Don't Make this Anchor Trolley Mistake Kayak Fishing
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- A big wave is about to hit... the anchor snags violently on the bottom in strong current ... or even a nice fish is about to wrap around the anchor line .. don't grab frantically for a knife and hope you can cut the line (or your trolley) in time - just connect the anchor to the boat the correct way! Two weeks ago, I attended a seminar where the guide related a story. He was fishing in his kayak, and the anchor snagged, pulling the boat over. He said he was able to grab his knife and cut the anchor trolley free since he could not reach the anchor line. Really??? If a guide can make this mistake, others can as well. Do it the right way!
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Why has no one else mentioned this - watched 10-15 videos on anchor trolleys - so simple yet so effective, definition of intelligence! Thanks!
Thanks! Appreciate it!
Great tip!I anchored in deep water, in strong current, had my boat positioned wrong.Next thing you know, I was swimming. The current rolled me.Well I had my anchor connected wrong, and couldn't get to it.I am definitely going to use this system!
That almost happened to me as well when I was in my canoe a few years ago - and that caused me to adopt the slip knot. I did not use the trolley correctly when I first got my yak - for some reason, my dealer did not explain this when I bought the yak. Guess they figure everyone already knows it.
Can't believe I didn't think of this. Thank you
Any time!
Thx grandpa tom!! Well done!
Hmmm. What you may want to consider is putting a small float on the end of your anchor line . Leaving the float end on the outside of the anchor trolley (the same as your anchor) thread a loop through the trolley and back to a cleat. I use a jam cleat as it's super fast to unhook. To untie, just pull the rope out of the jam cleat and let the loop pass through the trolley and you're free of the anchor yet it's easy to retrieve because of the float on the end.
Exactly right. That is what I do. I swapped out the cleat I had for a jam cleat a few months ago. Perfect solution since I do not have to do the slip knot any more.
It might also help if you tied a small float to the anchor rope in such a way that it stays with the rope when released as you have displayed.
Ciao
Yes, I do that... the video did not show that very well. You make a critical point!
Thanks, your advise will no doubt save people. Ciao
thank you. 🤙🤙
You bet!
Just wondering with this method where and how you attach a float to your anchor rope so that you can recover it after you release the slip knot.
I discuss the float in this video. So far, this approach has worked fine.
ua-cam.com/video/bRXOt4jXCZg/v-deo.html
Uh! What?! I've never had this problem with my trolley. Looks like one of those sales commercials where the people in the video are clumsy and In worst case scenarios.
You are lucky! Just be alert to the possibility :-)
This is THE best anchor trolley tip I have ever seen. Thank you for the safety tip.
Wow... thanks! I did not figure this out until after I had to cut an anchor in a strong current. Glad to help.
should add to that also rigging the anchor to trip. so if it does get caught tight you can also recover it easily.
Can happen fast, even in a moderate current!
Anchoring from the side of any vessel is a mistake you can drop a bow anchor and face the currents. You will have to use your paddle to control a passing boat wake. Many will not slow down for kayaks or canoes and some of those boats produce one hell of a wake so; you’ll have to learn how to use your paddles to keep level.
If you are anchored on the side and you experience a huge wake or tidal change or tidal surge; you are going over.
Thanks for posting. Didn’t even think about the anchor going under the kayak like that. Subscribed!
Man i like this guys channel. He's smart, safety conscious, speaks at the same speed that i hear, and keeps it hip with good background music. New subber here. Fish on 🐟
I appreciate that
This video could save somebody’s life
Yes, there is a float on the line to recover the anchor. Here is the best solution for that - ua-cam.com/video/KxYEu_aRrNo/v-deo.html
Check out this playlist for other kayak anchoring hacks and tips:
ua-cam.com/play/PL8egn41J7Go9a6jDjLyymK-Rv2sk_JxtT.html
That seems like the most common sense way of using an anchor trolley. I use a carabiner instead of a solid ring on my trolley so I can get the anchor line into it via the spring loaded opening and I don't have to thread the end of the anchor line through it- I have my line wrapped around a side-winder line reel-I don't want all that loose line laying at my feet. And I use a zig-zag cleat
I like the carabiner for easy setup! Good point on the loose line as well!
After looking at things, I just clipped a carabiner to the solid anchor trolley ring (I did not replace the ring with the carabiner). It should work just as good though and I can pull the ring/carabiner to whichever end of the yak I want it-then lever lock it in place. There are more ways to tie an anchor line to a trolley system than you can shake a stick at!
I have a 3 person Coleman scannel what size mushroom anchor should I go with I'm fishing freshwater not too much carrot?¿?
I am not a fan of the mushroom anchors if you are fishing in current or wind. They do not seem to hold very well. I like the claw anchors. I discuss them here - ua-cam.com/video/D-oMf_XTXpw/v-deo.html
Just use a carabiner, a lot quicker than tying a knot...
I guess it depends on how you connect the carabiner. If there is a lot of pressure on the rope, pulling the carabiner taut it might be hard to unhook
I freaking love this tip!!@
Ummmmm slip knot? Why bother having a cleat. Figure 8 as its designed for, faster to release and you can adjust rope length.
Sure, that works
As a river fisherman I like this tip. I switched from a 10' sink where I could anchor 360 from cockpit to NW Slayer 13. I had to go to an anchor trolley even though I knew the dangers of anchoring in current. Very good solution. I've also seen the anchor line stretch out like a bow string out of reach.
I almost flipped my canoe on the New River using it just tied off. I love the slip knot now!
As much as I hate to admit it, age does diminish one’s strength. Not even two cans of spinach will pop my muscles like Popeye anymore. Thanks for the ideas about smart ways of dealing with the ravages of age.
Thank you I didn't understand how to install the kit I purchased and some of the parts probably would have made that mistake.
Great tip! Glad I watched this.
Great information. I’m new to fishing on kayaks so I have a question. How do you recover your anchor line? Thanks 👍🏻
I should have made a bigger deal of it in this video. You can see the blue float I have attached to the line. Here is a more recent video discussing anchors and options. ua-cam.com/video/D-oMf_XTXpw/v-deo.html
Just for spits and giggles, was this filmed near Bayport / Pine Island area of Florida? Looks just like it. Thanks.
I wish! Fishing is Florida is so much better than here in NC. It was at Fort Fisher south of Carolina Beach.
This video was very enjoyable to watch; and, it is good kayaking advice, too.
Thank you for posting.
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good thing i stumbled on this. Thank you! this is the best idea.
That was an excellent tip. If you are in some running water, the chance of an anchor getting fouled and you getting your kayak swamped is a real danger.
Thanks for the emphasis. btw... love your channel. Subscribed under my personal account
Great tip. Anchor trollies are not my favorite way to anchor. This is a great tip.
I really appreciate that! I'll work even harder!
Stop it! Just put a stainless steel carabiner type clip or snap clip on the end of your anchor line with a float 2 or 3 feet from the end. Clip it to the trolley loop, and drop the anchor in, pull trolley to back or front where you want it. If you need to disconnect, two pulls on the line and the loop is back at your side, unclip and let go, anchor away and float floating for retrieval later. Done! Unless your anchored in a 20 knot river rapids, you can easily pull the line.
I do have a float on the anchor - you can see it in the video. I did not highlight it. Thank you for your solution as well.
I REALLY liked that tip. My anchor and trolley are on their way as I write this, I’m picking up my new fishing kayak this weekend and have been watching videos on rigging the anchor. You are the only one I’ve seen that has this tip. I Consider it very valuable. Thanks for the knowledge!
I really appreciate that! I'll work even harder!
I had mine out once on my local river musky fishing the big lures pull a kayak every which way floating down stream, i found out turn around and face upstream that big musky lures will allow you to slow drift and keep the kayak straight and not have to used a anchor! Cast side to side in a small river and you can pretty much cover the whole river at a nice slow pace
Good Point!
Always wondered why people used those cleats with a trolley, thanks
Happy to help
I visit NMB/MB frequently. Any prospects catching fish at the mouth of the “swashes “ along that section of the beach.
I have not fished there. Up here, the beach has random productivity since there is no structure to hold fish.
but how to recover it when its now at bottom with the rope at bottom also. dont you need some float also attatched to the anchor rope so when you quick release it its floating and then you can recover it?
Yes, if you look at the video, I do have a float attached. The only way to recover it if you do not rig it this way is to pivot your kayak downstream of the current to allow the trolley to come back to the top.
Great tip. I'm new to Kayaking and never would have thought about that issue.
This is one of the better "tips" channel.
I absolutely love your vids. Watched almost all of them! Would you do a video on power pole hacks? The micro power pole is $500. The next step is berniesriverstick.com, manual power pole, and a great idea, but it's $300. I'm thinking you could figure out how to reverse engineer that. I'd even buy the plans off ya! What do ya say? Do a power pole hack video?
I saw another vid where a guy made one. I want to try it out and see if it really works. Stay tuned.
When you say you can retrieve the anchor later, you mean you can buy a new one right? Thanks for explaining the proper function of an anchor trolley. Makes perfect sense.
No, you put a float on the line and you can paddle back to it. I failed to highlight the float in this video. I explain more in this video = ua-cam.com/video/D-oMf_XTXpw/v-deo.html
Truth! And I use paracord for an anchor line so I added a small fishing float so i can recover my line and anchor. Have had to disconnect the anchor a couple of times...it's important.
Yes! I have a float on my line in this video as well.
I just tie on a buoy to the anchor line and attach it to the trolley via carabiner. Then if I need to cut loose I just unhook the carabiner and return to my anchor later and reattach the carabiner to the trolley.
Good idea! Thanks
Certainly a v common prob...other vid tips do not cover this critical bits. V glad, I found this vid
I really appreciate that! I'll work even harder!
Is that Bobby’s dad. Hank is that you lol
I love all your videos!
Great tip to avoid anchor danger. I just wish there was some way to incorportate the slip knot with a retractable (clothesline) system.
Keep hacking!
Roger, The Smiling BassHole
That would be great. Nothing worse that pulling in the anchor and getting wet.
OK, yes, it has to be free but.... how to put a float on it to MAKE it recoverable?
You say recover it later... well if you can't find it, you won't so....
WHERE would you put the float - because if you never know how deep you will be, how would you know where/how to attach the float to make finding the anchor possible?
I have everything for installation that I need right now, except the answer to THAT question, lol 🤣
Here you go - ua-cam.com/video/bRXOt4jXCZg/v-deo.html
@@KayakhacksFishing Thank you Sir!
I have a 15 lb flat anchor. Is that ok to use? Or is it too big? I have no idea where to put it in my boat
I think 15 is overkill, but if you can get it in and out of the kayak, I do not see why it would not work
Use a quick release. That’s what I did. It works great.
Yes, I agree. I have one on the kayak but did not mention it in the vid
I've got outriggers on my kayak is there a way to keep the anchor trolly and anchor line out of it
The issue will be to work the anchor around your outrigger. The only thing I can think of is to do something like my buddy did in this video (ua-cam.com/video/iNqDlqyA7yM/v-deo.html) and move the anchor attachment around the outrigger. One point on the video... like I said in this one, be sure you run the anchor line through the loop to attach to the kayak.
what's the advantage to a slipknot over tying a cleat hitch, given you have a cleat
The slip knot releases instantly
I'm sorry but that's not a slip knot. That's called a half hitch.
Guess it is just another name for the same thing... www.animatedknots.com/slip-knot
Anchoring a kayak add a few degrees of hazard to the activity so be dressed for submersion; that’s what I tell my divers before leaving the dock. “DRESS FOR SUBMERSION; YOU WILL BE WET.”
Thanks for that point.
I just now finished my PFD. I made sure it was comfortable or I wouldn’t wear it.
I wont be putting one of those things on my kayak I’ll run a line through the bow cleat or stern cleat and let the rope go. But I have 300 feet of anchor line so I can’t imagine I can’t solve my situation within 300’. Even if fishing in 40’ or 100’.the main thing is don’t lose your kayak if you fall out. And I’ve been in river water or the Gulf you are not going to catch up to a kayak if the wind is blowing and your kayak has a skeg. It’s gone!
Great tips on the trolley system I will use but my only issue is impressionable people/kids watching are now thinking it's OK to go out alone with no life jacket on based on what they see in this video. We're going to just pretend you have one of those inflatable PDF's under your long sleeve shirt because if you flip that's whats going to save your life no matter what. Keep those hacks coming and GL out there on the water!
You are correct, I should have had my PFD on when doing this video even though I was next to the shore. I think I recorded a few others this day as well in the same 'attached to the shore' location.
@@KayakhacksFishing Thanks for the reply. Good Luck on your next fishing adventure!
This confuses me a bit, it still seems like you are hooking the anchor the same way as anybody always would, just adding another line between the o-ring and the cleat? I can see how this would more easily allow you to pull the o-ring back towards yourself, but I do not see how this makes it easier to cut the anchor loose...
unless what you are saying is the anchor is simply threaded through the loop as opposed to tied directly to it, and then tied to your cleat. That makes sense. Although I'd love to find a way to also have a float on the line so that you could recover a severed anchor...
Yes, through the O ring and then to the cleat. I did not discuss the float in this video, but you can see it at 2:04 in the video.
Incorrect method, the loop should be through the hoop so if you have a line buoy it will not get caught, also a zigtag cleat is far more controllable, the wrong slipknot getting wet is a bad day. Still good to inform people that weren't thinking at all about the dangers before
I did change out to a cleat a bit after this video. Not sure what you mean by the loop and hoop. My line buoy is about 6 feet on the other side of the loop, so it will not get caught.
@@KayakhacksFishing instead of pulling the end of the rope through pull the side of it through making a long loop to your cleat, this way you can adjust length and you can keep your buoy at the end of the line for better retrieval, I keep the float and extra line in a compartment where it can't tangle with things.
great idea!
So how do you recover the anchor? Thanks for the video.
I have a float on it. You can see the float in the video. Here is the solution I use now - ua-cam.com/video/KxYEu_aRrNo/v-deo.html
How do you retrieve your anchor if there is no float on it?
lol. You cannot. I did not highlight in this video that my system has a float. If you look, you can see it at th e start of the video - it is the blue section of pool noodle. I am also holding the float in my hand at the end. For details, check this recent video - ua-cam.com/video/D-oMf_XTXpw/v-deo.html
I fish mostly ponds so not really an issue, but for rivers this is great advice to have a way to unleash fast. Carrying a knife is an option but then you lose the anchor.
god damn genius/
Thank you so much! Very helpful.
You're very welcome!
Smart. Thanks
As always..great tips. I am fortunate to have watched this..great information..keep'em coming..
How about a video of what side to put what on the yak?
I am a Lefty; I hold pole with LH and retrieve with RH.
What is the consensus of putting fish-finder, anchor trolley, and other stuff on each side of the boat?
I think it all starts with the anchor trolley. That requires a lot of space to manage and forces clutter to the other side. Anchor goes on one side, fish finder o the other to balance. Good idea for a video! I'll make one. Thanks!
Thanks. After windy summer, I've caved and plan to install trolley. Good detail
SLIPKNOT 🤘
I'd just tie a "cleat hitch" on the cleat rather than a slip knot. It's made for exactly that purpose, of safely releasing a loaded line and it's super fast to tie once you get the hang of it.
Here is the link to how to tie it: www.animatedknots.com/cleatvert/#ScrollPoint
EXACTLY!
I always paddle with a sword. Its Florida.
lol! Pirates and Gators!
People TIE THEIR ANCHOR to that point? WTF? How is this not common sense?
You would be amazed at how often I see the anchor tied to the ring.
Ty
This is the only true anchor QUICK RELEASE video on the tube beside the one I've made which was inspired by this video although mine sucks because of the wind noise
Thanks - I will check out yours in search of improvements for mine!
You don't need to use a slip knot with a cleat - www.netknots.com/rope_knots/cleat-hitch
But the cleat hitch cannot be released with one pull when tension is on the rope. Did the url go to the wrong knot?
Ha! You made me look, but yes, that's the right link.
Most of the Cleat Hitch is a figure 8 'wrap'. Tension should decrease with each wrap, and there should only be minimal tension on the last wrap (which will come mostly from the tag end). If there is too much tension, just add an extra wrap before the last one that's 'flipped', though 2 wraps and the flipped one should be sufficient most of the time. The direction the load is coming from determines the direction of the first wrap, and that's important. To release, grab the line where it last loop crosses the tag end and pull it off the horn, then unwrap. You can also partially unwrap and use the mechanical advantage of the first wrap to either pull line in or let it out slowly, allowing you to fine tune the position of the boat on an anchor or at a dock.
It can be done one-handed, but isn't 'quick release' if that's what you're going for. But, it also won't come undone as easily as a slip knot or a highwayman's hitch (which can also be tied to a cleat) if the boat is bobbing in a wave and there is not constant tension on the line.
Good points! Thanks
Several questiins. How long is your rope? If i have 50-100ft. How do I store it ? then when I relese it Do you have crab trap float or dog trainer on it to keep it afloat? Sorry 63 cancer patitient trying ti figure everything, before i buy. looking for a used peddle yak due to not working in over a year. Sure aren't many blems or used peddle yaks out there.
The Coast Guard says you should use an anchor rope that is 3 times the depth. Mine is about 25 feet since I fish shallow all the time. Yes to the float. In the video, you can see the blue thing. That is a pool noodle I use for the float. I describe how to make it in this video - ua-cam.com/video/bRXOt4jXCZg/v-deo.html
Funny about the used yaks.... seems like folks use them until they crack apart or... if put on Craigslist, go quickly. I was lucky to get mine used. I just happened to be at the kayak store when they got it in. If your kayak store also sells used kayaks, ask them to call you when they get a model in. You can do quick research and then call them back to confirm you are interested enough to come in to look at it.
Be sure you buy a yak with a good seat! Sit in it and paddle it before you commit.
Very nice one thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the tip. Question, if you are fishing shallow, how to you set up your anchor line? Do you let all 25 ft out? What method do you use to shorten that up because you still want the quick release - correct? Thanks in advance.
The quick release works regardless of the amount of line. The USCG recommendation is to use 5 to 7 feet of anchor rope for every foot of depth. That allows the anchor to bite properly and hold the boat.
Just to add if you are going to use this tip placing a float on your anchor line will make retrieving it very easy
Yes, I should have made a bigger point on that in the video at around 1:43 when I had my float in my hand. Thanks for surfacing the point!
Thanks
Good tips but if it's a dangerous situation I'd just grab my knife and cut the line lol
You bet!
Great information. Even better, install a quick release and attach it to your seat leg so it's in reach. The quick release gives you an immediate access and release without having to drill holes and install a cleat. With your system you have to wrap it around the cleat, tie a slip knot, pull on the knot and hope the knot releases without slowing your reaction time and release down. Make it easier with a quick release clip. Just a thought for those of you looking for an easier way. Be well y'all.
Great idea! Thanks
👍 nice tip, thanks
Any time!
Thank you so much for making this point. VERY FEW people have made videos of this important step. Being able to release your anchor could be the difference in catching or loosing the "BIG ONE", and it could also save your life!
Yep. I learned this the hard way on the New River in VA. My canoe almost dumped before I could cut the line.
Brilliant idea. I'll try that except that I'm going an extra step. I'm going to add a oval slip float to mine to make for easier location/recovery of anchor. Thanks.
Yes, that is important. I did a separate video on that
It only took a hundred or so quick release kayak anchor and float videos to find this one. not just a great video but best on the subject, just subscribed looking forward to watching more of your video's. Thanks
Thank you very much. I appreciate it!
Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
New to kayaking and this is great info. TY. I think I will add a small float at the end of the anchor line so it can be relocated and retrieved when necessary. Thanks.
Nick in Redfield Arkansas.
Yes, you can see I have one attached in the video. This video discusses anchors - ua-cam.com/video/D-oMf_XTXpw/v-deo.html
This is awesome tip
Glad you liked it
This is the perfect tip for my kayak and style of fishing. I did consider a quick release clip, but this will work just as well. Thanks.
Sounds great!
Thanks for posting this and highlighting an important use of the trolley. Many of the anchor trolley systems I see in use make it difficult to detach in an emergency situation, as the anchor is clipped to a ring and moved to the front or back putting the anchor line out of reach. As a result, you are forced to move the trolley ring back to the cockpit in order to unhook. This can be difficult when under tension or in a very fast manner. I’ve never used an anchor trolley yet, but I intend to install and use one in this manner for fishing small rivers. Thanks.
Exactly! Mine was installed by the kayak shop and I wish they had explained this.
Great and important video. This is exactly what I've done since day one. Methods besides a slip knot can lead to the rope not being able to be released due to tension on the rope (this way is also extremely quick). I also use the zip tie reverse method (can't remember the name) for tying the anchor to the rope so I can unstick it. Safety first! Thanks for posting.
Glad you do this - thanks for the slip knot comment.
bang on
Like the idea when you showed it first a bit ago. So glad they have made an adapter. It’s nice when a company finds a product that helps those with disadvantages.
Totally agree!
Thank you!!!
Welcome!
Thank you!!!
Welcome!
I'm not sure if he did it or not but it's a good idea to attach a small floaty to the line so you can see where your anchor is after you detach. Just make sure the floaty is tied on past the trolley
Yes, You can see I did that a bit farther into the video. I also have a video specifically on doing the float. Thanks for pointing that out to folks who do not watch the entire video. ua-cam.com/video/bRXOt4jXCZg/v-deo.html
Great video!
I am new and curious. I seem to see most people mounting their anchor trolley system to the left side of the kayak (as you're sitting in the seat). Is that fairly standard side? I am right handed.
Thanks! Gary
I do not believe there is a standard. My kayak came with it already installed. My fishing buddy did his DIY system on the right side.
Thanks. You are a wealth of information! I gave it some thought and decided to mount the trolley on the right side. On my car top carrier I have it on left side of vehicle. Therefore my kayak is in that rack on its left side. Can't put an anchor trolley on that side then. Haveta put some forethought into it. In the Army they taught us the Rule of 5 P's. "Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance." Thanks!
5Ps! I remember that from my time in the Army as well!
Anchor can get you in a lot of trouble for sure.
Thanks for the tip, just started using the anchor trolly and yes I was wondering what I could do if it was all the way forward or aft to unclip,now I know,thank you
I figured this out after almost tipping over. Glad to help!
Do you have a video on how you made the pvc rod holder in the back? Really neat idea to store them horizontally.
Sure - ua-cam.com/video/NrctrAG04JI/v-deo.html
Simple and great tip, thank you....
Great tip I might actually get a trolley now that I can see it work safely. Did not want one for the reasons you laid out. Great series.
I really appreciate that! I'll work even harder!
Makes perfect sense. Thank you!