@Bails992 Dear God, I'm amazed that the Tangaras were a mere year behind schedule. I'm amazed they weren't three years late, twice as costly as they should have been and only half as long.
The Tangara was indeed, far ahead of it’s time. It gained a bit of attention from overseas railway users and Enthusiasts. It was a train that was from the year 2000 but built in 1989, and throughout the 90’s definitely had influence on other australian modern trains.
Oh yeah, they used chopper thyristor controlled motors, Vs the clunky camshaft resistor bank controlled ones, they didn't jolt violently because of that
No mate. You may have seen the tilt train at the Easter Show but I remember seeing the Tangara. Though it wasn't the prototype I don't think - the one I saw was the finished product. And they had a miniature version that you rode around on.
Hehe like a love child of a k set and tangarra! Was that motor car and driving trailer or just trailer? So c sets are now all off and some k sets still in service beat the c sets on longetivity in service, especially the first batch with the driving trailers. C sets had a fresh smell inside and the arrows above the doorways which i remember on north shore line. Jm
ah yes, when a few days of a 2 car set on the same track is enough testing for a brand new computer control technology, and now we need multiple 10 car sets running tens of thousands of kilometres to test effectively the same train we already have hundreds of. (yes I know the NIFs has different dimensions to the V-Sets, but I'm just making a point).
sydnytrainspotter Correction. There was two variants. The suburban T Sets, which entered service between 1988 and 1994, and the outer-suburban G Sets, which entered service from 1994 and 1995.
Sad news the [ C set ] is now going to be farewell and the t7 reason why k c s set why is not running in t7 they had to retired sliver sets and now the m set was running during the weekend so it sad to say goodbye to c set
I'm glad they went with the currant Tangara Design to me it's more appealing, although it's getting longer in the tooth (I remember seeing them in preschool since my preschool backed onto the train lines) now out of the intercity and suburbans milenium and Oscars I still prefer the Tangara (heck I'm in the process of making a 2 bedroom house outta one easy and cheap and unique) theres enough internal room to do it just over 40 metre square
Adam The Aussie I’m with you. I imagine that had they picked any of those prototypes, it wouldn’t have been as cool to look at. The current design has aged very well, as it still looks indistinguishable next to newer sets like the Waratahs.
1987 delivery date for the Tangaras? Didn't they come in somewhere around 1993 or 1994? Glad to see the NSW Government is maintaining its usual high standards!
Nope I remember catching a Tangara in 88 and losing my damn mind at how cool it was. Cardboard fold up trains were given out at the 88 Royal Easter Show but I don't think I got to ride on one until some months after that.
jellybean91 Correction, there were two variants of the Tangara: - T Sets, which are the standard suburban sets with fixed seating. T Sets entered service from 1988 to 1994. - G Sets, which were used on shorter intercity trips. They were later converted to T Sets due to moving to suburban duties full-time after the OSCAR H Set introduction. G Sets entered service from 1994 to 1995.
@@vonsanchezz I remember spotting the odd tangara in 1988 and thinking wow! First ride on one I couldn't believe, air conditioned, you can't open the windows and quite a pleasant ride.
Dalts1985 What they meant was that this train, now dubbed as the C Set, was the first Sydney train to use a thyristor motor, also known as “chopper control”. This type of motor allowed for smoother acceleration. The C Sets were made in order to accommodate the delay of the Tangara fleet. 56 C Set carriages were constructed by Goninan in Newcastle, while they were still in the process of the designing phase for the Tangaras. Goninan was awarded the contract in 1985. These C Sets were kind of considered the testing ground, as they have similar components to the Tangara, like fixed seating.
no it’s not actually. it’s a c set it just doesn’t have its fibreglass front. you can tell it’s a c set from its roof vents at the front and at the end of the video you can hear the chopper whine
C set: You
Tangara: The guy she tells you not to worry about
2021, and now all the C sets are being scrapped/taken out of passenger service
Scrapped and been put in the TTU
God bless this 240P video.
At the end, I was waiting for "David Jones, 7 News." Lol! It got cut off!
@Bails992 Dear God, I'm amazed that the Tangaras were a mere year behind schedule. I'm amazed they weren't three years late, twice as costly as they should have been and only half as long.
My opinion the design of the tangarra i think is ahead of its time
The actual design? Or the one from this video?
The actual design
Because the prototype looks shit
The prototype is a modified k set
The Tangara was indeed, far ahead of it’s time. It gained a bit of attention from overseas railway users and Enthusiasts. It was a train that was from the year 2000 but built in 1989, and throughout the 90’s definitely had influence on other australian modern trains.
Was that a monorail design I saw? For a C set too! Wow! Imagine that actually on the C set today!
Trey Pohe It was a prototype design for the Tangara.
That's what they thought tangaras would look like lol .
the reason it looks like a k set is there is no fibre glass classy scoop
Oh yeah, they used chopper thyristor controlled motors, Vs the clunky camshaft resistor bank controlled ones, they didn't jolt violently because of that
Looking at those Tangara prototypes... thank god they didn’t approve those!
Those seats... Barely any padding (just like the a sets) and non-reversible seats.
No mate. You may have seen the tilt train at the Easter Show but I remember seeing the Tangara. Though it wasn't the prototype I don't think - the one I saw was the finished product. And they had a miniature version that you rode around on.
Very nice video, good to keep the history of C sets alive
Hmm .. 1986 ... how many VK Commodores are still out there as daily drivers?.....
And the train with a brain is now gone... If that's the case, I fear the future of Sydney Trains.
I was correct to fear the future of Sydney Trains.
"" because nobody will save the Governor General ""
Hehe like a love child of a k set and tangarra! Was that motor car and driving trailer or just trailer? So c sets are now all off and some k sets still in service beat the c sets on longetivity in service, especially the first batch with the driving trailers. C sets had a fresh smell inside and the arrows above the doorways which i remember on north shore line. Jm
Btw the C set in the video is a K set, it was testing if T and C sets things that if it will work
Its C3581 and its associated trailer C3581 later received its fibreglass front
ah yes, when a few days of a 2 car set on the same track is enough testing for a brand new computer control technology, and now we need multiple 10 car sets running tens of thousands of kilometres to test effectively the same train we already have hundreds of. (yes I know the NIFs has different dimensions to the V-Sets, but I'm just making a point).
the color of front is still used in v-sets?
Now I know how to absolutely ruin a C-set. Remove the panels next to the stairs in the vestibule.
@Bails992 These were the best colours... State Rail Red, Yellow and Orange.
@Bails992 Oh. I thought the last Tangara came out in 1995 because after T sets were G sets.
(Oh, I always listen to wikipedia. :)
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@XboxJT1 How do you do that exactly?
@Bails992 Didnt the last Tangara come out in 1995? :)
sydnytrainspotter Correction. There was two variants. The suburban T Sets, which entered service between 1988 and 1994, and the outer-suburban G Sets, which entered service from 1994 and 1995.
Today, on the 26 of February 2021 was the last day of passenger service. From this day they are no longer in service.
I'm pretty sure I saw a C-set on the Olympic Park line the other day so I guess they're still available for peak services, as back ups, etc.
@@andrewkemp1882, yes, I know.
Sad news the [ C set ] is now going to be farewell and the t7 reason why k c s set why is not running in t7 they had to retired sliver sets and now the m set was running during the weekend so it sad to say goodbye to c set
They put a monorail front on a c set lol
I'm glad they went with the currant Tangara Design to me it's more appealing, although it's getting longer in the tooth (I remember seeing them in preschool since my preschool backed onto the train lines) now out of the intercity and suburbans milenium and Oscars I still prefer the Tangara (heck I'm in the process of making a 2 bedroom house outta one easy and cheap and unique) theres enough internal room to do it just over 40 metre square
Adam The Aussie I’m with you. I imagine that had they picked any of those prototypes, it wouldn’t have been as cool to look at. The current design has aged very well, as it still looks indistinguishable next to newer sets like the Waratahs.
1987 delivery date for the Tangaras? Didn't they come in somewhere around 1993 or 1994? Glad to see the NSW Government is maintaining its usual high standards!
Nope I remember catching a Tangara in 88 and losing my damn mind at how cool it was. Cardboard fold up trains were given out at the 88 Royal Easter Show but I don't think I got to ride on one until some months after that.
jellybean91 Correction, there were two variants of the Tangara:
- T Sets, which are the standard suburban sets with fixed seating. T Sets entered service from 1988 to 1994.
- G Sets, which were used on shorter intercity trips. They were later converted to T Sets due to moving to suburban duties full-time after the OSCAR H Set introduction. G Sets entered service from 1994 to 1995.
@@vonsanchezz I remember spotting the odd tangara in 1988 and thinking wow! First ride on one I couldn't believe, air conditioned, you can't open the windows and quite a pleasant ride.
@@vonsanchezzwhere can I get one of those fold up trains?
Interesting
0:56 Is that even a C set
That was a Prototype of the Tangara.
@@AheadMatthewawsome But it's the Comeng version so...
Lol! Train-With-A=Brain... I like...
Dalts1985 What they meant was that this train, now dubbed as the C Set, was the first Sydney train to use a thyristor motor, also known as “chopper control”. This type of motor allowed for smoother acceleration.
The C Sets were made in order to accommodate the delay of the Tangara fleet. 56 C Set carriages were constructed by Goninan in Newcastle, while they were still in the process of the designing phase for the Tangaras. Goninan was awarded the contract in 1985. These C Sets were kind of considered the testing ground, as they have similar components to the Tangara, like fixed seating.
Because it powered by High Battery.
the train with a brain you say then whats its IQ
Shame they put such horrible seats in the C sets.
That’s k set
no it’s not actually. it’s a c set it just doesn’t have its fibreglass front. you can tell it’s a c set from its roof vents at the front and at the end of the video you can hear the chopper whine
Its C3581 and its associated trailer C3581 later received its fibreglass front