The way I’ve always interpreted it, Sonic’s planet is just Earth but with some alterations. Such as some of the continents having different shapes, and countries and world governments also having different names. And as you mentioned, the recent Tails Tube clarifies that the larger continents are largely inhabited by humans but the islands surrounding the continents are largely populated by Sonic, his friends, and others like them. Even the moon orbiting the planet looks almost exactly like our own. (Not counting the large crater caused by Eggman.)
There actually had been a time period where two worlds were considered to be on the same planet: the Age of Exploration/Colonial Age. When you think about it, the human world and animal world are Sonic’s equivalent of the Old World and New World.
Even if Sega still stands on its rules, it will forever be Mobius to me since it's much more original name that mediocre Earth. It would've been actually quite interesting if the humans called the planet "Earth" and claimed themselves as "Earthlings" while animals call it "Mobius" and "Mobians"(though I'm in the same minority of preferring Mobius and Earth being two separate similar distant plantets)
5:15 The first time we see an animated Sonic talk about his planet is Adventures. "Mobius" is used in all the DiC cartoons, all the time, almost every other episode in AOSTH and Underground. The currency in those shows, "mobiums", also derives its name from the planet. 10:58 There's a little bit of setup beforehand, during and after the Adventure arc. Mobius being future Earth is actually and unused idea from SatAM, and the ruins in the OVA make me wonder if they were gonna go that route, too.
Thank you for sharing, tbh I had a really hard time finding info about the planet in the earlier Sonic shows and it's been literally over a decade since I really gave them a watch so I honestly couldn't remember. I checked out two episodes of SatAM to see if I could find anything and I couldn't so I called it there lol.
@@FantasticSamtastic "Mobius" is also the planet's name in Sonic Satam. In Season 1 Episode 6 (Sonic Racer),Snively and Robotnik decide to host a speed contest(and of course,it's trap for Sonic). And if you skip to around 6 minutes and 23 seconds. When Sonic is reading a paper about details for the contest,Sonic says: "Speed Contest. To determine the fastest on Mobius".
Yeah I should have mentioned it, I focused a lot on the western release and I thought I mentioned that in Japan it was Earth but I just said it in English. Whoopsie!
I just can’t think of Sonic’s world as earth. It just never seemed like earth to me and there’s no earth locations such as New York City or China or something…it’s still Mobuis to me…
It is Earth (in the games). Sure, in Archie it's Mobius (technically Earth), but that is a different continuity. But I do think that Mobius being Earth was genius. It had set-up and was just done so well.
@@FantasticSamtasticI say that because of how well it was set-up. The people in Station Square calling themselves "humans" was not just to tie it into SA1, but they really were different from overlanders. The "Days of Fury" are explained to be the event that wiped out humanity, which is a good explanation.
@FantasticSamtastic That Sonic fan in that 'Sonic Boom' episode is not a nod to Chris Chan. The writer confirmed on Twitter that he had never even heard of Chris.
7:22-7:46 Oh so _that's_ the reason for the weird time crash mumbo-jumbo I've heard about. I was wondering how that could happen when it's just two different planets in the same universe, but apparently it's not. Good to know that it wasn't just the american canon that had "Sonic's planet" and Earth be the same place (I'm looking at you, Archie Sonic). Turns out Japan was having ideas that were just as crazy.
In the Japanese version of SA2, Maria doesn’t actually refer to the planet as earth. She refers to it as “that planet” but at some point in development that wasn’t the case as cut lines of dialogue from Maria referring to the planet as Earth. Seems to me like the Japanese branch doesn’t necessarily want the planet to be earth in specific but sort of an offshoot of Earth which I guess makes some sense
Unproduced ideas for what would have been a season 3 of SatAM included the idea that the show's version of Mobius was Earth in the distant future, after what was left of humanity had departed to space. It would have been revealed that Robotnik and Snively were humans from a space colony who ended up on the planet after a failed overthrow of their society, and decided to take over the planet of animals they deemed 'inferior'. I have to wonder if this unused idea is where Karl Bollers got the idea for Mobius's history in the Archie comic, since he wasn't averse to using other unrealized ideas from SatAM in the comic during his time writing it (such as the roles of Naugus and Nate Morgan)
Tbh that just seems like a grammar error made by the localization team. Because it's a name and therefore a proper noun, all celestial bodies have their first letter capitalized.
When referring to Sonic's World Planet, I say Mobius. Whenever I am referring to Sonic Anthro Animals, I say Mobians. Not trying to be mean, It is just how I view Sonic in any Media. You don't have to call it Mobius, be careful with the planet's name if you are working for the official Sonic games as of 2024 since SEGA chooses Sonic's World and nothing else.
the manuals of Spinball do give different explanations. In the US Manual, it says they’re on the planet Mobius. However, in the JP manual they say that Sonic, Tails, and Eggman travel to the Planet Mobius. Although this isn’t referenced in the Encyclo-speed-ia or Origins
I will just say Planet Freedom/Mobius are the same world Green Hill the island in SA2 is like a Trans-Dimensional link for the Worlds And the Islands are all Links too
The way I’ve always interpreted it, Sonic’s planet is just Earth but with some alterations. Such as some of the continents having different shapes, and countries and world governments also having different names. And as you mentioned, the recent Tails Tube clarifies that the larger continents are largely inhabited by humans but the islands surrounding the continents are largely populated by Sonic, his friends, and others like them. Even the moon orbiting the planet looks almost exactly like our own. (Not counting the large crater caused by Eggman.)
Yeah honestly it's probably the best way to look at it
There actually had been a time period where two worlds were considered to be on the same planet: the Age of Exploration/Colonial Age. When you think about it, the human world and animal world are Sonic’s equivalent of the Old World and New World.
this is canon, tailstube confirmed it
Even if Sega still stands on its rules, it will forever be Mobius to me since it's much more original name that mediocre Earth. It would've been actually quite interesting if the humans called the planet "Earth" and claimed themselves as "Earthlings" while animals call it "Mobius" and "Mobians"(though I'm in the same minority of preferring Mobius and Earth being two separate similar distant plantets)
I'm with you on that, I think that would be interesting
If you want to count the Movie Novelization of Sonic 2, then Knuckles does say Sonic is from “Mobius”
TIL that there is a novelization of Sonic 2
@@FantasticSamtastic What does "TIL" stand for?
@@Optimegatrongodzilla today I lesrned
@@FantasticSamtastic Oh. Thanks.
5:15 The first time we see an animated Sonic talk about his planet is Adventures. "Mobius" is used in all the DiC cartoons, all the time, almost every other episode in AOSTH and Underground. The currency in those shows, "mobiums", also derives its name from the planet.
10:58 There's a little bit of setup beforehand, during and after the Adventure arc. Mobius being future Earth is actually and unused idea from SatAM, and the ruins in the OVA make me wonder if they were gonna go that route, too.
Thank you for sharing, tbh I had a really hard time finding info about the planet in the earlier Sonic shows and it's been literally over a decade since I really gave them a watch so I honestly couldn't remember. I checked out two episodes of SatAM to see if I could find anything and I couldn't so I called it there lol.
@@FantasticSamtastic "Mobius" is also the planet's name in Sonic Satam. In Season 1 Episode 6 (Sonic Racer),Snively and Robotnik decide to host a speed contest(and of course,it's trap for Sonic). And if you skip to around 6 minutes and 23 seconds. When Sonic is reading a paper about details for the contest,Sonic says: "Speed Contest. To determine the fastest on Mobius".
@@Brawlsonic18VA_andDubs where were you when I was editing 😜
It’s called “Earth” in the JP manual of CD
Yeah I should have mentioned it, I focused a lot on the western release and I thought I mentioned that in Japan it was Earth but I just said it in English. Whoopsie!
The IDW comics are in the same continuity as the games so the planet's name is still named Earth.
It always boils down to Earth one way or another
I just can’t think of Sonic’s world as earth. It just never seemed like earth to me and there’s no earth locations such as New York City or China or something…it’s still Mobuis to me…
that's kinda how I feel
@@FantasticSamtastic exactly!
It is Earth (in the games). Sure, in Archie it's Mobius (technically Earth), but that is a different continuity. But I do think that Mobius being Earth was genius. It had set-up and was just done so well.
Genius isn't the word I'd use but it is interesting
@@FantasticSamtasticI say that because of how well it was set-up. The people in Station Square calling themselves "humans" was not just to tie it into SA1, but they really were different from overlanders. The "Days of Fury" are explained to be the event that wiped out humanity, which is a good explanation.
@FantasticSamtastic
That Sonic fan in that 'Sonic Boom' episode is not a nod to Chris Chan. The writer confirmed on Twitter that he had never even heard of Chris.
Long live Mobius!
Heck yeah!
I always assumed it was just their version of Earth
Often it's the simplest solution lol
It is now called earth according to to Sonic Prime and SEGA did say prime is canon
Yeah I think for the last while it's been earth
7:22-7:46 Oh so _that's_ the reason for the weird time crash mumbo-jumbo I've heard about. I was wondering how that could happen when it's just two different planets in the same universe, but apparently it's not. Good to know that it wasn't just the american canon that had "Sonic's planet" and Earth be the same place (I'm looking at you, Archie Sonic). Turns out Japan was having ideas that were just as crazy.
In the Japanese version of SA2, Maria doesn’t actually refer to the planet as earth. She refers to it as “that planet” but at some point in development that wasn’t the case as cut lines of dialogue from Maria referring to the planet as Earth. Seems to me like the Japanese branch doesn’t necessarily want the planet to be earth in specific but sort of an offshoot of Earth which I guess makes some sense
Unproduced ideas for what would have been a season 3 of SatAM included the idea that the show's version of Mobius was Earth in the distant future, after what was left of humanity had departed to space. It would have been revealed that Robotnik and Snively were humans from a space colony who ended up on the planet after a failed overthrow of their society, and decided to take over the planet of animals they deemed 'inferior'.
I have to wonder if this unused idea is where Karl Bollers got the idea for Mobius's history in the Archie comic, since he wasn't averse to using other unrealized ideas from SatAM in the comic during his time writing it (such as the roles of Naugus and Nate Morgan)
Sa2 has Earth in lowercase, which is different from "earth".
Tbh that just seems like a grammar error made by the localization team. Because it's a name and therefore a proper noun, all celestial bodies have their first letter capitalized.
When referring to Sonic's World Planet, I say Mobius.
Whenever I am referring to Sonic Anthro Animals, I say Mobians.
Not trying to be mean, It is just how I view Sonic in any Media. You don't have to call it Mobius, be careful with the planet's name if you are working for the official Sonic games as of 2024 since SEGA chooses Sonic's World and nothing else.
I think robotnik mentions mobius a couple of times in adventures of sonic the hedgehog.
I just couldn't find it when I checked. But, I didn't feel like bringing a series for that so that's on me lol
He does
"Today Mobius, tomorrow... THE UNIVERSE!"
Sonic spinball is confirmed to be canon, and the steam page of spinball refers to it as mobius
the manuals of Spinball do give different explanations. In the US Manual, it says they’re on the planet Mobius. However, in the JP manual they say that Sonic, Tails, and Eggman travel to the Planet Mobius. Although this isn’t referenced in the Encyclo-speed-ia or Origins
@@joeker5208 imo something like X happened that merged the 2
@@chaphidoesstuff most likely. Just thought it was very interesting what the JP manual says, especially since I never see anyone talk about
ngl I forgot Sonic Spinball existed lol
@@FantasticSamtastic hahahaaaa
I will just say Planet Freedom/Mobius are the same world
Green Hill the island in SA2 is like a Trans-Dimensional link for the Worlds
And the Islands are all Links too
There is only one world.
I think that it’s just one planet and it in two different types of people live on different parts of the planet
Earth
It's Earth
Yup lol
Sonic's World is Earth. -_-
that's what it boils down to lol
Sonic's world is called Mobius.
Not anymore