How to Beat the SHIMMER in "ANNIHILATION"
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If a meteorite impacted the Earth creating an expanding iridescent bubble that caused the death of anyone who entered, what would you do?
In this requested How to Beat video, we’ll follow the scientists, see if we can make better decisions, and ultimately attempt to beat the Shimmer in, Annihilation.
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Why raid lol
Raid is that desperate
Raid is dumb lol
Nope I refuse to download raid!
@@indevious9659 money, why not?
"Eh fuck it, this ain't gettin' nowhere. Send in the randoms."
-The US military in 90% of movie situations.
Seriously though where is the military in all this aside from the random army dudes
@@BobtheHat movie magic 🙄 duh
Technically not in 90% of films. 90% of films would have put soldiers in. This is just more generic girl power shortsightedness in script and cast...
Them the last 10 percent of the time:
“ G R E A T
G O O G L Y
M O O G L Y
I T S
A L L
G O N E
T O
S H I T
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1%: secret governmental organization: our time has come.
Like how anytime there is a survival situation, NE always finds a way to bring up cannibalism
I think he's trying to tell us something 🤔 😂
Ok im not a canibal, but that body seems pretty good since we ran out of food...
*He
@@_Krist00F_ NE = Nerd Explains
@@_Krist00F_ lol
For anyone curious, the psychologist is much more important in the book and aids the group in crossing the border of the shimmer by putting them under hypnosis, and there’s an entire arc where the biologist inhaled fungus spores which makes her immune to the psychologists mind control, and she starts to notice some extreme corruption. And in the book, none of the characters have names, they’re just named off of their jobs. Excellent book trilogy, I love it!!
Love the first book but I'm still finishing the rest but honestly I prefer the books story but love the look of the film, some of the changes just seemed unnecessary.
@@DragonflyandTheWolf What does this comment even mean?
@@SozBoz Let me break it down: Book good. Book better. Book biologist good. Movie biologist bad.
Hypnosis is bs. The book sounds dumb.
@@danielrussell4500 you will suspend your disbelief for a movie about a shimmering alien bubble, but not even a little bit for a fictional book that briefly involves hypnosis? got it..
The Shimmer was a higher dimensional being trying to understand a lower dimensional world. This is why it could teleport. After copying the protagonist, i think it learned what she knew, and so it destroyed itself and the lighthouse after understanding that it had hurt people without intending to. It also healed her husbands clone for the same reason.
agreed, and it never directly hurt anyone. Yes it mutated the genome o creatures and humans but never directly to hurt them just simply the way it was. The scientist and marine died from a mutated bear not controlled by the shimmer, the lady who turned into a plant even excepted it in a beautiful way. This thing wasn't intentionally just curious with wierd phenomena.
i think it destroyed itself by mimicking her fire thus destroying itself
If it’s trying to understand a whole dimension, how and why do you think it has a concept of human morality, let alone care about it? It would then have a awareness, thus conscience, and want to prioritize its own survival naturally, as it should already have that instinct since it in-codes DNA from other predatory animals prior to this moment.
@@zero.9831 if it developed such a thing, then it would've developed a sense of compassion, thus, if it learned it was hurting people when it never intended to, the horrors felt by our protagonist, then it would make sense why it did so. Not everything is selfish towards self preservation even when you know life is precious. Kindness, compassion and selflessness takes more balls than saving your own skin. Soldiers do everything to save their people and even civilians even if it means sacrificing their own. basic training creates that bond of brotherhood or sisterhood that you would do everything to save your people. Seeing as how it basically replicated our MC, I'm guessing it also understood that kind of bond together with morals and compassion that it copied from humanity that it decided to destroy itself knowing it was bringing more harm than good
If this were the case, this would have happened when it copied Kane.
Bruh half the movie is just him roasting Ventress about being a phycologist.
Pyschologist*
I think it makes more sense whys she's pyschologist in the book.
@@aubrey5577 Piscologist*
@@coyraig8332 polsalgamist
@@packerjack87 misogynist.
"Were trapped in a room togeth-"
Nerd explains: cannibalism
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@@cocopuffs4990 cokie
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Nerd Explains, NE, Neutral Evil
Coincidence? I think not
Am I the only one who considers the bear section with them tied up to be one of the most terrifying movie experiences ever? Like, you know its the bear even when you dont bc her voice is distorted and on top of that, theyre so helpless that its just crazy terrifying how the bear comes in and murders the crap out of the one girl.
It's so SO good!
@@diy_cat9817 this guys channel has become my favorite movie descriptory channell
Tbh it’s one of the best horror scenes I’ve ever seen
Why would you be the only one lol
They had guns and should have enough common sense to not get outsmarted by a very primitive 4-legged beast. I was cheering for the bear at that point.
I kind of found Jossie's death one of the more peaceful ones there... She knew what was going to happen, she chose to leave willingly, and didn't look like she was in excruciating pain, as far as I can remember.
She becomes a rhododendron
Sure beats having a giant mutant bear tearing you to pieces and you living on in some messed up way inside it.
Well, the idea of self harm was already implanted in her, maybe it stemmed from some deep rooted childhood trauma, and even though she decided to branch out of the mission objective, Josie is the only one who really blossomed through the events in the shimmer.
@@Pantherazure😏
@@Pantherazure So many puns 😭
Shark Crocodile hybrid: Chases and trys to kill everyone
Psychologist: But how does that make you feel?
The hybrid: *hapy*
I think its more of a leech crocodile, since both of them are found in the swamps i think
I mean the shimmer combines you with the nearest things or smth i actually dont know
Sounds like an immature 682. Alert the containment teams and send in a mobile task force.
The sharkgator in Jarasic park: am I a joke to you
No seriously their was a sharkgator in Jarasic park
“You’ll either turn out as wall art, bear shit or have mutated so much, so fast that your self will cease to exist”
Decisions decisions
I would just shoot my self in the head and try to burn my body so I can’t because part of what ever the duck is that
@@randomgreek5682 you mean like what Kane did with the white phosphorus grenade? I’d do that before I had a sudden twin if I was him.
I'd say I'd go with the last option there. Mutated so much that my past self ceases to exist COULD mean me getting turned into a godlike entity, so if I'm gonna die anyways I'm rolling that dice.
@@dontkickmychick6076 That’s your call, but I’d say me and Willie Pete will go out on my terms.
@@_JustSomeDude_ that wasn't on the list tho now was it
19:53 quick minor correction: that’s actually an M240B. It packs a way heavier punch than the M249 and judging by the creatures within the shimmer, you’ll definitely need that extra punch
thankfully someone else noticed that I was doing homework and just looked at the gun when he said they found it was like "huh nice a 240" then he said "249 saw " and I was like "am i the crazy one??"
Definitely an m240B
Thank you, I was about to put this comment myself
Same goes for when they kill the croc and he says it's an AR.
The shimmer genetically changed it to a 249.
The screaming bear thing really left me unsettled. It was one sick mutation
Pretty much, since you could hear the woman’s screams echoing in the bear’s roaring
Y'know if this actually happens everybody is gonna freak out,then you know there's gonna be that one guy who says "Don't worry guys I've watched nerd explains."
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Underrated tbh
Yep
I like how he gives dumb people advice that will end up killing them. I like that he is thinning the herd.
Lol that's what I would say
Everyone watching this: Just in case
You can never be too careful
Well, whatll i do when my city gets covered with a bubble?
Yup
Yup
Why I'm watching this: Please tell me I'm not the only one who thought these characters were idiots.
My favorite part about this movie is it captures the visuals of a mushroom trip almost perfectly. The shimmer, colors, patterns, the contrast between horizontal leaves and vertical moss and vines, everything so colorful and vivid. Really great
This was a ripoff of HP Lovecraft's Color out of Space, a better story.
@@titoizdaman3 it was literally a different story entirely. Not exactly comparable
@@benny_lemon5123 the premise was ripped off completely. Don't see why you're running to defend a crappy movie...
Lol so true. Doing mushrooms in the dark in the woods is otherworldly. Everything is just writhing at your feet, like snakes covering the forest floor.
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
When dealing with something unknown, dangerous, supernatural and potentially world ending, I would ALLWAYS have a psychologist on the team. Nobody deals with things like these without an existential crisis
And we shouldn't ignore the importance of having someone who knows how to keep everyone calm and grounded in the case of an emergency... Well, she would have, if she had been a good psychologist.
And that kids, is why the Foundation uses D-Class with a rope around the waist. Entirely expendable, yet oddly dependable.
Edit: Lmao at how many times NE roasts the doctor
Ya but there a different the scp foundation is smart this movie humans are stupid and all together have the brain of 1 human
The scp foundation is 4 parallel universes ahead of these nutjobs
How about the MTF sir?
The shimmer is Euclid class at best.
@@ferdinandb.s8975 Realistically speaking MTF teams cost money-- lots of money (e.g. the IRL version of the replica GPNVGs used in SCP Overlord retail for 40k USD).
Lore wise, the foundation does try to do whatever they can to limit the amount of MTF casualties taken on any operation (hence D-class on a string). It's just a matter of statistical likelihood that constantly encountering eldritch horrors is going to result in some dead bodies. Some SCPs (especially old ones like 906 or angry lizard) are written to be unkillable, but are also openly hostile. So of course no matter how smart you make the Foundation in those stories, they lose a ton of highly trained personnel.
But other than that, if we need to place some rats in a cage just inside the shimmer? D-boys. Need to take some quick video? D-boy on a string. Stick a shovel in the dirt to get some soil samples? D-boys on a string. Looking back on it, 95% of all actions the characters--of which like 3 had PhDs--in Annihilation performed (outside of giving us exposition) required zero special training beyond knowing how to use a microscope, and which end of a rifle goes bang.
Moral of the story? Don't let a psychologist choose who goes into the death cloud to do basic science shit. D-boys all the way man.
" Ohh there is mutated and alien stuff, let's all just touch it bare hands". That is literally "Homer Simpson liks an Uranium rod" kind of stupid...
I'd say drunk Homer on 3AM getting out of Moe's and driving to buy a plane for around 1mil is smarter than this nutjobs on this movie
The second they stepped in, they were dead. What’s the point in trying to stay away from the environment when you are literally walking INTO it? It’s like wearing socks in the bath so your feet don’t get wet. They didn’t even know if there was gravity in there: or light. It’s quite literally a suicide mission.
Or Prometheus?
Grammatically it is supposed to be "an Uranium rod" but it just sounds wrong, while "a Uranium rod" sounds better but is grammatically incorrect. english why
@@jaguar_8344 they didnt even know if they could get out
thats what really doesnt make sense, they have an alien territory where nobody who has entered has come back alive
and yet they dont even test for it
8:02 didn't Lena have military experience though?
29:23 I think the reason the clone sets everything on fire is because Lena's being had refracted onto the alien, perhaps even her thoughts and mind. So the clone then made the decision to destroy the shimmer because the part of the clone that was Lena wanted the clone to do that.
Pretty sure it's as simple as the alien essentially being a newborn child. It didnt panic because it felt no pain, but when it began sensing that it was dying it sought out safety by retreating home to its birthplace inside the hole.
If everyone failed to come back out while tryingto investigate, after one or two teams wouldn't you change tactic and see if someone can come back at all? For example heres a full hazzmed suit and a harness with attached lanyard walk in and come right back! If possible then try to get a sample in the immediate area and come back right away. Keep increasing time and studying the people as they come back untill you build up a picture of what is going on.
they can expend civilians and personnel but not 100 feet of rope
@@-JaggedGrace- human lives are cheap but a mile of chain is expensive i guess
Finally someone said it
“We don’t know what happened to him”
*PROCEEDS TO WALK IN WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION FROM POSSIBLE AIRBORNE PATHOGENS*
Edit: I haven’t seen this much stupidity since “Alien: Covenant” where they walked onto a previously undiscovered planet without any protection because “there’s oxygen”.
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He was also profusely coughing up blood and shaking like a leaf in a hurricane on the way to the CIA Black Site. Ehhh! No bother! He *looks* clean. So he *is* clean! What wonderful movie logic.
@@adamgray1753 It's a sci-fi movie. It's not supposed to be realistic.
Thank you, @@juicebox3216, for missing the entire point of what Misfited Misfit and I posted.
Horror movie logic
Am I the only one when thinks the visuals in this movie are absolutely beautiful?
That soldier in the pool might have been horrific, but I think it's one of the most beautiful things in the movie.
ok.
This is one of my favorite cosmic horror movies!
The bear is amazing.
Same, it's beautiful
It really is. They brought in the artist Alex Grey for the final scene with her doppleganger and had a choreographer direct the 'copy' movements.
The concept of this movie has always been extremely interesting to me, particularly the idea of never knowing if the characters were copies created by the shimmer or not since days of the story are missing from the presentation, which means they could've already been replaced.
When it comes to "beating" it though... I think humans probably have little chance since the story obviously presents the shimmer as being an attempt by aliens or even extra-dimensional beings far more advanced than us of changing earth to their liking... and knowing what i said earlier about how it can seem to copy and mutate (and ultimately replace) ANYTHING that enters it's borders very quickly, the only real solution i think would be for humans to nuke that whole area or even glass the continent it appears on if we'd hope to survive it's effects, because even if you can't stop the actual shimmer, you could just remove all things for it to change and effect, essentially removing it's "food source" like how you'd have to handle the flood from Halo.
I don't know why but in all the articles and videos I've seen about this movie, no one ever talks about the fact her "husband" and his doppelganger are making the video before he kills himself, one of them (presumably the actual husband) has a pronounced southern drawl while the one behind the camera doesn't (nor did the one that came back).
because every part of this film is nonsense. you can only talk about so much
Don’t their eyes have the same hue in the end frame?
Nerd Explains: "I'm probably gonna end up eating this guy...
Cinema Summary: And that was his first mistake."
Honestly I still prefer Nerd over Cinema. My mans got a sense of humor.
My opinion, cinemas solutions always require more skill to complete than nerd’s solutions
@@foxcheetah6035 both. Both are good
The ultimate crossover
Nerd is more funnier funny cinema is more entertaining
To me, the most unrealistic thing in this movie was the fact that Nathalie Portman’s character would ever in her right mind cheat on someone as handsome and charming as Oscar fucking Issacs.
You never know.
Looks don't matter when you're significant other is gone for months at a time, you don't know if they'll come back, and you're lonely.
Oscar is gay.
@@SmootherThanSilk no excuse. If Im committed to someone I'd wait my entire fucking life so don't sit here and say it's justified because she's "lonely". She never loved him, if you love someone you don't do shit like that. Ever.
@@SmootherThanSilk I genuinely hope u never get married, and if u do I hope ur husband/wife never has to leave for more then a weekend for his/her own sake
I always thought that Lina transfered her self destructive nature to the shimmer, as represented by the grenade, and that's why it destroyed itself.
18:52 I just realize that in this universe, due to the circumstances of the shimmer, manbearpig can and likely does exist.
I’m super cerealz
Everyone knows global Manbearpig doesn’t exist!
@@folieadeux147what is manbearpig
@@an-animal-lover type it into the youtube search box
@@an-animal-loverI think it’s a red dead 2 reference
@@danielko1099 huh
God that bear screaming in that womens voice gave me goosebumps
mhm
Added with that skeletal face, I was curled up in ball in my bed just from watching it move and somewhat interacting with them
@@viperhunter7951 indeed
I had to pause that scene, take a dump (solid, triple log), grab some more snacks and come back to watch as the bear thingemebob started mauling the Latina chica. Great scene.
"Black hole" ambient ft. Moderat gives much more
"The book is better!"
In this case, it is, and it's even more unbeatable than the movie.
Book
it is better, read it immediately after the movie.
Just wondering, how does the book play out?
@@cursivebobcat8964 First one is confusing as heck at times, mostly the imagery, but I think that's what makes it unique, since you only know as much as the character and even they have a hard time describing this alien force they've encountered. I've only gotten through half of the second book, and it's pretty slow and more focused on the political intrigue aspect. Overall you'll just keep reading it because you NEED the answers, so whether you like it or not you're hooked regardless.
@@soxrocker04 also it explains why a psychologist is in charge. I'm excited. Are you excited, too?
I think who visited her in the beginning was not Kane, or at least too morphed to be recognized. To me it seemed like the whole point was that the gene splicing between all DNA was uncontrollable, even behaviourally, the bear scene was to demonstrate the behavorial and sound similarities transferred. The burning of Kanes body was to show he understood this transfer and that any case of dangerous humanoid crossing over would unavoidably take over his last actions and burn itself to death. Thus the only way of beating it, which they did.
This opens the door to the understanding of an underlying intelligence that had this strategy worked out to take over worlds, or something like that. That it was not random.
The ending where they both had the shimmer in their eyes went completely against this, this was only a flirt with a well repeated thing in the endings of horror movies, where they show “oh know it lived on”. It was very fluidly fantasized, the script. I think a part of it is the open interpretation, while the script writer probably was high and had quite a clear story to tell.
If entering the shimmer causes you to lose days of consciousness, then dropping or (especially) flying into the center of it would've been a disaster.
they only lost memories after a few days of exposure so not necessarily
Something important that wasn't mentioned is that most of the humans didn't make it out alive because they already set their mind that they were going to die. Thats how Lena survived so long because she set her mind on returning and maybe her husband came out because he still loved her.
So any human that decided they wanted to be Jesus got to be Jesus nice: mind over matter of we are going all out
Many people still love the ones who hurt them, maybe he wanted to go back to be able to communicate with her about what happened in their marriage, and that what drove him through the Shimmer.
The Shimmer in the books is kinda meant to be a passage of sorts. A metaphor for internal growth and change. As the Shimmer changes one from the inside out,.
@@lilweedsea I think its exactly that why he survived, even though he killed himself
Is that her husband or the clone??
At the beginning Lena suggests her husband Kane has suffered some radiation or viral exposure.. so their team goes marching in with no protective gear.. but they are all carrying rifles. They aren't even carrying oxygen..
There was a point made that they all had suicidal tendencies, and were granted access with this in consideration because of the slim survival chances on this operation.
Even the commander, because of her guilt over all of the previous teams she had sent to their deaths.
@@Wavemaninawe But that makes no sense though, they may have suicidal tendencies, but they still want to get to the bottom of this shit. If they really wanted to die that much, they wouldn't be putting up night watches (the psychologist standing watch for an example) or try to fight off the "bear".
@@Wavemaninawe yeah thats not really an excuse. This isn't even about surviving is just about being efective. If they wanted to kill themselves that badly then they should just use a rope or a gun, this is just too force, let alone dumb. Why would the governmwnt send people this stupid or suicidal? Doesn't make aby sense
@@Wavemaninawe If they where truly like that, they would have sh0t themselves as soon as they where given guns.
@@Wavemaninawe weak logic here, really weak
Not a whole lot of stuff disturbs me, I grew up when the internet was the Wild West, I've seen videos I should have never seen. But for some reason, the scene with the bear unnerves me in a way I just can't put my finger on. It stayed with me a long time.
I think most people who've seen it agree that is one of the creepiest things in any movie ever
what im surprised by is that no one thought of using analog tracking, like a bread crumb trail or something like that, a simple rope wouldve been enough, hell markers with color ribbons wouldve been good too
The smartest people in the world that shimmer takes place in: lets throw people at it
One youtuber: solves all of the problems they couldn't in 3 years
wdym smartest people, this is in America. It harldy has 40% smart people
@@Chacalot i think you added 1 to many 0's
Did you mean 4%?
Dude fuckin solved it like an scp. Every possible option is taken
is it me or is the shimmer wall right next to there camp like o know my electonics arent working right LeTs Go DeApEr InTo ThE BlOb
Well, it is sort of a captain hindsight situation. In this movie they were indeed incredibly stupid, but still.
25:20 that bear with the vocal cords is honestly terrible. I would just off myself if I knew that thing existed in even the same universe as me, and it begging for help makes it so much worse.
Agreed. Probably the scariest animal I’ve ever seen in a film
Its even scarier when you realize there are two possibilities:
A. The bear only assimilated her vocal cords, and using genetic memory to replicate her last noise she made, used those noises to attract prey that would respond to the distress call.
B. The bear assimilated her entirely and there is enough of her alive that she is calling for help
I mean with the universe being as big as it is, something similar probably exists
@@onomstarr you see her dead body later on with its vocal cords ripped out.
@@onomstarr A partial human head *is* on the side of the bear's head so... oh shit...
The Fulton extraction method has to be an absolute nightmare and a blast at the same time going from zero to whatever the plane is doing in no time at all has got to be jaring on the human body
Honestly, I can empathise with the psychologist. For 3 years she observed, sent in teams and just tried to understand this thing… and the entire time she got absolutely nothing, not even a lead on what might be happening. She knew the thing was growing, she knew she was going to die regardless (not mentioned here but she was terminally ill that’s why she went in) and by extension she knew that if nothing could be done the world would eventually be taken over and destroyed. Knowing all that will happen (as far as she’s concerned) is enough to break people. No wonder they were so unprepared and sent in seemingly weird choices. They were so beaten they just didn’t care.
Well... in the books they observed the shimmer for 30 years actually and get little knowledge about it, it could get worse....
@@carlosmartinsjr3602
And in the books, all that fancy tech like drones and sensors and environment suits and modern high-tech military gear whatnot? The Shimmer just points and laughs at it, at best.
A harness and rope would have cut those 3 years down severely lol.
Natalie Portman: *Husband dies but comes back*
Me: "Hey, I've seen this one"
Also how do you use a Drone? They are slow and unstable. So you can't use one to explore the shimmer.
@@TacticalPhoenixYT Are you okay?
@@TacticalPhoenixYT What is your logic here
@@TacticalPhoenixYT drones are semi fast. Also very stable too
I think you heard of a drone but don't know how to use it.
brothers movie?
You're telling me it's only RAID's second birthday? I feel like I've been seeing those ads for decades.
Lmao right?
I swear omg
Fr
If I hear one more *'RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!'* ad, then i'm jumping out of my window lol
@@jadenjoestar3927 are you in a hospital now?
They need a 100 ft long horizontal communication antenna so it will be inside the Shimmer and outside the Shimmer to pass signals through
This story was so cool as far as potential story goes but major plot holes like the one you mentioned. Can't send cables into it? No robots first? How are any of these individual things happening? How is she turning into a bush? Why is the dead bear now alive? Why is it acting nothing like a bear? Immitation doesn't solve these questions.
a cable. Just hard line it.
Ok so, i just got a crazy idea, why dont they get a plane and have somone skydive out of it withh one of thise glider suits and glide them in to the lighthouse
As far as I know, electrons going through wires and the surrounding electromagnetic field are interconnected, so if the electromagnetic field is disturbed, then the electricity itself will be, too. The connection between the two is why electricity travels at the speed of light despite electrons themselves being much slower.
She only admits to 2 deaths the other 2 she just says "I don't know"
Killed by a bear
Killed by a bear
Turns to flowers
Turns into mandlebulb morphs into an exact replica of lena
Need Explains: **talks about what to do with a black bear**
Me: *”if it’s brown, lay down, If it’s black, fight back and if it’s white, say goodnight.”*
No, just say good day and the white bear will let you go for being polite and having good manners.
If it's head looks like a dead rat just run and hope he's stupid enough to let you run away
Edit: he's not stupid he mimic the voice to trap u
Oh fuck
If it's yellow, give it honey!
If it’s named after our star… give it the AR
Yeah we have all seen that, any bear can kill you so those aren't guarantees.
Honestly, this is the one movie where just nuking the thing might have worked.
Agreed lmao, but honestly studying it instead of being idiots around it would make it so much better!
No it wouldn't have, in fact it would have made it worse. Nuclear fusion + Alien eldertrich presence/atmosphere would only lead to worse things. There was literally nothing we could realistically do if something like this would happen
@@averagedcenjoyer8450 That sounds unnecessarily pessimistic, the video clearly shows the movie didn't even thought to try what actual researchers would do, movies tend to overreact things too much people start thinking humans would actually just do nothing in situations like those.
@@ped3752 I mean, you are right, buy nuking it would only make it worse, most likely. I doubt that the governments would even try to interact with something like that tbh. Let's be real the main characters only won because the directors wanted them to, same with many movies. Tho in a realistic case we would only be sending in rats, so yeah. Most movies tend to be unrealistic because, well who would want to watch 2 hours of rats moving randomly?
@@averagedcenjoyer8450 While i agree nuking the area might not be the best there's not much evidence that it wouldn't do anything too, and the argument that just because something is realistic it doesn't mean it's boring, this is just an excuse because it's way more simpler to just say "Lol ghost" or "lol Eldritch monster" than to actually work towards a narrative and details that expands on those settings, but yeah the ending was pretty shit the only thing this movie had were the visuals.
Nobody ever mentions how Anya is all happy go lucky about a suicide mission and then the absolute millisecond someone dies, she turns into a sadistic murderer and fabricates a conspiracy about there being no bear. As if the lena could have killed someone instantly and hide the body and break a bear sized hole in a fence without moving.
Anya got possessed by the plot.
....or the plot literally explained that the Shimmer could cause people to go insane?
@@98loud that's convenient for the plot but it's not a good excuse
@@nobodyimportant4778 if a movie says "this person is bulletproof, and they get shot and the bullets bounce off, is that "not a good excuse" for them to survive?
@@98loud nice strawman. That's called shooting your monks. This is just creating an excuse in advance to create artificial conflicts and eliminate characters later in ways that say nothing about them as a character. Insanity doesn't just replace you with a different person that shares nothing in common with you.
Characters are not people. People die pointless random deaths after being hit by a car or getting a disease. Characters die in a way that concludes their arc or someone else's.
If she were a character established beforehand to be distrustful or if the story were about themes of people being untrustworthy, then yes, her sudden total replacement of personality would be good writing and comperable to bullets bouncing off superman.
Ironically, the story IS about themes of having your memories being fake and not knowing who you are, which would have perfectly justified her nonsensical serial killer behavior AND been perfect for the story, but no. She's just generic hollywood crazy and just HAPPENS to zero in on Lena. (Definitely not because she's the protagonist and the story was getting slow)
@@nobodyimportant4778 "creating an excuse in advance" is a handwave that can be applied to any kind of foreshadowing or establishment of abilities. I could easily say that saying someone is bulletproof is an excuse for them to be in more harrowing situations later without taking damage.
Have you never been paranoid in your entire life? Paranoia can easily make people act out of character. A reasonably normal person can become a nervous wreck if suffering from paranoia. People have killed others as a result of drug induced paranoia - and why should the Shimmer be any less potent than an earth made drug?
And to get this straight, you'd prefer characters be written like characters in a storybook as compared to real people? I personally prefer characters to have stories like real people, you don't have to have a concise beginning middle and end for a good story, especially in the horror genre. That's archaic thinking and puts you into a box. Even outside of horror, something like Pulp Fiction flies in the face of this, because its characters are written like real people. Vincent dies a random, meaningless death. But it's justified because of his character and his environment. Similarly, Anya is a damn paramedic facing down an otherworldly, incomprehensible threat that has a record of causing paranoia and you expect her not to succumb to that?
If you want to be this cynical and unfun, her being paranoid was more of an excuse for the bear thing to show off its vocal chords, and to have a suspenseful scene where they can't run away. If they just wanted excitement, they could've just thrown the bear at them and had it kill Anya, they hadn't really revealed it at all yet.
The way they moved 22:20 was creepy I would be petrified if two animals moved the exact way at the same time alll the time 🤦🏾♂️
This is easy, just bring a pin and pop the thing. You said it was a bubble.
That's a gamer nerd move right there.
@@grigoriyefimovichrasputin7897 I'm not sure how to respond
@@towelfn4320 you did
Good job towel the and peter
@@RacsoLoski lol
The weirdest thing is that they don't wear any air purifying masks in the alien ecosystem that is almost completely unknown
its like going naked on a trip towards Chernobyl's reactor
The weirdest thing is that you seem to have missed the part which tells "it" has been there for about three years. And that they have previously sent human personnel via land, air and water, aswell as drones and such.
It's not like they have just found about the phenomenon, and that these are the very first people they send to investigate. In addition, when trying to isolate this kind of phenomenon from the public, it's kind of obvious you can not inform every branch of the government about it and bring in thousands of personnel on-site.
How can you not read anything between the lines... 🤯
"Is there air, you dont know!"- HammerTech
Dude now that you said to go by the shore, I can't help but think "wtf happened to the sea inside the shimmer? What kinds of seamonsters and horrors could be there?"
About those glass trees, corals and some microorganisms that live in colonies make a sort of spiky glass shell for themselves. Not too far of a stretch to say that some mutated and became those trees after mixing with some actual tree dna.
Being a team leader then why did you not bring any different equipment?
"Ohh wait because you're a f***ing psychologist."
Love that part lol.
same
Wait wtf I saw this just as he said it
I fail to guess why psychologist is doomed to lead expedition worse than random dude from the internet, but well...
@@Petaurista13 Yeah it's not a strong point at all. You don't have to be an expert in a given field to put redundancies in place. It'd honestly be very unlikely that she would be the only one overseeing preparation for the expedition to begin with though.
Being a psychologist doesn’t mean ur a therapist, much of psychology is actually experimental and testing with meticulous planning so this doesn’t make any sense. Being a psychologist just means ur a scientist, so it’s dumb to assume she doesn’t have the necessary expertise to do it. She most likely got a doctorate which makes her a doctor so again what ur saying makes no sense.
Knowledge to live by, “Do you want snake intestines because that’s how you get snake intestines.”
Lmao that was my favorite 🤣
Do you want ants??
Because that's how you get ants!!
This channel is literally the shimmer, once you step in to seeing content you don’t come back out. Honestly I’d rather stay anyways because this is some good *fucking* content
The entity was trying to "replicate" the fire but failed to do so as it was burned, this is why it scurried back underneath to its "base thing" it was panicking
In case anyone missed it the first time, the whole movie was an allegory for Cancer and the way cancer cells behave, as well as different ways patients behave and deal with cancer (acceptance, denial, fighting, etc) and rewatching the film with this in mind adds a whole extra level to the story
There are UA-cam videos breaking this down as well
Imma act like that made sense
You sure? Sounds interesting but scary
Someone's been paying attention in their film theory class
You forgot the dam physiologist
Nerd Explains: "If a meteorite impacted the Earth creating an expanding iridescent bubble that caused the death of anyone who entered what would you do?"
Me: Stay home and watch UA-cam
Well, I wouldn't enter it lol
Until the internet goes down
Just live on the other side of the world
Intervene
laughs in space
I think its not so much amnesia is that they all died shortly after entering the shimmer, and when they "Woke up" days later, they were shimmer clones and didn't know it.
Also, this is clearly not Lovecraft's "Color Out of Space" and yet somehow it tells that story better than basically all movies called "Color Out of Space."
This is probably one of the most intensely psychedelic films I've ever seen, I need to read the book. I don't know how to put it into words any better, but this movie is like an intense mushroom or LSD experience in so many ways.
yeah muishrooms really connects you to nature ive only done it twice but the seocnd time I went out in the yard and just put me feet in the grass and idk i could like sense the whole yard of grass like it was emotionally connected to the grass I was standing on - the tree in the yard i touched was a different circuit tho.
I ahd a little bit of synesthesia from playing music and singing when i took 5 grams at once ( huge dose!) I was singing and it felt like I had a like 10 people in harmony with me. it was amazing.
Using a homing pigeon for comms wouldn't work well, pigeons use the earths magnetic field to navigate. Noticing the compass going erratic means that in the bubble the magnetic field is compromised.
Also the Pigeon might have already been mutated
and if it affects humans it will affect the pigeons
Sssshhh, stop using basic knowledge and logic
Magnetic fields are NOT the only things that (flying) birds use to navigate. It wouldn't work in the shimmer place, but most (flying) birds use their FAMILIArITY with an area far more than any magnetic field.
put a faraday cage over the entire thing... the size of FLorida... nevermind lol
“Would’ve brought that m249 SAW”
The M240 in front of him: “Am I a joke to you?”
Well the M240 isnt meant to be fired from the shoulder or the Hip it's meant to be fired as an an MMG on a tripod, the M249 would've been a better choice, because its 5.56 cartridge and lighter weight, as appossed to the 7.62 cartridge of the M240
@@recording_closet9100 well yes, but no. The SAW is a piece of shit. Give me the 240 any day. And it doesn’t need a tripod, it can easily be fired from a bipod.
The m240 is life of a squad. With its 7.62. Your m240 goes down you pick it up.
@@recording_closet9100 someones never been to machine gunners course
@@steelknight5052 that is true I'm just speaking from what I've heard
The bear scene was freaky as hell, whoever sculpted that did an amazing job
That bear is still one of the creepiest creature designs that I’ve seen in a while in cinema. I get chills every-time I watch that scene
the most perplexing part of the movie is how lena is depressed because the guy she cheated on left her
That's exactly what I thought. As soon as they made that reveal, I thought "oh so I don't care if she dies now"
She cheated because she was depressed.
@@tropiczebra not an excuse
@@tropiczebra what an excuse
@@tropiczebra always funny how women get excuses to the ends of the earth yet men immediately get called shitbags
Since the shimmer alien copies it’s inhabitants, the one thing Lima teaches it is the human ability to self destruct
“ART IS AN EXPLOSION!!!!”
Then I know how to win send in chuck Norris you can't copy perfection
@@gavinprestage7018 1000iq
Meanwhile an random USA general: why dont we just nuke it?
Anon: we cant nuke it
General: why not?
Anon: cuz it will ruin it
General: ruin what?
Anon: ....
General: .........
Because no US president is ever going to okay using a nuke on US soil for something that at the moment is more or less contained.
Also, if you have no idea what is clearly turning the laws of physics into confetti, you might want to be careful about how much additional firepower you add to it.
18:24 man I gotta give you major props. "Psychonaut's wet dream" has my crying right now!
Nerd explains:how is glass coming out of sand
Me:advanced minecraft tech
Moded Minecraft
Glass is made from silica and u know wat is sand is made up of???? yup its silica.
He was specifically asking how it 'grew' to be the shape of the trees
@@cavemanbonk8320 mods
@@cavemanbonk8320 mods
What makes this so scary is how hopeless everything feels and that there’s nothing to stop the shimmer.
@@dytzin2040 I mean, mint ones are good too but yeah, Orange Are The Best
@@dytzin2040 yeah I have an army of them to destroy the shimmer.
👉🏻😎👉🏻 cancer allegory
Ahem, nuke-
@@patches3555 no it would make it worse with the radiation
26:54 Actualy, if you heat up sand at a very high temperature, it turns into glass.
Sand is also made up of many differnt parts and beach sand would be partially bits of shells and other organic stuff.
In addition to your first-line precautions, we need to understand whether the shimmer extends beneath the ground/ certain inert shielding materials? I'm not suggesting underground rails, but it could be a way to create safe spaces for labs etc within the shimmer's boundary without having to penetrate the membrane.
I saw nobody else mention it... So can we just talk about the mutated bear? I'm guessing it mimics the sounds it's prey makes, to lure in more prey. The scary part is that since the only thing it heard Cassey do is scream for help that'd never come, that's the sound it chose to replicate. And for some reason, that is oddly unsettling, in a much worse way than any horror movie monster ever has been.
this.
literally an scp copy
In the book its not a bear its a giant ass pig.
@@user-xj3mo2lx9z sounds even more interesting. I enjoyed the movie a lot but I might just have to read the book
@@dr.palsonp.h.d815 monsters repeating human speech isn't an scp exclusive idea. The native americans thought of it like, 300 or more years ago.
SCP fans that have read every exploration logs: “I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you.”
Legit 😂😂
That part at around the area 25:35 seems like an scp. I can't remeber the name but it looks like it and also mimics sound too. I think it is scp 989 pretty sure
@@supadakta2235 You’re thinking of 939
@@alexkitchen6739 h o w d i d u k n o w
Hehe yeah
You make this movie sound so bad, yet I absolutely love it
That bear thing was honestly terrifying
🐻”oooooohmygooooood
hhheeeeeeeeeeeeeey”
Actually a lot of the questions you raise at the beginning are a lot clearer in the book - the team is led by a psychologist in order to try and maintain control over the team once they're inside. It clearly doesn't work but it's the main reason.
Yeah, I came here to post about the book. The movie is pretty good - as good as an adaptation of weird fiction can be probably - but some of the things NE proposes just wouldn't work because of how Area X works.
To be fair, though, you have to analyse what's presented in the film, not stuff from the book, which NE has :)
Considering Bullsharks can swim up rivers and wind up interesting places, there could have been Shark DNA present in the region for the Shimmer to manipulate.
Sharknado
@@CrossVarietieZ Heck yes
House shark
Sewer Sharks.
_Look before you shit, otherwise, _*_you might get bit._*
Land shark lol
You'd have to know how the time dilation works before you could use drones. They rely heavily on GPS and the time dilation would be significant. And hopefully the dilation is uniform, but you could find this out with 2 clocks, one just on inside, and one outside. You could even use a catapult with a clock on a string to get it further inside to see if both inside clocks read the same. Or use LIDAR. Those little dog bots from Boston Dynamics would be awesome here. Also, why did she die from having her jaw ripped off? That's not fatal instantly
i believe its the pure shock response from the body, she was already injured/ mauled beforehand when hearing the screams from the bear before coming back for round 2
16:52 bull sharks have a tendency to cross into fresh water. Also, at some point in the film you see the "map" of the shimmer include part of the ocean, which would contain a shark or two - as DNA is refracted around like a ping pong ball, it's entirely possible.
Okay here is some nerd shit about antimatter physics for those interested: the annihilation reaction as you explained it is correct. However antimatter is both extremely rare and volatile, and it is not naturally occurring as far as we know. Humans have only observed antimatter in tiny amounts inside particle accelerators. The total amount of antimatter that has been made in all of history is so small that it is measured in nanograms, and so expensive that one single GRAM of the stuff would cost about $62.5 TRILLION. In terms of volatility, antimatter is so reactive that 1 kilogram would create a blast with the yield of 43 megatons of TNT. For context, that is about 2000 times that of the weapon deployed on Hiroshima, and close to the yield of the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated, Tsar Bomba, which was 57 megatons of TNT. One kilogram of antimatter is almost on par with 27 tons of the deadliest class of weapon ever created. Antimatter is truly a force to be reckoned with.
Thank you for coming to my nerd ass Ted talk, and I wish my fellow nerds (and non-nerds ofc) a great day.
Thanks for the infodump, mate.
I now fear antimatter.......did not expect it to be worth that much or have it be compared to tnt or the bomb from Hiroshima......
Why the heck are they trying to make more antimatter then when's it's so destructive.
@@GI-yy1ex to study things like black holes, it's believed hawking radiation is antimatter and matter pairs being form above the event horizon, one particle shoots into the black holes and the other shoots away from it, making the black holes lose mass
Yeah, an asteroid that size made of antimatter would’ve made the chicxulub meteor impact look like a fire cracker.
16:55 Bull sharks are perfectly able to swim in non-salin water and have been observed up to 50 miles inlands from the sea. Considering the movie's location near the shore, a meeting between a shark and a gator is actually quite plausible.
Now for the mating part i'm definitely not enough into furry shit to elaborate any hypothesis
Most likely the gator consumed the shark, like with the bear, it consumed her vocal cord and was able to replicate her voice
@@iwasdroppedatbirth2409 maybe, although since the flowers are multiple species mixed into one and they can't "eat" eachother, maybe shimmer is taking genetics of one species and grafting it on the other (that might explain why the soldier got snake intestines while eating normal rations)
Yeah, it would make way more sense to send someone with a cable attached to it 1 meter into the Shimmer, then pull the cable back. You could then repeat the same process for longer distances and try to obtain information and samples from inside.
i must admit the flower antler stag was beautifull and so were the crystal tree on that note that movie made me remember all my high school biology,chemistry and physic classroom XD they should really show this in class and give special lesson about specific subject
Listen, I've watched plenty of scary movies and tv shows, so many that I'm pretty much immune to shit like this. But there is something so unsettling about the skullbear using Cassie's voice to call for help while starting down its prey that really just gets to me.
TRUE
same here dude same here and I habe had encounters with bears and creatures that look like a fucking wendigos or skinwalkers
The reason the psychologist went, is she was the director of the organization and had hypnotized the others to follow commands. The title, Annihilation, is even a trigger word. However, the movie seems to have left that part out, and makes the title not as important other than to go, hey we're making it into a movie.
yeah they left everything important out of the movie lol
Why were they all girls though :0 if they need a psychologist, wouldn’t a all girls task force kinda eliminate the purpose or would it refine it, I’m jsut trying to figure out why they needed women instead of a shaman or monk
@@dylanbarnhart6311 it was for sampling purposes. Previous team which got slaughtered was all male. They wanted to collect data for a full female team without any expectation of them surviving, just more data to research so each successive expedition would survive somewhat longer for even more data.
In the book there were multiple "successful" expeditions (IE had some survivors) around the outer rims which helped provide the standard for expeditions going deeper inside and not getting immediately annihilated. Stuff like the shimmer having an extreme reaction to any advanced tech.
Love how the Uber nerd educating us is unaware of the bullshark😄
The scene with the bear and the mimicing of the voice is so terrifying.
When the zombie apocalypse comes around, being subscribed to Nerd Explains would be the passport to get inside safe zones
NE: Here's your first mistake. Even if someone has a reputable ethos, it doesn't mean that they prioritize your best interests.
No they are probably canibals
I shoot them on sight
@@mosiout7736 right🤣 most youtubers who tell ppl how to survive suggest betraying the whole group to survive💀 i wouldnt trust any of yall
@@gabby3056 I mean that's in the worst case scenerio and besides most groups in horror movies are idiots who are going to get you killed
@@magicblaze1553 true true im just sayin i wouldnt trust the audience of youtubers who tell u how to survive stuff based on the fact that they usually tell you to take any measure to ensure ur own survival even at the cost of others so teamin with them wouldnt be the best idea🤣
"they leave the safety of the guard tower to wander into the dark tall grass where they heard the roaring beast" I'm dead
If the barrier blocks incoming and outgoing communication, you could just bridge it by a mechanical signal converter: half inside, half outside. When a signal is received from either end, it can be converted into a mechanical signal (e.g. a rod oscillating back and forth, like a record player needle) and then measured and transmitted out on the other side of the border.
I gotta say, that ManBearPig was one of the most terrifying monsters ever put on film. It tore the vocal cords out of one of the members of the group and when it growls that member’s last dying words are heard coming out of its’s mouth. And its appearance is nightmare fuel. Looks like half a human skull with human teeth attached to the bear skull.
25:39
*The CREEPIEST THING I've ever seen/heard in my life. A bear with the vocals of a MUTATED DYING WOMAN?*
*Simple:* Pop that bubble.
The bubble is very *thicc*
@@Whirl222 Use A Drill
@@dfranco2512 Y E S
Pop*
@@arandomcomment5635 goes the weasel
I do believe in the book they kinda give reason as to why the psychologist was present, the shimmer before hand actually showed psychological effects when close to the perimeter of the shimmer. Just being close to it exudes psychological effects. She also in the book became manipulative of others in the group.
I think it's more that the shimmer attempted to refract the fire, like it did with everything else, but not understanding it would destroy everything, and unable to stop once it started, since it's more force of nature than sentient.
the Annihilation looks like a REALLY beautiful movie, the flower motifs and mutated animals are all creative as hell and the entire concept is incredibly clever. the way it plays iridescence and ethereal beauty into cosmic horror is just so fantastically well done. pity all the characters were so damn stupid, though...
it sucks when talented artist's work gets wasted on a terribly made script
@@grailw9221 can u write a movie? creativity is penalized in school all about format. minimuze creativity. and add the factors of gramer
@@Mesakezuit yes i am not a writer but that does not excuse the laziness and obvious lack of care or passion by the "professional" writer behind annihilation
@@grailw9221 it was lazzy?
@@Mesakezuit well of course he is. there are so many plot holes, and times the characters act uncharacteristically stupid, in order to move the plot forward, without having to put the effort into having to make believable conflict. those among other things shows, that the writer behind annihilation is a hack, who would rather quickly make something, that gives the illusion of having deeper meaning. in order to trick people like you or me, which he likely thinks are a bunch of idiots who would lend money to him, and by extent the studio who produced the film. if he puts a few, somewhat deep and poetic sounding lines in his script
“They’re not close to an ocean”
Also:
“Lighthouse... shoreline...”
Yeah and some sharks can go up river
@@vegetalover9297 the shark grew legs
didnt they hike 40 miles to get to the lighthouse? I'd say that's probably further than those alligators traveled
@@rodolfobeguiristain yeah alligators don't often travel more than 10 miles from there home waters
@@snekkoheckko4466 it had years to work on their builds. It could even get information from different places of The Shimmer to mix them up. It's limitations are hardly set up
"Do you want snake intestines? Cuz that's how you get snake intestines." Solid gold.