You’re the first to compare anything to Claas balers which are nothing but problems. I had so many problems I turned it in to the dealer after a year and lost a lot of money but thanked god it was gone. They were so bad my dealer dropped Claas balers when the Massey 4160/80 was released. The Lely/Massey 4160 has been such a solid baler for me with zero problems and I bale 22k bales a season on two 4160’s. Just to cover all bases, I’m pulling them with a Fendt 724 and a 722. Hardly anyone buys Claas balers in the USA. All you have to do is Google, I’m not alone.
Kuhn, Deere 900s (nowadays v4x1) and Krone are a different concept. In my opinion even better. The integral rotor runs fast on every crop and moisture I've tried. All of them are basically the same, but the innovative integral rotor is really a step ahead
I like all 3 Mchale claas and welger designs. I went with Mchale was $6k lower for demo unit than a comparable claas. 6750 is new netter design. Upside/downside they use way heavier built components. All major parts are auto greased or greasable. Rollers everything. But I do like the smaller overall size of the claas. But at over 6k higher for one with a auto greaser and “options” to make it come close to the Mchale. Lol great videos!
You said those balers will out run the Deere’s. My 458 is the most eatin’st baler I’ve ever seen. The feed rotor helps it out a ton. Starts a bale so good I don’t have to slip the clutch at all. Just go. Only plugged it once and it was in wet hay that was balled up from my crappy rake lol. The only thing that kills it is the gate speed and I believe that’s where those European style balers will win any day. LOVE that Massey. Have you seen the new Kuhn 560 baler? It’s pretty sweet. As always hope you and the family is doing good.
How spacious is the inside of the baler in terms of being able to replace parts or bearings? Does debris relatively stay off of the baler or does it still build up in certain places? You don't have to answer these questions now, you can wait till your review sometime.
The MF Hesston round balers have self-contained hydraulics which means you don't hook up any lines to the tractor (just the hitch & PTO). The baler stops the pickup, wraps the bale, clutches, opens & kicks out the bale, a bale holder goes out to hold the bale from possibly rolling back, the door closes, it declutches and away you go. All we have to do is hit the brake when the bale is full-size and when it beeps saying its done, we take our foot of the brake and we are back baling. Too Easy.
I have a question. If you had to buy a round baler again now. Which one would you choose? Claas or Massey Ferguson? We are currently considering purchasing a new press. and we choose between MF 4160V or CLAAS VARIANT 465RC PRO .
What is your opinion on a 2006 Claas Variant 280? Local dealer has 1 for sale with very low bale count. I looking to bale my own hay currently and looking at low cost to get into.
Yep I’m in Georgia 🇺🇸! I’m about 45 minutes east of Cain’s. The speed sensor wires some how got pulled out of the sensor so I had to have a new sensor put in for spraying an I didn’t have time to do it myself. Just picked it up today
I took it down to many people got but hurt over a joke and unsubscribed can’t say anything anymore even about Equipment everyone has gotten so sensitive it’s really getting old
@@BagwellFarms Interesting. Here in Ontario, anyone making hay makes some amount of wrapped hay, it's just about impossible to make dry hay here for first cut. Feed preservation and quality is hard to beat with it.
@@virendsouza6359 I agree the quality is better but cattle prices are so bad here in the U.S. financially it just doesn’t make sense you’ll never get your money back out of them with all the extra cost of wrapping. The beef industry is not doing good at all family farms that have been around for multiple generations are selling out an going out of business. There dropping like flies It’s the worst it’s ever been here.
@@BagwellFarms I wouldn't say our prices in Canada are great either, we don't have near the number of processors you do in the US. I'd say when prices are low is when putting up good feed matters the most. The better the feed, the more milk cows put out, the better the gains/efficiency, the faster stockers go out the door and turn into $, but that's just my opinion.
@@virendsouza6359 well that’s where there’s a difference in climate we can dry hay here easier an it’s not as cold so we don’t have to feed as much nutrients to get the same results. That being said even with the gains of milk production from the extra nutrition for what we’re getting here on our cattle with the extra cost of wrapping when you don’t need to you’ll go broke. I’m not saying Canada cattle are high y’all are in the same boat we are with the processors or aka packers manipulating the markets but one thing y’all do have going for y’all is the money conversion from the U.S. dollar to Canada’s dollar when selling cattle into the United States every dollar from the USA to Canadian dollar is $1.24 so y’all gain .24 cents for every dollar .24 cents a pound is a lot these days
@@duncanosborne4871 I know problem is if I don’t say there not someone reads it an takes it as they are an it turns into a big deal about how I’m making advertisements lol but thank you for the compliment that means a lot idk though there’s a lot of other good UA-camrs out there but I really appreciate y’all watching 👍🏻
I'm just not a fan of the European style balers like these. In my honest opinion the 8 & 9 series JD balers are very reliable and long lasting machines without a ton of electronics on them. They will eat all the hay you can give them at speeds up to 10 mph (if you need to travel that fast) and they are also straight forward & simple to operate and work on. Not saying those are not good balers you have, just cant see how there better with all the unnecessary bells & whistles they seem to have. Although none of them are cheap, so I guess you might as well get more for your money. As long as it doesn't make more headache to deal with later on.
Well I understand where your coming from I used to have the same opinion to be honest before we purchased the claas an finally I got disgusted with the older styles performance I started with old equipment sperry new Holland’s an etc worked my way to a 504L then to the 504M that is the same as a 7 series deere. I’ve been there with the simpler balers I will say they have come along way but that’s because they took stuff off the European balers to improve them. It’s intimidating looking at the European style balers but honestly they don’t have any more electronics than the 9 series Deere’s in the claases case it has little to no electronics it actually is mostly Mechanical compared to the deere believe it or not. What freaks people out is the front load net system because it clutters the sides up honestly outside the net systems there’s not a lot of differences besides the pickup heads an the heavier bearings because there silage balers to me the pickup heads are light years ahead with the rotors an wide pickups they never plug an as for the net systems I found front loads are more complex but they tie better an there faster because you eliminate the net having to touch the belts. The biggest advantages to the European style is there silage balers everything is built a lot heavier than the traditional balers the bearings are twice as big the chains are twice as heavy in them witch means longevity for durability in dry hay next is speed they tie an cycle faster which cuts down time an fuel consumption they’ll also pack tighter bales which cuts back on net usage the Massey can run 16 plus mph if you can stay in the seat an can produce a bale up to 2000 pounds in a 4x5 I’m telling you if you ever get to run a good European style baler you’ll be hooked
@@BagwellFarms Thanks for the info & explanation, I respect your opinion. Maybe one day I will get the chance to run one & see for myself but untill then I will stick to the "if it aint broke dont fix it" approach. I hear the newer Vermeer balers are nice but have never ran one, mostly because my JD has never let me down or had me discouraged enough to try a different brand, it just keeps going with little to no issues with normal maintenance & lubrication.
do you ever get comments from these idiots wondering why you dont mob graze and do "regenerative" ranching? i swear some of these people are clueless on how the real cattle business works lol sorry about my ranting
Lol no I’d welcome someone to debate me on that issue they don’t want to talk to me most the nuts figured out a long time ago I’m not the kind to debate 😏
Cain equipment is a great place. Prayers for Ed, God's speed with his recovery. That baler is pac man of rollers. Great video and stay safe out there
You’re the first to compare anything to Claas balers which are nothing but problems. I had so many problems I turned it in to the dealer after a year and lost a lot of money but thanked god it was gone. They were so bad my dealer dropped Claas balers when the Massey 4160/80 was released. The Lely/Massey 4160 has been such a solid baler for me with zero problems and I bale 22k bales a season on two 4160’s. Just to cover all bases, I’m pulling them with a Fendt 724 and a 722. Hardly anyone buys Claas balers in the USA. All you have to do is Google, I’m not alone.
Kuhn, Deere 900s (nowadays v4x1) and Krone are a different concept. In my opinion even better. The integral rotor runs fast on every crop and moisture I've tried. All of them are basically the same, but the innovative integral rotor is really a step ahead
I like all 3 Mchale claas and welger designs. I went with Mchale was $6k lower for demo unit than a comparable claas. 6750 is new netter design. Upside/downside they use way heavier built components. All major parts are auto greased or greasable. Rollers everything. But I do like the smaller overall size of the claas. But at over 6k higher for one with a auto greaser and “options” to make it come close to the Mchale. Lol great videos!
You said those balers will out run the Deere’s. My 458 is the most eatin’st baler I’ve ever seen. The feed rotor helps it out a ton. Starts a bale so good I don’t have to slip the clutch at all. Just go. Only plugged it once and it was in wet hay that was balled up from my crappy rake lol. The only thing that kills it is the gate speed and I believe that’s where those European style balers will win any day. LOVE that Massey. Have you seen the new Kuhn 560 baler? It’s pretty sweet. As always hope you and the family is doing good.
How spacious is the inside of the baler in terms of being able to replace parts or bearings? Does debris relatively stay off of the baler or does it still build up in certain places? You don't have to answer these questions now, you can wait till your review sometime.
The MF Hesston round balers have self-contained hydraulics which means you don't hook up any lines to the tractor (just the hitch & PTO). The baler stops the pickup, wraps the bale, clutches, opens & kicks out the bale, a bale holder goes out to hold the bale from possibly rolling back, the door closes, it declutches and away you go. All we have to do is hit the brake when the bale is full-size and when it beeps saying its done, we take our foot of the brake and we are back baling. Too Easy.
Esse funcionamento é top, desde jeito é mais prático e simples
I have a question. If you had to buy a round baler again now. Which one would you choose? Claas or Massey Ferguson? We are currently considering purchasing a new press. and we choose between MF 4160V or CLAAS VARIANT 465RC PRO .
Dad gum man that’s puttin er in a roll. Good to see MF red workin together!
How does the 4710 handle the Baler ?. Mine seems Lil underpowered or lack of torque I guess pulling my NH Baler...
What is your opinion on a 2006 Claas Variant 280? Local dealer has 1 for sale with very low bale count. I looking to bale my own hay currently and looking at low cost to get into.
i would be interested in seeing the difference in the cut bales vs non when feed to cattle.
I’ll try and make a comparison video 👍🏻
Didn't know you were in Georgia. Think I just saw your 5445 at Cain's today. Just getting some service's done or something happen to it?
Yep I’m in Georgia 🇺🇸! I’m about 45 minutes east of Cain’s. The speed sensor wires some how got pulled out of the sensor so I had to have a new sensor put in for spraying an I didn’t have time to do it myself. Just picked it up today
👍 Tryed to play your video from today, looks like it was taken down?
I took it down to many people got but hurt over a joke and unsubscribed can’t say anything anymore even about Equipment everyone has gotten so sensitive it’s really getting old
If the moisture is too high, why don't you wrap it?
Don’t have a wraper an for beef cattle it’s not worth it
@@BagwellFarms Interesting. Here in Ontario, anyone making hay makes some amount of wrapped hay, it's just about impossible to make dry hay here for first cut. Feed preservation and quality is hard to beat with it.
@@virendsouza6359 I agree the quality is better but cattle prices are so bad here in the U.S. financially it just doesn’t make sense you’ll never get your money back out of them with all the extra cost of wrapping. The beef industry is not doing good at all family farms that have been around for multiple generations are selling out an going out of business. There dropping like flies It’s the worst it’s ever been here.
@@BagwellFarms I wouldn't say our prices in Canada are great either, we don't have near the number of processors you do in the US. I'd say when prices are low is when putting up good feed matters the most. The better the feed, the more milk cows put out, the better the gains/efficiency, the faster stockers go out the door and turn into $, but that's just my opinion.
@@virendsouza6359 well that’s where there’s a difference in climate we can dry hay here easier an it’s not as cold so we don’t have to feed as much nutrients to get the same results. That being said even with the gains of milk production from the extra nutrition for what we’re getting here on our cattle with the extra cost of wrapping when you don’t need to you’ll go broke. I’m not saying Canada cattle are high y’all are in the same boat we are with the processors or aka packers manipulating the markets but one thing y’all do have going for y’all is the money conversion from the U.S. dollar to Canada’s dollar when selling cattle into the United States every dollar from the USA to Canadian dollar is $1.24 so y’all gain .24 cents for every dollar .24 cents a pound is a lot these days
How much did kane equipment pay for mentioning them😂hope you have a good season harvest and hay season is over here in the uk
$0 They’ve never give me a cent and I wouldn’t take it if they offered they’ve always been really good to us over the years
@@BagwellFarms Just kidding bud but you have some of the very best baling videos on here
@@duncanosborne4871 I know problem is if I don’t say there not someone reads it an takes it as they are an it turns into a big deal about how I’m making advertisements lol but thank you for the compliment that means a lot idk though there’s a lot of other good UA-camrs out there but I really appreciate y’all watching 👍🏻
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I'm just not a fan of the European style balers like these. In my honest opinion the 8 & 9 series JD balers are very reliable and long lasting machines without a ton of electronics on them. They will eat all the hay you can give them at speeds up to 10 mph (if you need to travel that fast) and they are also straight forward & simple to operate and work on. Not saying those are not good balers you have, just cant see how there better with all the unnecessary bells & whistles they seem to have. Although none of them are cheap, so I guess you might as well get more for your money. As long as it doesn't make more headache to deal with later on.
Well I understand where your coming from I used to have the same opinion to be honest before we purchased the claas an finally I got disgusted with the older styles performance I started with old equipment sperry new Holland’s an etc worked my way to a 504L then to the 504M that is the same as a 7 series deere. I’ve been there with the simpler balers I will say they have come along way but that’s because they took stuff off the European balers to improve them. It’s intimidating looking at the European style balers but honestly they don’t have any more electronics than the 9 series Deere’s in the claases case it has little to no electronics it actually is mostly Mechanical compared to the deere believe it or not. What freaks people out is the front load net system because it clutters the sides up honestly outside the net systems there’s not a lot of differences besides the pickup heads an the heavier bearings because there silage balers to me the pickup heads are light years ahead with the rotors an wide pickups they never plug an as for the net systems I found front loads are more complex but they tie better an there faster because you eliminate the net having to touch the belts. The biggest advantages to the European style is there silage balers everything is built a lot heavier than the traditional balers the bearings are twice as big the chains are twice as heavy in them witch means longevity for durability in dry hay next is speed they tie an cycle faster which cuts down time an fuel consumption they’ll also pack tighter bales which cuts back on net usage the Massey can run 16 plus mph if you can stay in the seat an can produce a bale up to 2000 pounds in a 4x5 I’m telling you if you ever get to run a good European style baler you’ll be hooked
@@BagwellFarms Thanks for the info & explanation, I respect your opinion. Maybe one day I will get the chance to run one & see for myself but untill then I will stick to the "if it aint broke dont fix it" approach. I hear the newer Vermeer balers are nice but have never ran one, mostly because my JD has never let me down or had me discouraged enough to try a different brand, it just keeps going with little to no issues with normal maintenance & lubrication.
do you ever get comments from these idiots wondering why you dont mob graze and do "regenerative" ranching? i swear some of these people are clueless on how the real cattle business works lol sorry about my ranting
Lol no I’d welcome someone to debate me on that issue they don’t want to talk to me most the nuts figured out a long time ago I’m not the kind to debate 😏