Mass Effect - Can You SAVE THE THORIAN???
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Can you save the Thorian in Mass Effect? Today we’ll be answering this question, exploring the background lore surrounding the Thorian, and examining the long term consequences of this quest for Mass Effect 2 and 3.
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0:00 Introduction
0:58 Thorian Background Lore
3:01 Meeting the Thorian on Feros
4:03 Destroying the Thorian
4:45 The Thorian in Mass Effect 2
7:13 The Thorian in Mass Effect 3
8:13 Final Thoughts
Shepard and crew will typically destroy the Thorian at the end of the Feros mission in Mass Effect 1. But is it possible to save the Thorian instead and forge an alliance with this creature? The short answer is no - and we’ll explore the specifics in this video.
The Thorian is one of the most fascinating alien species in Mass Effect - which doesn’t receive much exploration after our initial contact with the creature in ME1. It is a unique lifeform, even by the standards of the Mass Effect universe, and it may be the oldest living organic species in the entire galaxy. It’s believed that the Thorian predates the Protheans and survived the last harvest which wiped out the Prothean people. This would make the Thorian at least 50,000 years old, and likely even older.
Commander Shepard and crew first encounter the Thorian on Feros, while the team is investigating reports of Geth attacks on the colony of Zhu’s Hope. While fighting through Geth units at the Exogeni Corporate Headquarters, Shepard meets Lizbeth Baynham, an Exogeni employee who reveals the truth about the company’s interest in the colony.
Zhu’s Hope was considered a failed project by Exogeni until the Thorian was discovered, hibernating beneath the surface of the colony. Exogeni quickly learned that this ancient plant life, dubbed Species 37, could infect other organic beings with airborne spores and condition them to do its bidding. Within a short period of time, 80% of Zhu’s Hope colonists were infected with Thorian spores, essentially becoming its thralls or slaves.
Through the spore infection, the Thorian is able to control its thralls by means of mental conditioning, using pain as a motivator. Whenever a thrall gets out of line, he is subjected to a great deal of pain until he begins to act as the Thorian wishes. A handful of colonists, such as Ian Newstead, are able to resist this means of control at great personal cost. But the vast majority fall in line.
When Shepard encounters the Thorian face to face, it speaks to us through an Asari clone. We discover how Saren made a deal with the Thorian. He provided one Benezia’s Asari commandos, Shiala, as a thrall to the Thorian in order to receive the Cipher, which is the shared experience of the Prothean people, absorbed by the Thorian over the course of thousands of years. Saren then betrayed the Thorian, ordering his Geth units to destroy the creature to prevent Shepard from gaining access to the Cipher.
Sensing that Commander Shepard was likely a threat, the Thorian coerced the Zhu’s Hope colonists into attacking the Commander. You can dispatch with the colonists by simply shooting them or using a non-lethal nerve agent to incapacitate them.
When you reach the Thorian it is in no mood to make any more deals, sending its minions to attack you instead. In order to complete the quest, you must destroy the Thorian nodes. Otherwise the doors that lead to the top of the tower will remain closed. In other words, you cannot save the Thorian; you must kill it in order to complete the Feros mission.
When the last node is destroyed, the Thorian plummets to its death, freeing the Asari thrall Shiala. Shiala will answer our questions about Saren and the Thorian before sharing the Cipher with Commander Shepard. At this point, we have the option to spare Shiala and allow her to remain on the colony or execute her because of her alliance with Saren. This choice has implications for a side quest on Illium in Mass Effect 2. - Ігри
Suspicious as hell that every single time you interact with Shiala, over the course of years, she always drops in "oh yeah, Thorian's dead, definitely, don't worry about that". And the ongoing spore stuff and "health issues".
I was thinking the same.
Yeah really, krzt3. I honestly have been strongly suspecting the Thorian is alive through asexual reproduction. Only for the time being it is incubating and quite possibly will not be ready to do anything it used to for decades or centuries.
This would make a good storyline for a tabletop rpg
I doubt the fall would've kill a creature of that size.
@My irons are rusted would a plant "die" from a fall? I feel like the answer is no but I've never tried dropping a cactus out of an airplane.
Oh, so we can't forge a useful alliance with the Thorian because of mind control issues, but we're perfectly fine chilling with the Leviathan?
or the indoctrinated Rachni Queen clone.
@@anthonyclark9591 You can't form a usefull alliance with the rachni queen clone, she will betray you.
@@Mis7erSeven no she doesn't, she gets captured between ME1 and ME3 and after you save her in ME3 Grunt mission you get Rachni War Assets update on the Crucible (you don't if you killed her in ME1 or didn't do the mission in ME3)
@@Valks-22 You didn't paid attention. I talked only about the rachni queen CLONE that appears in ME3 if you killed the real rachni queen in ME1. This one is reaper made and if you try to make an alliance with her you will not get war asset points but lose some points because she is gonna betray you.
@@Mis7erSeven That's pretty cool. Mass Effect 3 was a masterpiece of making your choices feel like they mattered up until the last 20 minutes or so
That, "I'll blast your virtual ass into actual dust" line is my favorite of the series.
Big stupid jellyfish after all these years never gets old with every conversation
Both lines are incredible
I always hoped Shiala would become a squad mate in future ME games, having a green asari commando squad mate would've been great haha.
Right especially after seeing her interesting green skin in ME2
I doubt that Shepard's on ship lover wants a constant green flirting asari around Shepard
maybe on mass effect 4
@@bizarro688 You mean my grand grandchildren will get to experience this? Nice.
I always hoped to get a batarian as a squadmate since most are not that bad at all
Since the Thorian could not only clone Shiala but also replicate her armor and guns, wouldn't that make it a living 3D printer? Imagine the posibilities if you could recruit it for your war against the Reapers! Or the danger if the Reapers indoctrinated it...
Yeah, I always found that aspect funny, but I'm pretty sure it was done for convenience purposes. Could you imagine having to fight a naked Shiala clone over and over?
@@GTAVictor9128 I know they can't have a naked asari going around in the game, but they could have gave her a creeper-like body with an asari face or something and maybe with extra powerful biotics instead of a shotgun. That would have been interesting.
@@ralkai I remember an ME fanfic, which explored this topic a bit. Clone Shialas, on a closer look, had the armor (which was living too) fused to their bodies and their guns (as you can guess, also biological and, basically, biotic) had troubles with heat dissipation - workable if firing semi-auto, but full-auto would've cooked their internals.
......can.....can they indoctrinate a plant?
@@GTAVictor9128 infinite naked women you say?
Damn it, Shepard. You can't just ask people why they're green.
well it's not good to be green
@@aaron75fy just ask Kermit, though he might break out into song
"Why are you green?"
"Who says I'm green?"
"You are green"
Renegade shepard does, because he's definitely not woke!
Especially a lady
if I had a dollar for every time a unique alien species that might be the only existing one of its kind who enthralled an Asari commando to use as a method of communication to talk with Shepard in Mass effect 1, I'd have 2 dollars. which isn't a lot, but it's pretty odd that it happened twice
What was the other one again?
@@DerMoerpler rachni queen
Did anyone else run out of grenades when doing this mission?
Yes, I hate how long they take to detonate too. The colonists often just run away before the nerve grenades go off
@@BigDanGaming Just melee them bro
@@BigDanGaming If I remember, you press the button to relaese a grenade, and you press again to detonate. If you don't, it will detonate after quite long time.
Also there is a bag of grenade in Zu's Hope (5 grenade)
First time I shot them
@@BigDanGaming u can detonate them anytime u want. thats how i did. Still pain in the ass tho
This question normally comes up because when you attack, the damage meter has two little arrows. This IMPLIES that you must get the damage within that range on all attacks to possibly "save" it. However, the doors will not open unless you destroy them. The fact that the arrows are THERE, implies that they originally may have planned on having a save option... but later changed their minds and just never got around to changing the UI and removing the arrows. It ends up, the arrows are useless and there is no option to save.
The arrows are there because the shutter door that Shepard overloads to cut the Geth Ship claw attached to the Exogeni building has them. A similar bar is used when you are trying to get the PSI to the sweet spot.
It's a bug that doesn't happen if you load a save after that part
I believe. Also I'm fairly sure it's fixed in the Legendary Edition
Interesting theory though
Anyone else note the similarities between Thorian thralls and indoctrination? After finding out that Collectors were once Protheans in ME2 and finding Javik (the last living Prothean) in ME3, I wondered if the Thorian wasn't the last of it's race, having survived the harvest in it's own cycle.
That thing has been hit with the ugly stick more than a few times!
Come on, that Shepard looks good for the quality of the graphics xD
The thorian side quest is still one of my favorite sci-fi stories of all time.
It’s just so...cool
Really? I hated it. Great idea but Thorian Creepers (And husks) are some of the worst enemies to fight in all of gaming. I fucking hate Zombies, and they are basicly just zombies
I wish Shiala got more screen time. One of my favorite Asari.
Edit: you can detonate the grenades yourself instead of having to wait. At least you could on console.
That's good to know! Those damn grenades lol
Would have been good to see more of her could have been a squad member with a unique biotic power leftover from the thorian or even a romance option, she does show interest in shepard in me2
@@BigDanGaming yeah so Grenades on console will wait until you explode them yourself.it was the select button on the playstation.
@@224224josh and back on the XBOX
I detonated too many grenades trying to toss another out. Same button that yeets also detonates.
i loved Shiala, i wished i could have seen more of her, the part in ME2 where she shows that she loves Shepard is heartbreaking, she was also so unique being green, i thought green really suited her
I was convinced that Shiala is green in ME2 bc she’s actually one of the clones that somehow survived, possibly implying the survival of the thorian itself 🤷🏻♂️
Big Dan Gaming: "Can You SAVE THE THORIAN???"
Me: Why the hell would WANT to?
Becaue killing it is technically genocide.
@@Carabas72 Good. Your point?
@@Carabas72 So ?
It wasn't really evil. It just got burned by Saren and became mistrustful.
i would not want that "plant" alive for 1 second
There is one additional bit of lore you overlooked - close to the Normandy crash site, there is a planet called Eingana. Its long description details a record of a war fought between the Inusannon and the “Tho’i’han” which spread so much dust form eezo from drivecore detonations that it wrecked the planet’s ecosystem turning all fauna and flora into crazed biotic killers. This may well have been Feros’ future had Shepard not intervened when he did.
Krogan is so powerful that one of them were able to blast a virtual ass into an actual dust.
The only thing I know about the Thorian is that it it’s so big that it takes a long time to load in the details and looks choppy as hell.
I wonder how it will look like in Legendary edition
Better, @@guilhermehank4938, and you will need to have ME Legendary Edition installed on a SSD to make the game remotely playable. I would laugh about this, but from what I have seen so far that looks to be the case.
@@adamgray1753 so it's going to suck? Bioware cant even handle a fucking remaster ?
No, @@guilhermehank4938. I am just saying the graphics are looking much sharper and better. This alone will knock out all but the fastest hard drives if you want the levels and everything else to quickly load in. Otherwise you may very well have the same or similar problems the original Mass Effect game had.
@@adamgray1753 HA I see
I wonder if Shiala might over time grow into a new Thorian or some kind of partial thorian hybrid, with her acting as a hub to the other colonists due to her biotic abilities.
With the long lifespan of Asari she certainly has plenty of time to change.
Norbert Sattler: Thorian#2 ME4? 😁
Exactly what I was thinking!
It bugs me that you in no way negotiate with the thorian. There were so many avenues to explore with said decision. Yes it took control over the colonists but only as a defense mechanism. Which of course results in the Turian councilor to berate you for killing it. Oh who am I kidding? He would still complain about it. You cannot win with him.
If you pay attention, you can guess what happened. It tells you it has spoken to humanoids for the first time in a long time, and that Saren wanted to know about the Protheans.
It says that then the cold ones (geth) started killing the humans the Thorian infected with his spores. He mentions a honest trade.
Basically, the Thorian needed "animals" to reproduce through its spores. Saren needed info on the protheans. Saren offered the thorian the whole human colony in exchange of the info he needed about the Protheans.
Once he got the info, he ordered the geth to kill everyone to erase his track.
Thats why the Thorian wont deal with you.
Thats why the geth are killing everyone.
Thats why youre forced to kill it.
Tl;dr: The traitorous act of Saren against the Thorian makes it not trust anything you say.
@@nolosei86 Pluss from a game stand point, allaying with it could potentially spoil alot of plot points that were revealed in later games
The Thorian is a self-serving, parasitic eldrich entity.
Its only fate is to be exterminated for the good of all sapient life, before it starts reproducing.
@@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit They only written that way so they wouldn't have to write an alternative ending to the mission. Knowing the latter games they would completely forget about and never adress it again. The Thorian holds vast knowledge of the universe. It could persuade the Council that the Reapers exist. I don't know something.
@@spartanq7781 well even if the Thorian survived I’m not so sure the council would just believe it, remember we literally saw the warning about the reapers from Eden Primes beacon but the council never believe you until the reaper fleet shows up in ME3.
Also just wanted to add the way the Thorian was written works for me just because I love using the line “I don’t argue with plants”, almost as much as telling the Rachni Queen “I didn’t come here to talk to bugs”.
The "Stupid Machine!" Growl from the Krogan is a much used quote in my life, it always cracks me up 🤣❤
Since ME3 Leviathan I liked to think the Thorian is the immature version of the builders of the Reapers. Similar MO enslaves other races, extremley arrogant visually similar with its tentcale face thingy...
Well if saren hadn't done what he did we probably could have forged an alliance
When I first played ME1 I for sure thought the Thorian race *was* what created the Reapers due to the visial similarities...
Imagine the Thorian being indoctrinated by the reapers if there was an option of letting him live. Imagine having him as an enemy then, like you meet Morinth (as a Banshee) on Earth if you chose her instead of Samara. He would be the hardest enemy to kill (except Wrex on Virmire) if you think of his wisdom and strength. Well, I think it's better killing him considering this could probably happen. Though it'd be interesting learning more about his history.
The Thorian's only saving grace could of been going dormant during the Reaper Invasion/Harvests. Feros may of been the one planet aside from Ilos to have non-Indoctrinated Prometheans. That up to every Promethean on Feros could of been deeply controlled by the Thorian by the time the Reapers came back. This would explain how the Thorian devoured *every* Promethean on Feros back in the day.
I’d actually like a quest in Mass Effect 3 to start growing a new thorian under the mental influence of the interconnected colonists based on the interaction with the Asari on Zhu’s hope. In order to boost the war asset by another 60 since it fixes most health issues and increases their resistance to indoctrination. And, maybe the thorian taking control of the banshee on the colony if you pick Morinth over Samara
The Reapers would have no reason to indoctrinate or even attack the Thorian and its survival may in part be linked to this fact. Since the Thorin does not develop any technology of its own it seems to have found a loophole to the Reapers murder spree.
Maybe it can’t be indoctrinated. Seems like a poor man’s Leviathan. Maybe a baby Leviathan?
@@usbiv223 definitely following a similar evolutionary pathway, maybe the thorian is a plant that incorporated leviathan DNA in the first place
I'd really love to hear from Shiala again in the next Mass Effect game to find out about what happened to everybody at Zhu's Hope. If she feels everyone's pain, it must have been traumatic for her to have felt the deaths of many of the people there (if they are all dead in the setting).
Boy oh boy has the Legendary Edition improved these graphics. I just finished up the Feros mission the other day. Been loving all your videos, even finding new stuff I've never seen or even heard of before. I've been playing this trilogy over and over, loving it as the favorites for me. And still finding new stuff to this day in it. SO glad they did the Legendary Edition. :-)
This thing feels like a plant based version of the Leviathans later....so I probably would have killed it in every playthrough given the option. Lovecraftian monsters must not be suffered.
Leviathan 1: So...
Leviathan 2: We have heard
Leviathan 3: That you are calling
Rachni Queen: Us insufferable
Urdnot Wrex: We have
Geth: A few choice words
Asari: To discuss Outlaw
Was literally looking up videos on this thing yesterday, I just started going through ME1 again and this thing just had me asking question after question. Keep up the great work and hold the line!
You've helped me rediscover my love for Mass Effect, thank you!
Glad to hear it! Only a few more months until the remaster comes out!
@@BigDanGaming I know! I am very excited.
3:45 you could also punch them as the team ai wont shoot them unless you do. So melee is a good counter.
I always thought that green asari was turning into a sort of thorian herself.
I remember having a hard time in that mission due to the weird controls in ME1. Just thinking about it gives me PTSD.
*I hated being a rag doll and running out of grenades*
Fuck asari commandos
All my homies hate asari commandos
If you're running out of grenades, you're doing it wrong. Aim your grenades for the center of any group, then detonate them for best effect (don't wait for them to explode on their own, you'll lose effectiveness). There's also a cache to refill your grenades when you get out of the tunnel system.
I also do Feros last of the three main quests (prior to Virmire), so I can max my Charm and win over ExoGeni rep Jeong.
@@pauls478 I was lucky enough to stumble over a High Explosive mod for my guns a bit earlier. Did put it in my sniper rifle with some heat asborption stuff. Transformed it into a oneshot rifle and could even shoot 3 times before overheating. Went and yeeted everyone out of the way.
I love your content, keep it coming!
Thank you! Will do!
Great idea coming out with these before the remaster. I can't wait
Awesome content Dan! Will wait for more in the future!
I’m just perseverating on the timeline piece here: but it’s likely to be 100,000 years instead of 50,000 due to the fact that the prothians disappeared 50,000 years ago, and it’s roughly 50,000 years later when the reapers come for humanity in the current cycle. The Thorian predates the Prothian and thus would’ve come from one cycle before that. Kind of like a great grandparent, thus it would’ve been double the length of time from the Prothian’s extinction.
"Your lives are short but have gone on too long" is such a great line
Super hype I found this channel!!
I remember the first time I played ME, I was wondering why the colonist counter was decreasing despite using grenades. (You get knock out gas for them)
Turns out I was using cryo grenades, the icons looked similar. Also, punching them (close range attack) is also non-lethal.
“Damn it! Tell me what I want or I’ll blast your virtual ass into actual dust!” By far one of the best Krogen lines ever uttered, god I love those big hot headed brutes so much.
Man, seeing this old ME1 footage and just having beaten ME1 in the Legendary Edition, they definitely made it look way better
He has it on low settings or something, because my old pc version looks tremendously better.
Before I can ask a question, you’ve already made a video, an explanation, and uncovered all options. Thank you.
You are welcome!
The Thorian is really underrated and interesting… probably the most “alien” thing in the whole series. I hope we see more of it somehow.
Loved this one in ME1, was also quite creepy for its time ;D
*_TURN THE SIDEQUESTS IN BEFORE COMPLETING THE FEROS MISSION!_* You can do the all _except_ for one, so just in case. In Legendary Edition, you can use melee to knock the people out if you run out of the grenades.
I found your channel a couple days ago and fought the Thorian again last night, and then I see this pop up, coinicidence? Probably.
Great content. Can you please do a video on the recommended order in which to do every side mission related to Cerberus in ME1?
The way Shiala describes the situation in ME2, it sounds like she has taken on the abilities of the Thorian, but she is also still affected by the Thorian mind-control ability. It's hard to understand if the writers were conveying that she has become the new Thorian and the "Pain" she feels is kinda like the way the Thorian experiences self-preservation instincts - OR - if the Thorian is still alive and controlling the entire colony.
Maybe in ME 4 we'll see more of the thorian or if we're lucky we'll see more on the inusannon. always thought that the two species that fought against eachother at that time (Inusannon and Thoi'han) were references to the thorian
Thorian was basically an organic Reaper, saving it and then potentially trying to make a dial with it would end bad in the fight against the Reapers, there is a reason its so old and survived the last Reaper cycle lol
Actually i think that Thorian is still alive.
I love these videos. Very informative, even though i have played the trilogy multliple times. But whats up with the extremely low textures?
You forgot to mention that you can also bash the colonists with a weapon and oddly despite being smashed in the face with a weapon, they are only knocked unconscious, not killed
You forgot to mention in ME3, the Illusive Man bases his indoctrination research at least partially on the Thorian, as does Dr. Bryson on the Leviathan dlc. Mentions of it are sprinkled throughout the game.
Thanks Big Dan.
I thought there is nothing else to squeeze from the franchise. So glad I was wrong! Thank you! :)
The thorian could've been a great weapon against the Reapers, if some sort of accomodation could've been arranged. For example, it being intelligent, reasoining that slaving "our" people was not acceptable but that "we" will willing provide whatever it needs and in exchange it will allow us to research it and use its abilities against the reapers, specifically to protect people against indoctrination. And also the Thorian can work as a scholar to earn resources of its own from the wider galaxy, tp eventually become a productive member of galactic society during peace time and an example of how this cycle is very different from the previous, as even completely "alien" sentient organisms can have positive relations with the more common humanoid species.
Maybe this si too "Star Trek" of me, but Shepart did try to establish an arreangement, if not for the Thorian being jaded for the betrayal it suffered from Saren.
I always remembered, that the first time i played ME1 on 360, i had a speech check with the thorian but didn't have enough points for either direction.
I've replayed the game like 5 times on PC since then, and never got a speech check.
Are you sure you're not confusing it with the speech check involving Jeong?
@@GTAVictor9128 Pretty sure. Maybe i remember it wrong, maybe they patched it out. But i never found evidence for it, so probably a lapse of memory.
You got to do a video of the Blue Asari that was working for Saren in ME1 that you end up seeing in ME2 on Grunts mission.
It's kinda hard to believe that the fall would be enough to kill it. It probably faked it's death and went into hiding or something like that.
Why did you have the texture setting on low though?
This video save me reloading a previous save!
Maybe because of her previous attachment to Thorian she inherited so of its abilities like she is connected to all of the others who were under its control in a sense she is The Thorian
Too bad that there is no way to respond to Shialas flirt in ME 2.
She would be a nice romance intererst for Shepard.
i question whether the grenades you use to knock the colonists out can be used anywhere else in the game, theres a few other spots where you fight thorian infected opponents
Feros in general raises so many questions. It's a dead Prothean city, with hints of at least one additional layer of another even-older civilization below that. Presumably, both city layers were wiped out by the Reapers, but then there's the Thorian hanging out there, old enough to remember the Protheans' last days.
The Thorian doesn't look like it belongs there, but also acts like the Protheans were newcomers. It also doesn't seem particularly inclined to build structures or equipment - at least, other than stuff its mind-controlled slaves use, like giving Shiala clones body armor and handguns - so it doesn't seem likely it would have bothered building cities. The shaft it's suspended in looks industrial, so it doesn't seem likely the Protheans were researching it in a lab, and it overgrew its containment after the Reapers swept through. Shiala and the VI mention the part of the Thorian that Shepard drops into the pit is more or less just the thing's brain, but the thing has tendrils that go for miles throughout the ruins, so I suspect it was something the pre-Prothean civilization created or discovered.
With that in mind, the most interesting possibility is that it was the Thorian, not the Reapers, that destroyed the pre-Prothean civilization. No matter what the setting is, it's never easy to deal with an uprising of mind-controlled fast zombies.
I wonder if the Thorian and Leviathan are somehow connected, given their similar tactics...
Can you do a video on what happens if you don't recruit Samara? Love your stuff.
Watching all these vids while I wait for the legendary edition
Blast your virtual ass into actual dust is still one of my all time favorite lines ever.
I’m sure ppl watching Mass effect videos in 2022 know but just to add to the bit on dealing with the colonists, you can melee them if you run out of gas and it will just knock them out/they’ll survive
For my squad I recall the final fight being one of the hardest, I kept getting rag-dolled haha. If I can recall correctly I noticed odd pip marks on the Nodes, where you could weaken it to a point. I dropped its health to there, but the doors didn't open. Also, this is a memory from, what 10 years ago? Does anyone else recall that?
I assume at one point they were going to have the option to save the Thorian like the Queen but either didn't want to have a long sentient plant and the mess that would have on the overarching story, or they ran out of time.
I appreciate all the content, man. :) Mass effect is such an incredible series. If you need an idea for a future video, I would love to see how you can romance Ashley (ME1), romance Miranda (ME2), and then romance Ashley again (ME3) and keep both members alive and good terms 👍🏻
Miranda dies in ME3 if you romance her in ME2 and then break up with her in ME3 regardless of anything else you do
Sorry, this is very off topic, but as someone who has only played LE I had no idea just how much it improved the visuals of ME1. Phenomenal
the lighting could use some work tho
Hey dan was excited to see i just caught your video these are going to be a big help next month but i was hoping you could do a video on a character i heard about in passing apparently if you spare them in 1 they kill a bunch of people in 2 and 3 and garrus says something like how many times are we going to forgive this guy? I'd love to know so i can save some more lives :)
Is this maybe rana thanoptis ?
Yes it is after reading your reply i read all about the character and decided to let her live because she makes a me2 mission more interesting and she only kills via email anyway,,,
Wait. Of you can only kill it. Then what are those two arrows in the health bar of the nodes? Never tried to juuuust damage them in that range and see what happens.
Melee is a great alternative to disable the colonists if you run out of nades.
Could the spores act as some kind of reproduction of the Thorian? Maybe one in the colony might become a new one over time and the rest are a guard / work force like a ant colony?
this is one of the things i hope they change in the remaster but dont expect to
really feels like an incomplete mission ending
It's crazy though somehow Zhu's Hope colonist are able to fight the reapers equal to a Asari commando skills.
Unofficially you could take some plant cells and propagate a variation of it, combining genes from it and some other plant. You'd really have to go and recover the body of the plant to have any hope of making another pure strain. You could also extract some of its spores.
So it could return, or something like it could make an appearance.
On what settings do you play? Because really, was the game so low quality?
Do you have a video about dealing with the Exo-geni scientists?
9.2k almost there
I always loved the Krogan scene on Feros lol, “STUPID MACHINE!!!”
Plot twist the threon is secretly the borg queen
ExoGeni: We found a life-form that can control people's minds at will through airborne transference.
Illusive Man: HOW COME NO ONE EVER TOLD ME OF THIS?!
It's younger than the Leviathans but does share some resemble to it. Could be close relation to it.
I killed Shiala because I was afraid of the collateral affects Saren's indoctrination, combined with the Thorian's spores and the fact she was inside a cocoon in order to serve as a model for the creation of clones could have on her. I mean, as far as we know he could have planted a seed inside of her to grow back in the future.
I thought you could by only damaging the limbs to between the two arrows on it's health bar. I could be wrong so if someone could fact check me that would be great. But i could have sworn that was right and that you could prevent it's death.
I could've sworn I saved it too, I only played me1 a few months ago and I definitely remember leaving the damage bars between those little arrows, and still progressing onwards.
you forgot you can knock them out with melee to i ran out of grenades and i tried to melee and it worked just thought id let you know. on a side note, love your videos thank you for the info.
I was pretty sure that you meet with Lisbeth if you don't spare Shiala, but I could be wrong.
I disagree with that last argument that the Thorian itself would not have made a good ally. True, it would be a threat to any allies, but if handled correctly, could be used to potentially make a limitless army. The power to clone lifeforms could be used to make cannon-fodder or even an elite army of the best Specters, STG, or Asari Commandos could make an effective force to holding Reaper forces back. Obviously, these forces couldn't be controlled by anyone but the Thorian, who could always decide to switch sides(through its own will or Reaper indoctrination). Also, the Thorian spores could be a good way to counteract Reaper indoctrination. Reapers have to be somewhat close to their target to warp their mind. When Saren and The Illusive Man were away from the Reapers, they could start to fight their indoctrination. But Thorian spores will stay with the victims for presumably the rest of their lives. If the Illusive Man ever got a few Thorian spores on him, we can assume that the Thorian's will would be stronger than the indoctrination. If they could even just make the spores themselves by studying the Thorian, they could find a way to control their own people without them being thralls of the Thorian.
In my LE game, she was blue instead of green when I killed the thorian. Was that a bug or did someone else have that happen?
I wanted to ask.
What happens if kill the 16 colonists? Is there any consequence to this?
I am starting a Renegade run but I ended up sparing them.
If Shiala is spared, she remains a commando and doesn’t flirt with Shep to help the colony. If she is dead, a human colonist takes her place. In ME3 Feros has no impact whatsoever. Only if you save the colonists and Shiala do they have an impact via war assets and a message from Shiala.
I could have sworn that you could save the thorian. Wasn't there a part where if you only shot partially the nodes that you could negotiate with it? I swear there was some way of shooting the nodes not quite all the way
I think Shiala's message in ME3 is like that sinply because of oversight. You could potentially miss her on Illium in ME2 which is why she explains that the Thorian is actually dead. I think that the dev team meant to put in something to acknowledge that Shepard already met her back on Illium in ME2. Sort of how Conrad accuses you of pointing your gun at him in ME1 even if you didn't.
"somehow, The thorian returned."
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Imagine Shepard offering a squadmate for the cipher. Renegade for life