description. The only thing I see about "assembled" is "The drivers are assembled by a handful of technicians". Nothing about assembled in France.
      Where do you see it?

  • @James-rv3yi
    @James-rv3yi 4 роки тому +72

    These headphones ruined my listening. Now every-time I hear something fall in the background during porn I have to take my headphones off and look for what fell.

    • @alanm6o9
      @alanm6o9 3 роки тому

      hahahahhaha

    • @WSlopeAggie
      @WSlopeAggie 2 роки тому +2

      why watch porn when your headphones *are* the porn

  • @WhiteBoardFinance
    @WhiteBoardFinance 5 років тому +161

    Z you are truly a living legend. You are a combo of cat guy meets anime guy meets audiophile meets Jon Lovitz meets "goes to grocery store in pajamas and slippers" guy. 10/10

  • @thetruth34o9
    @thetruth34o9 5 років тому +20

    5:20 "could come with shoelaces, could be a dead rat in the box" hahahaha

    • @ATK.
      @ATK. 4 роки тому

      You have to eat the dead rat to get the headphones to work, that’s how worth they are.

  • @get2choppa
    @get2choppa 4 роки тому +22

    Condensed review is at 5:52

  • @bharat2580
    @bharat2580 5 років тому +84

    After your journey starting from the 600's now that you listened to almost everything, How about reviewing the hd600s again and see where they stand and how much your taste has changed and what has changed when it comes to how you like your music.
    Because i still prefer my 650s to anything else i heard.

    • @nickpelayo3172
      @nickpelayo3172 5 років тому +5

      I still have my 650s four years after getting into this hobby. Still in my top 5

    • @buster7618
      @buster7618 5 років тому +3

      I'll always keep my 660s in the collection, think I may grab a 600 also while I still can.

    • @alvarg
      @alvarg 5 років тому +3

      same, they have a balance and smoothness to the sound that nothing seems to beat.

    • @babagonzaga
      @babagonzaga 5 років тому +4

      @@alvarg totally agree with that! I bought a pair of LCD-2C a few weeks ago to replace my HD600s. Guess what? 2C's returned, kept my HD600s lol. They were excellent, but had cons I can't live with.

    • @ibage508
      @ibage508 5 років тому +1

      Had my HD600 for seven years at this point. I've upgraded to the ZMF Eikon, but the HD600 will always be part of my collection in some capacity

  • @MarkLloyd-yo4li
    @MarkLloyd-yo4li 27 днів тому

    I cant tell you how many times ive watched this review . This is such a great review of this product that made me buy a pair . Im really enjoying them 5 years later .

  • @anarchohelenism
    @anarchohelenism 5 років тому +33

    Zeos is absolutely right about these. It's scary how good they sound. Endgame for me.

    • @LewisHolford
      @LewisHolford 3 роки тому +2

      Shame about the clipping

    • @anarchohelenism
      @anarchohelenism 3 роки тому +1

      @@LewisHolford You know, I haven't heard it at all in the year I've had them, but of course I can't speak for everybody.

    • @LewisHolford
      @LewisHolford 3 роки тому +1

      @@anarchohelenism that's crazy, my set clips like mad. The Drop reviews are absolutely riddled with complaints about it

    • @anarchohelenism
      @anarchohelenism 3 роки тому +1

      @@LewisHolford Sorry to hear that man. It's a pretty excellent headphone besides that.

    • @shoobopper
      @shoobopper 3 роки тому

      @@LewisHolford Has it always clipped? Wondering if buying a used pair without clipping would resolve this issue.

  • @brad_wilson
    @brad_wilson 5 років тому +5

    8 months later... not only are these still my favorite headphones, but I love them even more after getting a Darkvoice 336SE.

    • @Pyregazer
      @Pyregazer 4 роки тому

      I like them on my Lyr3 with a specific tube, unfortunately..one of the most expensive and older nos tubes @ 100$ per. I would like to pick up a Darkvoice at some point and bonus.. it uses the same 6sn7 tubes that I have a lot of now.

  • @RathOX
    @RathOX 5 років тому +16

    whelp time to Save, just bought a THX 789...next purchase from MD are these thanks zeos

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 3 роки тому

      Did you get them yet? I had the Elear and I’m still deciding if I want to try the Elex. I actually liked the Elear. I sent them back due to a scratch on the top of the leather headband and a scratch on the earcup hanger that I just couldn’t get past. Something that expensive I just want them perfect. I already have the Elegia so I’m doing the .....Do I NEED the Elex thing.

    • @RathOX
      @RathOX 3 роки тому

      @@Assimilator702 yes, yes you them!!

  • @garrettstrand3486
    @garrettstrand3486 5 років тому +25

    Just picked these up for 550 with like 5 hours on them. Best headphones I have ever listened to. Also great for gaming and pinpointing enemies.

    • @johnstone1687
      @johnstone1687 4 роки тому +3

      Garrett Strand do you still use these for gaming? How do they hold up?

    • @eknox4748
      @eknox4748 4 роки тому

      John Stone boy them explosions tho

  • @adamjensen5015
    @adamjensen5015 5 років тому +7

    The Elex are in stock, so they'll keep re-launching the drop until the run out of stock. It's not timed like normal drops where you can only order within the time period, with these you can order as long as they have stock.

    • @semtexxl
      @semtexxl 5 років тому

      Agreed, drop says active for another 24 hours then says inactive for a sec then reset again to 24 hours :) Get them till you can I say.

    • @TraceLight
      @TraceLight 5 років тому

      Adam Jensen yeah guess what happened to the THX amp. RIP

  • @dnalekaw4699
    @dnalekaw4699 5 років тому +48

    11:18

  • @insatiablefondu4587
    @insatiablefondu4587 8 місяців тому

    I got these a year ago, and coming from things like the sundara, and the HD 560S. still lifechanging to this day

  • @redstang5150
    @redstang5150 3 роки тому +2

    Just watching this review for the second time after watching Joshua's review. I like it when you guys have like the complete opposite takes on aspects of a set of headphones.

  • @aldphillip2003
    @aldphillip2003 5 років тому +26

    The Utopias are heavier because it’s a totally different driver design, especially in the segmented magnets.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 3 роки тому

      Driver design is the same. Only magnet structure and actual diaphragm material is different. Overall design of driver is exactly the same between all the Focal drivers.

  • @ELSA-ex4ph
    @ELSA-ex4ph 5 років тому +11

    It would be funny if zmf and massdrop have a deal for zeos to sell their products because most of the audio file community agree that the utopia and the clears are a clear upgrade from the elex but he puts off them both and boast up the elex so boom like the thx aaa 789 gets a influx of sales and praises massdrop

  • @rommyisme
    @rommyisme 3 роки тому +4

    Wow, I love this headphone. I buy them through drop following your recommendation. The detail is exquisite and these are very fun headphones. I like these more than fostex TR-X00 and dt 1770 pro...Although it works brilliantly with jazz, classical and acoustics as it brings life to those instruments, it also works well with well-recorded pop and edm. My maroon 5 tracks become a beast with these headphones. :)

  • @huntersmark917
    @huntersmark917 11 місяців тому

    Almost 5 years later. Just got my pair in based off another reviewer. Came here to see if i made the right choice. Im happy i bought them, best sounding heaphones I have by far.

  • @PikX221
    @PikX221 5 років тому +21

    I kinda glad that I don't have enough money because if I had, this guy would have break my bank account to oblivion :/

  • @sauhamm3821
    @sauhamm3821 6 місяців тому +2

    $399 is a steal for these if you don't own a pair...

  • @thesignof33
    @thesignof33 5 років тому +6

    Great! I thought I was the only freak around still listening to Interstellar soundtracks..

  • @filovirus1
    @filovirus1 4 роки тому +2

    actually this is the best review of Focal Utopia 9:54
    saving up for Elax starting today

  • @aethertech
    @aethertech 5 років тому +26

    58X, 6XX, EleX.
    Imaging Monster. Sennheiser Vocal Goodness Monster. EleX, monster.
    Massdrop, you so gooooood.

    • @Narinjas
      @Narinjas 5 років тому

      I am in Romania ... i do not have them available in Romania ... i also want the THX AAA 789 AMP and the only thing i can buy is the GESHELLI Labs ENOG2 Pro DAC (and yes you can contact Sherri on Facebook because they are currently small they are easy to talk to sadly they can not send other products then their own ...)

  • @billboys9283
    @billboys9283 5 років тому +1

    Totally agree. Awesome headphones. Couldn't believe the price.

  • @swilkins1984
    @swilkins1984 5 років тому +2

    Got this mint on Ebay for $587 on Ebay and it's the best dynamic headphone that I own. I had an Elear and it's a great headphone but selling it for my Elex fund was a great decision.

  • @derp1090
    @derp1090 4 роки тому +2

    Found a used set for 430 shipped. First time in the used market so we still see how it goes.

    • @hedrickoYO
      @hedrickoYO 4 роки тому

      Nice, I once got 1990's from amazon new condition labeled "used" for 349 but I returned them for 660s which I regret

  • @MrPkimura
    @MrPkimura 5 років тому +38

    Focal Elex + THX AAA 789 + Balanced DAC = Making Babies

    • @Sebastian_Athea
      @Sebastian_Athea 5 років тому +18

      THX AAA 789 has single ended back end, volume and gain control. XLR gets converted to SE, and back to balanced after vol control, so balanced dac won't make a difference compared to single ended dac.

    • @andreaszetterqvist4272
      @andreaszetterqvist4272 5 років тому

      @@Sebastian_Athea what are you talking about? Balanced all the way to the headphones

    • @speed0
      @speed0 5 років тому +11

      @@andreaszetterqvist4272 I believe he means it's not a truly balanced amp.
      Sure you can run XLR into it, and 4-pin balenced out, but the hardware itself is not balanced.

    • @tormaid42
      @tormaid42 5 років тому +6

      Andreas Zetterqvist no, he’s right read the posts from the manufacturer on massdrop

    • @Sebastian_Athea
      @Sebastian_Athea 5 років тому +4

      @@andreaszetterqvist4272 Uhhhhh NO.
      "AndrewMason
      THX Ltd. Analog & Power Engineering Expert
      MadMan007
      @MadMan007 There are some very expensive, very nice opamps in there! Supporting truly balanced signal pathway throughout would shoot the cost through the roof, for negligible improvement. See Bruno Putzeys' EDN article on why having truly balanced signal path isn't necessary. "Symmetry is useless". " Differential transmission of audio doesn't mean you need to make a symmetrical voltage " www.edn.com/design/consumer/4429968/2/The-G-word--How-to-get-your-audio-off-the-ground "

  • @pedecia
    @pedecia 5 років тому +6

    HOw do all these sound with different AMPs and not an Italian Reference AMP that cost quite a fortune? Do you still fund the same differences among them with an AUNE or THX789? Would have been nice if you tested them live with a different set of AMPs. Thanks.

  • @kvell24
    @kvell24 9 місяців тому

    Grabbed these for $400 a few years back on a grey market site. To this day I haven’t heard any full sized headphone under $1000 that I like better. It’s up there with Thieaudio Monarch Mk3 as my favorite audio purchase in general

  • @JesterfaceBassplayer
    @JesterfaceBassplayer 5 років тому +3

    25% Import tax, even if my friend send them to me from the US as a gift. That's basically adding the price of Sennheiser Jubilee's with shipping on top.

  • @gbaudio9034
    @gbaudio9034 5 років тому +12

    This is worth mentioning: elex driver bottoms out when pushed loud on bass tracks. Utopia’s magnet is better so it doesn’t bottom out.

    • @lawrencewang3327
      @lawrencewang3327 5 років тому

      Bottom out you mean it drops off heavy and doesn't have good sub bass extension?

    • @julianf2468
      @julianf2468 5 років тому +4

      Lawrence Wang No, bottoming out is the cone literally reaching its excursion limit and distorting exponentially.

    • @lawrencewang3327
      @lawrencewang3327 5 років тому +2

      @@julianf2468 damn sounds whack

    • @billboys9283
      @billboys9283 5 років тому +1

      @@lawrencewang3327 It DOE$ distort bass at certain volumes. These are so good that I overlook it. But it IS happening and may be a buzzkill for some folks. I don't like having to turn volume down so that I can listen. Still, they're worth it.

    • @MFillmore
      @MFillmore 5 років тому +2

      That does happen but only if you listen at VERY high volumes. Isn't a problem for most people. Worth mentioning though.

  • @marklloyd4153
    @marklloyd4153 3 місяці тому

    Sounds like they were all up in your business. Can’t believe it was 5 years ago

  • @luckychuck4818
    @luckychuck4818 3 роки тому

    On MassDrop currently for $550 and THX 789 for $279. Estimated ship date is Dec 11, 2020 PT.

  • @privatestockrecords1
    @privatestockrecords1 7 місяців тому

    I don;t want to list out all headphones I own, some are DT1770x Go, 6XX, Argon, 4XXs and the HE-5SE by Hifiman (at the sub $400 price point). I hosted a demo session with my neighborhood Headphone Enthusiasts, 10/10 said these are the best in my collection. This is my Daily Driver for my in house listening (ENDGAME). on the go. I use my B&O BioPlay EQ or my Acoustic Research ARE-10 IEM. These are by far the best sounding headphone I own for the price. (Not getting into the 4 figures headphones yet. as I dont think my wife will approve.)

  • @brad_wilson
    @brad_wilson 5 років тому +9

    Got a pair of these in the first drop, immediately declared all my other headphones to be trash. It wasn't even close. Paired with the Questyle CMA 400i. Godlike combo which works for pretty much any genre of music (my big three are metal, jazz, and electronic).

    • @dudeekill4win
      @dudeekill4win 5 років тому

      My friend you have my main genres right there. What other headphones that are under $300 that would be great for those genres? I have the 58X and im looking to save up for the THX amp

    • @brad_wilson
      @brad_wilson 5 років тому +2

      ​@@dudeekill4win Depends on what you like out of your headphones. The Massdrop x Sennheiser 58X are great headphones for the price if you prefer a dynamic; if you wanted a planar, I'd say Modhouse Argon Mk3 or Monoprice M1060C w/ a mod to remove the backs and open them up (or the M1060 if you aren't comfortable with doing the mod). Normally driving the Argons would be challenging, but the THX AAA 789 can do that quite well.

    • @brad_wilson
      @brad_wilson 5 років тому +1

      @@alessandrabenz8109 Why? The walls are pleasantly cushioned and I never have to remember to take my meds.

    • @alessandrabenz8109
      @alessandrabenz8109 5 років тому

      @@brad_wilson great,
      sounds like the right place for your headphones.
      and pills cool down the perception

    • @kellanmackenzie5230
      @kellanmackenzie5230 5 років тому +1

      That combo is my exact plan seeing as The Hilariously Xtremen Always Absent Amp 789 sounds to good to be true and I don't like waiting.

  • @avexus7756
    @avexus7756 3 роки тому +1

    Elegia vs. these? Is it just a conversation of open-back vs. closed-back?

  • @turbomustang84
    @turbomustang84 5 років тому +4

    Zeos has moved away from these but something about this review makes me want them just can not afford it yet

  • @ciscomoto
    @ciscomoto 5 років тому

    Merry Christmas Zeos
    Keep doing your thang man.

  • @Gofrette
    @Gofrette 5 років тому +1

    You might really like the Focal Aria 906 speakers, Zeos. What you said about the Elex kind of apply to the 906 too, I’d love to know your opinion about them!

  • @blatancyproductions8246
    @blatancyproductions8246 4 роки тому +4

    Still that great a year later? (Compare against sendyaudio?)

  • @_Digitalguy
    @_Digitalguy 5 років тому +8

    They don't ship to Europe. I'll have to content myself with my HD58X. Are these night and day with HD58X or only slightly better?

    • @johnyang799
      @johnyang799 5 років тому

      Overall i say better? But they are different. 58x is much smoother. elex is more "hifi". Actually they both have flaws and are not perfect. You will enjoy 58x.

    • @_Digitalguy
      @_Digitalguy 5 років тому

      @@johnyang799 what do you think are the flaws of the 58x? I have it since July and only have supposedly "inferior" headphones to compare like the 598 and the focal spirit pro, so I am curious to know what are the flaws (many people consider it better than Hd600). And what are the flaws of the elex? One of the main use for my headphone is playing digital pianos (so neutrality and "vocals" are very important)

    • @bened22
      @bened22 5 років тому

      @@_Digitalguy For vocals the HD6XX (or HD650) is king. Since you don't need soundstage the Elex' might be overkill.

    • @_Digitalguy
      @_Digitalguy 5 років тому

      @@bened22 Soundstage is definitely a plus for piano. The big issue with my Focal Spirit pro is that they sound claustrophobic, which for piano is a deal breaker. The HD598 make you feel like you are wearing no headphones which is what you do when you play a real piano. But the Hd58x, while more intimate, sound better, though the difference it's definitely not night and day... I don't thing Hd6xx would add enough compared to Hd58x, that's why I was wondering if the Elex would make the piano sound even better...

    • @spronkey
      @spronkey 5 років тому +2

      I haven't heard the Elex, but I have heard many headphones that are supposedly "superior" to them. As of yet I don't believe there is a headphone in the world that is "night and day" better than the HD58X.
      The HD800/s is more detailed, and faster. But it isn't as enjoyable to listen to, as it's a bit cold and sterile, and voices don't sound quite as natural. The Hifiman planars (500, 560 etc) are great, and detailed, and "fast", but again the 58X/600/650 isn't that far behind in those respects, and sounds better in others. Same with things like the higher end Grados (of which I'd say the HD6xx range is just outright superior), Audeze LCDs.
      I've always maintained that the HD6xx range (and that includes the 58X) gets you 90% (or higher) of the way there. The "better" headphones cost multiples and get you maybe a few percent more at best.

  • @bergenknudsen1037
    @bergenknudsen1037 Рік тому

    Welp the fact you said "these are better than the HD800s"...yup I shall the Elex.

  • @ksceltic1104
    @ksceltic1104 4 роки тому +2

    I see a lot of discussion on the clipping problems with the Elex, so why is there no mention of this on the review, either to confirm, negate, or whatever?

  • @WhiteBoardFinance
    @WhiteBoardFinance 5 років тому +7

    Review the Emotiva Airmotiv T2s!

  • @sonicthehedgehog989
    @sonicthehedgehog989 5 років тому

    Glad I got the elex like 3 or 4 months ago.
    I joined the zues iem drop so that can be my Christmas gift lol, actually late Christmas gift cause it will arrive on April or before that according to massdrop.
    From what I heard the zues is a monster one of the best audio output devices, big praise, and a big promise.
    I hope if Z can review it.
    I got a feeling it might beat the ZMF.

  • @black_n5492
    @black_n5492 3 роки тому +1

    Would the Schiit Magnius and Modius be a great combo for to power these? Or is there some other option. Also, in the two years since this review was made is there a better contender in this $700 price point?

  • @thecardoski
    @thecardoski 5 років тому +2

    Ordered one today.

  • @traindeluxe3789
    @traindeluxe3789 4 роки тому +1

    What is the difference between Elex and Elegia? Anyone?

  • @filipp7611
    @filipp7611 5 років тому +2

    Hi Zeos! Why you never talk about file formats, in what quality music in your playlist? If it is flac, what is the source? What do you think about MQA, which is great imo? Did you hear Tidal’s master quality albums?Will be great to have any video about that from you.

    • @TraceLight
      @TraceLight 5 років тому +1

      Kirill Filippov he doesn’t really believe in file formats.
      He brought up DSD up once but just brushed it off.
      I think Zeos believes more in “well recorded” instead of “well done file format.”

    • @filipp7611
      @filipp7611 5 років тому +1

      Phoenix Scp ok, but there is a huge difference between mp3 128kbit and FLAC / MQA and when Zeos say - “this DAC is amazing” I really want to know what exactly this DAC converting now. I also never use dsd, because its almost impossible to get records in this format from studio, but I can here huge difference using Tidal masters (MQA) and what is more important Tidal get those records directly from artists / studios.

  • @cliph6068
    @cliph6068 5 років тому +1

    I see you have the ADI-2 DAC. Very solid performance with the Elex.

  • @cisco150
    @cisco150 4 роки тому +1

    Hey guys im back have choosen theses head set what would you guys remove from the list. Im licensing to Rap, Hiphop, Reggeaton,Trap, Spanish Music . Focal ELEX vs DT 1990 PRO, hifiman ananda, HIFIMAN SUNDARA, HD 6xx. Like some bass, vocals and highs dont like bass overpowering my music

  • @franzb69
    @franzb69 3 роки тому +3

    i would have bought one if this didn't have so much qc issues

  • @williamhedges7441
    @williamhedges7441 2 роки тому +1

    Do you think these go better with a digital or tube amp?

  • @dudeekill4win
    @dudeekill4win 5 років тому +1

    2 rem wallpapers in a little over a week?!?! What is this madness?

  • @Stettenbauer
    @Stettenbauer 5 років тому +1

    Bought them, highly recommend.

  • @bbqribz570
    @bbqribz570 5 років тому +5

    A Friend of mine has these and i got to listen to them for a week. I couldn't put them down and i immediately wanted to sell off my 3 other pairs of cans and just have these.

    • @nsonnson
      @nsonnson 5 років тому +1

      May I know what amp u and your friend using for Elex?

    • @bbqribz570
      @bbqribz570 5 років тому

      @@nsonnson a violectric hpa v200 with USB dac. A bit overkill, but still pretty nice

  • @nl_2652
    @nl_2652 4 роки тому +2

    Z, could you add a link to those cables in the description?

  • @thechef5531
    @thechef5531 5 років тому +1

    The people on the Utopia headfi thread are losing their shit bro. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
    Now you have me interested in the elex. I wasn't going to even consider a Focal headphone after being extremely disappointed with the Utopia I had for 2 weeks.

    • @rustygates3367
      @rustygates3367 5 років тому

      I really don't think you've listened to a Utopia properly. These headphones, especially the Utopias are heavily DAC/Amp picky - so I'm talking about listening out of a real good amp. Not your phone, not something like a Schiit, something that has a high SINAD - more like a THX AAA 789, Pro iCAN, output of a Chord DAVE or TT2 because I had the Clear (which sound better than the Elex) and Utopias while I owned the Schiit Jot & Bifrost, difference not so much, then I upgraded my gear to the Chord and the Utopia absolutely blew the Clear away, so I ended up selling it. The Utopia is such a fun HP to listen to - it just had better layering, body, texture, much better "crunch" and "twang", MUCH faster transient response, very punchy indeed, imaging top notch. Overall timbre was incredible. There is no way, speaking objectively re. driver design, material selection & measurements the Elex can sound like anything close to the Utopia. The price of the Utopia has dropped to 2500 USD (thats what I got mine for), but for 700 USD, the Elex is def bang for the buck.

  • @TraceLight
    @TraceLight 5 років тому +12

    Zeos please don’t.
    There isn’t any THX aaa left anymore almost right after your review came out.
    What’s next, massdrop running out of Focal Elex?

  • @enjoshi-godrez8775
    @enjoshi-godrez8775 5 років тому +11

    Seriously, how do they compare to the erupt's?

    • @jakehardy9610
      @jakehardy9610 5 років тому

      I'm wondering that too considering he at least implied they are still better than these. Whats the point of spending $700 on a headphone that, at most, a $400 headphone can do better

    • @commenter9703
      @commenter9703 5 років тому +1

      En Joshi-Godrez these are tremendously better. From other people that have tried Erupts later in the prototype phase they said they sounded almost exactly like the X2, which is not a good thing.

    • @enjoshi-godrez8775
      @enjoshi-godrez8775 5 років тому +3

      @Commenter Jesus, you just want to hear what you want believe don't you kid? Like fucking child. No, many people had high praise for the erupts, you would of seen this if you weren't busy trying to bullshit me about having seen any "reviews" for them (which they themselves admit is not a review because they are not the finished product). Yes, some said the bass was anemic, while others like zeos, said it was fantastic. There were even ones that said the sound stage was no better than 650's, yet zoes and company said they were the widest they heard. They were all prototypes, sooooo...non of them were the finished product. All different tuning, for the purpose of feedback so they can improve it. Why would they stop at "the youtubers" (which only zoes did one) to get feedback? You have no evidence to say otherwise, and considering for moment (something you'll never do 😂) that the erupt team them selves said so, you never will. Understand now, immoral shit bag? Or will you still go on this vandeta for the headphone that raped and killed your family. As why else would you spread flagrant lies for such a product? Who said they sounded the same as x2? Who said these were not prototypes? Who said they all had the same tuning? I'll be waiting...forever. 😂

    • @samulhardif8331
      @samulhardif8331 5 років тому +2

      @@commenter9703 Wow, you just can't stop telling lies. What an immoral sack of shit. 😂

    • @commenter9703
      @commenter9703 5 років тому

      En Joshi-Godrez well Zeos is a terrible reviewer anyway. But I’m not lying. Take 30s and look up their tour before you just assume I’m lying.

  • @zoomingpoop
    @zoomingpoop 5 років тому

    My bank account, my wallet and my girlfriend hates you but my ears love you so much. Why u do this to me Zeos? As long as you keep making these videos I wont have any money.

  • @feedback7341
    @feedback7341 5 років тому +4

    Hey Zeos, I'm probably just as much of a "gamer" as I am an... "audiophile", would these headphones work well for gaming as well? (I play Squad and Arma, stuff like that)

    • @Hunterssoldier
      @Hunterssoldier 5 років тому

      They are overkill for gaming but yes they definitely would sound great.

    • @agentorange8530
      @agentorange8530 5 років тому

      I didn't like them for gaming. Something about the upper mids are way too elevated. That might be good for hearing footsteps but it just felt like they were throwing too much sound into your ears. Like when I was playing World of Warcraft, the music was low but then when I got into combat, the sound effects were way too loud. And they sounded like they were on another layer from the music. It was making me cringe. I sold them back when I got them from the first drop so it's been a while since I heard them. I do wanna see how they are again to compare after having a few more headphones now.

    • @feedback7341
      @feedback7341 5 років тому

      @@agentorange8530 Thanks for the input; I'd probably have to hear them to be sure, like with any audio gear. I am currently running HD650s, and I personally love them, great for both music and gaming.

    • @feedback7341
      @feedback7341 5 років тому

      @@Hunterssoldier Probably would, but you never truly know until you've experienced it, and opinions also tend to vary haha. Thanks man.

  • @semtexxl
    @semtexxl 5 років тому +2

    AKG's are made in Slovakia not Slovenia.... great review btw!

  • @willsbox635
    @willsbox635 5 років тому +2

    Elex(699) or LCD2C (599), that is the question.

    • @dillacorn_linux
      @dillacorn_linux 5 років тому

      If you want detail retrieval Elex. Their both enjoyable cans.. Prob the Elex

  • @PerfmonX64
    @PerfmonX64 5 років тому +3

    I am going to have to get my hands on a set of these at some point in time. I'll probably wait until after the "Zeos Effect" has done it's thing, and pick up a set secondhand on eBay for somewhere in the $450-$500 range.

    • @brad_wilson
      @brad_wilson 5 років тому

      You can buy mine, from my next of kin after I'm dead. 😜

  • @scioarete7987
    @scioarete7987 3 роки тому +1

    How do they compare with the Sundara?

  • @c_o_l_m
    @c_o_l_m 5 років тому

    I guess I'll hem and haw for a few days on whether or not to find a pair to swap with my Æon closed-backs. I miss open-back soundstage.

  • @buster7618
    @buster7618 5 років тому

    Merry Christmas you funky animals

  • @brandonlim5709
    @brandonlim5709 4 роки тому

    I miss pre corona zeos. Quarantine killed all our brains 😅🤣

  • @ytuser0110
    @ytuser0110 3 роки тому

    It's probably possible cuz drop just jump over resarch cost and just bearly hits it with a stick on way down.

  • @WillJukedTheBox
    @WillJukedTheBox 5 років тому

    Dow - drops 600+ points*
    Zeos - BUY THESE $700 HEADPHONES RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!

  • @humanbass
    @humanbass 5 років тому +3

    The Clear is not bass heavy at all, I swear there is something wrong with Z setup or the pair he got.

    • @riseuplight
      @riseuplight 5 років тому

      Vitor Roma Z is sensitive to bass. He prefers balanced eq and detailed mids and highs I think.

    • @brownlab8898
      @brownlab8898 5 років тому +3

      There was some technical witchcraft going on with the giant Italian amp he used to test the clears. Something about minimum output impedance or whatever.

  • @turbomustang84
    @turbomustang84 5 років тому

    Now I want these but I gotta add that the Hifiman - He4XX , Sennheiser HD-6XX along with HD-58X are must own Headphones .
    And all three combined are hundreds less than the Focal's .
    But if these are still available after the new year I'm getting these .

    • @grimtrigg3r
      @grimtrigg3r 5 років тому

      Robbie Gray hifiman he400i for $160 is the deal of the century. Can’t believe how amazing they are. The detail, the bass. I use them for critical listening and they are incredible.

  • @Gokhanaj
    @Gokhanaj 5 років тому +13

    What about.. LCD 2C vs this?

    • @MFillmore
      @MFillmore 5 років тому +3

      If you want planar bass above all else then get the lcd2c. If that's not super critical get these.

  • @2thousand639
    @2thousand639 4 роки тому +1

    Zeos Pantera: You can only pick one: Focal Elex or ZMF Aeolus?

  • @andresgallego5727
    @andresgallego5727 5 років тому

    I'm considering these as an upgrade to my Grado SR325e, Hifiman HE400i and Senn's HD558, as you can see i have been stuck in the sub 400$ hell for a long time lol.

  • @JonathanGurgul
    @JonathanGurgul 5 років тому

    I’m trying to play some of the highest quality digital piano sounds ever recorded and want to feel like I’m at a real Grand Piano. Are these the ticket? My HD558s are pretty good but a little muddy. I’m thinking the clarity and soundstage on these would be amazing in comparison to what I have. Any help is appreciated :) (I also have the Beyerdynamic DT990 on my radar)

  • @ShamelessDiablo
    @ShamelessDiablo 5 років тому +1

    Focal Elex or wait for finalized Vokyl Erupt. I'm interested in trying something with a very wide soundstage after using the HD650's for so long.

    • @NiSHAN256
      @NiSHAN256 5 років тому

      Elex don't have very wide SS, if you want to experience some try the m1060, they have very wide SS

  • @PaulClay46masonWV
    @PaulClay46masonWV 5 років тому +1

    Zeos?
    For the next 5 yrs you can only listen to one set of headphones. Which ones would you pick?

    • @tooitchy
      @tooitchy 4 роки тому

      These. I've had them 2 days, and these, easily, wipes out most of my collection, still have genre specific cans, but the elex are the most versatile, they sound great no matter what you're listening to, something that cannot be said about most of my headphones.

  • @vote4ulvio
    @vote4ulvio 4 роки тому +1

    Focal Elex or Audeze LCD X??

  • @vladistic7500
    @vladistic7500 5 років тому +2

    how do they compare to something like the LCD2 classic?

    • @s7robe297
      @s7robe297 4 роки тому

      I have both. Very well imo. Great compliment to the 2C. More analytical, the soundstage is just as wide, but with no “dead zone”. The imaging is fantastic! The dynamics are insane on these too, they’re one of the most speaker like headphone I’ve heard. Easily worth the price especially at the prices they go for used.

  • @PaulClay46masonWV
    @PaulClay46masonWV 5 років тому +1

    I think I'd trade all my headphones and IEMs for the Elex

  • @djhmax09
    @djhmax09 5 років тому

    Clears ftw!

  • @victoro8392
    @victoro8392 5 років тому +1

    Any chance you could try the Elear with the Clear or Elex pads?

  • @QuintilianA
    @QuintilianA 5 років тому +6

    So Massdrop did the same thing to Focal that they did to the Sens lineup.

    • @dillacorn_linux
      @dillacorn_linux 5 років тому +1

      They didn't change the HD 6XX. The HD 6XX is a HD 650 if you didn't know. The HD 58X is not really a HD 660 S from my testing. The highs aren't as sparkly and some vocals and music aren't as detailed. Sound stage is ever so slightly wider on the HD 660 S. (It's hard to notice the difference in sound stage)
      The Focal Elex is a different beast of its own. Not handled in any way like Sennheiser was because the Elex obviously isn't a cheap broy

  • @HHRS
    @HHRS 5 років тому

    If I use PC with 3.5mm and spdif output, what DAC should I use? budget $200 or under. Together with Elex headphone with THX AAA 789 amp. Thanks

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n1 4 роки тому

    This sounds like the review the night before Zeos goes to rehab lol

  • @jacobbecker5122
    @jacobbecker5122 5 років тому +3

    Z helped make my decision to go with these and frankly, Im a little disappointed. There is a low frequency driver rattle at MODERATE volumes, not high but moderate. After looking into it, the manufacturer acknowledged this issue and states that it's "by design". Really wish Z would have addressed this. You're a "loudy" Z, where were you on this?

    • @eliotjacobsen4361
      @eliotjacobsen4361 5 років тому +1

      I get this, too. I don’t like the “by design” response. I wonder if it’s fixable somehow. I think I once saw a subwoofer design with a magnetic spring that kept it from bottoming out. Seemed like a clever solution.

    • @TraceLight
      @TraceLight 5 років тому

      Jacob Becker yo hurry you got a potato.
      Contact Massdrop and file it as a defective pair.
      I know people who have there and play them super loud with low bass without clipping.

    • @jacobbecker5122
      @jacobbecker5122 5 років тому

      @@TraceLight I have already done that. They sent a replacement. It's exactly the same.

    • @TraceLight
      @TraceLight 5 років тому +1

      Jacob Becker hmmm try once more.
      If you get a 3rd potato, then it’s time to request a full refund.

    • @TraceLight
      @TraceLight 5 років тому +1

      Jacob Becker in the meantime.
      What songs cause the drivers to clip?

  • @Poisermeister
    @Poisermeister 5 років тому

    So imaging is good, but are they on par, or close, with 660’s? Looking for audiophile/gaming headphones, soundstage and bass made my wee wee hard but I do need positional accuracy for the occasional competitive FPS

    • @dillacorn_linux
      @dillacorn_linux 5 років тому

      Focal Elex is better. The HD 660 S are great though how he describes the sound stage is not the same way he described the HD 660 S sound stage. The HD 660 S sound closer to a monitoring headphone with a less enjoyable mid range and low end. The Focal Elex tares a new hole for enjoyment in music as these headphones are mainly focused toward.

  • @RLEEJY051298
    @RLEEJY051298 5 років тому +1

    How does it compare to the vokyl erupt

  • @ciaranleoghann5879
    @ciaranleoghann5879 5 років тому +4

    It's actually very funny because Marine, Community Manager at Focal stated on the french audiophile forum Tellement Nomade that the Elex is nothing but an Elear with the Clear pads. No modifications were made by Massdrop or Focal but this.

    • @FusionMusic
      @FusionMusic 5 років тому +1

      lol I actually heard about this too, I guess at least now Elear owners can easily convert their Elear to Elex.

  • @V00ify
    @V00ify 5 років тому

    well the elex pads cant be purchased anywhere except via massdrop...someone should do a test of elex vs clear vs elear vs utopia pads....I wonder who has access to all this stuff?

  • @sharpblad3
    @sharpblad3 5 років тому

    why do you have the kef speaker upside down? and why noone didn't mention it till now??? 🤔

  • @holybiscuits7714
    @holybiscuits7714 5 років тому

    16:28 Where do you find all of your backgrounds? Also, I see Natsuki on the far left, 5th from the top

  • @Lucasfonoli
    @Lucasfonoli 4 роки тому

    What about elex vs hd 800s? I am thinking about getting both, elex for music and hd800s for gaming. Should I? Or just get the elex for the thx aaa 789?

    • @spartanV48
      @spartanV48 3 роки тому

      Elex is great for gaming, at least competitive gaming

  • @Macias
    @Macias 5 років тому +1

    So basicly i should buy new headphones every moth.
    Or not. Next month Z will review something "better"...

    • @Stettenbauer
      @Stettenbauer 5 років тому

      These are worth it. But you know at the end of the day, the stuff will be there when you're ready to upgrade. I probably won't buy anything for another 6 months.

  • @michaelwhitaker1972
    @michaelwhitaker1972 5 років тому

    I'm sure you can part with something on your wall if the Elex are that good.

  • @owenpatterson9355
    @owenpatterson9355 5 років тому +1

    Z, do you think you could get your hands on the Focal Elegia? They have a lot of rave reviews, and the general consensus is that they sound a lot like the Elex, but are closed back. I would love to hear your opinion since every other reviewer spends too much time talking rationally about sound, and not screaming at headphones.