I Realised This About The "ABSD LOOPHOLE" | These Property Buyers May Not Be Stupid...

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  • @joshconsultancy
    @joshconsultancy  Рік тому +1

    Disclaimer: I'm trying to figure out why it may have been a loophole. The narration is from my best assumption on how it works and may contain inaccuracies. Consult a proper lawyer with regards to home ownership structure.
    Article source: www.singaporelawwatch.sg/Headlines/iras-probes-home-buyers-who-used-99-to-1-loophole-to-avoid-paying-absd

  • @hatchegg80
    @hatchegg80 Рік тому +5

    It's clearly designed to avoid ABSD, the govt should do the right thing and make all these people pay absd and fine them

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому +1

      From news articles, now is a period for voluntary admission

    • @DonYang73
      @DonYang73 Рік тому +1

      I agree. The authorities should hammer them. Clear cut evasion. Secondly, foreign properties also count as additional property, authorities should hammer them accordingly, otherwise authorities can take a hike. Toothless tiger

  • @jennylim1558
    @jennylim1558 Рік тому

    Respect you Josh, for your integrity in not supporting all these loopholes and sneaky ABSD defaulters! 👏👍. If one can afford another property for investment or whatever, then they should pay their fair share of ABSD else properties would become too expensive for our own Singapore young 1st time buyers.

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      Thank you for the high praise and I agree with your point of view

  • @Stothereal
    @Stothereal Рік тому +1

    few scenarios:
    a) a SG citizen and foreigners/EP spouse: if they buy together, absd is 30% on the entire purchase. Loophole: the SG spouse buy first, then sell 1% to the foreign spouse, 30% of the absd is paid on 1% of the purchase price.
    b) a couple in which one of the spouse already owns a property
    c) rich speculator who owns property, can ask his family members who own no property to buy first, then resell 1% to him. ABSD on that 1% only, then when the unit TOP, they flip the unit
    Also, I hope the government will close that "loophole" allowing HDB owners to decouple and buy a private condo

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      Good narration on the scenarios above.
      Hdb cannot decouple. That “gift of home to spouse” loophole has long been banned already from what I hear

    • @mkt282
      @mkt282 Рік тому

      Case #1 loophole need to be addressed

    • @Stothereal
      @Stothereal Рік тому +2

      @@joshconsultancy A married couple owning a BTO should NOT be allowed to buy a private condo, and should be forced to sell the HDB once one of the spouse buys a condo.

    • @june1040
      @june1040 Рік тому

      How can the Buyer buy first & immediately sell 1% away to "relative", No need pay SSD? I think Govt should ban Developer from allowing sub sale?!?

    • @NEAAFFAIRS
      @NEAAFFAIRS 7 місяців тому

      @june1040 the pay all stamp duties which some agents tout is still cheaper than paying full absd

  • @stevenheng3336
    @stevenheng3336 Рік тому +1

    Likely also agents are 'advising' them..

  • @NEAAFFAIRS
    @NEAAFFAIRS 7 місяців тому

    This was quite common and is on some property agents podcast.
    Im surprise the figure is that low at 160ish

  • @bahbahbah8460
    @bahbahbah8460 Рік тому +1

    aren't loopholes supposedly legal? or is it the intention to evade tax that is the crime?

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому +1

      Guess its intention to exploit and indeed paying a wrongly lower amount which could make it illegal

  • @2011crane
    @2011crane Рік тому +1

    I dont understand the use of probe. To me it seems that a potential crime was comitted. I think they should do an internal revieww and be held responsible for losses due to these loopholes

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      Innocent until proven guilty
      but your opinion noted

  • @kangjingtan7312
    @kangjingtan7312 Рік тому

    What do you think about this common scenario ? Buying HDB with 1 as owner and other as essential occupier with the intention of the 'essential occupier' purchasing a private property after 5 year MOP and avoiding ABSD.

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      This is similar to 99-1 planning for first time owners and imo not tax evasion.
      The cases highlighted are those buying NOT their first, possibly exploiting the 1% transfer mechanism

  • @JJ-iu6sr
    @JJ-iu6sr Рік тому

    Hi Josh, in this 1 to 99 arrangement, when the property is sold for a profit, will the master owner, who owns 1% of the property but paid 100% of the mortgage, be entitled to 100% of the profit? Or he/she will get 1% while puppet owner receives 99%?

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому +1

      Legally only entitled to 1%. That’s why if the puppet wants to take advantage it is possible. Hence you realize, it’s all “relative” where there is some trust.

  • @sgdadbored
    @sgdadbored Рік тому +1

    Pretty sure IRAS knows the “loophole” and allow it to happen for as long as possible and sweep them all up when time comes for redemption or bonuses 🎉 here’s the time.

  • @markchan6923
    @markchan6923 Рік тому

    I’ve a fren who claimed that she decoupled her first property with her husband and her husband in turns bought another property co-own under this 99-1 structure with their son. I doubt she actually decoupled d first property with her husband. If she had decoupled, and after decoupling, why is it that her husband only own 1% of d new property and d son owns 99%. Clearly, her husband is d one with d financial capacity. Make no sense.

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому +1

      The new IRAS guidelines on only first time property buyers will eliminate some of these intentions

  • @ocswoodlands
    @ocswoodlands Рік тому

    the best property strategy is buy the 1st HDB flat using tenancy in common structure.

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      Owner - occupier u mean?

    • @RenoKong
      @RenoKong Рік тому

      @@joshconsultancy when will owner-occupier be treated as a "loop-hole" as well?

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      @@RenoKongit’s more of tax planning like 99-1 for first time owners. Hdb eligibility again are ALL first time owner.
      I interpret as no one in that application has evaded absd?

    • @RenoKong
      @RenoKong Рік тому

      @@joshconsultancy Wife owner while occupier husband buy condo so that each has 1 property. That’s two property under one nucleus without ABSD. Does this sorta be classed under “avoiding” ABSD?

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому +1

      @@RenoKongone in each name by default is not avoiding absd in todays context.
      In the scenario mentioned in this video, “puppet master” owns 1 or more already in his/her name and paid absd on 1% which may be tax avoidance

  • @DonYang73
    @DonYang73 Рік тому

    I like the terms you use, puppet and puppet master. 😂😂💪👍

  • @malita354
    @malita354 Рік тому

    ❤ Great Episode! Kudos to you for your the Investigative efforts and findings. Its an opinion we appreciate 👍
    Technically speaking a simple query to the hdb database will flag out every 99-1 lease owners . Then one by one investigate them will reveal a pattern. Interesting that there is such a "loophole"😅

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for high praise.
      Hdb cannot transfer btw. On private front, 99-1 is not a problem. As the rule suggest now, both being first time owners is allowed for planning and these are not abusers
      It’s only when 1% from the 100% that is transferred to someone who has existing properties. That is a sign of deliberate abuse of the loophole

    • @malita354
      @malita354 Рік тому

      @@joshconsultancy Intent need to be proven which i feel be very difficult. Cheers

  • @Longtermalwayswins
    @Longtermalwayswins Рік тому

    Please take this in good faith. The youtube premieres feature is an extremely annoying feature that tells someone something is happening and does nothing but this. If possible, disable it and see if it helps increase your subs. 👍🏻keep up the good work.

  • @malita354
    @malita354 Рік тому

    If all 99-1 need to pay full tax if buy 2nd property, why need whistle blowers when all data can be found by querying the database?😅

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      Not ALL.
      It's those that TRANSFERRED 1% ownership after exercising option. TRANSFERRED so as to pay ABSD on only 1%
      Not first timers who dont need to pay absd anyway and structured 99-1% at start
      Hope it clarifies

    • @malita354
      @malita354 Рік тому

      @@joshconsultancy Thanks Josh! Is this data (the actual affected transactions) not also at a click of a button?

  • @kenlim5315
    @kenlim5315 Рік тому

    Tax Evasion and Tax Avoidance are 2 different terms. Do use it carefully. :)

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      Certainly
      The cases highlighted are those individuals who have already at least one property in their name and possibly exploiting the 1% transfer mechanism.
      That could be evasion depending on the finding

    • @jennylim1558
      @jennylim1558 Рік тому

      What's the difference? Same intent!

  • @chengjm7696
    @chengjm7696 Рік тому

    Hi Josh, I own a property and am blessed to have inherited another property from my late parents. For inherited property there is no payment of ABSD. In future if I were to buy another property, will this new property be considered as my second or third property as the amount of ABSD payable is hugely different. Thank you.

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      Hi Cheng, in my understand it is 3rd. Do double check w lawyers 👌🏻

    • @chengjm7696
      @chengjm7696 Рік тому

      @@joshconsultancy
      Thks

  • @lyonlee86
    @lyonlee86 Рік тому

    Nice 👍

  • @lishr4536
    @lishr4536 Рік тому

    omg ppl actually talk about divorce and transfer hdb flat?! who sia lol

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому

      there are real cases unfortunately

    • @lishr4536
      @lishr4536 Рік тому

      confirm HDB not so stupid la. they confirm will keep an eye also right. once kena thats it..@@joshconsultancy

  • @steven298
    @steven298 Рік тому +1

    There are legit cases that need to sell that 1% if buyer can't enough loan yet want to invest or for ownstay which might need parent help on loan due to tdsr & increasing interest rate stress test. I think the problem now are some buyers might exploit hence iras is checking.. if its really illegal, URA can simply don't allow to add new owner/buyer to the property ownership 😅

    • @Ben-gp5ty
      @Ben-gp5ty Рік тому +1

      Cannot afford then don buy Condo, whether its investing or for own stay, its still tax evasion

    • @RenoKong
      @RenoKong Рік тому +1

      @@Ben-gp5ty then why still allowed in the first place if not legit case?

    • @joshconsultancy
      @joshconsultancy  Рік тому +1

      Personally I don’t think that’s a valid reason. Parent can fund more down payment to solve it
      If there were correct intentions, it should be structured 99-1% right at the start and absd on full amount. Might as well full purchase in child’s name. Again it highlights the transfer mechanism was exploited.

    • @MsCorydorus
      @MsCorydorus Рік тому

      @@joshconsultancy But is not a tax evasion issue but more URA one.

    • @LanceTeo-yr7qp
      @LanceTeo-yr7qp Рік тому

      @@MsCorydorus Not tax evasion, but is confirmed tax avoidance. Not criminal, but still need to pay back nonetheless.