As he explicitly mentioned, they also did this to pixiv (which caved and added new rules) and DLsite (which is no longer able to accept payment from Visa/MasterCard/Amex)...
Reminds me of the stuff that happened in Greece and other small European Countries that relied heavily on the EU monitory system after the GFC in 2009 and 2010. The countries governments asked for their people to vote on measures that were gonna be seriously bad for the people, the people rejected it but the govs of those countries then resorted to those measures anyway.
Remember, friends: A theief wants to steal your money. A business wants to get you to spend your money. An idealogue wants to control HOW you spend your money.
These payment processors trying for enforce some kind of perceived Western sensibility will have to break at some point. If I were any foreign market watching this stuff happen I would be really nervous to use visa or master card services in my country. American global financial influence is starting to wane, look at what is happening with the petrol-dollar, and moves like this will make foreign markets start to take notice.
I believe all this stuff is some kind of diversion. It's very intensified after some country invasion in 2022. It can't be coincidence. All woke agenda, and all this cases must be in national security agency investigation list.
They all need to stop using American services and either use their own (they do exist), or create an alternative payment platform. The west's holier than thou attitude, while it has a much more violent, much more anti-women culture, is disgusting and needs to be stopped.
Credit card companies are run by tiny hats. Onlyfans is owned by tiny hats. Hollywood is owned by tiny hats. They're working together to try to prevent competition from Japan in markets they want to monopolize. It's how they've always acted.
People need to start filing class action lawsuits against these particular credit card companies, payment processors, banks and financial institutions. Visa, Mastercard, Blackrock, Vanguard and the like need to be charged for crimes against humanity in my honest opinion.
We need another global payment service - or something like bitcoin, just more stable, to make easy payments. And so services like Visa can't just cancel websites.
And every American financial company does it. Look at PayPal two years ago, changing their services to say something like "If we find online content/opinions we disagree with, we reserve the right to shut down your account". They lost MILLIONS of users because of that, including myself. We all need to stand up against these censorial companies, or we'll have no free speech left, unless it aligns with the extreme left-wing (and yep, that's who many of these companies are run by).
I love that you always put a pic of Roxy on these videos that have nothing to do with Mushoku Tensei haha. I find it so difficult to pick between her & Eris.
UA-cam still gets to have culture content on their site, while others are strong armed to convert. Try to look into your own house before going after others.
Jesus Christ has told the Pharisees to take the wooden beam out of their own eye to see more clearly the mote that is in their brother's eye. Matthew 7:5, "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
What I wonder is.. what do credit card companies have to gain in this? They don't occupy some moral high ground, all they want is more money. How does this make them money?
By avoiding getting enormous fines from governments that want to punish them (a fancy way of saying steal from them) on trumped up charges of aiding and abetting CP or sex trafficking or whatever other charges they can throw at them
And you don't really want to be known as the shady payment processor as then listing you would bring to customer minds associations with shady stuff. I agree though that there should be neutrality laws just like we need for isps, they are providing a basic need at this point
Companies have the right to refuse to do business with anyone they want for any reason. And we consumers have the right to refuse to use them as well. And there is some precedent. Payment processors/banks/etc have been charged with essentially aiding and abetting criminal operations before. They don't want to be seen as associating in any way with CP for instance. Now obviously this isn't CP but they don't want even the slightest possibility of being associated with it. And can you blame them given current political climates globally? So basically, if you like consuming paid adult content, you had better get yourself some crypto wallets. That's already becoming the only way to pay for such content. Or just pirate it. Distribution problems are often quite easily solved with piracy.
@@wingracer1614 For now, the best idea for adult website monetary compensation is to adopt a Silk Road Marketplace-type payment system... a system in which all transactions are made with cryptocurrency. Here's how the Silk Road Payment System worked: 1. Buyer went to a Bitcoin exchanger to exchange their legal tender currency for Bitcoin (BTC). 2. Buyer put the BTC in their Silk Road Wallet. 3. The payment was made. 4. The BTC was held in escrow until the order was finalized. 5. The Silk Road Marketplace took its cut of the buyer's BTC payment. 6. The rest of the BTC was handed to the vendor. 7. The vendor removed the BTC from their Silk Road Wallet. 8. Vendor went to a BTC exchanger to exchange their BTC for legal tender currency such as dollars. By the way, the Silk Road Marketplace was seized by the U.S. federal government for selling illegal drugs; and its owner, Ross Ulbricht, is now rotting in federal prison for the rest of his life. This is because the federal government considers him to be a drug kingpin.
Here's the weird thing about the Niconico situation: Niconico IS NOT an adult website! Do the credit card company executives think that ALL anime is hentai?!?!
@@im7254 I see three possible reasons why the credit card companies came down so hard on Niconico in spite of it not being an adult site: 1. Hollywood put the pressure on those companies to go after ALL Japanese entertainment companies; because Hollywood can't compete with Japanese entertainment; so they want the credit card companies to DESTROY Japanese entertainment; 2. Some troll armed with a botnet has embarked on a mass-flagging campaign against Niconico, FALSELY claiming that that video-sharing site harbors CP; or 3. The credit card companies' executives think that all anime is hentai (this is FAR from the truth). Here's how a troll with a botnet can single-handedly do a mass-flagging campaign: he can instruct all of the zombie PCs in his botnet to create bot accounts on some social media site such as Twitter, and then he can instruct ALL of the zombies in his botnet to simultaneously send reports of "wrongdoing" to some third party, such as to credit card companies. In this particular instance, maybe this troll used a special type of malware to infect tens of thousands of PCs; then this malware co-opted all those PCs into joining the troll's command-and-control chatroom; then he instructed all those zombies to create bot accounts on Twitter; and then he instructed all those zombies to simultaneously send false reports to the credit card companies about Niconico's supposed "bad behavior". *Botnet:* A group of computers which have been infected by malware and have come under the control of a bad actor. *Zombie:* A malware-infected computer that has been co-opted into a botnet without the owner's knowledge or approval.
Honestly, I really think these websites should start accepting crypto. At least, crypto tied to real currency like USDC or something. If crypto has ever had a use, it's definitely for some shit like this.
It's straight up overreaching censorship in my opinion. And recent years are also leading me to believe that in a lot of cases it's not so much the companies themselves - it's the people running them. They can't grow up/get replaced soon enough
Just wish we as customer also had good more known alternatives to say nope we won't use VISA or Mastercard if you censor how we want to spend our money. And no I don't mean crypto as I'm not going to invest in a volatile wild west currency system.
@@wingracer1614 If the person you're replying to does, indeed, own any shares of Visa stock, then they need to sell them all off! If I owned any shares of Visa stock, then I WOULD sell off ALL of those shares; as I don't want to be associated with Visa in ANY way, shape, or form!
It would just be another random rules from people in control. Crypto is slogan for malicious scams that only pretend to be like bitcoin. Volatility isn't that relevant as it's just means of transfer. even cash app can convert usd to btc, pay instantly via ln, and merchant can instantly convert back to usd.
Western people need to go to their banks and ask them give cards that not visa\mastercard or make transactions they want. Payment processors should not be involved in censorship.
Why wouldn't they be, they can pretend to be honorable by blocking the "bad actors" whether it's true or not, must be financially good to do that for some reason
I am really wondering what kind of right do those credit card companies have to prevent me from using my money where I want to use it? Especially if the so called reason is "morals" regarding inappropriate content.
They have no right to say how you use your money. You are free to use any other service you wish. They do have the right to refuse providing their service to anyone they wish for whatever reason they wish.
@@wingracer1614 And, *we* Americans have the right to draft a bill to classify credit card companies as common carriers to make this kind of bullcrap ILLEGAL, and then submit said bill to either the U.S. Senate or the U.S. House of Representatives! Yes, any American citizen CAN draft bills to then submit to the U.S. Senate or the U.S. House!
It's absurd how the US is playing world police. Can't say I'm a fan of the US as a whole as of late... Maybe the US pulling out of NATO and going full isolationism wouldn't be quite as horrible as I first thought, god knows they're doing a lot of damage right now while supposedly being allies
Yea i don't understand the point of this liked wth but temporarily my butt this shouldn't be a thing in general but it probably just dumbness with us in general
Is their head office located in the US? This is a Japanese site and the first amendment most likely doesn’t apply, I don’t even know what way it works in the US, does that company even have to abide by that? Probably not since all these companies have been doing things like this for years.
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- us customers can sue us companies for what they do overseas if you consume their services. Will anyone sue visa? Doubt it but at some point someone will sue somebody. I say crypto will render these disputes irrelevant
@@walawala-fo7ds lol, sure 🤣. Go ahead and sue the private company for violating the U.S. First Amendment rights of a Japanese Company in Japan. Amazing.
@@braxon that's not what I said. A us citizen can sue visa for interrupting services you're paying for because they don't think what you're doing with your money is moral. It doesn't matter if those services are us or overseas. In any case, crypto just proved again why visa is irrelevant
Companies have the right to refuse providing their services to anyone for any reason, except in rare circumstances like discrimination but even then, private companies can often get away with it. 1st amendment has nothing to do with it.
"Crypto" is centralized scams only pretending to be like bitcoin, and as they are created by scammers or incompetent only, they tend to have same issues as visa or just break. This is why you never see anyone intelligent talk about "crypto" as then they would know the difference. And clearly visa is much more popular and easier to access basically everyone
yeah but they already loby this on goverment make it too much regulation so no body will start same shit like em. basicly flood the jungle so only the big tree survive while other drown
Too bad they are virtually all centrally controlled by design and chances are new people will fall for whatever centrally controlled scam claiming to be decentralized they see first. If it's not bitcoin, it's safe to assume it's either a scam or just broken. Decentralization is extremely hard, incentive to lie is in trillions with virtually no risk for scammers, and the tradeoffs for it are huge.
Funny how they have a problem with anime but not porn sites.
Because onlyfools is woke working place.
good 1
Yeah I would think that they would be more aggressive with fan sit or porn... Before they cared about another country 😞
Except they have been doing this with places like pornhub and onlyfans too
As he explicitly mentioned, they also did this to pixiv (which caved and added new rules) and DLsite (which is no longer able to accept payment from Visa/MasterCard/Amex)...
Reminds me of the stuff that happened in Greece and other small European Countries that relied heavily on the EU monitory system after the GFC in 2009 and 2010.
The countries governments asked for their people to vote on measures that were gonna be seriously bad for the people, the people rejected it but the govs of those countries then resorted to those measures anyway.
Remember, friends:
A theief wants to steal your money.
A business wants to get you to spend your money.
An idealogue wants to control HOW you spend your money.
These credit card companies are sounding like post ww2 Americans when they hated Japanese made products.
These payment processors trying for enforce some kind of perceived Western sensibility will have to break at some point. If I were any foreign market watching this stuff happen I would be really nervous to use visa or master card services in my country. American global financial influence is starting to wane, look at what is happening with the petrol-dollar, and moves like this will make foreign markets start to take notice.
I believe all this stuff is some kind of diversion. It's very intensified after some country invasion in 2022. It can't be coincidence. All woke agenda, and all this cases must be in national security agency investigation list.
They all need to stop using American services and either use their own (they do exist), or create an alternative payment platform. The west's holier than thou attitude, while it has a much more violent, much more anti-women culture, is disgusting and needs to be stopped.
Niconico is basically saying, you want to blackmail me? Well, we can both feel the pain together. See who bows first.
Most of the time porn site will just open other channels like Bitcoin
And yet for 2024 visa mastercard and discover are all acceptable on only fans. To nico nico dont give in to corporate crap
Credit card companies are run by tiny hats. Onlyfans is owned by tiny hats. Hollywood is owned by tiny hats. They're working together to try to prevent competition from Japan in markets they want to monopolize. It's how they've always acted.
People need to start filing class action lawsuits against these particular credit card companies, payment processors, banks and financial institutions. Visa, Mastercard, Blackrock, Vanguard and the like need to be charged for crimes against humanity in my honest opinion.
We need another global payment service - or something like bitcoin, just more stable, to make easy payments. And so services like Visa can't just cancel websites.
And every American financial company does it. Look at PayPal two years ago, changing their services to say something like "If we find online content/opinions we disagree with, we reserve the right to shut down your account". They lost MILLIONS of users because of that, including myself. We all need to stand up against these censorial companies, or we'll have no free speech left, unless it aligns with the extreme left-wing (and yep, that's who many of these companies are run by).
I love that you always put a pic of Roxy on these videos that have nothing to do with Mushoku Tensei haha. I find it so difficult to pick between her & Eris.
Sylphie is the best one. Didn't gaslight or accidentally traumatise (Eris didn't mean to cause that impression but it's how things ended up).
Hayao Miyazaki's hate for America was absurd but America itself proves him right
You got proof he hated America? Or you just talking out your ass?
@@DT-bo1zk Were not fans of this either.
Us in the gun community have been dealing with this shit for years. I loathe how “””justice””” focused modern western society is.
And the same tiny hat people are behind it in both cases. They want to control all the media. It terrifies them when gentiles own weapons.
Go NikoNiko!
Visa is one of those card companies that is most known that Put up rules that most Relators hate and so the don't accept them.
UA-cam still gets to have culture content on their site, while others are strong armed to convert. Try to look into your own house before going after others.
Jesus Christ has told the Pharisees to take the wooden beam out of their own eye to see more clearly the mote that is in their brother's eye.
Matthew 7:5, "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
What I wonder is.. what do credit card companies have to gain in this?
They don't occupy some moral high ground, all they want is more money. How does this make them money?
By avoiding getting enormous fines from governments that want to punish them (a fancy way of saying steal from them) on trumped up charges of aiding and abetting CP or sex trafficking or whatever other charges they can throw at them
They get an esg score / social credit score like anything else. And if they've taken up stock in that, that would be another potential motivator.
And you don't really want to be known as the shady payment processor as then listing you would bring to customer minds associations with shady stuff. I agree though that there should be neutrality laws just like we need for isps, they are providing a basic need at this point
Good job NicoNico
This is simple abuse of market dominance. Japan should fine VISA for that similar to EU is doing this with other market dominant companies.
Region locking might be the only way to save Japan's online culture.
But American credit cards companies have no right in this.
Companies have the right to refuse to do business with anyone they want for any reason. And we consumers have the right to refuse to use them as well.
And there is some precedent. Payment processors/banks/etc have been charged with essentially aiding and abetting criminal operations before. They don't want to be seen as associating in any way with CP for instance. Now obviously this isn't CP but they don't want even the slightest possibility of being associated with it. And can you blame them given current political climates globally?
So basically, if you like consuming paid adult content, you had better get yourself some crypto wallets. That's already becoming the only way to pay for such content. Or just pirate it. Distribution problems are often quite easily solved with piracy.
@@wingracer1614 For now, the best idea for adult website monetary compensation is to adopt a Silk Road Marketplace-type payment system... a system in which all transactions are made with cryptocurrency. Here's how the Silk Road Payment System worked:
1. Buyer went to a Bitcoin exchanger to exchange their legal tender currency for Bitcoin (BTC).
2. Buyer put the BTC in their Silk Road Wallet.
3. The payment was made.
4. The BTC was held in escrow until the order was finalized.
5. The Silk Road Marketplace took its cut of the buyer's BTC payment.
6. The rest of the BTC was handed to the vendor.
7. The vendor removed the BTC from their Silk Road Wallet.
8. Vendor went to a BTC exchanger to exchange their BTC for legal tender currency such as dollars.
By the way, the Silk Road Marketplace was seized by the U.S. federal government for selling illegal drugs; and its owner, Ross Ulbricht, is now rotting in federal prison for the rest of his life. This is because the federal government considers him to be a drug kingpin.
Here's the weird thing about the Niconico situation: Niconico IS NOT an adult website! Do the credit card company executives think that ALL anime is hentai?!?!
Should be more standard to sue visa and make them legally responsible for being neutral
@@im7254 I see three possible reasons why the credit card companies came down so hard on Niconico in spite of it not being an adult site:
1. Hollywood put the pressure on those companies to go after ALL Japanese entertainment companies; because Hollywood can't compete with Japanese entertainment; so they want the credit card companies to DESTROY Japanese entertainment;
2. Some troll armed with a botnet has embarked on a mass-flagging campaign against Niconico, FALSELY claiming that that video-sharing site harbors CP; or
3. The credit card companies' executives think that all anime is hentai (this is FAR from the truth).
Here's how a troll with a botnet can single-handedly do a mass-flagging campaign: he can instruct all of the zombie PCs in his botnet to create bot accounts on some social media site such as Twitter, and then he can instruct ALL of the zombies in his botnet to simultaneously send reports of "wrongdoing" to some third party, such as to credit card companies. In this particular instance, maybe this troll used a special type of malware to infect tens of thousands of PCs; then this malware co-opted all those PCs into joining the troll's command-and-control chatroom; then he instructed all those zombies to create bot accounts on Twitter; and then he instructed all those zombies to simultaneously send false reports to the credit card companies about Niconico's supposed "bad behavior".
*Botnet:* A group of computers which have been infected by malware and have come under the control of a bad actor.
*Zombie:* A malware-infected computer that has been co-opted into a botnet without the owner's knowledge or approval.
Honestly, I really think these websites should start accepting crypto. At least, crypto tied to real currency like USDC or something. If crypto has ever had a use, it's definitely for some shit like this.
It's straight up overreaching censorship in my opinion. And recent years are also leading me to believe that in a lot of cases it's not so much the companies themselves - it's the people running them. They can't grow up/get replaced soon enough
Just wish we as customer also had good more known alternatives to say nope we won't use VISA or Mastercard if you censor how we want to spend our money. And no I don't mean crypto as I'm not going to invest in a volatile wild west currency system.
Investing in crypto and using it to make payments are two different things. Do you own stock in Visa?
@@wingracer1614 If the person you're replying to does, indeed, own any shares of Visa stock, then they need to sell them all off! If I owned any shares of Visa stock, then I WOULD sell off ALL of those shares; as I don't want to be associated with Visa in ANY way, shape, or form!
It would just be another random rules from people in control. Crypto is slogan for malicious scams that only pretend to be like bitcoin. Volatility isn't that relevant as it's just means of transfer. even cash app can convert usd to btc, pay instantly via ln, and merchant can instantly convert back to usd.
Western people need to go to their banks and ask them give cards that not visa\mastercard or make transactions they want. Payment processors should not be involved in censorship.
You can do that. Problem is, not every place takes those other cards. Even major ones like AmEx and Discover are not accepted everywhere
Why wouldn't they be, they can pretend to be honorable by blocking the "bad actors" whether it's true or not, must be financially good to do that for some reason
@@im7254 those woke always pretend to be in right. But their censorship fails, when normal people pissed off.
I am really wondering what kind of right do those credit card companies have to prevent me from using my money where I want to use it? Especially if the so called reason is "morals" regarding inappropriate content.
They have no right to say how you use your money. You are free to use any other service you wish. They do have the right to refuse providing their service to anyone they wish for whatever reason they wish.
@@wingracer1614 And, *we* Americans have the right to draft a bill to classify credit card companies as common carriers to make this kind of bullcrap ILLEGAL, and then submit said bill to either the U.S. Senate or the U.S. House of Representatives! Yes, any American citizen CAN draft bills to then submit to the U.S. Senate or the U.S. House!
@@jeffzebert4982I'll write one up during starfield loading screens today
It's absurd how the US is playing world police. Can't say I'm a fan of the US as a whole as of late... Maybe the US pulling out of NATO and going full isolationism wouldn't be quite as horrible as I first thought, god knows they're doing a lot of damage right now while supposedly being allies
So you actually did a video. You where talking to people on the live stream yesterday.
Yea i don't understand the point of this liked wth but temporarily my butt this shouldn't be a thing in general but it probably just dumbness with us in general
Strike / lightning
We are now blocked from Nico video
Weird how actual horrible disgusting content like Cuties. Is able to stay up and CC companies are ok with Netflix and what not.
JCB
wow id be canceling my card if i used visa.
Dedolarize!
This should straight up be a crime and a violation of the 1st amendment...well whatever is left of the first ammendment I mean.
Is their head office located in the US? This is a Japanese site and the first amendment most likely doesn’t apply, I don’t even know what way it works in the US, does that company even have to abide by that? Probably not since all these companies have been doing things like this for years.
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- us customers can sue us companies for what they do overseas if you consume their services. Will anyone sue visa? Doubt it but at some point someone will sue somebody. I say crypto will render these disputes irrelevant
@@walawala-fo7ds lol, sure 🤣. Go ahead and sue the private company for violating the U.S. First Amendment rights of a Japanese Company in Japan. Amazing.
@@braxon that's not what I said. A us citizen can sue visa for interrupting services you're paying for because they don't think what you're doing with your money is moral. It doesn't matter if those services are us or overseas. In any case, crypto just proved again why visa is irrelevant
Companies have the right to refuse providing their services to anyone for any reason, except in rare circumstances like discrimination but even then, private companies can often get away with it. 1st amendment has nothing to do with it.
maybe this will be the start for normalizing crypto as a standardized pay method.
Can’t they just accept payment by bitcoin or some other crypto?
Dlsite has digital currency people can use to circumvent, not a crypto though but the more they move from these, the better
Of course they can. And also lose 90% of their paid customers.
"Crypto" is centralized scams only pretending to be like bitcoin, and as they are created by scammers or incompetent only, they tend to have same issues as visa or just break. This is why you never see anyone intelligent talk about "crypto" as then they would know the difference. And clearly visa is much more popular and easier to access basically everyone
Decentralized Digital Currencies solves this.
In theory, not in practice yet. Too many problems still to be resolved. It is getting more and more common though
yeah
but they already loby this on goverment make it too much regulation so no body will start same shit like em.
basicly flood the jungle so only the big tree survive while other drown
Too bad they are virtually all centrally controlled by design and chances are new people will fall for whatever centrally controlled scam claiming to be decentralized they see first. If it's not bitcoin, it's safe to assume it's either a scam or just broken. Decentralization is extremely hard, incentive to lie is in trillions with virtually no risk for scammers, and the tradeoffs for it are huge.