The History of Vanden Plas (Reworked)
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Once a brand name endemic to the British motoring industry, the coachbuilder Vanden Plas was able to survive for decades beyond many of its rivals thanks to its long association with British Leyland, a partnership that changed its role from bespoke bodies to ultra-luxury interiors for regular saloon cars.
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So THAT'S who they were! Such noble intentions and a fine body of work over the years, brought crashing down by mere mention of the words "British" and "Leyland"!
Fascinating history, well researched. Thanks very muchly👍
The Daimler limo can still be seen rarely as a wedding and funeral car as they made a hearse variant.the r
420 also was a civic mayoral limo in Oldham 😮😮😮😮
A thorough and expertly made video. Many thanks for clarifying the history of the marque.
Thank you for the re-edit as this video is very succinct towards the central marque. Cheers from Straya.
Allegro Vanden Plas - you can’t polish a turd but you can roll it in glitter.
I love them and i want one!
The Allegro was deeply flawed but not terrible - up against the escorts and vivas of the day. The estate was actually very good.
@@GaryJohnWalker1 I dispute the 'deeply flawed' notion - flawed, but not deeply. I had three! To be fair, two of them were estates which were brilliant. And my Dad had an Allegro Equippe as a company car, which had absolutely fantastic roadholding - but leaked oil through the gear selector rod seal and had porous alloy wheels that needed to be pumped up a lot. Frustrating faults really.
Other than the doors fell off thru fatigue around the hinges.
@@howardsimpson489 Really? I never heard of that happening before. Ford Capri doors were famous for sagging massively and having to be lifted into place. I never had a problem with mine
I'd just started work at Jaguar in October(?) 79 when the DS420 limo assembly was brought into the same big corrugated iron shed I was based in at Browns Lane. We were building the new Jag testing system that of course banished all Jag electrical component reliability issues forever (hahaha) in one corner, but the DS420 assembly was basically just a big circle of cars in diff states of completion in the main concrete floor space. I guess just keeping the steady stream of mayoral and hearse orders filled.
excellent presentation as always Rory
Back in the day I recall the first time seeing the Allegro version and saying to myself the equivalent of WTF!
What the Dickens?
The Allegro looked rather like a stubby XJ6, not ugly.
I actually like the All Aggro... If VP did the deed on the estate version, I'd be all over that like a cheap suit!
Seats were plush and a bit of wood, but it was indeed an ugly iteration of an already ugly car.
@@Jpvashon Compared with many of the cars on the market today it is 'par for the course'. Have you seen the wheels that come with the latest Roller or some of the current BMWs?
Most amazing history, they did so much and of such high quality. Sadly today many people think VDP means that you will find folding picnic tables in the back of a Jaguar.
I live near Brussels. A long time we had a Vandenplas Rover and Jag dealership in the town of Tervuren. I knew one of the grandsons who went to school with me. Now it is a Subaru dealership. I always asked myself how a Belgian name badge came on a British production car. Now I know. In the 70ies Behermann (originally Malines based cy as Ragheno) took over Rolls Royce, The worked with Canadian Bombardier which sits now in Bruges. Behermann acquired Land Rover and Range Rover acting as a distributor in the Belux. They also acquired the import of Mazda cars. I was there on their premisses to do my thesis in Public Relations. They gained the distribution of Saab cars for the Belux too. It was a big player in the car and car insurance industry in Belgium. Today after having multiple brands like Mitsubishi they do Fuso. The day my ex-wife and I married Jacques Behermann lend me 1 Rolls Royce with a chauffeur and 9 Saab Turbos with chauffeurs for ...totally free. Hello...
My family had a vanden plas 1100 in the 60s/70s. It had to have an engine from an Austin 1300. My main memory is the wood trays with drink saucers for the back seats.
I think it would be kinda cool to have an over the top luxury small car, like a fully luxed out Honda Civic.
Known in the later days as Vanden Plastic :( I had a Montego VP and it had a few nice touches, but nothing compared to others.
Superb content Sir thank you (:
I've heard that it should be pronounced ''Plaz'' not ''Plah'' because the brothers came from the Dutch speaking part of Brussels.
Correct. UA-cam should offer an AI tool to replace words like this that you inadvertently got wrong all the way through.
It became a seperate English company, and therefore entitled to its own pronunciation.
I don't know if Plas rhymes with arse or ass but either way, that's what BL made of it with the Allegro.
Thought you might have mentioned the proposed VDP version of the Austin 1800 Landcrab and the wedge Princess.
FINALLY it's out for the public!
very well made!
Thanks for the video. So pleased you pronounced Vanden Plas correctly. So many people don't. I remember from my youth, when Car Magazine had their 'The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly' section at the back of the magazine, for the Allegro Vanden Plas, under For, they said 'Those Impervious to its looks' - which always brought a smile to my face.
It's [Fan Der Plass].
He doesn't pronounce it correctly. It should sound like ''Plaz'' not ''Plah''
Pronounced “correctly“ according to whom ? The BMC/BLMC seemed to think that giving it a French sound might make it sound more sophisticated.
But, we know now what conceited asses were at the top of that company.
AROnline confirm the Flemish origin of the company and hence the pronunciation of the name - van den Plasssss !!
Surprised that Ruaraidh made this decision, as he frequently reference AROnline.
Likewise, with the pronunciation of Michelotti - there’s an old video here on UA-cam of a documentary on Triumph , and some of the company toffs are clearly heard pronouncing their primary design company as “Mitchellotti”, rather than “Mickelotti”!
No you're all wrong. In the 70s/80s everyone pronounced it as in the video. Nobody said Plass.
@@michaelkay3197No… I’m afraid, “everyone” didn’t! I was there ! Some did , some didn’t. Always saw it as people trying to make themselves sound “posh” with their little bit of mis-guided French !! When it wasn’t even French. Indeed, the original Austin Princess, from the 1950s was made in conjunction with their Vanden Plas subsidiary. They were later badged as, and were known as, the Vanden Plas Princess - with the hard “s” Plas.
Great video,.Factoid: in Dutch/Flemish it would be 'van den Plas'. Factoid #2 van den Plas would be listed under P in the phone book. 'Vanden Plas' makes no sense at all over there.
The IDEA of putting a Rolls Royce grille on an Allegro. I mean - must be THE FAIL in automotive history.
Great vide as always. However, the final S in Plas is voiced
Great and interesting video, I owned Austin ambassador 2.0l vanden plas , nice car at the time except of the gear box !!, as you know ARG dropped the vanden plas name and for example the Austin montego est was renamed the Austin montego estate Gsi . Regards mark
9:15
That's a Series 3 Jaguar XJ6, not a Series 1 Daimler Double-Six Vanden Plas.
"Average working families". What planner are you on Ruairidh
That was a very interesting, history I did not know ...well done and researched ... as to British leyland ... there is ALLWAYS more tax from a car than a train ticket ...
Do you know the identity of the roadster that appears for only a moment at 04:13? It has a strong resemblance to the second generation Nash Healy which was made much later.
Thanks
Great video as always, but please check your pronunciation. Vanden Plas doesn’t have a silent S.
Correct if you go by the Flemish/Dutch pronunciation.
@@jfv65 yep, which is where the Vanden Plas family originated, so the S isn’t silent…
Yes it does.
@@fredburley9512 it really doesn’t.
@@chrisderby986 it was an English company, therefore its Dutch origins are irrelevant, like Daimler.
It's a real shame that JLR (Jaguar Land Rover) is unwilling to purchase the rights to the Vanden Plas name (Outside North America) off SAIC.
Because it would be an excellent name to use for their highest spec models, including Range Rovers.
The real shame is that MG was sold to and destroyed by the ChiComs.
10:15 He stalled it! Or is that how the all agro started as standard 😂
9:28 .. no such thing as a Maybach w123.
It's Fan Der Plass.
Whys the audio screwed up? Sounds terrible
Jaguar/Daimler double-fail and the Mercedes W126: Never compare two things that are a universe apart from each other. I had several W126 and one (1) Jaguar XJ. No effing contest.
I've never got to the bottom of its pronunciation, Vanden Plarr or Vanden Plass? For what it's worth I'm a Plarr kind of guy, but what the hell do I know...
It's Plas like glass
The ugliest car ever is the allegro vanden plas. Hands down nothing comes close. Looks like a car from a bad acid trip
As a kid, seldom, but sometimes we saw a Vanden Plas vehicle. We in Switzerland always struggled with how to pronounce it. That was, when reaching the age of driving, a killer. I will not drive a car that I can't or don't know how to pronounce. Besides, it sounds sort of Dutch/Belgian/Fish head, a region we here distinctly dislike. You can imagine that I have not watched a Formula One race ever since the jumped-up, entitled Verstappen has emerged.
Out of curiosity, why do you dislike that "region" ?
The Vandan Plas Allegro is beautiful!🤩
Please ditch the AI narrator!!! 😠
This is Rory’s real voice
Can't stand that AI voice narration