Russell M. Nelson teaches that exalted Latter-day Saints will "preside over worlds and kingdoms."
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- A fourth gift from our Savior is actually a promise-a promise of life everlasting. This does not mean simply living for a really, really, really long time. Everyone will live forever after death, regardless of the kingdom or glory for which they may qualify. Everyone will be resurrected and experience immortality. But eternal life is so much more than a designation of time. Eternal life is the kind and quality of life that Heavenly Father and His Beloved Son live. When the Father offers us everlasting life, He is saying in essence, “If you choose to follow my Son-if your desire is really to become more like Him-then in time you may live as we live and preside over worlds and kingdoms as we do.”
Pres. Russell M. Nelson, "Four Gifts That Jesus Christ Offers to You", 2018 First Presidency Christmas Devotional
More LDS quotes on apotheosis: tokensandsigns.org/these-are-...
Matthew 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
The prophet of God on the earth today. How thankful I am that we have this blessing from our heavenly father. Christ is king!
How many of us truly grasp, Worlds without end. I follow the Saviour and I am great full for our Prophets. I am a weak mortal man who sees the vision. With the Saviour help, I will make it🙏🇦🇺👍
Your prophets are mortal men too.
If they are truly chosen by God, how is there a guaranteed succession when one passes?
we cried all weekend and we cried today 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Psalm 82:6 "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High."
@@aprilpark7223 he’s putting down the Pharisees at that time for placing themselves on pedestals, not being considerate to the poor , putting laws on them that they would not keep………. Mormons tak3 everything out of CONTEXT
@@jamesrexsannatracy8318 listen to the message. Isaiah says it and it’s repeated it in John. How many times do you need to hear it?
@@aprilpark7223 read the WHOLE Psalm. He’s actually rebuking . When it’s referenced by Christ. I feel sorry for Mormons. Read it in context.
@@aprilpark7223 no disrespect ma’am. It the Mormons are absolutely clueless……the church claims that the Bible is corrupted. You should not use his name on your buildings, you are not my sister s or brothers, I wish you were but you are not in Christ. You shouldn’t even reference the Bible it means nothing to you.
@@aprilpark7223 revelations chapter 2 vs 9. Unfortunately is the Mormon cult .
I don’t like being “that guy” who quotes random verses…… but I take these verses literally and very much in line with what President Nelson is teaching here. I believe that my purpose on earth is to become like my Father in Heaven. I believe it is Satan and mankind that limit limits mankind’s potential - not God. If our only purpose was just to return to Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ then why leave their presence in the first place. Jesus Christ sacrificed himself because he knew the worth and potential of the human soul which is infinite and eternal. I really struggle when someone tells me that my soul is worth less.
Romans 8:16-17
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Luke 12:42-44
42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
Pretty simple. Not easy. But with God’s help it is possible.
In all the eternities in all existence there are an infinite number of generations of gods and therefore an infinite number of generations of universes !!! Can any of us really ever imagine that here in the mortal realm ??? WOW !!!
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Lying for the horde 😂
@@bewitched3912 - Too Deep a Doctrine than You Can Handle ???
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@@GaryYates-pi9gy it's only as deep as the horded money, covering up child sex abuse and protecting offenders in exchange for extortion tithes.
It always was a sex cult.
Isaiah 43:10 God doesn't know of any ,how arrogant you must be
@@GaryYates-pi9gy it's a sex cult that covers up sexual assault of kids as young as sex weeks old.
In a trillion years may be true
So Jesus had a Heavenly Father who also had a Heavenly Father (Heavenly Grandpop?)
So much for “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” and, “There were no other gods before me”, and so on. Well, maybe not ALL the verses in the Bible are literal. Right?
@@woodystube1000 the Salt Lake City Spin Doctors have an answer for everything
Is it weird that I want to live with Heavenly Father and Jesus for eternity. But I don’t care to “preside over worlds”? 🤔
Nope not at all. Its ALWAYS a choice. We choose what opportunities the Lord gives. But remember we only have telestial minds and its very hard for us to grasp Celestial things. I think we will come to understand things of "presiding nature " much differently than we do now...imho...
Is Nelson greater than Jesus or Enoch or Abel .
or any member of the church is greater than Jesus or Enoch or Abel ? Jesus said that I did not come so that they would serve me.
Satan who wants to rule worlds and rule kingdoms.
Jesus said the princes of this telestial world exercise dominion over the apostles who are chosen by jesus .
Which means that those who are telestial are those who seek to rule and govern those who are celestial for the celestial will serve as the apostles those who are telestial and do not seek to be a ruler or governor look to Ammon in the Book of Mormon he was sent to minister as a servant not as a king .
Mathieu 20: 25But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
28Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
The prophet Joseph smith taught that the ministering angels are those who are like Jesus and like Enoch and like Abel because Jesus he was a ministering spirit before he was resurrected and became a ministering angel after his resurrection.
TPJS 191: Angels and Ministering Spirits
He explained the difference between an angel and a ministering spirit; the one a resurrected or translated body, with its spirit ministering to embodied spirits-the other a disembodied spirit, visiting and ministering to disembodied spirits. Jesus Christ became a ministering spirit (while His body was lying in the sepulchre) to the spirits in prison, to fulfill an important part of His mission, without which He could not have perfected His work, or entered into His rest. After His resurrection He appeared as an angel to His disciples…. Jesus Christ went in body after His resurrection, to minister to resurrected bodies.
Abel also is ministering angel: TPJS 169: And, again, “By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and by it he being dead, yet speaketh.” (Hebrews 11:4.) How doth he yet speak? Why he magnified the Priesthood which was conferred upon him, and died a righteous man, and therefore has become an angel of God by receiving his body from the dead, holding still the keys of his dispensation; and was sent down from heaven unto Paul to [minister] consoling words, and to commit unto him a knowledge of the mysteries of godliness.
And here again Enoch also is a ministering angel a servant to the telestial.
TPJS 170: Now this Enoch God reserved unto Himself, that he should not die at that time, and appointed unto him a ministry unto terrestrial bodies, of whom there has been but little revealed. He is reserved also unto the presidency of a dispensation, and more shall be said of him and terrestrial bodies in another treatise. His is a ministering angel, to minister to those who shall be heirs of salvation, and appeared unto Jude as Abel did unto Paul; therefore Jude spoke of him (14, 15 verses).
Here the prophet Joseph smith saying that when jesus appeared to his disciples with his resurrected body he appeared as a man made perfect and made ministering servants to them to seal them with power.
TPJS 325: Spirits can only be revealed in flaming fire and glory. Angels have advanced further, their light and glory being tabernacled; and hence they appear in bodily shape. [The spirits of just men are made ministering servants to those who are sealed unto life eternal], and it is through them that the sealing power comes down. Patriarch Adams is now one of the spirits of the just men made perfect; and, if revealed now, must be revealed in fire; and the glory could not be endured. Jesus showed Himself to His disciples, and they thought it was His spirit, and they were afraid to approach His spirit. Angels have advanced higher in knowledge and power than spirits.
These are they who are just men made perfect and are also ministering angels for The spirits of just men are made ministering servants to those who are sealed unto life eternal, and it is through them that the sealing power comes down. :
D&C 76:…this is the testimony of the gospel of Christ concerning them who shall come forth in the resurrection of the just. 53And who overcome by faith, and are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, which the Father sheds forth upon all those who are just and true.
54They are they who are the church of the Firstborn.
55They are they into whose hands the Father has given all things-
56They are they who are priests and kings, who have received of his fulness, and of his glory;
57And are priests of the Most High, after the order of Melchizedek, which was after the order of Enoch, which was after the order of the Only Begotten Son.
58Wherefore, as it is written, they are gods, even the sons of God-
59Wherefore, all things are theirs, whether life or death, or things present, or things to come, all are theirs and they are Christ’s, and Christ is God’s.
60And they shall overcome all things.
61Wherefore, let no man glory in man, but rather let him glory in God, who shall subdue all enemies under his feet.
62These shall dwell in the presence of God and his Christ forever and ever.
63These are they whom he shall bring with him, when he shall come in the clouds of heaven to reign on the earth over his people.
64These are they who shall have part in the first resurrection.
65These are they who shall come forth in the resurrection of the just.
66These are they who are come unto Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly place, the holiest of all.
67These are they who have come to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of Enoch, and of the Firstborn.
68These are they whose names are written in heaven, where God and Christ are the judge of all.
69These are they who are just men made perfect through Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, who wrought out this perfect atonement through the shedding of his own blood.
70These are they whose bodies are celestial, whose glory is that of the sun, even the glory of God, the highest of all, whose glory the sun of the firmament is written of as being typical.
Hebrew 12: 23To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
John is a ministering angel .
D&C7: 5I say unto thee, Peter, this was a good desire; but my beloved has desired that he might do more, or a greater work yet among men than what he has before done.
6Yea, he has undertaken a greater work; therefore I will make him as flaming fire and a ministering angel; he shall minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation who dwell on the earth.
7And I will make thee to minister for him and for thy brother James; and unto you three I will give this power and the keys of this ministry until I come.
ministering angel is a resurrected being like Jesus Christ .
But a spirit of just man made perfect are not yet resurrected.
And both they inherit the same glory of the sun.
D&C 129: There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones-
2For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
3Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory.
Psalm 104: 4Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
Hebrew 1: 7And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Not weird...I feel lazy too.
@@derrickcox7761 Not “Lazy.” …Overwhelming. But thanks anyways.
Legit!
our career feel ruined 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
0:24 "regardless of the kingdom for which they may qualify" well up until 1978, black people didn't qualify for the celestial kingdom due to their color of skin :(
baptism is the gate to the celestial kingdom. africans were never denied the ability to be baptized. the priesthood ban is terrible, but your statement is incorrect
@@josephkennaley6845without temple ordinances a person cannot be exalted according to LDS doctrine, so black people could not be exalted like white people. That was doctrine preached over a hundred years and you know that so stop gaslighting like the leaders do and accept the fact that it was so, it’s not now but it was then.
Looks like you have already lived for a long long time
Stop with the baby voice. Everyone knows infantilization is used to manipulate and control. He really really likes being the “leader”.
We got our own planets, then we didn't. Now we do again?
The doctrine is constantly changing…
@@joshuawatson1902it's really not though
So where are the references to exalted beings taking part in the creation of our present creation? Were there not Creations made before this one? Were there not other mortals exalted in those Creations of the past?
Where are they now and what are they doing exactly?
Not very enticing when we have no previous examples to compare with. Therefore, I must conclude that the LDS leaders are not well informed on this subject!
In a way, you’re right. They would readily admit that there are many details that have not been revealed.
In terms of the present creation, the basics of it are found in the Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine and Covenants-modern revelation from new prophets.
Interestingly, we’re starting to see Bible scholar apologists of other Christian denominations move more in the direction of recognizing other divine beings that have existed alongside the Supreme Being. The difference is that the LDS didn’t adopt some extra-biblical, metaphysical assumptions (primarily from Greek intellectuals) that mainstream Christians have, after the First Century.
Everybody wants to rule the world, or a world.
Don't generalize. I have no desire at all.
Presiding over is very different than ruling. Ruling is based on a desire for power, control, and self-fulfillment - is ego-centric & telestial & fallen in nature. Presiding over is based on a foundation of love and service, and desiring to lift others - it’s never ego-centric. God presides over us with a pure love; His only desire is for our growth & joy. Any of this is received thru our growing in this same kind of love - receiving His love for us, letting Him transform us & increase our capacity to love. It’s something none of us has the pwr to do on our own… and are never capable of receiving if even a part of us is motivated by a desire to rule, control, or lift ourselves up.
To those of you who think “presiding over” means “ruling.”
Presiding over is very different than ruling. Ruling is based on a desire for power, control, and self-fulfillment - is ego-centric & telestial & fallen in nature. Presiding over is based on a foundation of love and service, and desiring to lift others - it’s never ego-centric. God presides over us with a pure love; His only desire is for our growth & joy. Any of this is received thru our growing in this same kind of love - receiving His love for us, letting Him transform us & increase our capacity to love. It’s something none of us has the pwr to do on our own… and are never capable of receiving if even a part of us is motivated by a desire to rule, control, or lift ourselves up.
Hard to believe I used to believe this stuff !
And yet here you are. Forever chasing, looking, wondering checking up on, inquiring, questioning what is the LDS faith up to? What are they saying? What's happening? What are they teaching? Etc etc. And this is how it will be for you....ever wondering, never being able to let it go...never being able to let it go....
We are warned to "beware of false prophets and false teachings"... THIS IS ONE OF THEM!
Jesus Said..”To Beware of Pride.” It is a sin..Folks. 😊❤
Is Nelson greater than Jesus or Enoch or Abel .
or any member of the church is greater than Jesus or Enoch or Abel ? Jesus said that I did not come so that they would serve me.
Satan who wants to rule worlds and rule kingdoms.
Jesus said the princes of this telestial world exercise dominion over the apostles who are chosen by jesus .
Which means that those who are telestial are those who seek to rule and govern those who are celestial for the celestial will serve as the apostles those who are telestial and do not seek to be a ruler or governor look to Ammon in the Book of Mormon he was sent to minister as a servant not as a king .
Mathieu 20: 25But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
28Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
The prophet Joseph smith taught that the ministering angels are those who are like Jesus and like Enoch and like Abel because Jesus he was a ministering spirit before he was resurrected and became a ministering angel after his resurrection.
TPJS 191: Angels and Ministering Spirits
He explained the difference between an angel and a ministering spirit; the one a resurrected or translated body, with its spirit ministering to embodied spirits-the other a disembodied spirit, visiting and ministering to disembodied spirits. Jesus Christ became a ministering spirit (while His body was lying in the sepulchre) to the spirits in prison, to fulfill an important part of His mission, without which He could not have perfected His work, or entered into His rest. After His resurrection He appeared as an angel to His disciples…. Jesus Christ went in body after His resurrection, to minister to resurrected bodies.
Abel also is ministering angel: TPJS 169: And, again, “By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and by it he being dead, yet speaketh.” (Hebrews 11:4.) How doth he yet speak? Why he magnified the Priesthood which was conferred upon him, and died a righteous man, and therefore has become an angel of God by receiving his body from the dead, holding still the keys of his dispensation; and was sent down from heaven unto Paul to [minister] consoling words, and to commit unto him a knowledge of the mysteries of godliness.
And here again Enoch also is a ministering angel a servant to the telestial.
TPJS 170: Now this Enoch God reserved unto Himself, that he should not die at that time, and appointed unto him a ministry unto terrestrial bodies, of whom there has been but little revealed. He is reserved also unto the presidency of a dispensation, and more shall be said of him and terrestrial bodies in another treatise. His is a ministering angel, to minister to those who shall be heirs of salvation, and appeared unto Jude as Abel did unto Paul; therefore Jude spoke of him (14, 15 verses).
Here the prophet Joseph smith saying that when jesus appeared to his disciples with his resurrected body he appeared as a man made perfect and made ministering servants to them to seal them with power.
TPJS 325: Spirits can only be revealed in flaming fire and glory. Angels have advanced further, their light and glory being tabernacled; and hence they appear in bodily shape. [The spirits of just men are made ministering servants to those who are sealed unto life eternal], and it is through them that the sealing power comes down. Patriarch Adams is now one of the spirits of the just men made perfect; and, if revealed now, must be revealed in fire; and the glory could not be endured. Jesus showed Himself to His disciples, and they thought it was His spirit, and they were afraid to approach His spirit. Angels have advanced higher in knowledge and power than spirits.
These are they who are just men made perfect and are also ministering angels for The spirits of just men are made ministering servants to those who are sealed unto life eternal, and it is through them that the sealing power comes down. :
D&C 76:…this is the testimony of the gospel of Christ concerning them who shall come forth in the resurrection of the just. 53And who overcome by faith, and are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, which the Father sheds forth upon all those who are just and true.
54They are they who are the church of the Firstborn.
55They are they into whose hands the Father has given all things-
56They are they who are priests and kings, who have received of his fulness, and of his glory;
57And are priests of the Most High, after the order of Melchizedek, which was after the order of Enoch, which was after the order of the Only Begotten Son.
58Wherefore, as it is written, they are gods, even the sons of God-
59Wherefore, all things are theirs, whether life or death, or things present, or things to come, all are theirs and they are Christ’s, and Christ is God’s.
60And they shall overcome all things.
61Wherefore, let no man glory in man, but rather let him glory in God, who shall subdue all enemies under his feet.
62These shall dwell in the presence of God and his Christ forever and ever.
63These are they whom he shall bring with him, when he shall come in the clouds of heaven to reign on the earth over his people.
64These are they who shall have part in the first resurrection.
65These are they who shall come forth in the resurrection of the just.
66These are they who are come unto Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly place, the holiest of all.
67These are they who have come to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of Enoch, and of the Firstborn.
68These are they whose names are written in heaven, where God and Christ are the judge of all.
69These are they who are just men made perfect through Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, who wrought out this perfect atonement through the shedding of his own blood.
70These are they whose bodies are celestial, whose glory is that of the sun, even the glory of God, the highest of all, whose glory the sun of the firmament is written of as being typical.
Hebrew 12: 23To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
John is a ministering angel .
D&C7: 5I say unto thee, Peter, this was a good desire; but my beloved has desired that he might do more, or a greater work yet among men than what he has before done.
6Yea, he has undertaken a greater work; therefore I will make him as flaming fire and a ministering angel; he shall minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation who dwell on the earth.
7And I will make thee to minister for him and for thy brother James; and unto you three I will give this power and the keys of this ministry until I come.
ministering angel is a resurrected being like Jesus Christ .
But a spirit of just man made perfect are not yet resurrected.
And both they inherit the same glory of the sun.
D&C 129: There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones-
2For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
3Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory.
Psalm 104: 4Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
Hebrew 1: 7And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Worlds? Nowhere in the scriptures does it say the above, no one knows what takes place when believers of Christ die. There is only one thing for sure that we do know and that is stated in the bible, that we will be with our Savior for all eternity. It is very important that doctrine matches the word of God, especially since God is the author, be aware of man-made doctrine.
“He that overcometh **shall inherit all things;** and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.”
-Revelation 21:7
ALL things. Worlds are things.
Psalm 82:6 The concept of eternal life is mentioned in various passages throughout the Bible. Here are a few examples:
John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 10:28: "And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand."
Romans 6:23: "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
1 John 5:11: "And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son."
Isaiah 45:17 17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
@@aprilpark7223 Of course those who believe in Jesus Christ will have eternal life, but it says nothing about worlds and kingdoms in the bible, there is one Kingdom of God and that is it and that is biblical!
@@hollayevladimiroff131 Isaiah 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
@@hollayevladimiroff131I guarantee your church teaches things that can’t be found in the Bible. Tell us what church you belong to and we will show you all of your churches teachings aren’t in the Bible.
He is literally saying if you jump through all the hoops given to you by the LDS church (nowhere else), then you will become a god…There’s a term in psychology to describe people who want to become gods.
The grand poobah of the loyal order of the buffalo 😂
Fake as a three dollar bill. I would not leave this man alone with my pet rock.
Well, lots of people left them alone with their open hearts during surgery and he saved their lives. He also developed novel heart surgery procedures that have saved many lives. He also has lived a very generous and moral life.
@@ItsSnagret he’s also one of the biggest frauds en in history, makes no difference what he brags about. He’s an absolute blasphemous fool. H3 couldn5 pay me a a billion dollars a millisecond to be a Mormon.
@ItsSnagret then so much better than Joseph Smith did.
As he was a con man excommunicated from 2 different churches.
Your whole religion is based on the lies of Joseph Smith: NOT Jesus and the Authentic Apostles.
He’s talking out of his ass he has no idea what happens after we die and he has never spoken to God or Jesus Christ and never will.
How do you know? Did you speak with God to find out?
I agree. I don’t think he knows what awaits us any more than Joe Biden knows what he had for lunch yesterday.
@@OmahaAreaLoya Oh crap am I ever in trouble. I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday either.🤣 Have a nice day.
@@icecreamladydriver1606 frankly I can’t either. But I also don’t claim to be a prophet, seer, and revelator. 🙃
He is simply a deluded old fool, when you die, your brain cells die and your journey through life is over. There's no alternative reality where you're going to live forever, religion is all b******* created by human beings to give themselves psychological comfort and to allow con men like Mormon general authorities to swindle people out of their money
such a false religion
The last thing I want is to be a God, presiding over other people. Smith must have been the most self-centered narcissist to have come up with this philosophy.
I don't like being in the company of men who desire this for themselves.
Heaven is going to be a place where we work. and I think that we are going to be able to go from planet to planet, and from one part of the universe to the other, and I think we're going to be able to go as fast as thought.
I think we're going to have other worlds to conquer. we're going to have tremendous enterprises that we are going to do on other planets. there are many indications in the Bible about this.
Billy Graham on the Tonight Show
Do they pay this false prophet?
Legit hog wash
it sounds nice. too bad he's lied so frequently.