UPDATE 6/6/29 - Idol of Yogg Saron received a 35% nerf, along with our 5% main stat nerf this talent is not worth taking anymore. Take a point in Nzoth if triple dotting enemy team or deathspeaker is also a good alternative if just dotting 2. It's also good for killing totems vs rshams
Will you still take tormented spirits after the Yogg nerf? also does mindflays priority pass mind blast if you are using mind trauma? great guide man it was exactly what I was looking for!
Ive enjoyed dumping yogg/tormented and putting it into 10% mind flay damage & faster dot tick with mind flay. I'm also mainly playing shadow play so I'm usually the one to try and burst targetsgo kill, thoughts?
I've started playing shadow priest, and I must say. This guide is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Thank you for taking the time to make this guide. Really, it's greatly appreciated.
@@StahpSP I did thank you. I was wondering if you had any tips for surviving in openworld combat. I'm trying to learn how not to die when someone decides a fight is a good idea.
have been struggling to decide what to main as I am coming back to WOW after a big break, and this video helped tremendously. Earned a new sub, great video!
thanks dog, just got 4 set and weap as healing disc in 2's and swapping to shadow without playing it since cata this was a big help! appreciate the time
Thanks for such a descriptive vid, any thoughts on why a lot of the top EU spri all run dark ascension? I find the occasional void eruption but mainly DA?
after one year break I come back with shadow priest thank you for this video . two questions you always cc healer in most of the case ? 2 nd when you decide to give power infusion to your mate ? what is the best moment to cc in the cycle ? before the big burst of void torrent ?
Thanks the great Guide . Sorry if I missed this part in the guide but do you have any recommendations on how to survive better? Off healing etc, apparently SP is very tanky but I still find myself dying quickly.
Generally I combo fade + desperate prayer early in the match, always use vampiric embrace with void form, and then disperse is used if your healer is ccd and you’re stunned/ getting bursted. If I ever drop below 30% I’ll press disperse lol you’re very likely to get one shot by a lot of classes. Void shift is the last line of defense if your team has no cds left
Thanks for the guide! Did you mention stat priorities? I know it used to be haste but wondering why I don’t hear about mastery. Mastery seems pretty strong. Thanks!
Great video dude! One question: icy veins and wowhead writers (yeah the guys with wow posters) suggest versatility as last important stat but it is your second highest secondary. Why?
@@StahpSP ok understood thx. Another question does it makes sense to share dots such as plague (besides of pain and vampire touch) within the trash group for even more dmg? If yes which dots or skills? If not which is your target within the trash group (I guess that with the highest hp/strongest mob)? Thank you in advance!
I'm new to this, but I feel like mind devourer sounds pretty darn good. Procs for free casts of our bread and butter spender (which can be cast on the move), especially since it looks like we're taking screams of the void and nzoth now. Distorted reality would give it even that much more weight. Obviously 3 points is pretty darn expensive, but do you think sacrificing maybe maddening touch would be worth it?
Just came back after a year! Thanks man great video and a TON of help! Love your UI is there a way to get that exact one? Like when mindblast is up and other CDs it comes towards you thats so sick
Yo hello, is Tier set 4 bonus worth going? I checked some players are using 4 set bonuses on Solo Shuffle Ladder. Does it mean 4 set piece - more damage overall than versa/haste pieces?
I'm curious how hard the shadowy apparition hits with 4 set and phantasmal pathogen... doesnt feel like its worth taking that talent even with 4 set? Also sick guide! learnt SO much its kinda embarassing as #18 sp eu
So I tried out this build today and I did see improvements, but against double melee its still so rough... I know for sure it's a skill issue but damn. They just focus me so hard and I feel like its so hartd to focus on damage and survival.
Try to get a void form off early and rely on that for instant damage for the opener. Driven to madness definitely helps as well . I always try to move away from the enemy healer but try not to kite them right next to my healer
Yeah It's often feels like there is no cd on interrupts (agaisnt double meele, interrupt - interrupt - stun - stun - interrupt again) and only instant spells can be casted xD
@@StahpSP so I got some enchants on my gear and I’ve been using fade more often. The speed enchants have been helping a lot actually. I feel like I can get away from melee a lot easier now
What's you opinion on running 4p and what build would you play when running it. I feel like going more into apparitions and short DP could turn into something useful. Gimme your thoughts please. ❤
most sps not using 4set on TR but if i was i would do this and yeah could swap out short dp here BIQAgLWW0w0PLW4I8h9jUYB9zGECBAAAAAAAAAAAAgkmkWCNlkkkkEJBlgkkQakikgAlUCSAkA
For the haste legs do i have to keep them as the Infurious ones at pvp ilvl 424? As there are no haste embellishments? Or is there a way to upgrade infurious legs to 450 pvp ilvl?
Only question after this guide is, does catharsis trigger when applying shadow word pain through vampiric touch or does it have to be manually applied through pressing shadow word pain
I dont like "Catharsis" cause as far as I know (correct me if I wrong pls) It does not work with "Misery" and I dont even have SWpain in my action bar :D Should I bind SWpain just for the pvp talent?
does anyone has some tipos for casters at arena? 1 got 1400 at 2v2 but I'm always carryed. MY Shadow Priest simply cant take any damage, many times i got insta dead. When I try to position myself, there is always a rogue infinite stunning and comboing me, or and hunter giving me like 2 shots, ora warrior/DK that kicks and slows me, turning impomssible to run/heal/fear etc
Totems depend - if it’s tremor or grounding they are 1 hp so death will work, healing tide, healing stream, and earth grab will require a higher dmg button like catharsis or void bolt. Catharsis is also bugged and will insta kill grounding even if you use it on another target
@@StahpSP thanks bro 🙏 i appreciate it. You definitely deserve more subscribers because you work hard and you communicating with your followers. Cheers man 🙏🙏🙏
Df season 1 was all time fun but it went off the reals towards the middle-end and became unbelievably bad / un fun. The current version is better overall imo than last xpac
@@StahpSP Ty. I appreciate your videos. I just started playing SP and mostly rbg or play randoms with friends and we try to out dmg each other. Is there any situations you would drop mindgames?
Yeah I kinda have a vid on that from a dif expansion but it’s all the same. Macro pi for dps, life grip for teammates, swap, targeting binds, and cancelaura dispersion that’s basically it
UPDATE 6/6/29 - Idol of Yogg Saron received a 35% nerf, along with our 5% main stat nerf this talent is not worth taking anymore. Take a point in Nzoth if triple dotting enemy team or deathspeaker is also a good alternative if just dotting 2. It's also good for killing totems vs rshams
Will you still take tormented spirits after the Yogg nerf? also does mindflays priority pass mind blast if you are using mind trauma? great guide man it was exactly what I was looking for!
Ive enjoyed dumping yogg/tormented and putting it into 10% mind flay damage & faster dot tick with mind flay.
I'm also mainly playing shadow play so I'm usually the one to try and burst targetsgo kill, thoughts?
I’m a noob, is mindbender a good option also in this case?
@@ericmacfarlane1437 playing nzoth atm not mindbender
I've started playing shadow priest, and I must say. This guide is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Thank you for taking the time to make this guide. Really, it's greatly appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@StahpSP I did thank you. I was wondering if you had any tips for surviving in openworld combat. I'm trying to learn how not to die when someone decides a fight is a good idea.
Just got back from a 4 year hiatus. This has brought me right back to speed. Thanks man. Arena wow is so fun.
have been struggling to decide what to main as I am coming back to WOW after a big break, and this video helped tremendously. Earned a new sub, great video!
Awesome video Stahp! I really appreciate the content brotha.
Just started up pvp for the first time in years as shadow, really appreciate the guide!
hell yeah
00:00 Intro
01:12 Talents
14:23 PVP Talents
16:37 Priest Talenttree
20:12 Damage Rotation
27:53 Sample Solo Shuffle
32:20 Sample 3vs3
33:56 Positioning sample
37:37 Playstyle
38:21 Positoning sample vs casters
39:33 Positoning sample vs melee
43:55 Upcoming changes (06/27)
44:20 Outro and conclusion
stats?
finally i was waiting for this along time!!! ty
im just about to download DR after quitting at a little bit into SLs, great guide man liked and subbed
Best shadow priest guide dealer around. Gotta love this guy. Also got the feeling he wrote that mythic guide lol
Lmao I didn’t but that was Publik my good sp friend! He just updated it for this week too
34:43 "It's really easy to fake people when they live in Australia"
The deadpan delivery on this unexpected knee slapper had me dying
Thank you for making it that far 😂
Great guide!!
warning: outdated :( buff spriest
love it, I hate the yogg saron meta just bc 25 stacks feels like forever.
Insane Guide, thanks mate :)
Dude shit nooo check out the new video for the new spec lol. They had to change it up on us smh >.>
Very nice guide- figured out a lot I was doing wrong
Nice profile pic
Love u man! Thanks for this! ❤
Glad you are alive ❤
Thank you wow
I like the font style on your action bars and player frames, what addon are you using for that?
The font is Doris PP, you can manually change font by adding some folders to your wow folder
thanks dog, just got 4 set and weap as healing disc in 2's and swapping to shadow without playing it since cata this was a big help! appreciate the time
Great guile as always
Should i run 4p or 2p in solo que?
I use 4set but most sp on TR use 2 set
Thanks for such a descriptive vid, any thoughts on why a lot of the top EU spri all run dark ascension? I find the occasional void eruption but mainly DA?
check the new vid
after one year break I come back with shadow priest thank you for this video . two questions you always cc healer in most of the case ? 2 nd when you decide to give power infusion to your mate ?
what is the best moment to cc in the cycle ? before the big burst of void torrent ?
loll shitt this may be outdated, I just resubbed tho so maybe new vids soon
Thanks the great Guide . Sorry if I missed this part in the guide but do you have any recommendations on how to survive better? Off healing etc, apparently SP is very tanky but I still find myself dying quickly.
Generally I combo fade + desperate prayer early in the match, always use vampiric embrace with void form, and then disperse is used if your healer is ccd and you’re stunned/ getting bursted. If I ever drop below 30% I’ll press disperse lol you’re very likely to get one shot by a lot of classes. Void shift is the last line of defense if your team has no cds left
Thanks for the guide! Did you mention stat priorities? I know it used to be haste but wondering why I don’t hear about mastery. Mastery seems pretty strong. Thanks!
haste > verse > mastery > crit. After like 30% haste u can pick up a mastery piece or 2. Belt with int proc is good
@@StahpSP Thanks!
Ty
Great video dude! One question: icy veins and wowhead writers (yeah the guys with wow posters) suggest versatility as last important stat but it is your second highest secondary. Why?
Versatility is mandatory in PvP - you’ll die instantly without it
@@StahpSP ok understood thx. Another question does it makes sense to share dots such as plague (besides of pain and vampire touch) within the trash group for even more dmg? If yes which dots or skills? If not which is your target within the trash group (I guess that with the highest hp/strongest mob)? Thank you in advance!
I'm new to this, but I feel like mind devourer sounds pretty darn good. Procs for free casts of our bread and butter spender (which can be cast on the move), especially since it looks like we're taking screams of the void and nzoth now. Distorted reality would give it even that much more weight. Obviously 3 points is pretty darn expensive, but do you think sacrificing maybe maddening touch would be worth it?
Yeah it’s tough I thought about that too, I would maybe consider dropping shadowcrash to try and get it. Maddening touch is too good
Im a returning sp, nice guide! But i played dark ascension/mindbender instant cast build in season 1.. is it no longer viable?? 😢
Just came back after a year! Thanks man great video and a TON of help! Love your UI is there a way to get that exact one? Like when mindblast is up and other CDs it comes towards you thats so sick
Doom cooldown pulse is the addon, I also use tmw and weakauras for dif buffs. I don’t have my ui uploaded anywhere. sArena for frames
@@StahpSP great thanks for the reply! Actually going to check it out now
Yo hello, is Tier set 4 bonus worth going? I checked some players are using 4 set bonuses on Solo Shuffle Ladder. Does it mean 4 set piece - more damage overall than versa/haste pieces?
now this is epic
Beastly ty for twitch prime
hi.. how do you make the avaliable spells pop on your screen ? like on 30:21 fade just pulse there
doomcooldownpulse addon
Great vid!!! Does Insidious Ire stack with the Void Eruption or do i not need to worry about having all dots up in void form?
Always have all dots up for maximum damage
@@StahpSP awesome, thanks for the info!
You NEED to have all 3 dots for Insidious Ire to buff Mind Blast and Void Torrent by 40%. The Voidform effect only gives you the mastery bonus.
what addons do you use?
Nice guide 🖤
Thank you !
I'm curious how hard the shadowy apparition hits with 4 set and phantasmal pathogen... doesnt feel like its worth taking that talent even with 4 set? Also sick guide! learnt SO much its kinda embarassing as #18 sp eu
I think it’s ok if ur getting good value out of your 4set proc. With a proc spam mind blasts and you’ll see a difference if the target has dp up
what do you think about dropping mind games for power word life in double dps 2s
Could be fun I don’t play a lot of 2s tho
So I tried out this build today and I did see improvements, but against double melee its still so rough... I know for sure it's a skill issue but damn. They just focus me so hard and I feel like its so hartd to focus on damage and survival.
Try to get a void form off early and rely on that for instant damage for the opener. Driven to madness definitely helps as well . I always try to move away from the enemy healer but try not to kite them right next to my healer
Yeah It's often feels like there is no cd on interrupts (agaisnt double meele, interrupt - interrupt - stun - stun - interrupt again) and only instant spells can be casted xD
@@palfotta that sp for you KEKW
@@StahpSP so I got some enchants on my gear and I’ve been using fade more often. The speed enchants have been helping a lot actually. I feel like I can get away from melee a lot easier now
Nice guide but sadly it take me forever to get geared as you, 375 atm and melting
Is there going to be a new build with mind spike, since it got buff today.
What's you opinion on running 4p and what build would you play when running it. I feel like going more into apparitions and short DP could turn into something useful. Gimme your thoughts please. ❤
most sps not using 4set on TR but if i was i would do this and yeah could swap out short dp here BIQAgLWW0w0PLW4I8h9jUYB9zGECBAAAAAAAAAAAAgkmkWCNlkkkkEJBlgkkQakikgAlUCSAkA
Hey man which gear pieces do you recommend for embellishments? and which 2 would you go for? Thanks mate
Precog on boots and second is preference, tournament players use sporecloak but I like the int proc on belt or haste on legs
@StahpSP Much appreciated 🙏 great video by the way dude
For the haste legs do i have to keep them as the Infurious ones at pvp ilvl 424? As there are no haste embellishments? Or is there a way to upgrade infurious legs to 450 pvp ilvl?
Sick guide bro, but your UI has so much going on lol
staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahp
Only question after this guide is, does catharsis trigger when applying shadow word pain through vampiric touch or does it have to be manually applied through pressing shadow word pain
Has to be just swp button
@@StahpSP damn would be a lot more convenient the other way lol
Would like to ask, what would you play if you're trying double dps (2v2) with a rogue or lock?
Rogue or lock sounds good but I try to avoid 2v2 lol. Double dps isn’t great rn
I dont like "Catharsis" cause as far as I know (correct me if I wrong pls) It does not work with "Misery" and I dont even have SWpain in my action bar :D Should I bind SWpain just for the pvp talent?
Yes you need to press it separately
dude what about gear? can you show what pve and stuff we must have? like those special items with bonus effects
Precog on boots and incurious leg wraps is what I’m using. It’s crafted gear relatively easy to ge t
how to make shadowy apparition on top of damage what do i spam?
in the guide i talk about this - mind blast, void bolt, or dp on a target that has VT on it. Ppl have swapped specs check my newest video
does anyone has some tipos for casters at arena? 1 got 1400 at 2v2 but I'm always carryed. MY Shadow Priest simply cant take any damage, many times i got insta dead. When I try to position myself, there is always a rogue infinite stunning and comboing me, or and hunter giving me like 2 shots, ora warrior/DK that kicks and slows me, turning impomssible to run/heal/fear etc
2s as 2 dps for spriest is terrible. Try healer dps or 3s to learn
How are you feeling about the nerf to jerry?
Good fk npcs doing damage lol we'll find good use for those talents. I think drop tormented too
How to kill totems/banner as spriest? Thanks for the video man, amazing content.
Banner normally takes a catharsis or a mind blast + death, with death speaker death will prob one shot it
Totems depend - if it’s tremor or grounding they are 1 hp so death will work, healing tide, healing stream, and earth grab will require a higher dmg button like catharsis or void bolt. Catharsis is also bugged and will insta kill grounding even if you use it on another target
@@StahpSP thanks bro 🙏 i appreciate it. You definitely deserve more subscribers because you work hard and you communicating with your followers. Cheers man 🙏🙏🙏
@@StahpSPdelete this pls 🤌🏻
How does shadow priest feel comparing this expansion and last expansion
Df season 1 was all time fun but it went off the reals towards the middle-end and became unbelievably bad / un fun. The current version is better overall imo than last xpac
What build would you run if you wanted to max dmg in RBGs?
Prob the same tbh
@@StahpSP Ty. I appreciate your videos. I just started playing SP and mostly rbg or play randoms with friends and we try to out dmg each other. Is there any situations you would drop mindgames?
Hows shadow + resto druid in 2s?
Probably pretty good if Druid stuns a lot for you
Not sure if I missed it or not but do we use 4set or 2set
I use 4 set there’s not a huge difference, can get away with just 2 set
whats your main character so i know how to get gear
Darkvagician mal’ganis !armory in my stream will link it
can you make a vid for all your macros and addons?
Yeah I kinda have a vid on that from a dif expansion but it’s all the same. Macro pi for dps, life grip for teammates, swap, targeting binds, and cancelaura dispersion that’s basically it
Where is the import code? ty for video!!
Check my newest vid for current talents / changes
Short version: Do what Wizk does lol
Pretty much wizkdamage is my religion
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