Bad Behaving Amateur Radio Operators - Remember The DX Code Of Conduct
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- I don't like to post this kind of videos, but today I just couldn't take it anymore. This is just a little part of the mess that these QSO's ended up to be. I wonder if they realize that there are also kids in this hobby. Well... if these people don't respect each other, I doubt they even care about kids at all.
73, YO6DXE
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Calling CQ without asking if the frequency is in use is a breach of etiquette. Using foul language is a breach of the law. If we want to remain largely self-policing, we should start recording and reporting these scofflaws so they stop taking their operating privileges for granted.
That is exactly what I was saying in an earlier comment reply. Usually everyone tells us "spin the dial and move on"... maybe that is the exact reason while we still have people like these ones on the bands... because all we do is "spin the dial". Should be easy to clean up the bands by reporting them as the big majority of the people I hear or have a QSO with are just wonderful and respectful people. Is a pleasure to be on the bands even if just listening if no time to make contacts. Have an amazing weekend Kelly.. 73, YO6DXE.
P.S. I still don't know who was the DXpedition station callsign but I already reported the other one.
It seems almost impossible to enforce 80 metre antics when the radio signals reach across national boarders and different communication ministries. I think that is why 80 meters has been abandoned by the various communication ministries. A license is still required to be on 80 metres. However, over half the operators there are not licensed. Many are operating beyond the band privileges and limitations of their radio license. Citizen's Band used to be the radio junkyard. Today 80 metres is far worse. It is actually rather interesting to listen to it. I often laugh at the ridiculous sound effects, arguments, and drunks. But, many times, there is so much hate and animosity that I have to turn off the scanner. I sometimes toy with getting an amateur radio license. But change my mind because of the hate on some frequencies. Besides, I could probably buy a used radio and get on tonight, without a call sign. Over half the people do not use them, or do not have one, anyway.
@@indridcold8433 Well, there are always sociopaths who ignore laws and enjoy doing things like operating without a license and imposing themselves on others. There is something wrong with people who enjoy making others unhappy. But when practical (like when they are using a valid call sign), they should be held responsible for their behavior. Just like in raising children, we encourage the behaviors we allow.
Here in Romania is nice on 80m. Ok not like is something WOW, is just a band like the other bands )). So far I didn't hear anyone with no license, but I do hear a drunk guy now and then and that man always makes my day hahaha. I also hear him on 2m so he must be close by maybe I should ask him to go for a drink one day ))). I do know a few using an amp with a power way above the license limit... way above I mean 1KW when the license only allows you 100W ))). But rarely and still ok as he does it mostly to make short tests have a short test QSO and puts the power down.
Don't worry Kelly... we have a saying about these people here in Romania. "The mud pot doesn't get to the river too many times, one day it will break"... same with this guys. Its all fun and joy for them... until the day it is not fun anymore )).
50 years ago my 5th grade teacher said something that is still true today. 1 person did something stupid and the entire class got in trouble. She said, "always remember that 2% will ruin it for everyone else." Sadly amateur radio is just a microcosm of what our society has devolved to.
As a NCO in the US Army, i was told that 20% of my people would take up 80% of my time. TRUE!!!
Sometimes I'm scared about the direction our society takes these days. Thanks to "politics" and many other "entities" that slowly transformed the people in what they are today. Mostly selfish and disrespectful... with a big lack of education. Going on this side of things.. these are the people that are the easiest to "brain wash" and control... doing all you want. But let's not go into that side of things hehe.
About the 50 years ago school teacher... yep I got the same lesson in the second grade. And I still remember that today. Talking about good old times... I've been watching some documentaries about the hobby from 40-50 years ago. Ohhh how nice it used to be.. I wish sometims I was born in another times. 73 and have an amazing weekend. YO6DXE.
Ohh yes very true I agree. Reminds me of the times working on cruise ships... same story. 73, YO6DXE.
@@billloveless6869 I think that is law in physics as the situation seems to universal across the world... universe? anyone from outer space care to comment??
Bob .. with the cut the crap part I tend to believe that you also like using that language )). Not for my channel though... as I know I also have kids watching the videos and reading comments. If you watch the video carefully or go through the commets... you will realize that I did say that I don't hear this stuff very often. One reason why I recorded it is that this time it was really bad. Sorry but in the rules I have to follow, the swearing part on air is not allowed at all. I believe rules are for all not just for some. What I didn't like about what was going on is that for some reason many people forget that we also have young kids in the hobby. Is that the behavior to be on air for a kid to deal with ? I don't think so. I always spin the dial and move on... but maybe that is also the reason why we still have these people acting like this on the bands... because all we do is "spin the dial and move on". 73 and have a nice weekend.
I agree with you in every respect. In the USA far too many crazy CBers have gotten ham licenses but brought their CB manners along with them. I guess that's what direction finding is for, that and callsigns.
The language used tells exactly where they come from... and where they should go back to... amateur radio is not truckers channel... my opinion. 73, YO6DXE.
No wonder why there is no knowledge and they don't care about rules... because they have no clue about them. That thing of teaching people the right answer for the exam.. here is I think the best example of why is a bad idea. 73, YO6DXE.
This is frustrating, particularly as my 13 y.o. daughter is just getting into amateur radio. I also take a breath to recognize the many, many times people have show great courtesy and kindness to this amateur's stumblings on the air waves (including just yesterday). They far outweigh the immature ones demonstrated in this video.
I am so happy to hear that Stuart. I hope she will enjoy the hobby... and not have to deal with these kind of people too often. I keep trying to get my nephew into the hobby as well. He is only 10, but no luck so far. He did seem to like fox hunting so I have a feeling that soon I will get him into the hobby as well hahaha. About the good side of the people... indeed that is the big majority. That is why I felt so welcomed into the hobby because of the respect and care for each other. Only in sailing o got so much help and attention for people willing to help me evolve and learn.. from any other field I was involved with in the past. That is why I hope to see less and less of this behavior on air... especially because I worked with kids in the past.. and I can tell sometimes they are more mature than the grownups in this video. 73, YO6DXE.
Sorry for long rant. Agree 10,000 percent. I quit ham about 30 years ago during my college years. After I got out, bought a home and raised my family,..one day I set the station up to show my son about dad's old hobby. Within seconds - it sounded nothing like I had remembered. The "f-words" were being used, people fighting, screaming and other things. I had to quickly turn it off so my son wouldn't hear it. I remember feeling really depressed because I had been so proud of my license. I had worked so very hard for it, (five license classes - code for all and travel a great distance to take tests),. I respected those who came before me as the ham people always seemed a cut above. Things changed in the early 90's with relaxing the licensing requirements and it was always my belief that was part of it along with changes in society , (the net),. I picked the hobby back again about 10 years ago and was pleased to see a new group but again - there are still those who bring shame on the hobby. It's true. Those people never would have existed in the hobby back when I started. Social media is in large part to blame. People that act or talk that way think it's the norm in 2023. Many see nothing wrong with it. Cheers.
No worries Jim I also write long comments ar times hahaha. Ohhh I already visualize the scene you had to go through. In a way it would be a nice scene on some movie related to the hobby.. a funny scene too that would actually show the not so nice side of the hobby )). Amusing to watch but not at all to live it in real life. The fact that they relaxed a little the exams.. is not that bad. The education of the people is questionable ... in general not just the education on the hobby. I'm not talking about universities and stuff.. but about those sever years we spend at home as we say here in Romania. These days we suffer a lot on that part and we see the results everywhere. I believe some of this people confuse the amateur radio hobby with Facebook or Tik Tok. Maybe there is a good reason I don't use any of them. I am still optimistic and believe that slowly slowly they will fade away and stay away from the radio. At some point they will get bored as clearly there is no passion for the radio... 73, YO6DXE.
@@boblatkey7160 Guess you didn't read through my post to the end and missed the context and content. No. I didn't throw it away or I wouldn't be here. I've been at it on/off since the 60's. You're way too anxious to attack nothing but an opinion. This is exactly what he's talking about. No one lost anything. There is no fight. Simply relaying a series of events. The need to confront others these days is off the charts. Sad.
Honestly, I'd expect nothing less from anyone still watching Star Wars after the franchise was destroyed.
Ohh we share the same thoughts hahaha. Even though I used to work for Disney in the past... I can't agree with you more on this ))). 73, YO6DXE.
Yes, shameful and their licences should be revoked!
I so much agree on that. Not just the special event guy.. but also the one with the DXpedition and the colorful language. Disgusting... 73, YO6DXE.
Well said my friend. And like many other people here said. There’s always some bad eggs in the basket.
Or as we say in Romania... the bad tree in the forest )) . 73 my friend.
Makes me mad, i spin the wheel or do something else. It frustates the hell out of me that on most weekends 20m 14.230Mhz which is listed as the SSTV CoA just gets constantly talked over, no one does 'is this frequency in use' they just see a gap and start go calling CQ Contest...
I know exactly what you mean. I didn't do SSTV yet but I stay on RX and enjoy the images. This weekend there were a lot of SSTV QSOs in progress and one ON came on... he did asked if the frequency is in use... but you could clearly gear SSTV signals. He just started calling CQ on top of that. No fairplay... the good part is that the big majority of amateur radio operators are decent and go by the rules. 73, YO6DXE.
Gutter language belongs in the past not on the radio, Whoever does this sort of thing needs their shack confiscated.
Amen for this David. I so agree with you on this. No need for this people on air. They just make the hobby look bad... and our ears suffer. 73, YO6DXE.
Thankfully it’s very limited and you can always turn the dial and find some open space or a courteous QSO elsewhere!
I rarely hear this kind of things... and I am haply about that. But from all times.. this was the worst. Usually I just don't interfere... I just move on. Is the best. 73
Like every hobby there's a few bad eggs that don't follow the rules or have any concept of respect. This sort of behavior is usually from an individual that thinks they deserve a license rather than feel privileged too have it.
Wise words Keith. Indeed that is how it feel. Or also the feeling that having the license gives you the right to take over a frequency even if in use... "just because you can" ))). Bad eggs indeed... I stay away from these ones. 73 and have a nice weekend.
We have idiots cut from the same block over here on 7200.0 at times. When I entered the hobby in 1974, this would not have been tolerated.
I've heard and I've been told that in the past this kind of behavior was not accepted. For sure it was not here in Romania before 89'. 73, YO6DXE.
Maybe he didnt get that Star Wars Easter egg he really wanted 😮
Happy Easter Chip.
Hahaha. Now I feel like not watching Star Wars anymore thanks to this 😅🤯. Thank you Nigel. Late Happy Birthday to you !!! Wishing you a long happy life, health and many QSO's in the log. 73
New operator here...6 months. In my experience, the riff raff tend to congregate daily on particular frequencies/bands and particular times. Generally, it's easy to steer clear of them. I have hundreds of QSOs behind me now and only one bad experience to mention...in the very beginning I responded to someone when I should not have. I listened to the rant for about 5 seconds and wonder how many more seconds transpired before the guy who was losing his mind realized he was transmitting into dead air!
I'm not so diferent either. I'll have an year in July I think. So far I didn't had any bad experience... not in a QSO. Listening yes I hear strange stuff all the time. But usually is just little things and people calm down quick. This was a bit too much that is why I filmed the thing. Anyway... I would do the same... let them talk... to the hand )) I would sure not answer to these people. 73 my friend and whish you many QSO's in the log.
One of the reasons I love CW. No real problems with that sort of behaviour. Everyone I have communicated with has been friendly and courteous. Not the easiest mode to send profanities when you think about it.
I was about to say something else about why you don't hear this stuff on CW, but then I will be very rude and I don't want to ))).
80 meters is a disaster also. I hear things that are never heard on CB, FRS, GMRS, and even pirate 11 meter band. This is why I do get my amateur raído license.
I was also hoping that moving from CB or PMR will help not hear this kind of stuff anymore. Turns out I was wrong. Hopefully things will change... I'm optimistic 😁. 73, YO6DXE.
@@dxexplorer I have noticed the most friendly, enjoyable, and well mannered operators are the GMRS users. Canada now has interlinked repeaters that connect one coast to the other. This is a recent development. It used to be that repeaters could not be interlinked, nor connected to the World Wide Web. With the change of the rules, the operators can have a lot of power in their hand with just a cheap walkie talkie. I wonder if CRCT knows something the citizens do not know. They are encouraging this elaborate radio connection network. What is parliament expecting?
Haha when things like this happen, I also wonder what is the reason behind ))) I think I already have an idea but that is for other topics on politics ))). But is nice though. Is like Echolink that we have on VHF and is really nice. Here in Romania GMRS is not authorized. But I am happy to hear that people are nice. That is how we should all be ))).
You are correct, it’s a sad but it seem like we are losing our good manners.73. KV5P
Not everyone... some people do. I am haply that the big majority do have manners still. 73 Mike.. have a great weekend, YO6DXE.
He didn't even check like you said.
I know. I think he picked the frequency on purpose as he knew there is a DXpedition on 14.255MHz at that time and he just wanted to get QSO's faster. But of course... the OM with the DXpedition turned the situation even worst with his language. Both to blame here. 73 Marvin.
@@dxexplorer very true
you added a subscriber today. We are supposed to be good stewards for the hobby not children, and you handled what you heard quite appropriately. I have heard the same on certain bands and it is disappointing to say the least.
I am happy I don't hear this kind of stuff too often. Actually never this bad as in the video. Usually is little things and people calm down quick. Or someone doesn't calm down and is whistling on top of QSO's etc. But indeed we should not do things like this on the bands. I guess I will repeat this many times, but let's not forget we also have a big number of kids in the hobby. I would not want them to get on air and have to listen to guys like this.. so I rather help them not have a license anymore and keep the bands clean for a change. 73 and have a quiet weekend, YO6DXE.
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I will paraphrase an old saying: "The fighting is so nasty because the stakes are so low."
You know what I was seeing in my mind listening to that ? Two men fighting like two little girls in school ))). Screaming, pulling their hair and all that. That is exactly how they acted in this situation. 73, YO6DXE.
2 wrongs do not make a right. Very sad behavior all round but the foul language is unforgivable.
This was grandpa's saying. Wise words... sad indeed. If it was about me I would laugh hearing them fight like this. What gets me mad is that I know that we also have a lot of kiss on the hobby. Some very young... and the language they used clearly is not for the kids. Such a shame they still have a license. That is why things like this happen. One did it and nothing happened to him... the second one thinks "ohhh so I can".. and so on. Feels like no one is regulating anything. Except the decent people... the big majority in the hobby.. that does go by the rules... made with a purpose not in vain. 73, YO6DXE.
Sounds like there is enough blame all around. Both were violating "good practices" and there is NO excuse for that type of behavior and language.
That is exactly what I think as well. No excuse for any of them. 73, YO6DXE.
Yep, lots of LIDS out there. I hear a lot of guys loading up on top of a QRP station and blowing them out making everybody miserable. There are a certain a group of hams out there who routinely load up on top of people, and a group who think because they get on the same frequency every day at the same time the frequency belongs to them. Add in a group old timers on 80 meters who are apparently in the southern USA and never use cal signs are likely boot leggers. I like the CW guys on 40M who all decide to operate with in a few HZ of each other even though they are contesting or "rock" bound with a crystal. No wonder the world is such a screwed up mess with endless war. I agree, let's keep ham radio a "civil" endeavor. for the most part it is.
Ohhh yes... but what makes me happy is that sometimes a guy with a good antenna and lots of powers starts doing QSO's... mostly calling for QRP stations and leaving the big guys at the end. That is what I call respect. Of course some of them don't respect that and continue calling during the QSO on top of the QRP station. Its ok... slowly things will change and I have a feeling we will have less and less of these kind of people on air. 73
There are a few bad apples out there. I'm sure we all have stories of them to tell. And for me, some I feel ashamed of for the hobby, and would be embarrassed to repeat. But, more importantly, remember that they are the exception, even if they are loudmouths, and don't let them get you down. 73, good sir.
Ohh yes very true. Defenetly not getting me down... angry yes hahaha. The only reason I filmed this particular one is just because it was the worst I've heard from them all. As grandpa used to say... "where there's no brain, you can't complain". I guess he was right so now I look at this video and laugh ))). 73, YO6DXE.
Decades of defunding the FCC equals the wild west now. Years ago CB was above 29Mhz. No more.
It is a bit of Wild West now and then. Not sure how CB used to be. When I got into CB a few years back.. it was still as it is today. I did had fun having long talks and giving lectures over the radio on beekeeping assisting some of my friends haha. Cell phones bills back then were too much for the time I spent talking on the radio. It was pretty "clean" most of the time, except the truckers that usually hang out on ch22... but now and then they would wonder around on other channels for private conversations between them. But the language they used... ohh man I always had to make sure there are no kids around haha. In terms of ham radio... I'm still new into the hobby. I only got my license last year. So far is fun and to be honest I don't hear this kind of stuff too often. For that reason I also don't make videos like this one. I may hear little "fights" that end really quick usually and never go to extremes as this one. It just happened that I was filming another video and heard them using the bad language, a lot worst than I was expecting... so I started recording. I was hoping to do a QSO with the expedition. But after hearing the way they talk.. I changed my mind instantly haha. In most cases so far... people seem very friendly and decent. Even if there is one that acts "stupid", there is always a few more calming him down really quick and they comply. But going through the comments on this video, I do realize that in some parts or some bands specifically... it is indeed a Wild West. Especially on local comms on 2m or 70cm. I do hear that kind of stuff on local comms here in Romania as well... over the repeaters. What I hate the most is the drunk ones over the radio. They are fun as they make you laugh a lot... but also making you not feel like turning on the radio anymore 😅. 73, YO6DXE.
I was told by hams here in the usa telling me to just turn the vfo and what not. I told them that just sweaping things under the rugs and ham here just let things go and let people act like 2 year olds
I remember when I was living on my sailboat in Miami... I was talking to a local ham that I wanted to get my license and he wanted to help me on that. Too bad I forgot his callsign... it was a few years back. But I remember I told him that I want ham radio because I had enough of the bad language on CB. I was surprised to hear that is not just CB when he told me about these kind of things happening on the ham bands. Well... I do believe him these days. Indeed acting like 2 year old kids. Luckily we can't blame a 2 years old kid as they don't know much. But these people... pffff. Such a shame. 73 Andrew, YO6DXE.
alot of things like this. i call CQ on a peaceful freq and i have people come to me and tune on top of me. then they sit right next to my frequency and call CQ themselves. it is shameful and people like this should not have radios.
I hear that too sometimes. Even if is not nice.. is a lot better than acting like these guys ))). But I know what you mean. Usually when I work on the computer, I just listen on the bands. What you say here happens pretty often unfortunately. I think at the end it all comes to education ( not talking about university, education in general ).
@@dxexplorer thank you for your time making videos!
Thank you for taking the time to watch them. That is what keeps me going. 🙏🙏
I am like you and always try to take a positive approach to ham radio and promote the hobby in positive terms. Thankfully, the vast majority of hams are good operators. To be fair to the SE, he may not have been able to hear some of the stations asking him to QSY (conditions or local QRM) but when multiple stations are continually telling him to QSY.....🤔.
Same as a few other commentators, I notice some stations (even sometimes DX-peditions or rare DX working split) seem to have little regard for band plans. Less popular modes and QRP relies on having "protected" frequencies and it is a shame that some operators have no idea of band plans or just ignore them. I think the answer is to promote good behaviour. For example, on popular UA-cam channels like yours 🙂.
Very true Steve. The big majority are really nice decent people. I think I have an idea on how to promote the good behavior on air in some future videos. I'm not popular though hahaha... but who know.. one day ))). Being positive and respectful is good not just in ham radio... but also in the everyday life.
On the station in the video... I also thought he may not hear them at first.. until he started replying with "QSY tomorrow not today haha".. then I knew exactly what's going on and I turned on the camera at the perfect time as it was clear what is about to happen. Is ok... the Amateur Radio Union in Spain are preparing a "surprise" for him as it seems he does this often and they have a lot of complains on him. Have an amazing weekend and hope to get you in the log sometime. 73, YO6DXE.
I'm using CW (Morse) and Data modes more these days. Just easier in every way.
I didn't like digital modes at all... CW.. I think I must wait a little until I get to do a QSO. But I have to say that I started to like digital as well 😁. 73
And then we are wondering why amateur radio operators switch to digital modes instead of voice. I am really worried about their behaviour. I hear such behaviours quite often. I don't know, i hope someday they will understand their mistake. 73 DE SV2TCB
I hope someone will take their license away before they realize they were wrong. I know Nikos... better we learn CW. Much more clean.. 600Hz sounds nice too )). 73 my friend, YO6DXE. Did you got your stuff sorted out ? Let me know when you get back on HF maybe we can try a QSO.
@@dxexplorer let's say i kind of fixed it. My coax cable has to be changed but i can still make qso. Tell me when you have some time and we will make a qso.
@@sv2tcb Sounds great then. I also need to replace mine but it still works for now. Tomorrow I have to finish a filter for the power supply as I took it apart to put it in an enclosure. Maybe in the afternoon id the propagation is good we can try.
@@dxexplorer i would be at the sack till 15:00 and then i will leave and come back at 19:50 till midnight. Otherwise we can arrange it for Saturday if you can.
@@sv2tcb Evening is perfect for me too Nikos. If propagation doesn't help we try again on Saturday too. 73 my friend.
You are absolutely right.
Hopefully we see less and less of this. 73 Tomek.. YO6DXE.
I’m so disgusted hearing stuff like that. Very annoying.
That makes two of us. I know... I hope I don't have to deal with this too soon anymore. 73, YO6DXE.
Well said
🙏🙏 have a nice relaxing weekend. 73, YO6DXE.
You are correct my friend.
I wish I was not ). 73, YO6DXE.
Unfortunately like everything else Amateur Radio has Dumbed down for the masses, which is why I enjoy CW, where grown up Radio Amateurs Operate..
No wonder I try my best to learn Morse code faster ))). Indeed Paul... I hear this stuff more and more lately. So sad... if no one does anything on this people, is better we do CB.. is no difference.
@@dxexplorer Best way to get your speed up is to go live on the air, with another amateur who'll help you and there are many who will trust me, once you got it ,you'll enjoy it all the more.
@@paul-c7541 Ohhh trust me I can't wait for that day. I am still learning the code so it will take me a while. But I am slowly getting there and as soon as I know I can do a QSO I will be on CW. Slow fast I don't care I just want to do it )). I'm so excited actually about CW.. more than Christmas presents )).
That's why people use CW and digital modes ;)
Ohh yes... also why I'm learning the code 😅😅 73, YO6DXE.
Bad behavior is everywhere. I’ve experienced it many times. Recorded videos of them on my channel. Will have a new one in a few weeks. 73!
I'll come over and have a look a bit layer. Ohhh for me this was just a one time video. I don't like making this kind of videos. I do record them... but instead of posting them on UA-cam ... I just send them to those responsible about the licenses of those involved 😁. 73, YO6DXE.
Very true... there will always be bad parts in everything... not just in the radio hobby. I'm sure I will encounter many more from now. The reason I don't like sharing that is just that I don't like the situations. I prefer to concentrate on learning more and enjoying the good parts. After dinner I come for a visit on the channel to see both the good and the bad )). 73
Why do allot of these people come from South Europe? I think most get their licence from the back of a cereal box.
We have LIDS here to in EI, telling improper jokes, and we have young operators who could be listening.
Take their licence from them.
I will be reporting them to Comreg, in Ireland.
Well you did made me laugh with the license from the back of the cereals box 😅😅😅. This was the best thing I've heard today hahaha. Ohh I know what you mean. I don't know what to say anymore. Is nice people on the bands all the time... but then sometimes we get the bad ones too. The thing about kids listening and also kids in the hobby is exactly the reason why I decided to record this video and post it. I really don't like posting stuff like this but with that language I just couldn't pretend I don't care anymore. I already reported the special call station and there will be consequences for that behavior pretty soon I was told. Thanks again for the joke as I will go sleep with a smile on my face this evening haha. 73 and I hope you have a magical weekend, YO6DXE.
We are better than this as operator's. That was a disgrace . Coming from a guy who hates contests I think they should have a portion of the band , a small portion to play field day and act like children. Hope to catch you on the air on day 73”
Ohh it was just a DXpedition Steve... no contest. And yes I agree... the big majority are way better than this. Hehe... the portion of the band for "acting like kids" made me laugh hahaha. Good idea indeed. Hope to catch you on air as well. 73 Steve and have an amazing rest of the week.
You as well sir , 73” from KE2AZK 🙏
Thank you as well 🙏. 73
A faux pas, is simply that, not an insult. Profanity, is disrespectful to everyone on the air, and damages the HAM community's public image. And discourages new members joining.
Forgetting to ask if the frequency is in use, is simply polite etiquette, not a requirement. The spectrum is for us to share, and enjoy with every participant. It's not property.
@twohandsandaradio is right, about amateur radio being a microcosm, of what our society has devolved to. There appears to be a general decay in social cohesion, and increasing levels of intolerance and hostility.
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Very much agree about the society.. sadly all that seem to also reflect in the hobby. About the issue in the video... Indeed asking if the frequency is clear is not a written rule. But saying good morning to the neighbor is also not written. We do say good morning out of respect. Same thing in the hobby. Asking if the frequency is clear was one thing that would prevent this from happening. Or not... as there was clearly a lot of disrespect from the special event station as well since everyone were telling him to QSY as there were QSO's in progress... and his answer "QSY tomorrow not today" tells a lot about the respect he has for the community. Honestly the best punishment for these kind of people is to simply not answer at all to his calls... I have a feeling that soon they would figure out why they don't get any answers back and things may change in time. We should see about that ))). 73, YO6DXE.
Another example of poor operating practice. whatever happened to the gentlemen operators of old. Sometimes i think they make it too easy for some people to licence. Like anything it only takes a couple of clowns and suddenly we have a circus. Hope you are well Chip.
All good here... working hard on getting my new antenna set up and adjusted. But is bed time now... and after earlier today I don't feel like opening the radio again this evening )). Indeed about the licensing process. I hope the amateur radio bands will not become the truckers CB channel... as today that is exactly how it sounded to me. 73 and have a great weekend... with no clowns )).
I stopped being on ham radio because of this for 25 years. I hope it is not starting to be wide spread again.
I hope not also. But if it happens no worries... with the today's internet is so easy for them to end up with no license so quick. 73, YO6DXE.
You can express disapproval without using profanity.
It makes you look bad even if you are in the right.
I did not understand the profanity thing 😐 you talk about the one swearing ?
That's why I prefer VHF. Can't wait for Six to open again!
On a different subject, how do you like your TruSDX? I also have a green one with the same new knob! But I haven't configured the mic yet. Waiting for the weather to get good enough for POTA! Did you hear about the new spectrum display?
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I need to get a VHF TRX as well... the tru(SDX) is all I have now... well... besides a Baofeng )). The tru(SDX) is really nice. I love it... and it slowly fills up my logbook with QSO's and that is great. I was never expecting to get so far with so little power. The mike came with the TRX and I am happy as the internal one doesn't seem to sound as good. Ohhh yes yes I installed the new firmware as soon as Manuel posted the video on it. The video didn't even finished and I already had the new one installed hahaha. I don't use the graph so much... but it has a bit more speed on CAT control... seems to be a little more quiet on RX... and I know that the code is a bit cleaner. Plus the menu that you can continue scrolling through the menus continously is nice.
Sad hams think they own an do anything just because they are higher license
Indeed.. but don't worry there is a cure for them )) ... slowly slowly one by one. 73, YO6DXE.
That's an interesting radio that you have.
tru(SDX)... 5W QRP transceiver. SSB and CW for five bands. 73, YO6DXE.
14.313 Mhz
Just Look at You Radio Scope shows what Frequencies are Busy,
Well... I don't have one hehe... but I would if I had a bigger TRX with a proper scope. I do like spinning that tune buton all the way and listen to what is going on then pick what interests me. I usually skipp the frequency when is some mess as the one in the video. 73 Manuel.
So many beeps 😮
Ohhhh there would be a lot more but I cut the video short 🙈🙈 it was too much I would end up with bad CW instead of SSB having so many beeps 😅.
AGREED
Me too ... 73, YO6DXE. Happy weekend.
It's a reason I stay away from 20m band.
So then I guess it happens more often that I know )). In the past year I think is just the third time I hear something like this. Only that this time was pretty bad, that is why I filmed it. 73 and have a nice weekend, YO6DXE.
@@dxexplorer You might remember when IT9RYH/Nino was around at 14.195. Boy what a mess! 73 and a great weekend!
I might remember but not sure. Is this the one that was trying to contact a US station and was keep transmitting on top of every QSO ? I may be wrong but the callsign rings a bell. Thank you... an amazing weekend to you as well. 73, YO6DXE.
@@dxexplorer Nino had a beautiful modulation, sending from Sicilia. He vas known to "occupy" 14.195MHz. This is a well known DX frequenzy but Nino didn't care. That attracted lots of QRM/jamming. He also had long qso's with him self som believed he playd recorder transmits. I worked him once, split 20m/17m 🙂
@@LA6UOA Ahhhh then is another guy. No I don't remember this one. Maybe I've heard something as I do find the callsign very familiar )). If the modulation sounded a lot like AM broadcast then maybe that's why.
On 11 metres there are a number of childish operators. One who has been active on 27.555 takes up to 5 minutes to make his CQ CQ dx deliberately jamming up the frequency.
I don't know how SSB is not on 11m. I used to be active a lot doing DX and it was fun. Up to a point then I decided to step away. 73 Richard.
I have never heard profanity on HF since I became a foundation ham three years ago.
It was a lot more... I just cut it short as I had enough of it. It was too much. If I recorded the entire thing.. with so many beeps to cover the swearings.. I would end up with some bad CW I think )). Is sad but I hope this will change. 73, YO6DXE.
I’ve even heard guys on their own little group being proud of being overtly racist and threatening elected members of Congress. And besides that, extremely rude operating from many others. Just openly bullying the frequency to get a QSO.
What a shame. Racism I didn't hear until now and I hope I won't from now on.
Luckily it’s hardly a common occurrence
Ohh yes... I don't hear this every day. Or well... at least not as bad as this one ). 73, YO6DXE.
The lack of respect shown in the recording is sad. But it has nothing to do with whether the F bomb is dropped or not. People need to stop getting offended by "cuss" words.
Well Bryan.. I must disagree... but at least here in Romania... and I have a feeling that all over the world, in the rules we should follow on air is specified exactly that we should not use such language. What I do agree with... is that people should stop getting offended and light up so fast as that is exactly what will end up as the situation in the video )). Burning hot )). 73 and have a nice weekend Bryan.
@@dxexplorer the rules is the USA are the same ones that govern broadcast TV. So if it is acceptable there then I think it would be acceptable on amateur radio. My argument is more of a philosophical one that we shouldn’t be teaching that certain words are bad. But I know the rules on the air and I follow them here in the USA. Doesn’t mean I like it lol
I know what you mean haha. I just think is bad when you see the face of a 10 yo kid in front of the radio having to hear this on air. Maybe that is why the rules are made )). Trust me I also feel like saying a bad word now and then... especially when filming videos and burning my fingers with the soldering iron hahaha... then I remember... kids are watching keep your mouth shut 😅😅😅. Bed time here is nearly 1AM and I'm dead tired. 73
Big Hug Ciprian
73 my friend. Have a nice weekend.
Calling "Is the frequency in use" several times is a good practice, sometimes others do not hear the call because of conditions. The "adult" language is unacceptable, there is plenty of spectrum, someone should have moved, keep egos out of operations. There used to be an international battle between a Canadian ham and a group of US hams on 14MHz phone band, disgusting behavior and language, it would have stopped if the Canadian ham had just stayed off 20m for a few weeks, but I think sometimes people go back to the radio just for the satisfaction of antagonizing others to make themselves feel better. Hams are people and people are not perfect, just try not to participate in this sort of thing. Turn off the rig, pick up a book or magazine and a beverage, just do something else, let the idiots play their game.
I have the feeling that the one in the video... the swearing one with the DXpedition is actually a Canadian as well. I've been going through some DX spots and at that time it was a Canadian callsign on the frequency. But I may be wrong so I search a bit more about this DXpedition.
I agree 👍
Should we move to CB ? Is the same anyway 😅. Why bother for a license to have the same ? 😁
Just foward the audio to the FCC..let them sort it out..
I already did to the comms authority in Spain and they are on this already. Is the best way to deal with these people.
This what happens when it becomes to easy to get licensed. No pride in accomplishment, pay your fee and get on the air. The whole hobby is turning into citizen band radio.
Very true indeed. Easier to get the license may not be a bad thing. I have the feeling that it does bring a lot of good people into the hobby. Sadly the bad ones come as well... and is true.. sometimes when things like this happens... it sound exactly like 11m band. I just don't understand why NO ONE does anything.
Luke 6:41. 73.
You don’t get this kind of behavior near as much, if at all with CW. Just sayin
I just posted a comment earlier on this. I am rude to say this but to do CW you must use your brain a lot... something that these guys don't seem to use much.
Haha 😅
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73, YO6DXE.
73, YO6DXE.
I was listening to this when it happened.
I was thinking to try get a QSO with the DXpedition... but after the language he used... I changed my mind.
@@dxexplorer same here , I have up.
Hi, your video matters, making other people aware of what sometimes goes on, on the amateur bands. There are so many " radio amateurs " that do not follow the rules (written or un-written) that they once learned to get their license.
Reacting on someone's CQ, giving only part of their full call sign.
Tuning their TRX or linears, on top of the frequency that is in use.
Shouting their call-signs to the calling station, when that station is still in a QSO with another one.
Irritatingly giving their call-signs, like 3, 4 ,5 times, without listening in between.
Taking over a frequency from a station that they just came back to, whilst the other station was calling CQ's.
And one of my " favorite " annoyances: saying " THE NAME HERE IS... " instead of just saying " My name is...."
or " I am called ..."
There is a Code of Conduct for radio amateurs. I just wish more of the HAM's would respectfully work other stations, according to it.
73 de PC7H
I may be mean saying this... but talking about those you mentioned... it makes me think if they ever learned anything to get the license. Maybe just the correct answer for a specific question and that's it. Got the license and now they run wild on air doing whatever they feel like doing no matter the rules. That is what I think from the behavior they show. But again... I am haply and pleased that the big majority are decent people going by the book. Clearly they love and respect the hobby.. also respecting the people they talk to. 73, YO6DXE.
Never hear swearing like this on CW…😎. I dare say 11m has less gratuitous language. Little wonder FT8 is growing in popularity as it eliminates direct human contact! I spin the VFO dial when that stuff kicks off. I believe the vast majority of hams are above this behaviour. 73 de VK2AOE.
Yes as I was saying in the video or the comments... the big majority of hams are fantastic. You don't hear them talk like this. Indeed CW is clean haha.. the reason why I try rushing my code learning ))). FT8.. remember when I was saying I don't like digital equipment and prefer analog ? I still do... but I also started to like FT8... especially when I have guests around and I die to make a few QSO's.. so... FT8 it is. They have no clue what I do on my laptop while I talk to them 😅😅😅🙈. 73 and have a fun weekend, YO6DXE. I go sleep as my eyes are falling in my mouth soon 😅.
@@dxexplorer The QRP Labs QDX transceiver kit is a fun build for FT8 and digital modes, you would like it. Hope to hear you one day on the bands…. When the ionosphere gods are kind :) 73
I also hope to hear you... so I can put you in my log hehe. Ehhh is ok, one day it will happen. All we need is patience. 73
Well said Ciprian, too many people just don't have any respect for each other any more 😢 It shouldn't have to go that far, and you're right - we have kids in the hobby - let's keep it clean and fun
73 de KE0SBX
I was just speaking with another amateur radio friend and he told me that the same happens when he is helping kids to do QSO's as they are about to get their license.. and this kind of behavior from adults happens even to kids as well not just DXpeditions. Very embarrassing. I really hope this will change. 73 Owen. Have a nice weekend... and less of these people ON AIR ))
Well said
73, YO6DXE. Wishing you a nice weekend.