We don't know that he "didn't take the footage", we only know that he didn't end up using it in a video. Having said that, give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Panic attacks are real. Not everyone can function properly and think clearly when they think they're in a life-or-death situation. And panicking when you're alone in the wilderness IS ALWAYS a very dangerous situation! That he was in over his head is pretty obvious, just from the information he tells you himself. Regardless of what actually happened, the emergency services publically roasting this guy is absolutely unprofessional, to the point of being disgusting. So there's plenty of blame to go around. Hopefully, all parties involved will learn lessons that none of them will ever forget.
I watched this guy’s video. I think you read this guy right. Definitely in over his head and over confident going in. I was skeptical of his story, like you said some obvious exaggerations and I figured he may have read the deputies wrong. Then I went and looked at the Sheriff’s Facebook post. As former law enforcement i’m shocked by what I see. After seeing that I believe most of his version of the deputies’ behavior. They seem to think this is all a big joke. Did you see the picture they posted on FB of this guy with the wild eyed look? I bet as search and rescue you’ve seen that look many times. This guy. really needed help. Thanks for the commentary.
I think the idea that he hit the sos as some plot to make an epic helicopter rescue video is absolutely ridiculous. I think all the points about him limiting his filming post-sos, and just the general understanding that having to be rescued on a winter hike is not going to reflect positively on his channel that is centered around outdoor adventures and hiking/camping skills, is evidence enough to dispel this conspiracy. I think we can discard that notion pretty easily. With that said, I think the rest of the situation is pretty clear: the hiker is at fault for lack of preparedness, and the LEOs are at fault for their lack of professionalism and compassion. The hiker may have had provisions to survive but if he didn't know how to use them, and couldn't find his trail/navigate accurately, then no matter what you might think he *was* in actual need of help. Hikers die all the time in all kinds of climates with food/water still in their packs and a shelter to sleep in. However justified the criticism may be for the hiker, in the context of his abilities and circumstances he did in fact need rescue. Why the sherrifs department felt the need to post something so unprofessional and unnecessary in order to garner a few likes on social media I'll never understand. It's honestly childish and disgusting.
Nonetheless, that's the impression that I had by the end - a put-up job from start to nearly the finish, when unfortunately he didn't get the helivac he'd have preferred. This guy is supposedly experienced, especially in matters of gear, so why only one gas can? So many questions arising. "How can I make a video about using a Garmin SOS and getting rescued - sort of testing the system, so people can see what actually happens? Need a short hike in the snow, say 3 days, get into a bowl with a frozen lake big enough for a chopper to land, steep scarps all around so I can claim to be stuck. Make sure to run out of gas and don't mention fires. Also be sure to video everything, including the rescue - should make a great film!" Unfortunately, declaring the lake was good for a landing didn't work, so he only got to film the walk up the hill - in 'waist-deep snow' (not). I doubt it would reflect negatively on his channel - hiker makes mistakes, gets stuck and calls for rescue. That's how it happens, and everyone knows it can happen to anyone, so the channel gets more subscribers, more views and more money. All publicity is good publicity, no? What if the Garmin had failed when he needed it? He'd have lit a fire, boiled water, eaten plenty of the food he still had, hunkered down for the night and then got out the next day, either up to the road or back the way he'd come, following his trail. Then put together a film about "how I got stuck in the back-country but fought my way out against all odds".
Nope.. he just thought having rescue insurance meant he gets a free ride whenever he doesn't feel like giving it his all... 😅😅 Dude literally wouldn't even try. If it takes 3 days to climb that hill. Get to climbing. That's it. He was never lost. He wasn't injured. No rescue necessary. He wasn't rescued. He was escorted. But untrained non-hikers. And he's embarrassed as hell.
I remember mushroom hunting with small groups of people that would split up and occasionally get lost. I would meet them on the trail lost and in a panic. In that panicked state its impossible to think clearly. Unless you've been there you wouldn't understand.
I agree with your assessment. I think the guy just went in overconfident and probably got scared (justifiably) which then likely put him in the wrong state of mind. Walking over the lake? Ran out of fuel to cook your food? Doesn't make sense. That said, the sheriff's department mishandled it before, during and after the fact. Why would they ask him to move in the first place? You can't assume the person needing rescue is capable of assessing anything correctly. This could of turned bad very easily but luckily it didn't.
really the crux of this entire thing is, no matter how stupid this guy is, he screwed up and needed help, and the rescue team was probably the worst possible rescue team imaginable. not only that but they illegally doxxed this guy, and lied. what a poor, poor public service. i cant imagine those guys have a good relationship with the people theyre meant to be serving and *protecting*
Worked as nurse for over 30 years on an emergency ward...Love the outdoors...About rescue someone...You always get to the victim of rescue no matter what degree of training you have...Never leave the person you are going to rescue...You person in distress always stay there you are...Stay warm...Avoid sweating...Liquids always more important than food...Always have 5 protein bars & soup packages for a possible rescue situation...Bring a rescue bivy. In winter time make shure you know how to make a fire on snow or ice. Bring a pole or make a stick to check out snow deep & ice condition. Save your energy!...Try not to panic..Don't rush things....Always take extra of time for all your actions...Never take risks you can avoid...Great video about surviving & how not to rescue someone...Love from Sweden...😍
Sorry if you took it that way, this was a point out to get training before you go out in bad conditions and Know you can survive on your own, he was fine even if it was just a sos for help to get back to his truck, self awareness and your limitations should tell you NOT to go into something your not ready for so when little things go wrong, your not freaking. if something gos wrong and your gut says hit it, hit it, the rest was a call out for the reaction of the responding units. no one should ever NOT hit a sos button BUT people should learn to be in the outback BEFORE they go, especially in IDAHO before you go out, do like a trial run or with a friend and make it like a "everything went wrong". hope that helps.
@@IdahosDeadpool that is all very true, but its still not good for the police to be publicly shaming someone, by name, for asking for help. As that can discourage others from asking for help.
I think your analysis of the situation is spot on, and I wholeheartedly agree with your opinions here. The biggest thing that stands out to me is that this guy went out into this situation unprepared to build a fire if he needed to.
He almost died in a forrest surrounded by snow (water and fuel), because he wasnt able to start a fire and melt snow with plan B equipment when his hightech stuff let him down One bowl for melting snow on a fire
I live in rural CO. Our deputies make $20/hr. That's not a lot of reward to be asked to put your own life on the line to save idiot tourists. Our area has very low residential population density (low tax base) but high use from people coming up from the Front Range to recreate. LE and EMS in rural areas need better funding and better training without all the tax burden being put on the people who live here. Amazing we have trillions of tax/debt dollars to kill people and blow shit up all over the world on behalf of Israel, big oil, and the .01%, but can't afford LE and EMS at home.
Very good insights!!! Very fair and balanced with actual knowledge ans skills. Such videos like yours are very importatnt part of the story. I myself am strugling to sort out who is right and who is wrong in this story, amd your experience in rescue and survival/hard tracking situations help a lot. I really appreciate. This deserve a lot more views! Also apreciate your SNR service, greetings from Europe.
The trekker should've bailed when he saw the conditions weren't what he'd planned for. Big mistake. The "SAR" were callous and unprofessional. Humans are stupid. 🤡
for someone going into the back country without a lighter or matches? hes in the forest. if i was the police or rescue . I would be ashamed of my fellow man as well. I wonder if he even had a knife..
In the words of Dave Canterbury. "most confuse a survival situation for what is a inconvenient camping situation caused by lack of skills and knowledge and preparation" the guy was warm and dry had food and the abillity to stay hydrated he didint need emergency help he needed to be a real outdoorsman before heading out.
100% agree with your assessment here as someone who has worked in similar field. Unprofessionalism from the rescue team. Overconfidence and a reality check for the youtuber. Like you said people do weird things in a panic. Whats obvious to me - like using bodyheat to melt snow - isnt obvious to a person who's experiencing a panic.
and at 25 mins walkin across the lake he could be using the opportunity to charge his equipment. Pure sun and the extra 5-10 percent more from reflection thats an xtra day of communication.
I don’t understand going into the woods with no idea how to make fire. I also would never travel with just a little water. He seems to follow the stupid ultra light type ideology. Meaning they don’t believe in carrying anything other then what’s needed. I’ve seen many think a compass was extra weight. I don’t understand taking a trip like this without survival training. I believe these devices give untrained a false sense of safety. Maybe I’m just old we didn’t have things like this when I was young hiking an camping. I’ve camped in Idaho,Utah, New Mexico. Never felt cold like the high desert. I also believe in the buddy team. I believe this guy has good instincts he just lacks proper training. Really believe everyone should take a survival course an first aid. In Boy Scouts we always had refreshers. In the army I trained for every environment. I was part of Ranger school for 3 years. Why wouldn’t he have another means of cooking like alcohol, I prefer a hobo stove. One is none two is one. Can’t believe I didn’t see this month’s ago.
WHEN DEHYDRATION, EXAUSTION, AND FEAR HIT, THOUGHT IS NOT ALWAYS CLEAR. NO MATTER HW MUCH TRAINING YOU HAVE. BASICALLY HE BIT OFF MORE THAN HE COULD CHEW. IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE EVEN JOE WOODSMAN.
Has someone that spends most of my time outside of work In the woods and back country I agree he’s not what I would call an outdoors man. Having said that I watched his video twice. And regardless of his experience or lack of experience I do think the two officers shouldn’t publicly ridiculed him like they did. And here’s why. This will only serves to dissuade people from pushing the inreach when it matters. His experience has absolutely zero to do with their lack of professionalism in this particular instance. They are after all paid police officers! To project and serve if my memory serves me right? People can debate whether or not Jonathan Conti should have done this or that till they are blue in the face. That’s totally irrelevant when it comes to the job they are clearly paid to do. To publicly humiliate this guy was totally and utterly disgusting! I’m stunned at the level they choose to post his name, job, address. They totally docs him! Imagine if this was your loved one? Would anyone want their loved one being do the way this poor guy was done? I would hope not? Like I said I’m afraid this will only serve to dissuade others that see this. When it should be the total opposite. In the end the two Idaho county deputies “ Keith Olsen and Stan Denham was unprofessional, and failed to make one of their own local citizens fill safe with reaching out for help. Through their actions others are placed in possible danger due to their actions that day. I wonder if their boss feels like they crossed a line when they chose to ridicule Jonathan?
I think this guy was in WAY over his head, and drastically overestimated his skills. The commenters on his video ripping law enforcement seem to be taking this guy's word for everything that happened. He's trying to cover his own shortcomings. Thank you very much for this video!
Imagine a trapper in the 1830’s clearly they were able to endure without technology (to include fabrics and garments, stoves etc…). And I’m sure it was a trial and many didn’t come home. Also perhaps they didn’t fully overwinter in the mountains, but they would have encountered the same, perhaps by surprise. Then let’s not leave the Indians either…. Our ancestors were pretty sturdy… I think this guys analysis is pretty spot on. The ‘victim’ first and foremost needs a map reading class. Then skills that support contingencies (like the fire building).
These ancestors you are talking about had a life expectancy less than 40 years old, so I am sure few of them did not manage to deal with the challenges
Cops are like, we're not walking down that hill gettin our boots wet and we can just send a chopper later to get your body if we you freeze to death half way up the cliff. If there were a doughnut shop down there it'd be another story. It is lucky he didn't follow the cops direction. Those cops were completely irresponsible; speaks poorly for the state of Idaho.
1. He willingly went solo hiking/camping in winter conditions 2. He’s using snowshoes (without poles?), when skis are the obvious choice 3. His approach (Savage Pass -> Walton Lakes trail) is fairly long, about 7 miles, and he hiked farther cuz 360 road closed due to snow N of trailhead…probably 4-5 miles 4. The trail is moderate grade to lakes, there are no steep cliffs down to lake if your even close to being on route, the steep ground is to the W of lakes, the way he went out 5. He had plenty of food and water. He had an open stream right by his campsite. You don’t need hot water to eat an MRE, he didn’t need a fire 6. He’s young and in shape, almost certainly better shape than the sheriffs who came and got him. He could have simply walked back out the way he came in. There’s no steep ground that way, he was never trapped. It would’ve been a long hike, probably 11 miles or so, but easy grade 7. They got him via Tom Beal road, just above the lakes. He could’ve found his way out, it’s an obvious line to see 8. He was never hurt or injured, they were right to ask him to hike out. He never needed a “rescue” or helicopter he kept asking about. When they showed up, he hiked out with his stuff in a few hours, then they snowmobiled to their rig, and drove him to his car 9. It’s public record if the Sheriff rescues someone, by posting facts of case it may prevent someone from being as foolish as this fellow, they were doing a public service 10. He’s a YT content creator, but my guess is he didn’t want to hike back out cuz he was never in danger at all
Nah man, dude got emotional in the video when telling that the rescue men where "mean" to him and basically didn't hug him when they found him. And that they only gave some kind of bar to eat, like he had been starving for a week or something. Just breaking balls, trying not to judge too much, and I'm glad he hit the SOS before he got in real trouble, but from his video I got the vibe he's not the kind of guy who's prepared, mentally and skill-wise, for that kind of "adventure"...
My impression was similliar, like he was entitled to press the rescue button and be rescued by chopper, because he was paying $50 a month subscription to Garmin ;)
@@andymason2 maybe it's just me, but If I was in the life threatening situation and was rescued, I would be grateful to rescuers no matter what. He survived after all didn't he? Only thing hurt was his ego...
@@andymason2 Jackass? They always make reports like this to warn others, ecpecially if they had to rescue him, and since he is public UA-camr and his name is the name of his channel, I dont see the problem at all. He should have made video about mistakes he made, not bitching about rescuers not being nice to him. They weren't even professional rescuers in the first place!
He said 2 days... But walked out in 2 hours.. 😅😅 He may have had hours of footage he didn't use. Strange to assume he only took those 2 short clips If he hit the sos button with a broken leg... They would have called out a helicopter. Without doubt. Sos is just like calling 911... You don't decide how the response happens... The professionals decide that... He made an incorrect assumption that he was getting a free ride.. not realizing he's walking it regardless. Took them one hour to hike down.. and hour to walk back out. They were correct... He was thinking 2 days... It took an hour. 😂😂
HE WAS LOST OR NOT PREPARED FOR THIS ADVENTURE. HE WAS NOT INJURED OR SICK. THESE OFFICERS WERE NOT TRAINED PROFESSIONAL RESCUERS AND NOT ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT LOOKING FOR THIS ILL-PREPARED VICTIM WHO RAN OUT OF FUEL. THEY MIGHT OF THOUGHT THIS WAS A HOAX FOR YOU TUBING. GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE TRAINED PROFESSIONALS AND GARMIN SHOULD BE INFORMED ABOUT THIS RESPONSE.
This guy’s attitude to them rescuing him, after the info that he gave them (he was ok, had food, was mobile, etc) was one of arrogance. He was willing to take a lot of risks to get himself into that situation, yet wasn’t willing to take those same risks to help get himself out of it? Like, beggars can’t be choosers! I think this whole attitude he had is what caused the rescue law enforcement to react that way, albeit unprofessional. They’re the ones willing to risk their lives for a complete stranger, and yet he wasn’t even willing to risk his own life to help himself get out.
I commented on his site. He should not have been disrespected but he needs to learn from his mistakes. We've all made wilderness mistakes but you MUST have camping / survival skills if you're going to put yourself in a dangerous position. You don't put yourself in potentially deadly situations and expect others to rescue you from your lack of common sense. Hopefully, he's learned something. DON'T be the Donner party!
If everyone did what you say there would never be a need for SAR. But, sometimes even experienced ourdoorsman need help. Not everone sits on the couch all day, shit happens.
@@timgunderson3571 I'm sure all of us that have spent time in the wilderness have made mistakes. I know I have. I think the key is being aware of your shortfalls in skills and correcting it. I knew how to find tinder and squaw wood (smalls) in a wet / snow environment when I was 12. He should have been a Boy Scout lol. You've got to walk before you run.
I saw that video, two things... That guy should have built a small wood fire to melt snow and cook his food. Also, if he had crampons or microspikes he could have simply walked out. But bad boots in a situation like that and I can see his point.
I'm a rural firefighter who has assisted in numerous search and rescue missions. I have observed that since a multitude of communications devices have appeared, many people purchase them with the expectation that pushing the SOS will bring an instant response of helicopters and large amounts of ground forces just like in an urban area. They believe a single push of the button is the solution for any emergency when the reality is rescues take time to accomplish safely for positive results.
I loved your " take " and appreciate it, and it made me think ... but I still think it might have been planned from the beginning. The FB post by the Sheriffs department was out of line and unprofessional. As far as him not recording that you mentioned ... maybe he just didn't post it. He obviously had some footage ... I believe he just didn't want too much for people to scrutinize and poke further holes in his story. No matter how you slice it, he is definitely an utter fool, and possibly a shameless POS. BTW ... I posted a rather lengthy comment on his post stating as much and calling him out on some of his BS ... It was deleted in less than 2 minutes !
thats the thing with outdoor stuff. If everything goes well common sense will get you through it. With hardly any experience/gear. He was ill prepared for sure. Bringing just one gas bottle and more important: No backup fire solution. Having a lighter would be a good start, but even that can get wet. Not saying you need to know how to make a fire with a fire steel if you set your foot out the door, but if you go into a remote location where you can be cut off for days, then have a plan, a backup and a backup for the backup. He got himself into a survival situation without any survival skills. If it was so serious - you have ways to melt snow without a fire and those dry meals don't need boiling water. Sure it tastes better if hot, but to not starve cold water is perfectly fine. In the end - no point in grieving about it, even as non professionals. He surely learned from his mistakes and if I look back at my 20s, I did a lot of dumb shit.
Ha - so glad to find this. Pretty much my thoughts, and I just said as much under his video - but I thought I was the only one. Good to know it's not just me!
Comment from somebody who knows both Deputies-- One was my Hunter's Safety instructor. He was in charge of the County SAR at that time. He's been chasing all over the mountains in winter for decades. A job like this is irritating because it takes them away from their regular work. But it is their job. The Sheriff has to account for missing persons--dead or alive. My best guess is, they were saying something like, "This guy calls for a helicopter so that he doesn't need to climb a hill. Hope he enjoys the bill!" Idaho County DOES have a Search and Rescue team. It is mainly the Sheriff's Deputies, and a lot of fair-weather people like me who have to be to work at 8 on Monday. Why they posted this on Facebook is beyond me. It could have been in the Idaho County Free Press as front-page news, or it could have been listed in the Sheriff's log. Professionalism is worth a lot. So is woodsmanship. Seems this guy didn't think to build a fire? That would have solved everything. Chop a hole in the ice and go fishing.
I am pretty sure he has a bunch of footage. This is his second time out in that area. Here's the video from spring, ua-cam.com/video/u6QOdgCiGUc/v-deo.html His after hike review, where he responded to someone mentioning that an emergency chopper would have made a good video... ua-cam.com/video/U1y3wTYvEuM/v-deo.html Maybe you guys can do a live chat? ;)
They're not trained for search and rescue but if rescue is effectively part of their job, they, at the very least, need to take it seriously when it happens. I think those cops ought to be fired if all they're gonna do is bitch and moan and talk shit on Facebook (and, I guess, in their report), when the dude's only a mile from the road.
Did you actually see what they wrote? They didn't talk shit at all, they simply made a factual report on what happened. After he lied to them about his situation and did all of this simply to make a video, they have every right to be salty anyway. What if someone else ACTUALLY needed help during the time they were screwing with him?
@UhYeahWhateverDude This is such a dumb take. You can criticize the hiker all day, and some of it is definitely justified, but in the context of his skill level and circumstances he *was* in trouble. Sure, if he knew how to make a fire in the snow, and had better prepared his route, and been able to find his trail in those conditions, then he would've been fine with the food he had and all of his gear. But the fact is if he doesn't have the aforementioned skill/preparation, then he is in actual trouble and needs help. Hikers die all the time with food and water still in their packs because of situations just like this.
@@deepspace9043 @deepspace9043 I guess you have not watched his other video then, because he DOES know how to make a fire in the snow (he does it in a video!), and he does have the know-how. He is just a shameless asshole looking for views at any expense. You can continue to defend his honor with every person who wrote a realistic comment on here though, I'm sure he appreciates it.
Crazy his vids usually average a few thousand views. A handful around 10k This vid over 800k views I agree, I dont think he’s trying to get the views, but he got em 😂 Definitely should have been more knowledgeable and equipped for this
The problem wasn't that he couldn't *walk* to the trail, the problem was he couldn't find it. You have clearly never been in the backcountry in thick snow - trails can be almost impossible to identify
@@deepspace9043 Looks like it all went to plan then. He managed to find the trail all the way to the second lake, but suddenly couldn't find it anymore, conveniently at a great place for a chopper to land. 🤔
and at 27 minute im thinkin. we have a guy, who doesnt know how to make a fire, has plenty of food, seems like a good kid., no way im spending money on heli e vac. lol. he needs to learn a valuable, repeat! VALUABLE lesson right now. lol. and all they gave me was a cliff Bar?/ bro,, this aint Disneyland. are they ur mommy? once i at Raw wheat berries. and you have MREs? add some flippen snow and start chomping dude. im mean. sorry. participation ribbons for everyone. but no participation ribbon when u choose to head out like this. if ur not wild. get wild.
Even if this guy was over exaggerating himself and being stupid going into the bowl. The officers should have been nicer and in any situation if someone is saying the need help then you shouldn’t say how it’s only 2 feet of snow you should just go help them. Also it wasn’t the officers that were really in the wrong. The garmen he pays 50 dollars a month to use should have actually sent a real rescue team instead of just calling the local police station.
Hummm, interesting, the female made it but it sounds like he has at least watched many times, so he should have a idea of how... Thank you for the link!
You should have taken the time to watch the entire video by Jon Conti. For starters, the "rescue" team had no search and rescue experience. They were untrained police officers. And they told Jon to hike up the 1000' cliff. Jon was experienced and his rescue team wasn't. It sounds like you are only concerned with telling us about your experience in the woods. This isn't about you and it isn't about Jon. It's about what happens when you hit the SOS button on a Garmin device. The clear message is that it's a crap shoot. You could get inexperienced help like the two guys who showed up to help Jon and told him to break trail up a 1000' cliff. Try to show a little passion next time you do one of these critiques.
He wasn't lost... He wasn't hurt.. he wasn't out of food or water. He thought having rescue insurance meant he gets to call a helicopter for whatever reason he wanted.. even if there is no real emergency. When the reality is.. he would be stuck with the bill... Because there was no EMERGENCY. 😂😂 You only need to stay put... When you are lost. He was never lost. He simply panicked. Didn't try to make a fire.. no butane isn't an emergency. 🤣 Complete lack of basic outdoorsman skills. The officials read the situation correctly. No helicopter was necessary. They walked him out while still in daylight... (Less than 2 hours) in regular police uniforms..😅😅 Mad they didn't bring him a hot meal.. 🤣 they knew he was going to be out in an hour or two. No food necessary. And they didn't dox him. It's all public record. And perfectly normal to inform them public of such "rescue" situations.. because the news would pick up on it anyway. He wouldn't even try to zig zag to the hill... Afraid he wouldn't make it before dark. It's snow.. you can see at night pretty well.. if you don't make it.. stomp out a pad in the snow and sleep on the side of the hill... Completely unprepared and lacking skill. Packing loose snow in the cup... Instead of ice or packed snow.. 🤣 Eat the food dry if necessary. Whole thing is embarrassing
It's not correct that he should have stayed where he was... He WASN'T LOST... He wasn't injured. The sheriff's department got it correct. He got the assistance he requested. Efficiently. Regardless of the SOS button.. the information he shared with Garmin and the sheriff's department made it very clear that he was not in need of an ACTUAL RESCUE response... At all. Very clear. You keep saying he's lost. He was never lost. He was in un-confident. That's it. Them moving a couple logs on the ski trail is irrelevant. 😂😂
Sure. Everything points that he had planned the whole thing. Taking time to film, place the tripod; make the shoot. Get the tripod. One gas canister for a « week in winter » ? 😂
34;37, i this some kind of uber or garmin taxi service? maybe one of the guys has a friendly banjo and they can sing coombiya? the nerve of this guy. i know im harsh. so is falling through the ice, and all the ankle biters. this guy!
We don't know that he "didn't take the footage", we only know that he didn't end up using it in a video. Having said that, give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Panic attacks are real. Not everyone can function properly and think clearly when they think they're in a life-or-death situation. And panicking when you're alone in the wilderness IS ALWAYS a very dangerous situation! That he was in over his head is pretty obvious, just from the information he tells you himself. Regardless of what actually happened, the emergency services publically roasting this guy is absolutely unprofessional, to the point of being disgusting. So there's plenty of blame to go around. Hopefully, all parties involved will learn lessons that none of them will ever forget.
I watched this guy’s video. I think you read this guy right. Definitely in over his head and over confident going in. I was skeptical of his story, like you said some obvious exaggerations and I figured he may have read the deputies wrong. Then I went and looked at the Sheriff’s Facebook post. As former law enforcement i’m shocked by what I see. After seeing that I believe most of his version of the deputies’ behavior. They seem to think this is all a big joke. Did you see the picture they posted on FB of this guy with the wild eyed look? I bet as search and rescue you’ve seen that look many times. This guy. really needed help. Thanks for the commentary.
I think the idea that he hit the sos as some plot to make an epic helicopter rescue video is absolutely ridiculous. I think all the points about him limiting his filming post-sos, and just the general understanding that having to be rescued on a winter hike is not going to reflect positively on his channel that is centered around outdoor adventures and hiking/camping skills, is evidence enough to dispel this conspiracy. I think we can discard that notion pretty easily.
With that said, I think the rest of the situation is pretty clear: the hiker is at fault for lack of preparedness, and the LEOs are at fault for their lack of professionalism and compassion.
The hiker may have had provisions to survive but if he didn't know how to use them, and couldn't find his trail/navigate accurately, then no matter what you might think he *was* in actual need of help.
Hikers die all the time in all kinds of climates with food/water still in their packs and a shelter to sleep in. However justified the criticism may be for the hiker, in the context of his abilities and circumstances he did in fact need rescue.
Why the sherrifs department felt the need to post something so unprofessional and unnecessary in order to garner a few likes on social media I'll never understand. It's honestly childish and disgusting.
Nonetheless, that's the impression that I had by the end - a put-up job from start to nearly the finish, when unfortunately he didn't get the helivac he'd have preferred. This guy is supposedly experienced, especially in matters of gear, so why only one gas can? So many questions arising.
"How can I make a video about using a Garmin SOS and getting rescued - sort of testing the system, so people can see what actually happens? Need a short hike in the snow, say 3 days, get into a bowl with a frozen lake big enough for a chopper to land, steep scarps all around so I can claim to be stuck. Make sure to run out of gas and don't mention fires. Also be sure to video everything, including the rescue - should make a great film!" Unfortunately, declaring the lake was good for a landing didn't work, so he only got to film the walk up the hill - in 'waist-deep snow' (not).
I doubt it would reflect negatively on his channel - hiker makes mistakes, gets stuck and calls for rescue. That's how it happens, and everyone knows it can happen to anyone, so the channel gets more subscribers, more views and more money. All publicity is good publicity, no?
What if the Garmin had failed when he needed it? He'd have lit a fire, boiled water, eaten plenty of the food he still had, hunkered down for the night and then got out the next day, either up to the road or back the way he'd come, following his trail. Then put together a film about "how I got stuck in the back-country but fought my way out against all odds".
Nope.. he just thought having rescue insurance meant he gets a free ride whenever he doesn't feel like giving it his all... 😅😅
Dude literally wouldn't even try. If it takes 3 days to climb that hill. Get to climbing. That's it.
He was never lost. He wasn't injured. No rescue necessary.
He wasn't rescued. He was escorted. But untrained non-hikers. And he's embarrassed as hell.
I remember mushroom hunting with small groups of people that would split up and occasionally get lost. I would meet them on the trail lost and in a panic. In that panicked state its impossible to think clearly. Unless you've been there you wouldn't understand.
I agree with your assessment. I think the guy just went in overconfident and probably got scared (justifiably) which then likely put him in the wrong state of mind. Walking over the lake? Ran out of fuel to cook your food? Doesn't make sense. That said, the sheriff's department mishandled it before, during and after the fact. Why would they ask him to move in the first place? You can't assume the person needing rescue is capable of assessing anything correctly. This could of turned bad very easily but luckily it didn't.
I've pointed out to a friend of mine that not making it to the top of a mountain for once would be a good spiritual exercise.
really the crux of this entire thing is, no matter how stupid this guy is, he screwed up and needed help, and the rescue team was probably the worst possible rescue team imaginable. not only that but they illegally doxxed this guy, and lied.
what a poor, poor public service. i cant imagine those guys have a good relationship with the people theyre meant to be serving and *protecting*
Worked as nurse for over 30 years on an emergency ward...Love the outdoors...About rescue someone...You always get to the victim of rescue no matter what degree of training you have...Never leave the person you are going to rescue...You person in distress always stay there you are...Stay warm...Avoid sweating...Liquids always more important than food...Always have 5 protein bars & soup packages for a possible rescue situation...Bring a rescue bivy. In winter time make shure you know how to make a fire on snow or ice. Bring a pole or make a stick to check out snow deep & ice condition. Save your energy!...Try not to panic..Don't rush things....Always take extra of time for all your actions...Never take risks you can avoid...Great video about surviving & how not to rescue someone...Love from Sweden...😍
publicly shaming someone for asking for help, makes people not want to ask for help when they may really need it.
Sorry if you took it that way, this was a point out to get training before you go out in bad conditions and Know you can survive on your own, he was fine even if it was just a sos for help to get back to his truck, self awareness and your limitations should tell you NOT to go into something your not ready for so when little things go wrong, your not freaking. if something gos wrong and your gut says hit it, hit it, the rest was a call out for the reaction of the responding units. no one should ever NOT hit a sos button BUT people should learn to be in the outback BEFORE they go, especially in IDAHO before you go out, do like a trial run or with a friend and make it like a "everything went wrong". hope that helps.
@@IdahosDeadpool that is all very true, but its still not good for the police to be publicly shaming someone, by name, for asking for help. As that can discourage others from asking for help.
@@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 I agree 1000000% on that!!!!!
I think your analysis of the situation is spot on, and I wholeheartedly agree with your opinions here. The biggest thing that stands out to me is that this guy went out into this situation unprepared to build a fire if he needed to.
He almost died in a forrest surrounded by snow (water and fuel), because he wasnt able to start a fire and melt snow with plan B equipment when his hightech stuff let him down
One bowl for melting snow on a fire
I live in rural CO. Our deputies make $20/hr. That's not a lot of reward to be asked to put your own life on the line to save idiot tourists. Our area has very low residential population density (low tax base) but high use from people coming up from the Front Range to recreate. LE and EMS in rural areas need better funding and better training without all the tax burden being put on the people who live here. Amazing we have trillions of tax/debt dollars to kill people and blow shit up all over the world on behalf of Israel, big oil, and the .01%, but can't afford LE and EMS at home.
i so agree with you! well said!
also at as hes walking across the lake hes got his gps out in the cold. batteries loose sooo much juice in the cold. keep that shit in ur pocket.
Very good insights!!! Very fair and balanced with actual knowledge ans skills. Such videos like yours are very importatnt part of the story. I myself am strugling to sort out who is right and who is wrong in this story, amd your experience in rescue and survival/hard tracking situations help a lot. I really appreciate. This deserve a lot more views! Also apreciate your SNR service, greetings from Europe.
He sounded really insincere, I know nothing about this sort of stuff but something deep down was telling me he was bullshitting for content.
You don't need special training to be a compassionate human being. 👎🏾
The trekker should've bailed when he saw the conditions weren't what he'd planned for. Big mistake. The "SAR" were callous and unprofessional. Humans are stupid. 🤡
for someone going into the back country without a lighter or matches? hes in the forest. if i was the police or rescue . I would be ashamed of my fellow man as well. I wonder if he even had a knife..
In the words of Dave Canterbury. "most confuse a survival situation for what is a inconvenient camping situation caused by lack of skills and knowledge and preparation" the guy was warm and dry had food and the abillity to stay hydrated he didint need emergency help he needed to be a real outdoorsman before heading out.
100% agree with your assessment here as someone who has worked in similar field.
Unprofessionalism from the rescue team. Overconfidence and a reality check for the youtuber.
Like you said people do weird things in a panic. Whats obvious to me - like using bodyheat to melt snow - isnt obvious to a person who's experiencing a panic.
Dude watched too many videos on the internet withought grasping the concept of fire. i shouldnt have to say more,
and at 25 mins walkin across the lake he could be using the opportunity to charge his equipment. Pure sun and the extra 5-10 percent more from reflection thats an xtra day of communication.
I don’t understand going into the woods with no idea how to make fire. I also would never travel with just a little water. He seems to follow the stupid ultra light type ideology. Meaning they don’t believe in carrying anything other then what’s needed. I’ve seen many think a compass was extra weight.
I don’t understand taking a trip like this without survival training. I believe these devices give untrained a false sense of safety. Maybe I’m just old we didn’t have things like this when I was young hiking an camping. I’ve camped in Idaho,Utah, New Mexico. Never felt cold like the high desert. I also believe in the buddy team. I believe this guy has good instincts he just lacks proper training. Really believe everyone should take a survival course an first aid. In Boy Scouts we always had refreshers. In the army I trained for every environment. I was part of Ranger school for 3 years.
Why wouldn’t he have another means of cooking like alcohol, I prefer a hobo stove. One is none two is one.
Can’t believe I didn’t see this month’s ago.
WHEN DEHYDRATION, EXAUSTION, AND FEAR HIT, THOUGHT IS NOT ALWAYS CLEAR.
NO MATTER HW MUCH TRAINING YOU HAVE.
BASICALLY HE BIT OFF MORE THAN HE COULD CHEW.
IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE EVEN JOE WOODSMAN.
Has someone that spends most of my time outside of work In the woods and back country I agree he’s not what I would call an outdoors man. Having said that I watched his video twice. And regardless of his experience or lack of experience I do think the two officers shouldn’t publicly ridiculed him like they did. And here’s why. This will only serves to dissuade people from pushing the inreach when it matters. His experience has absolutely zero to do with their lack of professionalism in this particular instance. They are after all paid police officers! To project and serve if my memory serves me right? People can debate whether or not Jonathan Conti should have done this or that till they are blue in the face. That’s totally irrelevant when it comes to the job they are clearly paid to do. To publicly humiliate this guy was totally and utterly disgusting! I’m stunned at the level they choose to post his name, job, address. They totally docs him! Imagine if this was your loved one? Would anyone want their loved one being do the way this poor guy was done? I would hope not? Like I said I’m afraid this will only serve to dissuade others that see this. When it should be the total opposite. In the end the two Idaho county deputies “ Keith Olsen and Stan Denham was unprofessional, and failed to make one of their own local citizens fill safe with reaching out for help. Through their actions others are placed in possible danger due to their actions that day. I wonder if their boss feels like they crossed a line when they chose to ridicule Jonathan?
I think this guy was in WAY over his head, and drastically overestimated his skills. The commenters on his video ripping law enforcement seem to be taking this guy's word for everything that happened. He's trying to cover his own shortcomings. Thank you very much for this video!
Imagine a trapper in the 1830’s clearly they were able to endure without technology (to include fabrics and garments, stoves etc…). And I’m sure it was a trial and many didn’t come home. Also perhaps they didn’t fully overwinter in the mountains, but they would have encountered the same, perhaps by surprise. Then let’s not leave the Indians either…. Our ancestors were pretty sturdy…
I think this guys analysis is pretty spot on. The ‘victim’ first and foremost needs a map reading class. Then skills that support contingencies (like the fire building).
These ancestors you are talking about had a life expectancy less than 40 years old, so I am sure few of them did not manage to deal with the challenges
Cops are like, we're not walking down that hill gettin our boots wet and we can just send a chopper later to get your body if we you freeze to death half way up the cliff. If there were a doughnut shop down there it'd be another story. It is lucky he didn't follow the cops direction. Those cops were completely irresponsible; speaks poorly for the state of Idaho.
1. He willingly went solo hiking/camping in winter conditions
2. He’s using snowshoes (without poles?), when skis are the obvious choice
3. His approach (Savage Pass -> Walton Lakes trail) is fairly long, about 7 miles, and he hiked farther cuz 360 road closed due to snow N of trailhead…probably 4-5 miles
4. The trail is moderate grade to lakes, there are no steep cliffs down to lake if your even close to being on route, the steep ground is to the W of lakes, the way he went out
5. He had plenty of food and water. He had an open stream right by his campsite. You don’t need hot water to eat an MRE, he didn’t need a fire
6. He’s young and in shape, almost certainly better shape than the sheriffs who came and got him. He could have simply walked back out the way he came in. There’s no steep ground that way, he was never trapped. It would’ve been a long hike, probably 11 miles or so, but easy grade
7. They got him via Tom Beal road, just above the lakes. He could’ve found his way out, it’s an obvious line to see
8. He was never hurt or injured, they were right to ask him to hike out. He never needed a “rescue” or helicopter he kept asking about. When they showed up, he hiked out with his stuff in a few hours, then they snowmobiled to their rig, and drove him to his car
9. It’s public record if the Sheriff rescues someone, by posting facts of case it may prevent someone from being as foolish as this fellow, they were doing a public service
10. He’s a YT content creator, but my guess is he didn’t want to hike back out cuz he was never in danger at all
Most of the video of the "2ft" of snow was likely from before it dumped ...just guessing
Nah man, dude got emotional in the video when telling that the rescue men where "mean" to him and basically didn't hug him when they found him. And that they only gave some kind of bar to eat, like he had been starving for a week or something. Just breaking balls, trying not to judge too much, and I'm glad he hit the SOS before he got in real trouble, but from his video I got the vibe he's not the kind of guy who's prepared, mentally and skill-wise, for that kind of "adventure"...
I watched this a while ago and got the impression he wanted to be rescued by a chopper for a cool video...
My impression was similliar, like he was entitled to press the rescue button and be rescued by chopper, because he was paying $50 a month subscription to Garmin ;)
@@podfuk Well you guys are awfully cynical. I think he just expected a somewhat more professional rescue.
@@andymason2 maybe it's just me, but If I was in the life threatening situation and was rescued, I would be grateful to rescuers no matter what. He survived after all didn't he? Only thing hurt was his ego...
I assume he was until they were jackasses about it.
@@andymason2 Jackass? They always make reports like this to warn others, ecpecially if they had to rescue him, and since he is public UA-camr and his name is the name of his channel, I dont see the problem at all. He should have made video about mistakes he made, not bitching about rescuers not being nice to him. They weren't even professional rescuers in the first place!
He said 2 days... But walked out in 2 hours.. 😅😅
He may have had hours of footage he didn't use. Strange to assume he only took those 2 short clips
If he hit the sos button with a broken leg... They would have called out a helicopter. Without doubt. Sos is just like calling 911... You don't decide how the response happens... The professionals decide that... He made an incorrect assumption that he was getting a free ride.. not realizing he's walking it regardless.
Took them one hour to hike down.. and hour to walk back out.
They were correct... He was thinking 2 days... It took an hour. 😂😂
HE WAS LOST OR NOT PREPARED FOR THIS ADVENTURE. HE WAS NOT INJURED OR SICK. THESE OFFICERS WERE NOT TRAINED PROFESSIONAL RESCUERS AND NOT ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT LOOKING FOR THIS ILL-PREPARED VICTIM WHO RAN OUT OF FUEL. THEY MIGHT OF THOUGHT THIS WAS A HOAX FOR YOU TUBING. GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE TRAINED PROFESSIONALS AND GARMIN SHOULD BE INFORMED ABOUT THIS RESPONSE.
This guy’s attitude to them rescuing him, after the info that he gave them (he was ok, had food, was mobile, etc) was one of arrogance. He was willing to take a lot of risks to get himself into that situation, yet wasn’t willing to take those same risks to help get himself out of it? Like, beggars can’t be choosers! I think this whole attitude he had is what caused the rescue law enforcement to react that way, albeit unprofessional. They’re the ones willing to risk their lives for a complete stranger, and yet he wasn’t even willing to risk his own life to help himself get out.
I commented on his site. He should not have been disrespected but he needs to learn from his mistakes. We've all made wilderness mistakes but you MUST have camping / survival skills if you're going to put yourself in a dangerous position. You don't put yourself in potentially deadly situations and expect others to rescue you from your lack of common sense. Hopefully, he's learned something. DON'T be the Donner party!
If everyone did what you say there would never be a need for SAR. But, sometimes even experienced ourdoorsman need help. Not everone sits on the couch all day, shit happens.
@@timgunderson3571 I'm sure all of us that have spent time in the wilderness have made mistakes. I know I have. I think the key is being aware of your shortfalls in skills and correcting it. I knew how to find tinder and squaw wood (smalls) in a wet / snow environment when I was 12. He should have been a Boy Scout lol. You've got to walk before you run.
The thing is, he wasn't even disrespected. They filed a factual report - that's it. He added all of the other drama himself, which didn't happen.
I saw that video, two things... That guy should have built a small wood fire to melt snow and cook his food. Also, if he had crampons or microspikes he could have simply walked out. But bad boots in a situation like that and I can see his point.
I'm a rural firefighter who has assisted in numerous search and rescue missions. I have observed that since a multitude of communications devices have appeared, many people purchase them with the expectation that pushing the SOS will bring an instant response of helicopters and large amounts of ground forces just like in an urban area. They believe a single push of the button is the solution for any emergency when the reality is rescues take time to accomplish safely for positive results.
I loved your " take " and appreciate it, and it made me think ... but I still think it might have been planned from the beginning. The FB post by the Sheriffs department was out of line and unprofessional. As far as him not recording that you mentioned ... maybe he just didn't post it. He obviously had some footage ... I believe he just didn't want too much for people to scrutinize and poke further holes in his story. No matter how you slice it, he is definitely an utter fool, and possibly a shameless POS. BTW ... I posted a rather lengthy comment on his post stating as much and calling him out on some of his BS ... It was deleted in less than 2 minutes !
thats the thing with outdoor stuff. If everything goes well common sense will get you through it. With hardly any experience/gear.
He was ill prepared for sure. Bringing just one gas bottle and more important: No backup fire solution. Having a lighter would be a good start, but even that can get wet. Not saying you need to know how to make a fire with a fire steel if you set your foot out the door, but if you go into a remote location where you can be cut off for days, then have a plan, a backup and a backup for the backup. He got himself into a survival situation without any survival skills.
If it was so serious - you have ways to melt snow without a fire and those dry meals don't need boiling water. Sure it tastes better if hot, but to not starve cold water is perfectly fine.
In the end - no point in grieving about it, even as non professionals. He surely learned from his mistakes and if I look back at my 20s, I did a lot of dumb shit.
when he said he ran out of fuel so he couldn't cook his food...he lost me.
Exactly, he's in the woods with tons of firewood everywhere by a lake. Kind of retarded tbh
I think if he had skis and skins it would be easier to get that mileage...
Ha - so glad to find this. Pretty much my thoughts, and I just said as much under his video - but I thought I was the only one. Good to know it's not just me!
Would you consider teaching him winter wood skills?
there is a lot of guys that do that and many outfitters in his area that could as well :)
Honestly, I think he can sue the police department for defamation.
Lol dude moans about a 25 min vid then makes a 44 min one for a reaction vid
Good Luck with your UA-cam career!
Comment from somebody who knows both Deputies--
One was my Hunter's Safety instructor. He was in charge of the County SAR at that time. He's been chasing all over the mountains in winter for decades. A job like this is irritating because it takes them away from their regular work. But it is their job. The Sheriff has to account for missing persons--dead or alive.
My best guess is, they were saying something like, "This guy calls for a helicopter so that he doesn't need to climb a hill. Hope he enjoys the bill!"
Idaho County DOES have a Search and Rescue team. It is mainly the Sheriff's Deputies, and a lot of fair-weather people like me who have to be to work at 8 on Monday.
Why they posted this on Facebook is beyond me. It could have been in the Idaho County Free Press as front-page news, or it could have been listed in the Sheriff's log.
Professionalism is worth a lot. So is woodsmanship.
Seems this guy didn't think to build a fire? That would have solved everything. Chop a hole in the ice and go fishing.
Very convenient that he decided to make camp...right next to a building! 15:05
lol didnt notice that, but YA it looks like a small cabin or shed. LOL
good video
I am pretty sure he has a bunch of footage. This is his second time out in that area.
Here's the video from spring,
ua-cam.com/video/u6QOdgCiGUc/v-deo.html
His after hike review, where he responded to someone mentioning that an emergency chopper would have made a good video...
ua-cam.com/video/U1y3wTYvEuM/v-deo.html
Maybe you guys can do a live chat? ;)
OH dam!
Fire is essential!
They're not trained for search and rescue but if rescue is effectively part of their job, they, at the very least, need to take it seriously when it happens. I think those cops ought to be fired if all they're gonna do is bitch and moan and talk shit on Facebook (and, I guess, in their report), when the dude's only a mile from the road.
Did you actually see what they wrote? They didn't talk shit at all, they simply made a factual report on what happened. After he lied to them about his situation and did all of this simply to make a video, they have every right to be salty anyway. What if someone else ACTUALLY needed help during the time they were screwing with him?
@UhYeahWhateverDude This is such a dumb take. You can criticize the hiker all day, and some of it is definitely justified, but in the context of his skill level and circumstances he *was* in trouble.
Sure, if he knew how to make a fire in the snow, and had better prepared his route, and been able to find his trail in those conditions, then he would've been fine with the food he had and all of his gear.
But the fact is if he doesn't have the aforementioned skill/preparation, then he is in actual trouble and needs help. Hikers die all the time with food and water still in their packs because of situations just like this.
@@deepspace9043 @deepspace9043 I guess you have not watched his other video then, because he DOES know how to make a fire in the snow (he does it in a video!), and he does have the know-how. He is just a shameless asshole looking for views at any expense.
You can continue to defend his honor with every person who wrote a realistic comment on here though, I'm sure he appreciates it.
Crazy his vids usually average a few thousand views. A handful around 10k
This vid over 800k views
I agree, I dont think he’s trying to get the views, but he got em 😂
Definitely should have been more knowledgeable and equipped for this
He hit it for views man...2 miles from a trail...and if he could walk and wasn't hurt...he can get to the trail...
Thank you. Someone who will finally tell the truth. Shameless ploy for views is all it was.
The problem wasn't that he couldn't *walk* to the trail, the problem was he couldn't find it. You have clearly never been in the backcountry in thick snow - trails can be almost impossible to identify
@@deepspace9043 Looks like it all went to plan then. He managed to find the trail all the way to the second lake, but suddenly couldn't find it anymore, conveniently at a great place for a chopper to land. 🤔
this guys a big baby
and at 27 minute im thinkin. we have a guy, who doesnt know how to make a fire, has plenty of food, seems like a good kid., no way im spending money on heli e vac. lol. he needs to learn a valuable, repeat! VALUABLE lesson right now. lol. and all they gave me was a cliff Bar?/ bro,, this aint Disneyland. are they ur mommy?
once i at Raw wheat berries. and you have MREs? add some flippen snow and start chomping dude.
im mean. sorry. participation ribbons for everyone. but no participation ribbon when u choose to head out like this. if ur not wild. get wild.
Even if this guy was over exaggerating himself and being stupid going into the bowl. The officers should have been nicer and in any situation if someone is saying the need help then you shouldn’t say how it’s only 2 feet of snow you should just go help them. Also it wasn’t the officers that were really in the wrong. The garmen he pays 50 dollars a month to use should have actually sent a real rescue team instead of just calling the local police station.
Here's him starting a fire in snow....
ua-cam.com/video/A7v6BY3bZqA/v-deo.html
Hummm, interesting, the female made it but it sounds like he has at least watched many times, so he should have a idea of how... Thank you for the link!
@@IdahosDeadpool that's his wife, but yeah I am assuming he knows also.
@@sk8moto OH wow,, ya what you found in those videos, donst look good for him!
You should have taken the time to watch the entire video by Jon Conti. For starters, the "rescue" team had no search and rescue experience. They were untrained police officers. And they told Jon to hike up the 1000' cliff. Jon was experienced and his rescue team wasn't. It sounds like you are only concerned with telling us about your experience in the woods. This isn't about you and it isn't about Jon. It's about what happens when you hit the SOS button on a Garmin device. The clear message is that it's a crap shoot. You could get inexperienced help like the two guys who showed up to help Jon and told him to break trail up a 1000' cliff. Try to show a little passion next time you do one of these critiques.
He wasn't lost... He wasn't hurt.. he wasn't out of food or water.
He thought having rescue insurance meant he gets to call a helicopter for whatever reason he wanted.. even if there is no real emergency. When the reality is.. he would be stuck with the bill... Because there was no EMERGENCY. 😂😂
You only need to stay put... When you are lost. He was never lost.
He simply panicked. Didn't try to make a fire.. no butane isn't an emergency. 🤣
Complete lack of basic outdoorsman skills.
The officials read the situation correctly. No helicopter was necessary. They walked him out while still in daylight... (Less than 2 hours) in regular police uniforms..😅😅
Mad they didn't bring him a hot meal.. 🤣 they knew he was going to be out in an hour or two. No food necessary.
And they didn't dox him. It's all public record. And perfectly normal to inform them public of such "rescue" situations.. because the news would pick up on it anyway.
He wouldn't even try to zig zag to the hill... Afraid he wouldn't make it before dark. It's snow.. you can see at night pretty well.. if you don't make it.. stomp out a pad in the snow and sleep on the side of the hill...
Completely unprepared and lacking skill.
Packing loose snow in the cup... Instead of ice or packed snow.. 🤣
Eat the food dry if necessary.
Whole thing is embarrassing
Donner, party of one LOL!
It's not correct that he should have stayed where he was...
He WASN'T LOST... He wasn't injured.
The sheriff's department got it correct. He got the assistance he requested. Efficiently.
Regardless of the SOS button.. the information he shared with Garmin and the sheriff's department made it very clear that he was not in need of an ACTUAL RESCUE response... At all.
Very clear.
You keep saying he's lost. He was never lost. He was in un-confident. That's it.
Them moving a couple logs on the ski trail is irrelevant. 😂😂
Sure. Everything points that he had planned the whole thing. Taking time to film, place the tripod; make the shoot. Get the tripod. One gas canister for a « week in winter » ? 😂
34;37, i this some kind of uber or garmin taxi service? maybe one of the guys has a friendly banjo and they can sing coombiya? the nerve of this guy. i know im harsh. so is falling through the ice, and all the ankle biters. this guy!
typical victim blaming it seems.