This is. by far, the the most imformative, factual, slant free and civil presentation I have seen on the current state of the Covid control efforts. That this sort of discussion should somehow be considered " controversial " is more disturbing than anything said in the presentation itself. A classic Dr Z . Thank You.
I'm happy with how my state (Indiana) has handled the roll out. They have asked individuals who recently had Covid to wait 3 months before getting the vaccine. It is open to healthcare workers, front line workers (such as firefighters and police), and ages 65+.
@@davidfayfield6594 yeah he's been right, but about what? "Covid will probably be with us for a while and not burn out in summer". Gutsy call there. He never talks about reasons for hope beyond 'the vaccine', or how to live and think in a healthy way about our situation, beyond shutup sitdown and wait for your jab.
I won’t touch a dose until every person I know over the age 60 or people I know with chronic illness has had their dose. I had Covid in May. I did not die I’m here it wasn’t fun but my immune system did it’s job and I recovered at home just fine.
My aunt whom is a breast cancer survivor, 81 years old, along with My god mother whom is 63, also a cancer survivor, got both of their vaccines a month ago and are doing fine. I only recently got mine because I’m almost done with my course before I go into the medical field, along with my family wanting to meet with me again (I really miss them). But I had to see that my aunt who is that old to get her vaccine for me to go and get mine. Especially because I have a heart condition and can’t risk catching something like covid. I only have the first dose so far and I feel fine. I’m just apprehensive about the second dose
You may know only 7 people over sixty. This does not make you an angel. How about wait for your dose until you learn that over 80% of people over 60 get the dose.
@@Frip36 as I work in the healthcare field more like 700 thanks for the ignorance have a wonderful Fourth of July. But FYI at this point we have more then enough vaccine and not enough people willing to get vaccinated.
Oh I’m so glad you posted this. I was concerned because our Ontario government has moved second dosing to 16 weeks as I mentioned on your other videos . I feel a bit more at ease .
My 21 year old son had CoVid around Thanksgiving. He graduated college in Dec and just got a job in a pain management clinic. He was offered the vaccine but declined it. My first thought was. “Why?” But now listening to you I feel better about his decision.
My son is a senior in college in Boston and his university is one of the first in our area that is ready to offer the vaccine to all its faculty, staff and student body. I said it was his choice when it’s his turn, but now I’m rethinking that.
I watch the news everyday. I don't think the world is going to end. Can't wait to get my vaccine. very healthy 66 years of age. Really want to travel again. Dr Marty Makary is my hero.
36:00 As a nephrologist I’m so happy this was mentioned! Kidney disease is one of the worst risk factors for poor Covid outcomes. He’s absolutely right! We need to give the vaccines to dialysis centers. We are super efficient at giving vaccines to our patients.
You are growing on me. Presenting all more calmly and logically. Good topic. As for me, I am waiting until the crazy rush over. It is nice having time to exercise, resd, study, since I am fortunate to be able to take a long time off from work. No, not lazy, but like being on unemployment and staying safe. First time at 59 getting unemployment, so I paid my dues for decades. I am in remission for cancer, too, so maybe good to play it safe. I still would not try to go to front of the line. Older people need it first and people in the medical field. My 37 year old son is a doctor, a pharmacist, he has no appointments available for him. I am not worried. He is young. My 25 year old bounced back quickly after he got it from his gf. They did not report it, so yes, herd immunity is higher than reported. Young people are just bouncing back without reporting it. Lucky them.
Hey Dr. Z, I don't know if you'll see this but I have to say: you, Dr. Makary, and Dr. Attia have done an excellent job of providing a balanced perspective on these vaccines. As someone who was very skeptical about getting vaccinated, and now has to be in order to keep my job, I feel much better about getting these shots than I ever could have imagined. Thank you for the work that you do, sir.
Yep. I am a dialysis RN. We are associated with a hospital so we were able to obtain some vaccines. 80 RNs were trained in 3 days and 1000 doses given in 5 days. We are ready to give more but aren't promised any more doses at this time.
From the Moderna trial EUA I read, they specifically said only 1 dose gave around 80% protection for 1 month and basically said they doubted the protection would last longer than 1 month.
"I" an "CS (common sense" left the building months ago. Having spent 30 years in various wings of infectious disease, makes me wonder why things have been handles so badly and against every scientific protocol ever practiced. I also hold responsible the CDC which has been a political organization for more than a decade, rather than a scientific organization, as well as the NIH, for inconsistent and irrational guidance!!!! Thank you for a great discussion.
@@jonsixxx6569 absolutely. I mean the loss of taste and smell is horrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone but that certainly does not merit getting a vaccine for me.
I am a frontline ER nurse. We were told to get two dose vaccine. I got a significant immune response of 103.7 fever, chills and very achy. I was miserable for 48 hours. But I sure don’t want to get Covid but more over, not spread it to my older parents and others.
@Denise Skinner u need to show the burden of proof. I did my research. “Prove yours” you will not be able to and all you wish to do is scare people and spread fake news.
@Denise Skinner ...you said it has HIV in it...you’re wrong....absolutely wrong. You proved it by your idiot statement. And don’t pretend to play virologist ..you don’t have the brains for it.
I so agree with this whole conversation about how hard it is for older people to get it. I was in the Moderna trial, so I don't feel bad that I got my card first because we were in the vaccine group. I spent a couple hours refreshing the page at a pharmacy to get my Mom a new date because it snowed. They were not fast enough to get it themselves.
My husband started coughing and running a low grade temp Friday. I questioned Covid. Monday he was tested for Covid ahead of a sleep study that was scheduled for Tuesday evening. Sure enough he tested positive for Covid. Sleep study was cancelled. Monday night our son started running a low grade temp with a tummy ache. Son was tested on Tuesday. Today the nurse called and reported our son had tested positive also. Felt no need for me to be tested. To just assume that I have it too. As the day has gone alone, I am starting to develop symptoms. 🤢
Get tested in a few days, so then you will have some reassurance of immunity. That's why I sent my spouse and daughter to get tested, even though they weren't very sick during Thanksgiving. Both were positive for Covid. Now, they are not so worried about getting it. It's peace of mind.
I’m so sorry. It’s a rough ride for a while but then it gets better. Whatever you do, don’t read any scary Covid stories. It drove me absolutely out of my mind when I was sick and I had to block the topic on my feeds. Best wishes for a quick recovery.
@@Meganmama I agree. The horror stories are everywhere. My sister in law lost her mom to Covid a few weeks ago. She was elder and had several comorbidity issues. One being mid late stage dementia.
I was so hoping you would interview Marty. Read his article on medpage and felt like it would be a great talk. You didn’t let me down. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much for your video. I am 75 and appreciate your concern for my welfare. I just got my 1st shot and I am waiting for my 2nd shot until my other elderly friends get their first shot.
No one should die alone. As a nurse I agree. If I know a patient is going to die, I won't leave them or if I have a lot of patients I will have a CNA or sitter stay with that patient. I work in a nursing home and it has gone insane.
@@wifemom You're welcome. However, it isn't something I feel I should be thanked for. I became a nurse because I cared about helping people. The sad thing is nursing school does not teach compassion (at least mine didn't). There are no other nurses on my ward that do this. It is very heartbreaking because in a nursing home a lot of the time we are the only family they have. Families will just dump their elderly into a nursing home and never come back and change their phone number. If they have family I do my best to get them there to be with their loved ones. I've had several patients I've found dead in bed on second med pass (I work evening 3-11:30pm and sometimes night shift 11pm to 7:30am) and it makes me feel so guilty they are alone. I take the time to get to know each of them. Their religious beliefs and other things. You'd be surprised how many feel their window needs to be open in order for their soul to be able to leave. No matter their request I do my best to make sure it happens and when I lose a patient I cry. I've cried with their families and friends. I've attended their memorials and funerals if I can. None of this is required by me nor encouraged, but what I don't understand is why be a nurse if you have no compassion or empathy? It isn't like we make lots of money and aren't overworked! I do it because I feel that was my calling. I always wanted to be a doctor, but since I have several chronic illnesses that sometimes land me in the hospital, most are uncaring and don't give the time of day to you. The doctors that come to the nursing home are they same and most treat the nursing staff horrible. If a doctor makes a mistake on a med order and the nurse doesn't catch it, you'd think it would be the doctor to get punished, right? Nope. We take the down fall. We know more about the meds than they do and that to me is horrifying. Never be afraid to ask your doctor questions or demand answers or explanations. They work and are paid by you. Sorry for the rambling, but this topic gets me heated every time. LoL! Thank you for your kind comment. I hope you have a great day!
In Scotland our government concentrated on first dose to all care homes and staff, the most vulnerable in Society and within a short time we were over 96% first dose to our most vulnerable :) First doses are planned to continue to the next vulnerable group, working down to the less vulnerable. Of course the UK government and its supporters are attacking the Scottish for this, but thats normal these days as Scotland is pushing towards becoming an independent country. We spend more on our health care and health care workers than the rest of the UK and seem to value our Health workers much more than the rest of the UK , keep up the good works guys you are valued and appreciated by many. Scotlands approach to the vaccination roll out ...numbered list below :)) 1. Residents and workers in care homes for older people. All those over 80 years of age and over. Starting for logistical reasons with long-term hospital inpatients who are over 80. 2. Patient facing, frontline healthcare workers. Staff who have frequent face-to-face clinical contact with patients and who are directly involved in patient care in either secondary or primary care/community settings. Non-clinical but patient facing staff in secondary or primary care/community healthcare settings. Laboratory and pathology staff Social care staff directly involved in the care of their service users and others involved directly in delivering social care such that they and vulnerable patients/clients are at increased risk of exposure 3. All those 75 years of age and over 4. all those 70 years of age and over and clinically extremely vulnerable individuals 5. all those 65 years of age and over 6. all individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality and Unpaid carers* 7. all those 60 years of age and over 8. all those 55 years of age and over 9. all those 50 years of age and over I think the care workers and frontline staff are inoculated to try keep them fit and healthy, not take time of work, and not spread any virus to their vulnerable patients :) www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/govscot/publications/strategy-plan/2020/12/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-deployment-plan-2021/documents/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-deployment-plan-2021/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-deployment-plan-2021/govscot%3Adocument/COVID-19%2Bvaccine%2Bdeployment%2Bplan%2B14%2BJanuary%2B2021.pdf Its not just AI we need to worry about, in the UK and specifically Scotland the whole pandemic has been politicised and used as a weapon against Scotland, it is very sad, concerning, disgraceful and shameful :( It has become a political game and Scotland is the main target :( The Oxford Astra vaccine details are published inline with The Lancet :) www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-02-02-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-shows-sustained-protection-76-during-3-month-interval I also follow Dr John Campbell, you should do a Zoom call with him, he goes over studies, looks at various figures, news, updates but always stays away from politics, always provides links to any research papers or reports .. give him a shout or watch a few of his videos :) ua-cam.com/channels/F9IOB2TExg3QIBupFtBDxg.html absolutely great work as usual Mr Zeeeeee :) all the best from Scotland :)
Great talk and guest. Herd immunity can kick in at 20 to 30% infected but only with a lot of social distancing. If we acted normally, we would be overwhelmed with cases. But it does mean that we can open up society gradually as the vaccinated percentage increases. Very hopeful here in UK to see a slow return to normal over the spring and summer. Our vaccine hesitancy is less than 20% in the old and vulnerable. I think it will be higher in younger age groups but they will not typically fill the hospitals.
@@flagmichael good thoughts but with it being used more and more in some countries and their cases declining by leaps and bounds it seems to have an impact if used in conjunction with other vitamins and minerals. I really don’t understand the push back unless it’s profit driven
So sad we are getting to a point where tubers can't have an open discussion without fear of being canceled. Just imagine how much data has been blocked we don't know about. And how many tubers had a differing opinion but are afraid to bring it up. This is so antiscience. The way it use to work if, you had a hypothesis with new data you questioned it and tested it. Now if you bring up a question or hypothesis with anything different but what our overlords say they cancel you.
Wait what do you mean immune after having it? My friend who is 40 had Covid and is a nurse. She then had the antibody test and had no immunity so they gave her the vaccine? Please clarify.
Antibodies naturally peak and then decrease. I'm friends w several ICU nurses in NYC and the same happened to them and they explained the antibody cycle to me. From what I've read exposure to common existing coronaviruses gives the majority of people an innate T-cell immune response and they often have a no reaction/no antibodies at all(he mentions t-cell memory halfway thru the video). If she got very sick then prob she generated the antibodies and then they decreased.
What's crazy is people are gonna crucify him for saying that, but he didn't even say "don't vaccinate those who've been infected". He said "don't vaccinate those who've been infected RIGHT NOW". He makes it very clear that he thinks people who have been infected should get vaccinated eventually, but they shouldn't be the priority right now. Which, even if he's wrong, I don't think that's a super polarizing and hot take, but people are still gonna lose their shit about it anyways.
“Why have we seen a massive drop in cases in the last few weeks?” Because orange man bad and we massively exaggerated everything and anything we could to make him look bad. Period.
Why can't people see this, its like watching a cheap soap opera. I haven't watched television in 12 years, maybe it does brainwash people. I'm a nurse on the front lines so I am not in an isolated box. Why aren't people questioning this craziness.
Here in MN they vaccinated all hospital personnel including office staff and employees who aren’t even at the medical facilities first before the 65+ community outside of nursing homes. In addition to that the vaccine’s were passed out to hospital systems who were supposed to distribute to smaller clinics and groups with personnel at high risk but it was more important to vaccinate the hospital IT personnel first. Also, what about the people under 65 with health conditions putting them at risk. There’s been no mention of them at all.
All of those support staff are pretty important in keeping the hospital running smoothly. The number of hospital employees is relatively small and won't have much effect on available vaccine to the general public.
Enjoyed this and it reaffirmed my gut instinct not to take for myself one of the extra doses of vaccine that I was given by our local hospital to vaccinate a few of my patients. We have a huge waiting list of elderly patients and I am getting older every day but not yet in the age range and have no comorbidities. My elderly patients that I have offered this vaccine To have been super excited! Dr. Damania, you got the hookup on the great guests!!🙌🥰❤️
Short term immunity after infection? Tcell immunity there for sars 17 years later, it is lifelong except like everything else in your body, becomes weaker with old age.
I think a big part of our problem is worrying way too much about prioritizing. We've got most of the healthcare workers at least one dose (who want it), we've vaccinated most of the nursing homes. The last group we need to worry about are those over 65 and with certain chronic illnesses. After that, open it up to everyone. I see too much in the news about teachers, bus drivers, pilots and flight attendants, etc who all want their special place in line. Forget it! Prioritizing slows down administration. We've still only administered about 55% of the doses that have been distributed. That's insane! There needs to be much quicker turn around from delivery to administration.
It depends on what state you're in also because some of the states aren't even vaccinating those under 75 anytime soon and I'm sorry I don't think teachers need to be first on that list over those who are high risk from actually dying from this virus
The question needs to asked...how many people die of variant Y after having variant X? My guess is less. You shouldn't try to outguess its adaptive path; just kill what's in front of you and adapt to its adaptations. It is not physically possible to wipe out all of the viruses; our systems are too inefficient. I think you cannot stop a mutation from happening even with a quadruple dose. Chances are it will become endemic, but will not appreciably increase normal mortality rates.
Speaking from a UK perspective (where we've just passed the 50% vaccination first dose threshold for adults), this is a breathe of fresh air and pretty well everything that Dr. Makary has said has supported what he said based on the real world evidence. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation made the recommendation to follow the extended (12 week) inter-dose period for both the AZ and Pfizer vaccines - the two currently used. There was also a very well defined priority group system based primarily on age but also on first line medical and social care staff and it seems to be working. From a disastrously high case rate at the end of December amplified by the B.1.1.7 "Kent/UK" variant, now in the middle of March we have just about the lowest case rate in Europe. I know that Dr. Fauci has near guru status in the USA, but his insistence on rigorous adherence to the 3-4 week intervals between doses is unwise in my view and not backed up by the ample real-world evidence that is appearing. Almost the whole of Europe outside the UK has gone the same way, and case rates are ballooning there. Still they persist in the rule of only following the exact protocol in the clinical trials. What none of these policy makers appear to have noticed is that Pfizer and Moderna did not choose a 3-4 week interval because it was optimal. They chose it as the shortest interval that appeared to be effective and which allowed the trials to be completed as quickly as possible. One the AZ trials, which appear to have been somewhat less consistent, it's now clear that a longer interval is actually beneficial. It's also now clear in the UK stats that, in terms of preventing serious symptoms, hospitalisations and onward transmission, the AZ and Pfizer vaccines produce similar results with, maybe, a few days more delay in the case of the former (perhaps because it takes a few more days for infected cells to start pumping out the antigen). The one point that is most concerning is the variants, and especially the South African one against which the current vaccines are a lot less effective at preventing symptomatic infections (although it's unclear about the effect on serious symptoms and hospitalisations). I believe about 10% of new cases in France are of the SA variant and that may yet derail things. However, I'm reasonably hopeful that it won't be disastrous and that modified boosters ought to be available towards the end of the summer to cope with variants. In any event, the human race must have adapted to new viruses before, and even corona viruses. I believe there are four in circulation and it seems to me that we acquire some resistance in childhood and at least some semblance of that remains during adulthood and the odd reinfection due to viral mutations or fading immunity is rarely serious and refreshes the immunity. That's until we get much older when it might turn into a pneumonia due to a less active immune system.
The government has failed seniors because everything is net based for information and vaccine scheduling. So a 85 year old lives outside email or use of the internet. I run a seniors group so we gave out telephone list to the mayor who had workers call the seniors to set up appointments for vaccine shots.
The UK is doing 12 weeks so they could get the most at risk (60+ years old or with sever conditions) with at least the first does as soon as possible. All people over 60 have been offered a vaccine, some are getting there second dose now. My first dose is tomorrow and so all 50+ year olds will have had two doses by end of June. But the UK decision was to protect the free health service we have here so the most likely to end up in hospital get the first dose as soon as possible. It was NOT an efficacy decision.
Completely disagree with the delayed second dose strategy. We may be contributing to variants, we may be contributing to asymptomatic carriers (which is admittedly better than severe disease) and both mRNA manufacturers have stated they cannot guarantee their high rates of efficacy if doses separated. We do NOT have data to that effect re protection from severe disease. Makes no sense to me to do this to the most vulnerable who are being vaccinated now UNLESS we get real data about separating doses in this population.. Also-our definition of positive PCR has changed, dramatically less testing in some areas (is that reflective of less disease or not?)
I have been waiting for someone to say what this guy is saying. It’s insane that my son, the pediatric dentist, my son in law, a general practitioner, and my son in law, a medical student, all got vaccinated before my 91 year old father. A highway patrolman was required to be vaccinated even though he had recovered from Covid and the resulting side effects meant he had to call someone to drive him home.
Dentists are at high risk due to close proximity to their patients and viral droplets that are aerosolized. When I went to the dentist a few months ago, they took my temperature to screen me. But, many people with covid never get a fever, so that is not an accurate method of screening.
The real oddity to me is, why doesn't the US approve the Oxford/Astra vaccine and then deploy that as a single dose to healthcare workers and marginal risk groups, while preserving the mRNA vaccines which are a little better for older people. Use Oxford/Astra for complex prioritizations and essential workers and so on, its ease of transport and dosing will help with that, while deploying the mRNA vaccines purely from community centers which deploy based on age alone. Furthermore, why isn't novavax almost approved. Why isn't Johnson approved? What is the delay. We need more vaccines for everyone.
My own unvaccinated immune system has been 100% effective here in Stockholm, so far. I'm a nice guy, young, only 63. I'll let you all go ahead of me. I will take the last place in the vaccine line.
Where I live people are getting sick but won't get tested so are the numbers really down or less testing because people are afraid of being restricted if #'s climb ?
US stockpiles are getting dangerously low with the NO promise of when the next ice cream truck is going to drop more on the corner. Your video today makes sense to we, the providers in the field. Watching from the Balkans which have been pretty much forgotten as far as vaccine goes.
All they need to do to distribute the vaccine to the community is give it to pcp offices and community pharmacies. We do it every year for flu and all other vaccines.
Thanks for articulating this. As a scientist, and former RNA virus researcher, I get asked a lot why I have not tried to get int a vaccine queue. Even other PhDs are disbelieving when I tell them I am waiting until others get the vaccine because I were already infected.
@Denise Skinner Give it up hen and find something worthwhile to do with your life. I live on my own and caught covid from my work place last march. I finally recovered in November. As I live in Scotland my age group 65 - 69 most have had their 1st jag. Me, I skipped out the door Friday night for mine. What delighted me even more was the fact that the injection I got was the one I really wanted which was as you call it the 'monkey virus', the oxford astra zeneca one. Those people working down there worked day and night month in month out for nearly a year. As many other countries have. I really hope you or the older members of your family don't catch it because if it heads south it's a horror nightmare you'll never forget. Those 'monkey type jags' are what saved me from polio and goodness knows what else. Look up 'Iron Lungs' and the few older patents who have one at home which keeps them alive. The 2nd vid I watched, the man was a lawyer and worked from his iron lung. The whooping cough jag I just found out started in 1972. Too late for me and hundreds of thousands of children, many who died. Me, I was 10, had it bad along with a younger brother. My other 2 siblings weren't as ill. I was off school 6 months. When I went back too school I had two small hills to walk up going home. I walked up them for months like a 95 year old. I didn't know the toll that disease had done to my lungs. With a bad bout of whopping cough, your lungs produced excess really thick green mucus which blocked your airways and was semi-solid. But you have to cough it up to basically survive. One of the days my throat was blocked I had no voice or air to call my Mum. How she saved me I can't remember. That happened many times. I'll take that nightmare to my grave. With covid it's basically the opposite, if your lungs head south and your air sacks can't absorb oxygen and your lungs fill with fluid, well i'll leave you to make up the ending on that scenario for yourself. Why would you persistently frighten some people? If you can't say something positive, then maybe keep your fingets off the keypad and find them something worthwhile they could do instead. What's the point of you repeatedly sending the same message?
On that comment about suing poor people who can’t afford their outrageous and overpriced medical bills, what happened to our Hippocratic Oath? “First do no harm”.
Dr. Fauci and the CDC director both Monday and again today that they would follow the science. They also said that there may more bad variations created with only 1 dose of the Moderna or the Pfizer vaccines.
Don't forget social stratification amongst the population as well, I.E.--Less careful individuals or those that just didn't care to isolate or social distance constitute a sub-population that drove high rates of spread but have now achieved herd immunity for that sub-population. It is likely that the persistent slow spread is reflective of those that are social distancing etc. Just a thought experiment but would seem to line up with the current rates of infection.
I have long said that AI was a step too far. Artificial Stupidity (a computer program that makes the kind of mistakes that dumb or ignorant people make) might be achievable and more useful than most AI has been, even if all it does is tell us what to watch out for...
Do we have any evidence that the 2 dose protocol is any more or less effective if we delay for 12 weeks? I thought part of the trial was determining the period between doses and they determined which was most effective already.
This is. by far, the the most imformative, factual, slant free and civil presentation I have seen on the current state of the Covid control efforts. That this sort of discussion should somehow be considered " controversial " is more disturbing than anything said in the presentation itself.
A classic Dr Z . Thank You.
I'm happy with how my state (Indiana) has handled the roll out. They have asked individuals who recently had Covid to wait 3 months before getting the vaccine. It is open to healthcare workers, front line workers (such as firefighters and police), and ages 65+.
Thank you, Dr. Marty Makary, and thank you, Z! Have an amazing day you both!
My two favorite docs IN ONE PLACE!!! Boom!
Every time I listen to Osterholm I get depressed. Dr Z brings me right back up.
Osterholm is rather ridiculous. I listened to him once, that's all it took.
Problem is he’s been right so far
@@davidfayfield6594 yeah he's been right, but about what? "Covid will probably be with us for a while and not burn out in summer". Gutsy call there. He never talks about reasons for hope beyond 'the vaccine', or how to live and think in a healthy way about our situation, beyond shutup sitdown and wait for your jab.
I would love to see Osterholm and Dr Z talk!
I won’t touch a dose until every person I know over the age 60 or people I know with chronic illness has had their dose. I had Covid in May. I did not die I’m here it wasn’t fun but my immune system did it’s job and I recovered at home just fine.
May God Bless your excellent attitude
My aunt whom is a breast cancer survivor, 81 years old, along with My god mother whom is 63, also a cancer survivor, got both of their vaccines a month ago and are doing fine. I only recently got mine because I’m almost done with my course before I go into the medical field, along with my family wanting to meet with me again (I really miss them). But I had to see that my aunt who is that old to get her vaccine for me to go and get mine. Especially because I have a heart condition and can’t risk catching something like covid.
I only have the first dose so far and I feel fine. I’m just apprehensive about the second dose
You may know only 7 people over sixty. This does not make you an angel. How about wait for your dose until you learn that over 80% of people over 60 get the dose.
@@Frip36 as I work in the healthcare field more like 700 thanks for the ignorance have a wonderful Fourth of July. But FYI at this point we have more then enough vaccine and not enough people willing to get vaccinated.
@@Jennstaple I was kinda being a dick on purpose. It's a holiday tradition. You're a good person.
I’d love to read that study concerning the Spanish flu survivors! That’s incredible
Oh I’m so glad you posted this. I was concerned because our Ontario government has moved second dosing to 16 weeks as I mentioned on your other videos . I feel a bit more at ease .
This is exactly what I have been wondering -- why we are rushing to immunize those who had Covid. He always has great speakers on!!
Who is rushing and how would you determine who has had covid? Additionally, the vaccine is cheaper than the covid test and much easier to administer.
@@toby9999 Um I am pretty sure he is talking about he ones who have had a positive PCR. And those people know if they have had a positive test or not😊
Cos tgey can sell tons of old flu shots ?
Watch this video while you can before it gets flagged, demonetized and banned. 🤦🏼♀️
Right? This guy is making too much sense -- this video will be banned! lol!
Ask the pool boy
@@kathebarnett7028 😆
My 21 year old son had CoVid around Thanksgiving. He graduated college in Dec and just got a job in a pain management clinic. He was offered the vaccine but declined it. My first thought was. “Why?” But now listening to you I feel better about his decision.
Your son sounds like an incredible human being.
My son is a senior in college in Boston and his university is one of the first in our area that is ready to offer the vaccine to all its faculty, staff and student body. I said it was his choice when it’s his turn, but now I’m rethinking that.
@@patty-cf7jj it still is your son's choice. Encourage him to decline it so a senior citizen can get the vaccine.
I watch the news everyday. I don't think the world is going to end. Can't wait to get my vaccine. very healthy 66 years of age. Really want to travel again. Dr Marty Makary is my hero.
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As a nephrologist I’m so happy this was mentioned! Kidney disease is one of the worst risk factors for poor Covid outcomes. He’s absolutely right! We need to give the vaccines to dialysis centers. We are super efficient at giving vaccines to our patients.
@Denise Skinner ??
This was one of the best shows you’ve ever had. I thank you both. The information was well needed by the public. God Bless you both. Stay safe!!✨
You are growing on me. Presenting all more calmly and logically. Good topic.
As for me, I am waiting until the crazy rush over. It is nice having time to exercise, resd, study, since I am fortunate to be able to take a long time off from work. No, not lazy, but like being on unemployment and staying safe. First time at 59 getting unemployment, so I paid my dues for decades. I am in remission for cancer, too, so maybe good to play it safe. I still would not try to go to front of the line. Older people need it first and people in the medical field. My 37 year old son is a doctor, a pharmacist, he has no appointments available for him. I am not worried. He is young. My 25 year old bounced back quickly after he got it from his gf. They did not report it, so yes, herd immunity is higher than reported. Young people are just bouncing back without reporting it. Lucky them.
Amazing how things changed since this was posted . In Canada we thought we were going to be ok .
Hey Dr. Z, I don't know if you'll see this but I have to say: you, Dr. Makary, and Dr. Attia have done an excellent job of providing a balanced perspective on these vaccines. As someone who was very skeptical about getting vaccinated, and now has to be in order to keep my job, I feel much better about getting these shots than I ever could have imagined.
Thank you for the work that you do, sir.
Yep. I am a dialysis RN. We are associated with a hospital so we were able to obtain some vaccines. 80 RNs were trained in 3 days and 1000 doses given in 5 days. We are ready to give more but aren't promised any more doses at this time.
@Denise Skinner Where is Jessica Hyde?
From the Moderna trial EUA I read, they specifically said only 1 dose gave around 80% protection for 1 month and basically said they doubted the protection would last longer than 1 month.
Which is why I'm not waiting.
@Denise Skinner lulz who told you that? Q? NewsMax? Faux News?
"I" an "CS (common sense" left the building months ago. Having spent 30 years in various wings of infectious disease, makes me wonder why things have been handles so badly and against every scientific protocol ever practiced. I also hold responsible the CDC which has been a political organization for more than a decade, rather than a scientific organization, as well as the NIH, for inconsistent and irrational guidance!!!! Thank you for a great discussion.
I'll gladly donate my first dose. I've already had covid,it wasn't deadly for me.
Really? How do you know that it wasn't deadly?
@@globalaide49 Obviously he or she survived. So it wasn't deadly for him or her.
@@PuddinTater Oh, I get it
I'm 40 i had it my 3 kids n my wife we are all fine no issues
@@jonsixxx6569 absolutely. I mean the loss of taste and smell is horrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone but that certainly does not merit getting a vaccine for me.
I am a frontline ER nurse. We were told to get two dose vaccine. I got a significant immune response of 103.7 fever, chills and very achy. I was miserable for 48 hours. But I sure don’t want to get Covid but more over, not spread it to my older parents and others.
Its late my grammar off sorry!
@Denise Skinner it does not have HIV in it 🙃
Denise...quit with the lies.
@Denise Skinner u need to show the burden of proof. I did my research. “Prove yours” you will not be able to and all you wish to do is scare people and spread fake news.
@Denise Skinner ...you said it has HIV in it...you’re wrong....absolutely wrong.
You proved it by your idiot statement.
And don’t pretend to play virologist ..you don’t have the brains for it.
I so agree with this whole conversation about how hard it is for older people to get it. I was in the Moderna trial, so I don't feel bad that I got my card first because we were in the vaccine group. I spent a couple hours refreshing the page at a pharmacy to get my Mom a new date because it snowed. They were not fast enough to get it themselves.
Great guest today.
Nothing but love gents❣️Thanks so much for demonstrating healthy convo & info skills! 💯💯💯😁
My husband started coughing and running a low grade temp Friday. I questioned Covid. Monday he was tested for Covid ahead of a sleep study that was scheduled for Tuesday evening. Sure enough he tested positive for Covid. Sleep study was cancelled.
Monday night our son started running a low grade temp with a tummy ache. Son was tested on Tuesday. Today the nurse called and reported our son had tested positive also. Felt no need for me to be tested. To just assume that I have it too. As the day has gone alone, I am starting to develop symptoms. 🤢
Get tested in a few days, so then you will have some reassurance of immunity. That's why I sent my spouse and daughter to get tested, even though they weren't very sick during Thanksgiving. Both were positive for Covid. Now, they are not so worried about getting it. It's peace of mind.
I’m so sorry. It’s a rough ride for a while but then it gets better. Whatever you do, don’t read any scary Covid stories. It drove me absolutely out of my mind when I was sick and I had to block the topic on my feeds. Best wishes for a quick recovery.
@@sandylewis8897 Thanks for the advice. 🤗
@@Meganmama I agree. The horror stories are everywhere. My sister in law lost her mom to Covid a few weeks ago. She was elder and had several comorbidity issues. One being mid late stage dementia.
Please try to get you and your family in hot baths, sauna, etc. Hot jacuzzis really helped my husband and I while we were sick with covid.
Hospital administrator’s spouse here. Still waiting for my turn. Age 63.
@Denise Skinner - What’s your point?
@Denise Skinner Sounds like a terribly inefficient way of committing genocide. I would use the tried and test chem trail method.
@Denise Skinner Where is Jessica Hyde?
@Denise Skinner I’m interested in your dilemma, I’m not up to date on darpa , can you fill me in on that?
I was so hoping you would interview Marty. Read his article on medpage and felt like it would be a great talk. You didn’t let me down. Keep up the good work.
For the algo...bc more people need to see your channel!
Thank you so much for your video. I am 75 and appreciate your concern for my welfare. I just got my 1st shot and I am waiting for my 2nd shot until my other elderly friends get their first shot.
You are so right about the news! I read the BBC on my tablet out of habit, but must stop doing that
This was an awesome segment! Thanks!
No one should die alone. As a nurse I agree. If I know a patient is going to die, I won't leave them or if I have a lot of patients I will have a CNA or sitter stay with that patient. I work in a nursing home and it has gone insane.
No one should live alone; everyone dies alone.
Thank you for your mercy.
@@wifemom You're welcome. However, it isn't something I feel I should be thanked for. I became a nurse because I cared about helping people. The sad thing is nursing school does not teach compassion (at least mine didn't). There are no other nurses on my ward that do this. It is very heartbreaking because in a nursing home a lot of the time we are the only family they have. Families will just dump their elderly into a nursing home and never come back and change their phone number. If they have family I do my best to get them there to be with their loved ones. I've had several patients I've found dead in bed on second med pass (I work evening 3-11:30pm and sometimes night shift 11pm to 7:30am) and it makes me feel so guilty they are alone. I take the time to get to know each of them. Their religious beliefs and other things. You'd be surprised how many feel their window needs to be open in order for their soul to be able to leave. No matter their request I do my best to make sure it happens and when I lose a patient I cry. I've cried with their families and friends. I've attended their memorials and funerals if I can. None of this is required by me nor encouraged, but what I don't understand is why be a nurse if you have no compassion or empathy? It isn't like we make lots of money and aren't overworked! I do it because I feel that was my calling. I always wanted to be a doctor, but since I have several chronic illnesses that sometimes land me in the hospital, most are uncaring and don't give the time of day to you. The doctors that come to the nursing home are they same and most treat the nursing staff horrible. If a doctor makes a mistake on a med order and the nurse doesn't catch it, you'd think it would be the doctor to get punished, right? Nope. We take the down fall. We know more about the meds than they do and that to me is horrifying. Never be afraid to ask your doctor questions or demand answers or explanations. They work and are paid by you. Sorry for the rambling, but this topic gets me heated every time. LoL! Thank you for your kind comment. I hope you have a great day!
@@cmvamerica9011 Not everyone dies alone.
Great guest and conversation!
In Scotland our government concentrated on first dose to all care homes and staff, the most vulnerable in Society and within a short time we were over 96% first dose to our most vulnerable :)
First doses are planned to continue to the next vulnerable group, working down to the less vulnerable.
Of course the UK government and its supporters are attacking the Scottish for this, but thats normal these days as Scotland is pushing towards becoming an independent country. We spend more on our health care and health care workers than the rest of the UK and seem to value our Health workers much more than the rest of the UK , keep up the good works guys you are valued and appreciated by many.
Scotlands approach to the vaccination roll out ...numbered list below :))
1. Residents and workers in care homes for older people.
All those over 80 years of age and over. Starting for logistical reasons with long-term hospital inpatients
who are over 80.
2. Patient facing, frontline healthcare workers.
Staff who have frequent face-to-face clinical contact with
patients and who are directly involved in patient care in either
secondary or primary care/community settings.
Non-clinical but patient facing staff in secondary or
primary care/community healthcare settings.
Laboratory and pathology staff
Social care staff directly involved in the care of their
service users and others involved directly in delivering
social care such that they and vulnerable patients/clients
are at increased risk of exposure
3. All those 75 years of age and over
4. all those 70 years of age and over and clinically extremely
vulnerable individuals
5. all those 65 years of age and over
6. all individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying
health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious
disease and mortality and Unpaid carers*
7. all those 60 years of age and over
8. all those 55 years of age and over
9. all those 50 years of age and over
I think the care workers and frontline staff are inoculated to try keep them fit and healthy, not take time of work, and not spread any virus to their vulnerable patients :)
www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/govscot/publications/strategy-plan/2020/12/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-deployment-plan-2021/documents/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-deployment-plan-2021/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-deployment-plan-2021/govscot%3Adocument/COVID-19%2Bvaccine%2Bdeployment%2Bplan%2B14%2BJanuary%2B2021.pdf
Its not just AI we need to worry about, in the UK and specifically Scotland the whole pandemic has been politicised and used as a weapon against Scotland, it is very sad, concerning, disgraceful and shameful :(
It has become a political game and Scotland is the main target :(
The Oxford Astra vaccine details are published inline with The Lancet :)
www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-02-02-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-shows-sustained-protection-76-during-3-month-interval
I also follow Dr John Campbell, you should do a Zoom call with him, he goes over studies, looks at various figures, news, updates but always stays away from politics, always provides links to any research papers or reports .. give him a shout or watch a few of his videos :)
ua-cam.com/channels/F9IOB2TExg3QIBupFtBDxg.html
absolutely great work as usual Mr Zeeeeee :)
all the best from Scotland :)
Great talk and guest.
Herd immunity can kick in at 20 to 30% infected but only with a lot of social distancing.
If we acted normally, we would be overwhelmed with cases.
But it does mean that we can open up society gradually as the vaccinated percentage increases.
Very hopeful here in UK to see a slow return to normal over the spring and summer.
Our vaccine hesitancy is less than 20% in the old and vulnerable. I think it will be higher in younger age groups but they will not typically fill the hospitals.
Lo e you guys!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 just sound reason every single episode. And a good dose of humor ❤️
Dr what do you think of the data on ivermectin
@@flagmichael good thoughts but with it being used more and more in some countries and their cases declining by leaps and bounds it seems to have an impact if used in conjunction with other vitamins and minerals. I really don’t understand the push back unless it’s profit driven
Praise God you are putting this out!
Even when this pandemic is all down to nothing I will still listen to you so don't think your time is ending I would still listen
“The press don’t love a Ho” 😂 omg I love it 😂🤣😭😂😂
Great discussion
Damn! I love listening to intelligent people talk about science
Thank you for the information!
So sad we are getting to a point where tubers can't have an open discussion without fear of being canceled.
Just imagine how much data has been blocked we don't know about. And how many tubers had a differing opinion but are afraid to bring it up.
This is so antiscience. The way it use to work if, you had a hypothesis with new data you questioned it and tested it. Now if you bring up a question or hypothesis with anything different but what our overlords say they cancel you.
I agree that I have learned nothing from Da Fauci , non plus!!
Wait what do you mean immune after having it? My friend who is 40 had Covid and is a nurse. She then had the antibody test and had no immunity so they gave her the vaccine? Please clarify.
Antibody test is extremely unreliable, especially if you don't run it at exactly the right time. See his previous videos.
Antibodies naturally peak and then decrease. I'm friends w several ICU nurses in NYC and the same happened to them and they explained the antibody cycle to me. From what I've read exposure to common existing coronaviruses gives the majority of people an innate T-cell immune response and they often have a no reaction/no antibodies at all(he mentions t-cell memory halfway thru the video). If she got very sick then prob she generated the antibodies and then they decreased.
She may have had a false positive and never had the virus. This would be especially true if she was asymptotic.
@@rayallen1355 I don't think that is the case. She was very sick and her husband also had it and tested positive?
@@alilafont That could be but it was only 30 days after?
Please shut down poor patients being sued...kudos for that work.
I'm 91 years old and have been unable to schedule an appointment for the vaccine.
I'm 69, have six comorbidities, and been trying to schedule an appointment for 5 weeks. It's a nightmare. I'm angry and frustrated.
Thank you!
Maybe we turned the cycle counts down on the PCR. What do you think?
Thank you! Keep talking!
Good information!
EXCELLENT. Very informative!
I am 63 and one of the people who will not need the Covid vaccine. My T cells are quite good. Wishing everyone the best.
Makary's about to get censored because he said "don't vaccinate those who've been infected"! That's against the narrative.
What's crazy is people are gonna crucify him for saying that, but he didn't even say "don't vaccinate those who've been infected". He said "don't vaccinate those who've been infected RIGHT NOW". He makes it very clear that he thinks people who have been infected should get vaccinated eventually, but they shouldn't be the priority right now. Which, even if he's wrong, I don't think that's a super polarizing and hot take, but people are still gonna lose their shit about it anyways.
“Why have we seen a massive drop in cases in the last few weeks?” Because orange man bad and we massively exaggerated everything and anything we could to make him look bad. Period.
Why can't people see this, its like watching a cheap soap opera. I haven't watched television in 12 years, maybe it does brainwash people. I'm a nurse on the front lines so I am not in an isolated box. Why aren't people questioning this craziness.
Here in MN they vaccinated all hospital personnel including office staff and employees who aren’t even at the medical facilities first before the 65+ community outside of nursing homes. In addition to that the vaccine’s were passed out to hospital systems who were supposed to distribute to smaller clinics and groups with personnel at high risk but it was more important to vaccinate the hospital IT personnel first. Also, what about the people under 65 with health conditions putting them at risk. There’s been no mention of them at all.
All of those support staff are pretty important in keeping the hospital running smoothly. The number of hospital employees is relatively small and won't have much effect on available vaccine to the general public.
At my hospital, many front line workers declined the vaccine so they offered it to people working from home any age. Doesn't seem right.
Enjoyed this and it reaffirmed my gut instinct not to take for myself one of the extra doses of vaccine that I was given by our local hospital to vaccinate a few of my patients. We have a huge waiting list of elderly patients and I am getting older every day but not yet in the age range and have no comorbidities. My elderly patients that I have offered this vaccine To have been super excited! Dr. Damania, you got the hookup on the great guests!!🙌🥰❤️
Short term immunity after infection? Tcell immunity there for sars 17 years later, it is lifelong except like everything else in your body, becomes weaker with old age.
All antibodies for any infection falls off short time then t cell take memory
I think a big part of our problem is worrying way too much about prioritizing. We've got most of the healthcare workers at least one dose (who want it), we've vaccinated most of the nursing homes. The last group we need to worry about are those over 65 and with certain chronic illnesses. After that, open it up to everyone. I see too much in the news about teachers, bus drivers, pilots and flight attendants, etc who all want their special place in line. Forget it! Prioritizing slows down administration. We've still only administered about 55% of the doses that have been distributed. That's insane! There needs to be much quicker turn around from delivery to administration.
It depends on what state you're in also because some of the states aren't even vaccinating those under 75 anytime soon and I'm sorry I don't think teachers need to be first on that list over those who are high risk from actually dying from this virus
You guys! ❤️❤️
Are we sure the less effective vaccines or avoiding the second dose won’t lead to more variants or more spread?
The question needs to asked...how many people die of variant Y after having variant X? My guess is less. You shouldn't try to outguess its adaptive path; just kill what's in front of you and adapt to its adaptations. It is not physically possible to wipe out all of the viruses; our systems are too inefficient. I think you cannot stop a mutation from happening even with a quadruple dose. Chances are it will become endemic, but will not appreciably increase normal mortality rates.
No, we don’t.
very informative. Thanks
Speaking from a UK perspective (where we've just passed the 50% vaccination first dose threshold for adults), this is a breathe of fresh air and pretty well everything that Dr. Makary has said has supported what he said based on the real world evidence. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation made the recommendation to follow the extended (12 week) inter-dose period for both the AZ and Pfizer vaccines - the two currently used. There was also a very well defined priority group system based primarily on age but also on first line medical and social care staff and it seems to be working. From a disastrously high case rate at the end of December amplified by the B.1.1.7 "Kent/UK" variant, now in the middle of March we have just about the lowest case rate in Europe.
I know that Dr. Fauci has near guru status in the USA, but his insistence on rigorous adherence to the 3-4 week intervals between doses is unwise in my view and not backed up by the ample real-world evidence that is appearing. Almost the whole of Europe outside the UK has gone the same way, and case rates are ballooning there. Still they persist in the rule of only following the exact protocol in the clinical trials. What none of these policy makers appear to have noticed is that Pfizer and Moderna did not choose a 3-4 week interval because it was optimal. They chose it as the shortest interval that appeared to be effective and which allowed the trials to be completed as quickly as possible. One the AZ trials, which appear to have been somewhat less consistent, it's now clear that a longer interval is actually beneficial. It's also now clear in the UK stats that, in terms of preventing serious symptoms, hospitalisations and onward transmission, the AZ and Pfizer vaccines produce similar results with, maybe, a few days more delay in the case of the former (perhaps because it takes a few more days for infected cells to start pumping out the antigen).
The one point that is most concerning is the variants, and especially the South African one against which the current vaccines are a lot less effective at preventing symptomatic infections (although it's unclear about the effect on serious symptoms and hospitalisations). I believe about 10% of new cases in France are of the SA variant and that may yet derail things. However, I'm reasonably hopeful that it won't be disastrous and that modified boosters ought to be available towards the end of the summer to cope with variants.
In any event, the human race must have adapted to new viruses before, and even corona viruses. I believe there are four in circulation and it seems to me that we acquire some resistance in childhood and at least some semblance of that remains during adulthood and the odd reinfection due to viral mutations or fading immunity is rarely serious and refreshes the immunity. That's until we get much older when it might turn into a pneumonia due to a less active immune system.
Hey doc. Thanks for the info
Dr. Z, please let us know what you decided to do regarding your second dose.
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@@kathebarnett7028 I saw he did from his IG - it evoked a fever.
Glad to see this. I've said all of this and have been attacked for it.
The government has failed seniors because everything is net based for information and vaccine scheduling. So a 85 year old lives outside email or use of the internet. I run a seniors group so we gave out telephone list to the mayor who had workers call the seniors to set up appointments for vaccine shots.
The UK is doing 12 weeks so they could get the most at risk (60+ years old or with sever conditions) with at least the first does as soon as possible. All people over 60 have been offered a vaccine, some are getting there second dose now. My first dose is tomorrow and so all 50+ year olds will have had two doses by end of June.
But the UK decision was to protect the free health service we have here so the most likely to end up in hospital get the first dose as soon as possible. It was NOT an efficacy decision.
You brilliant people! Thank you for this, governments and EU better take note!!!
Completely disagree with the delayed second dose strategy. We may be contributing to variants, we may be contributing to asymptomatic carriers (which is admittedly better than severe disease) and both mRNA manufacturers have stated they cannot guarantee their high rates of efficacy if doses separated. We do NOT have data to that effect re protection from severe disease. Makes no sense to me to do this to the most vulnerable who are being vaccinated now UNLESS we get real data about separating doses in this population.. Also-our definition of positive PCR has changed, dramatically less testing in some areas (is that reflective of less disease or not?)
I have been waiting for someone to say what this guy is saying. It’s insane that my son, the pediatric dentist, my son in law, a general practitioner, and my son in law, a medical student, all got vaccinated before my 91 year old father. A highway patrolman was required to be vaccinated even though he had recovered from Covid and the resulting side effects meant he had to call someone to drive him home.
Dentists are at high risk due to close proximity to their patients and viral droplets that are aerosolized. When I went to the dentist a few months ago, they took my temperature to screen me. But, many people with covid never get a fever, so that is not an accurate method of screening.
The real oddity to me is, why doesn't the US approve the Oxford/Astra vaccine and then deploy that as a single dose to healthcare workers and marginal risk groups, while preserving the mRNA vaccines which are a little better for older people. Use Oxford/Astra for complex prioritizations and essential workers and so on, its ease of transport and dosing will help with that, while deploying the mRNA vaccines purely from community centers which deploy based on age alone.
Furthermore, why isn't novavax almost approved. Why isn't Johnson approved? What is the delay. We need more vaccines for everyone.
As Dr. Jay B says, herd immunity isn't a "strategy," it's our desired outcome.
Immediately what I thought!
Great points about how difficult the news is to interpret by average individuals
My own unvaccinated immune system has been 100% effective here in Stockholm, so far. I'm a nice guy, young, only 63. I'll let you all go ahead of me. I will take the last place in the vaccine line.
@@flagmichael I think you should if you feel like it. I'll let you go ahead of me.
Same with me, 63 also. I’m healthy so I won’t hog a dose when others need it
Where I live people are getting sick but won't get tested so are the numbers really down or less testing because people are afraid of being restricted if #'s climb ?
US stockpiles are getting dangerously low with the NO promise of when the next ice cream truck is going to drop more on the corner. Your video today makes sense to we, the providers in the field. Watching from the Balkans which have been pretty much forgotten as far as vaccine goes.
Praying
We are coming to end of the holiday abandonment of caution. People are back to staying away from each other.
Idk if it’s heard immunity. I think it’s the holidays and people getting scared and autoregulating
Governor of Illinois has decided to vaccinate young prison inmates and the members of the Illinois legislature before elderly, vulnerable citizens.
I want an elephant like that? Anyone know where I can get one?
Speaking of news clips. Fear sells. Disaster sells.
I read the WHO changed criteria for testing to reduce false positives. Could that be part of the explanation of the dramatic reduction in new cases?
That coincides with Bidens inauguration.
There is no 50% reduction in Arizona. The reduction in cases is because they are doing fewer test.
All they need to do to distribute the vaccine to the community is give it to pcp offices and community pharmacies. We do it every year for flu and all other vaccines.
Thanks for articulating this. As a scientist, and former RNA virus researcher, I get asked a lot why I have not tried to get int a vaccine queue. Even other PhDs are disbelieving when I tell them I am waiting until others get the vaccine because I were already infected.
@Denise Skinner Give it up hen and find something worthwhile to do with your life. I live on my own and caught covid from my work place last march. I finally recovered in November. As I live in Scotland my age group 65 - 69 most have had their 1st jag. Me, I skipped out the door Friday night for mine. What delighted me even more was the fact that the injection I got was the one I really wanted which was as you call it the 'monkey virus', the oxford astra zeneca one. Those people working down there worked day and night month in month out for nearly a year. As many other countries have. I really hope you or the older members of your family don't catch it because if it heads south it's a horror nightmare you'll never forget. Those 'monkey type jags' are what saved me from polio and goodness knows what else. Look up 'Iron Lungs' and the few older patents who have one at home which keeps them alive. The 2nd vid I watched, the man was a lawyer and worked from his iron lung. The whooping cough jag I just found out started in 1972. Too late for me and hundreds of thousands of children, many who died. Me, I was 10, had it bad along with a younger brother. My other 2 siblings weren't as ill. I was off school 6 months. When I went back too school I had two small hills to walk up going home. I walked up them for months like a 95 year old. I didn't know the toll that disease had done to my lungs. With a bad bout of whopping cough, your lungs produced excess really thick green mucus which blocked your airways and was semi-solid. But you have to cough it up to basically survive. One of the days my throat was blocked I had no voice or air to call my Mum. How she saved me I can't remember. That happened many times. I'll take that nightmare to my grave. With covid it's basically the opposite, if your lungs head south and your air sacks can't absorb oxygen and your lungs fill with fluid, well i'll leave you to make up the ending on that scenario for yourself. Why would you persistently frighten some people? If you can't say something positive, then maybe keep your fingets off the keypad and find them something worthwhile they could do instead. What's the point of you repeatedly sending the same message?
When do they talk about when to get the 2nd shot?
No captions are available for this video. Is it because it was a live video?
On that comment about suing poor people who can’t afford their outrageous and overpriced medical bills, what happened to our Hippocratic Oath? “First do no harm”.
Dr. Makary is a common sense guy with a good sense of humour.
Dr. Fauci and the CDC director both Monday and again today that they would follow the science. They also said that there may more bad variations created with only 1 dose of the Moderna or the Pfizer vaccines.
Don't forget social stratification amongst the population as well, I.E.--Less careful individuals or those that just didn't care to isolate or social distance constitute a sub-population that drove high rates of spread but have now achieved herd immunity for that sub-population. It is likely that the persistent slow spread is reflective of those that are social distancing etc. Just a thought experiment but would seem to line up with the current rates of infection.
I have two friends who had covid and then had their first Moderna shot. One had a 102 fever and two days in bed, the other took two days off of work.
I have long said that AI was a step too far. Artificial Stupidity (a computer program that makes the kind of mistakes that dumb or ignorant people make) might be achievable and more useful than most AI has been, even if all it does is tell us what to watch out for...
Do we have any evidence that the 2 dose protocol is any more or less effective if we delay for 12 weeks?
I thought part of the trial was determining the period between doses and they determined which was most effective already.
I love starting sentences with a number. It means I'm laying it down. I'm an engineer so maybe that's just me I guess.
My friends family just got it again and they are doing better this time around.