Just wanted to say thanks for the video. I picked up a kit, and man has this been a game changer for the comfort. Install took a few minutes, payoff will be hours more in the saddle. Awesome job on explaining the process as well.
Just installed. Seems to be a better position but I haven’t been on a good ride with yet. The stock seat was good already for 2 300 mile rides but this feels like it will be better. Oh, the 3 push pins that go in tank are different from the others. Figured out when I couldn’t get one to secure. They look very similar on a shelf. Other than that I had it done in less than 30 minutes. I wasn’t in a hurry. Thanks
I hate seats that cant forward like that. in the past on bikes that don't have an option to shim, I have removed the seat cover and carefully re shaped the foam so it's flatter, then added back a new layer of memory foam on top of that. worked well and made a huge difference.
Very cool, thanks for showing the details of the install! Even if it should be easy its always great to quickly see what hurdles someone else might have come across. I'v not ridden my T9 yet as here in Denmark winter insurance is absurdly expensive, i'll test it out in a few weeks time. Sadly getting that kit imported is going to be a bit of a pain if i end up needing it.
If you had to, you could probably make your own, largely from parts sourced from the local hardware or home improvement store. Find some plastic or metal spacers and slightly longer bolts. You could likely use stacked washers to fine tune it 1mm at time... The tricky part would be making the offset rubber grommet. You could probably easily make one out of a solid piece of rubber or plastic, and then just shave it down so that it slides in there, and drill the holes to correspond to the amount of washers you added under the main mount?
I think you really do need a goofy tall screen. The ONLY screen that worked close on my 17 Tracer, and I tried lots, was the Puig touring with the deflector. Anything slightly smaller caused noise. I use a tiny screen in summer made from a cut down mra with holes drilled to match the Puig so just 4 small bolts to swap over. Great video, Imdid a similar bodge a few years ago, this is way neater. Yamaha are a bunch of..Seat and screen have been a problem since 2014. How many potential buyers are put off because of this?
Thanks a lot buddy! I`ve just ordered one to Poland. That seat position was pain in the ass. I changed it position many times with same result. I hope this will help. Regards
It does help, and is pretty easy to install. And stay safe over there... Looks like Poland might be next to be in Putin's crosshairs... What an absolute mess you all have on your hands right now... Putin seems bent on becoming Hitler 2.0
Thanks for sharing. May I ask how the quality of the kit’s parts look like ? I am bit concerned about their lasting quality. I have already ordered the kit and please share with me your impressions so far . Thank you in advance.
As other have said - thanks for the video, thanks for the idea. I ordered, and easy, easy installation. Comment... I really wish you could completely redo the whole video...with a friend holding the camera!
2:20 I had one of the 3 push pins at the front (they go into the tank) stick, when I tried to prise is out it went flying! Just be aware & have spares like I did. Phew!
Yeah, I usually pick up a box of them at Cycle Gear when I pick up crush washers, just to have them on hand. You either break one, or drop it down into the bike somewhere, pretty much every time you remove them... lol
Thanks for this! I just purchased a used Tracer 900, 2019 model. "The Goo" definitely has a slope feeling in the seat that I want to modify for longer, more comfortable rides. Your link appears to only be for '21 models. Is there a difference? I too am 6'4" and have a taller V-Stream shield. It still hits the top of my helmet and vibrates my brain! No fun that! Swapped the OE shield back in...I'll take the chest wind over the brain box beating!
Might try this without buying the kit...my thinking is simply use washer stacks in place of plastic spacer and then simply find a larger rubber grommet in place of the offset special one...I think the slop above it will be fine and if not a squirt of silicone seal into the void with overnight to harden will effectively create an offset grommet...not to cheap out but I honestly don't know if it raising the seat slightly in front is really going to help any....and spending money to accomplish nothing just irks me...maybe if I A really like the result and B am not happy with the washer stacks and oversized grommet? THEN I might buy the shim kit
Very cool video and I watched before installing. I am left with a gap between the tank and the plastic where the 3 pop rivets go and can’t seem to get rid of the gap. Any ideas ?
Thanks for the video and I'm a new subscriber. Looking hard at the Tracer 9GT to replace (maybe) my 2012 Super Tenere. 6'4" also, so looking forward to your thoughts. Lower pegs, risers and this and or, a new seat might be the ticket.
@@SquireSCA I was afraid of that. Tried the Tracer 900 GT a couple years back but no comparison to my modded Tenere comfort wise. Sat on a Tracer 9 GT last week, though better, it would need work. Search goes on for a new sports tourer for a tall lanky guy. Enjoying your insights and videos.
It improved it a bit, but in all honesty, the seat is still pretty uncomfortable on longer rides. When I am in the mtns and moving around a lot, its fine. When I go on a longer ride like I did this week, its very uncomfortable. I am not sure how long I will keep this bike. Its awesome in a lot of ways, but the thing I wanted it for was road trips, and unfortunately its not working well in that regard...
@@SquireSCA understand. I don’t know how you do it at 6’4 in the low position for the seat. I will say the air hawk and being in the upper setting is pretty solid. I didn’t really realize how I needed my butt to take pressure off of my knees. Yeah I can see how touring is not at all this bike’s strong point. I came from a super tenere and it was well suited for that. Very comfortable and tons of space and options for you to strap shit onto. But I wanted something more sporty and I can only afford one bike. So this is it for now.
@@Romenet310 I have the seat shimmed and in the high position, and the pegs in the low position... The bars also hurt my neck after about an hour... Not sure what I will migrate to. Gonna look at the Ninja 1000SX, GSX-S1000GT and the Harley Pan American...
What would be your opinion on cutting the 2 raised seat height perches at the rear of the seat height adjustment plastic component ? Then set it into the higher position so that only the front raises ?
@@SquireSCA Didn't you say that you originally had the seat in the high position but now you installed it in the low postion? The difference between those positions is more like 20mm (guessing) so you moved the seat down by 20mm then up by 8mm with the shims lifting the seat bracket. Had you left it in the high position, I agree you have lifted the front of the seat by 8mm but not if you change from the high to the low.
@@neilallwood4943 Yes, I explained why in the end, I wanted to ride in the low position if possible. I want to be more in the bike, than perched on top of it getting blasted by wind. But the forward pitch isn;t comfortable... The seat needs to be level. As I can't lower the rear, I needed to raise the front. So basically the front is now in the higher position(almost) and the rear is in the low position
@@neilallwood4943 In a nutshell, I wasn't looking to shim the seat to raise it. I wanted to raise the front, in relation to the rear, so that it sits more flat, and not so sloped down to the front.
@@SquireSCA Totally agree with your intentions, not sure you achieved it with slotting the seat into a lower position than before. The only thing that you acheived was to raise the low position of the front seat mount by 8mm which is 12mm (approx) lower than where you had originally had the seat. All that really matters is that you are happy with the result. Ride safe.
so i took a testride on one of these today, and i found a bit of a pressure point on the backside of my bottom, basically where your back meets your ass, right around the tailbone. the seat was mounted in the higher position, would you say this would more evenly distribute the pressure over the entire surface instead of focussing everything towards the back? i'm 90% sure i'm gonna get one but i do need to get this figured out and set the bike entirely to my liking, not just 95% y'know
Honestly, I never really got it sorted. The $600 Corbin seat felt a lot better, but I could never get the bar ergonomics to work with my neck, so I ended up trading the bike in on a new ZX14R, which I find way more comfortable...
No idea, I don't sell them. But to be honest, its just a piece of 3D printed plastic... once I installed it, I saw how simple it is, and you could likely just make your own shim with plastic or metal spacers and longer bolts. All it does is raise the front of the seat up hand an inch or so... You could probably get some parts from the local hardware shop and just make your own spacers...
@@SquireSCA Indeed it seems really simple, the only hard to find/craft is the rubber spacers with offsets... I might give it a try and try to find thick rubber and trim it properly Thanks for the response mate :)
@@sakisns3337 The offset is pretty easy... Find a solid plastic or rubber plug that slides into the hole, and whatever height spacers you use, drill a hole with the same offset in that plug. If I had to do it over again, I would just make my own as a fun little project.
I installed the shim today 8mm but there is a lot of gap between tank and plastic so I removed it. It was very ugly with that much gap. Is there a solution?
Did you put the seat in the right height slot? I believe that it is made for either the top, so there should not be a gap. If you mount the seat in the lower position then there might be. Or vice-versa, I forget which.
@@SquireSCA I install the seat in high position. With shim lower position cannot be set. The plastic which is needed for lower position cannot be installed. There is not enough space to insert it or slide it in. If I could i would sent a picture
@@SquireSCA Just wish all there was to do is just lower the back to make it level. 😏 I'm 5' 8" From what I have been gathering. The best hack for wind buffeting is a clamp on louver. And it's like $35. I have touring wind screen. $240. ish Helps with buffeting but now have to look through plexi .... n bugs. In time there will be a better wind screen out there. Going to order the $35. hack until then.
Great video. Just installed this kit on my 2022 Tracer and I didn’t even look at written instructions; just followed your video. 👍
Just wanted to say thanks for the video. I picked up a kit, and man has this been a game changer for the comfort. Install took a few minutes, payoff will be hours more in the saddle. Awesome job on explaining the process as well.
Haven't got my tracer 9 gt yet, but when I do, this is probably gonna be one of my first mods. Thanks for posting the install :)
Just installed. Seems to be a better position but I haven’t been on a good ride with yet. The stock seat was good already for 2 300 mile rides but this feels like it will be better. Oh, the 3 push pins that go in tank are different from the others. Figured out when I couldn’t get one to secure. They look very similar on a shelf. Other than that I had it done in less than 30 minutes. I wasn’t in a hurry. Thanks
I hate seats that cant forward like that. in the past on bikes that don't have an option to shim, I have removed the seat cover and carefully re shaped the foam so it's flatter, then added back a new layer of memory foam on top of that. worked well and made a huge difference.
Many thanks for this. Didnt knew there is a solution to yamaha stupid Seat positioning. Just ordered one to Poland !
Great work man you helped me so much 👍
Very cool, thanks for showing the details of the install! Even if it should be easy its always great to quickly see what hurdles someone else might have come across.
I'v not ridden my T9 yet as here in Denmark winter insurance is absurdly expensive, i'll test it out in a few weeks time.
Sadly getting that kit imported is going to be a bit of a pain if i end up needing it.
If you had to, you could probably make your own, largely from parts sourced from the local hardware or home improvement store. Find some plastic or metal spacers and slightly longer bolts. You could likely use stacked washers to fine tune it 1mm at time... The tricky part would be making the offset rubber grommet. You could probably easily make one out of a solid piece of rubber or plastic, and then just shave it down so that it slides in there, and drill the holes to correspond to the amount of washers you added under the main mount?
I've owned this bike since last June and have the same complaint. Thanks for hipping me to the shim kit. Perhaps a tripod is in your future.
Yeah, I probably need some accessories...
I think you really do need a goofy tall screen. The ONLY screen that worked close on my 17 Tracer, and I tried lots, was the Puig touring with the deflector. Anything slightly smaller caused noise. I use a tiny screen in summer made from a cut down mra with holes drilled to match the Puig so just 4 small bolts to swap over. Great video, Imdid a similar bodge a few years ago, this is way neater. Yamaha are a bunch of..Seat and screen have been a problem since 2014. How many potential buyers are put off because of this?
Excellent,
Thank you so much for sharing and the detailed video
I was looking for an effective solution and you helped me a lot
Thanks a lot buddy! I`ve just ordered one to Poland. That seat position was pain in the ass. I changed it position many times with same result. I hope this will help. Regards
It does help, and is pretty easy to install. And stay safe over there... Looks like Poland might be next to be in Putin's crosshairs... What an absolute mess you all have on your hands right now... Putin seems bent on becoming Hitler 2.0
Nice. Ive been looking for one of these. Just ordered mine.
Thanks for sharing. May I ask how the quality of the kit’s parts look like ? I am bit concerned about their lasting quality. I have already ordered the kit and please share with me your impressions so far . Thank you in advance.
They are fine, from what I could see.
As other have said - thanks for the video, thanks for the idea. I ordered, and easy, easy installation.
Comment... I really wish you could completely redo the whole video...with a friend holding the camera!
Fair feedback, but I no longer have the bike, so redoing the video is not an option. haha
2:20 I had one of the 3 push pins at the front (they go into the tank) stick, when I tried to prise is out it went flying! Just be aware & have spares like I did. Phew!
Yeah, I usually pick up a box of them at Cycle Gear when I pick up crush washers, just to have them on hand. You either break one, or drop it down into the bike somewhere, pretty much every time you remove them... lol
Thanks for this! I just purchased a used Tracer 900, 2019 model. "The Goo" definitely has a slope feeling in the seat that I want to modify for longer, more comfortable rides. Your link appears to only be for '21 models. Is there a difference? I too am 6'4" and have a taller V-Stream shield. It still hits the top of my helmet and vibrates my brain! No fun that! Swapped the OE shield back in...I'll take the chest wind over the brain box beating!
That link is for the 21+ models but check their website, they have kits for the other years as well.
@@SquireSCA Yes I found the other models on the site right after commenting on your vid. Thanks again
Might try this without buying the kit...my thinking is simply use washer stacks in place of plastic spacer and then simply find a larger rubber grommet in place of the offset special one...I think the slop above it will be fine and if not a squirt of silicone seal into the void with overnight to harden will effectively create an offset grommet...not to cheap out but I honestly don't know if it raising the seat slightly in front is really going to help any....and spending money to accomplish nothing just irks me...maybe if I A really like the result and B am not happy with the washer stacks and oversized grommet? THEN I might buy the shim kit
That will very likely work just fine. The kit is cheap, but yeah, once you see how it works, you can just make one yourself.
Very cool video and I watched before installing. I am left with a gap between the tank and the plastic where the 3 pop rivets go and can’t seem to get rid of the gap. Any ideas ?
Without seeing it, it is hard to determine. Take a video and put it on your channel and send me the link?
Gerry, were you able to solve the gap issue? I'm having the same problem and I can't understand why. Were you able to figure it out?
Thanks for the video and I'm a new subscriber. Looking hard at the Tracer 9GT to replace (maybe) my 2012 Super Tenere. 6'4" also, so looking forward to your thoughts. Lower pegs, risers and this and or, a new seat might be the ticket.
I couldn't get it to work for me, and so I traded it in. I have issues with certain ergonomics and I just couldn't make it work for me.
@@SquireSCA I was afraid of that. Tried the Tracer 900 GT a couple years back but no comparison to my modded Tenere comfort wise. Sat on a Tracer 9 GT last week, though better, it would need work. Search goes on for a new sports tourer for a tall lanky guy. Enjoying your insights and videos.
Going to give it a shot!
For the price, it can't hurt, right?
Thank you for this video !
Expect lots more to come!
Do you think this was worth installing? I haven’t put mine in yet.
It improved it a bit, but in all honesty, the seat is still pretty uncomfortable on longer rides. When I am in the mtns and moving around a lot, its fine. When I go on a longer ride like I did this week, its very uncomfortable. I am not sure how long I will keep this bike. Its awesome in a lot of ways, but the thing I wanted it for was road trips, and unfortunately its not working well in that regard...
@@SquireSCA understand. I don’t know how you do it at 6’4 in the low position for the seat. I will say the air hawk and being in the upper setting is pretty solid. I didn’t really realize how I needed my butt to take pressure off of my knees. Yeah I can see how touring is not at all this bike’s strong point. I came from a super tenere and it was well suited for that. Very comfortable and tons of space and options for you to strap shit onto. But I wanted something more sporty and I can only afford one bike. So this is it for now.
@@Romenet310 I have the seat shimmed and in the high position, and the pegs in the low position... The bars also hurt my neck after about an hour... Not sure what I will migrate to. Gonna look at the Ninja 1000SX, GSX-S1000GT and the Harley Pan American...
Great idea! Where did you get this shim kit?
Link is in the description. :-)
Hi
I have been looking for such a part for a long time :)
Does it work the same in low and high setting ?
Yes, works with both seat height settings.
What would be your opinion on cutting the 2 raised seat height perches at the rear of the seat height adjustment plastic component ? Then set it into the higher position so that only the front raises ?
Possible, but I no longer have the bike to experiment with. It was causing severe neck pain and I had to get rid of it.
Have you consider changing the headlights to the mt 09 version with the single bulbous design compared to the current cateyes
Nah, the headlights worked well enough, and I got rid of the bike months ago...
by using t/he lower position of the front seat mount, haven't you just moved the bracket up and left the seat where it was or maybe even lower?
No, the bracket moves up so it being in that bracket, the front of the seat comes up 8mm. The goal is to level it, by only lifting the front
@@SquireSCA Didn't you say that you originally had the seat in the high position but now you installed it in the low postion? The difference between those positions is more like 20mm (guessing) so you moved the seat down by 20mm then up by 8mm with the shims lifting the seat bracket. Had you left it in the high position, I agree you have lifted the front of the seat by 8mm but not if you change from the high to the low.
@@neilallwood4943 Yes, I explained why in the end, I wanted to ride in the low position if possible. I want to be more in the bike, than perched on top of it getting blasted by wind. But the forward pitch isn;t comfortable... The seat needs to be level. As I can't lower the rear, I needed to raise the front. So basically the front is now in the higher position(almost) and the rear is in the low position
@@neilallwood4943 In a nutshell, I wasn't looking to shim the seat to raise it. I wanted to raise the front, in relation to the rear, so that it sits more flat, and not so sloped down to the front.
@@SquireSCA Totally agree with your intentions, not sure you achieved it with slotting the seat into a lower position than before. The only thing that you acheived was to raise the low position of the front seat mount by 8mm which is 12mm (approx) lower than where you had originally had the seat. All that really matters is that you are happy with the result. Ride safe.
so i took a testride on one of these today, and i found a bit of a pressure point on the backside of my bottom, basically where your back meets your ass, right around the tailbone. the seat was mounted in the higher position, would you say this would more evenly distribute the pressure over the entire surface instead of focussing everything towards the back? i'm 90% sure i'm gonna get one but i do need to get this figured out and set the bike entirely to my liking, not just 95% y'know
Honestly, I never really got it sorted. The $600 Corbin seat felt a lot better, but I could never get the bar ergonomics to work with my neck, so I ended up trading the bike in on a new ZX14R, which I find way more comfortable...
Are there any extra charges for us that are located in Europe ? That's exactly what I need, but I do not want to pay for silly import taxes...
No idea, I don't sell them. But to be honest, its just a piece of 3D printed plastic... once I installed it, I saw how simple it is, and you could likely just make your own shim with plastic or metal spacers and longer bolts. All it does is raise the front of the seat up hand an inch or so... You could probably get some parts from the local hardware shop and just make your own spacers...
@@SquireSCA Indeed it seems really simple, the only hard to find/craft is the rubber spacers with offsets... I might give it a try and try to find thick rubber and trim it properly
Thanks for the response mate :)
@@sakisns3337 The offset is pretty easy... Find a solid plastic or rubber plug that slides into the hole, and whatever height spacers you use, drill a hole with the same offset in that plug.
If I had to do it over again, I would just make my own as a fun little project.
I installed the shim today 8mm but there is a lot of gap between tank and plastic so I removed it. It was very ugly with that much gap. Is there a solution?
Did you put the seat in the right height slot? I believe that it is made for either the top, so there should not be a gap. If you mount the seat in the lower position then there might be. Or vice-versa, I forget which.
@@SquireSCA I install the seat in high position. With shim lower position cannot be set. The plastic which is needed for lower position cannot be installed. There is not enough space to insert it or slide it in. If I could i would sent a picture
Hi Dave how much was the kit please?
Link in the description, $25-$30
Where you ordered the crashbars?
amzn.to/3Jra27w
Were you ordered this
Link is in the description dude
Glad i have a 3d Printer xD
Were too buy?
Dude, I put the link in the description. lol
A tripod would help!
I have one now. haha
@@SquireSCA nice
Uggg, I wish that the back of the seat could have been lowered.
Grrr
How do you mean? Shim the front and lower the back?
@@SquireSCA
Just wish all there was to do is just lower the back to make it level. 😏
I'm 5' 8"
From what I have been gathering. The best hack for wind buffeting is a clamp on louver. And it's like $35.
I have touring wind screen. $240. ish Helps with buffeting but now have to look through plexi .... n bugs.
In time there will be a better wind screen out there.
Going to order the $35. hack until then.