Dude! Almost every single "hate" you mentioned...YOU CREATED!! I'm glad it's over-built and heavy. You FIXED the weight issue by increasing power but you also added a TON-O-CRAP. All of the bad thimgs can be FIXED. Cruise on...
Man I am 350 lbs and 6'5" and I have owned a few ebikes, including a stromer (the mercedes of ebikes) and a few others that were over 3k and this oneis the ONLY ebike I have felt safe on, like literally you feel like your riding a motorbike but can pedal with the effort of when you were 10 yrs old. It's amazing.
@@elendil504 I got mine a couple of weeks ago, have 170 miles on it. I weigh 240 pounds and the bike has enough pep to still fly. Steep hills it struggles, which is fine I need the exercise!
I've had my Rad Runner 1 since beginning of pandemic, absolutely love it. I'm in the process of changing my first tube. Finally had a flat. It's on the front tire so removing the tire is easy. Removing the rubber from the hub has proven to be quite difficult. I'm having to seek external help because my tire rubber is soooo rigid.
The over built part is truly appreciated by us off road desert wash and rough road raders out here in the desert. But it is duly noted how you say you mostly love your Rover.. as do I. Great vids, thanks.
I had the same problem with the kickstand coming loose. I almost lost it on a ride because it was just barely hanging on. I added locknuts to mine and it has helped a lot.
Jeff Oaks In general Ebikes are heavy. After buying one that weighs 70 lbs I alway consider the weight important. Putting it on a rack, taking it up stairs, bring it into the house. One should consider the weight. If you can keep it around 50 lbs or less that makes a big difference.
@@susanknee1187 Find a local shop that converts existing bikes using a mid-drive motor instead of a hub drive. You'll likely get more for your money and have solid support nearby. A great bike with ample range costs about $3,500USD here in the States ($4,500 with extra battery & accessories). Paying less will certainly deliver a disappointing product. Check out lunacycle.com/ for an example.
I like how the official RadRover assembly video shows a guy lifting the bike out of the box almost effortlessly. Some serious false advertisement lol. I recently received the 2019 RadRover step-thru bike. My only complaint is I have to push it up and down 3 flights of stairs, 6 nights a week as part of my work commute. Still, this is nothing compared to the torture I previously had to endure on my work commute, which has long hills, and is often against the wind. Sometimes a very strong wind. 6 nights a week. I was starting to lose my mind. It was just way too much work, especially after a work shift. This bike is a godsend. I laugh at the wind now. It used to be my nemesis lol. Hills are effortless. What was a slow 15 min. crawl uphill is now about 1 minute. Exponentially better. I'm looking forward to seeing how well it does in the snow next year.
Whenever I have to bring my Jeep to the shop I load my RadRover into the back (it fits without removing the front wheel). I’ve done it perhaps a dozen or so times in the last 2 years. It’s heavy but it’s bearable.
Good list of add ons, I'd probably want about the same. Kick stand, definitely lock tight, I hate rattles as well. I assume the stand bolts are threaded into the bracket. If the locktite doesn't hold and the bolts protrude through the bracket, get longer bolts and put nylock nuts on the ends that stick through, they should never loosen. I'd also look at adding a foam stopper to the stand or chainstay tube to damp the rattle when riding.
I have made my own additions to my RadRover. I enjoy doing it, and doing some customizing lets it stand out. You do not have to rely on manufactures tastes. Their tastes are usually kind of goofy anyways!!
Use a crush washer , along with lock tight on the kickstand bolts . A couple of lock nuts wouldn't hurt either , and I bet you can get it all for under $2.00 at your local hardware store . That should fix it forever I would think . As for the noise it makes , maybe a rubber bushing of some sort could be implemented to stop that awful crashing sound it makes when the kickstand is used .
Lol thanks for the video. I plan on purchasing one of these babies this weekend. You had me laughing about the kickstand. Honestly, your minor complaints make me want the bike even more. I love all the upgrades you did as well.
Get longer SST bolts that pass through the back of kickstand mount and put a SST nylock nuts on it and they will never come loose again - problem solved.
Can anyone tell me are those spokes a custom fit can you opt for white spokes or are they chrome I could not quite tell but I liked em. Cheers from the UK 🇬🇧
I have the Rad Wagon and Yes the kick stand in it is really loud and now it doesn’t even hold up the bike. I have take. A couple of small tumbles,which I think bent it but no mater what I try it doesn’t help. I’ve looked at other Ebike ‘Y’ kickstands and the ones I think would work is $200+. For a kick stand! Also the wagons frame although mostly around tubes is fat tubes. No accessory usually fits and the worst is the Handle bars. Bought myself the Jones H bar 2.5. Installed today & what a difference. For 90$ bucks it’s worth it.
The structural strength (weight) endures heavy stresses and is important. I would also add the best "radial/belted" tires available and replace spokes w/ heavier guage.
I agree! I keep emailing Radpower and asking them why does aftermarket suppliers offer far more accessories than they do for their customers, like me! Always get the reply, "looking into it", not a good enough answer. #6 is not a good enough ratio on their chainrings! Had to change my front one, and still never use the derailleur after 2 years. These bike are not meant for hills due to weight, but speed yes! As for the kickstand, yes, I too had to use better heaver duty s.s. screws. Better allen bolt heads allowed more torque to be applied. After a year they have never come loose again, with lock washers also! Thanks again for a well done video post.
I have the Bolton controller running with a 52v 20ah 30amp rated triangle pack. Now, the range and performance is much more useable. I share many of the same "hates" about the small stuff, but it is what you make it, so keep changing it and keep Amazon in business 😁
I have 21 speed mountain bicycle with rear rack/Ortlieb 70 liter panniers,cell,flash light holders rear view mirrors frame bag.Rode it for a year like that and finally decided I needed to add e-bike kit because when i filled up those 70liter panniers with groceries i was seriously struggling(No missing leg day ever LOL)Got a Hill topper sprint kit 250 watt and it’s works great now a year later I’m now considering a full e-bike.My main concern is finding a bicycle shop that can do repairs and maintenance on a full e-bike.
I've had my two Radrover since 2016 and have around 3800 miles on each ebike. I did topeak rear rack, topeak MTX bag with fold out panniers, larger pedals, NiteRider Pro 3600 headlight, handlebar extender, handlebar adjustable stem, cell phone holder, suspension seat post, Cloud-9 seat, and upgraded the brakes to TRP. My top 5 are: 5. PAS levels will only go up or down one level only with each push. I sometime hit the PAS button on rough pavement/trails and go down to PAS 0 or up to PAS 5 pretty quick. 4. No blinking front light option. Had to add the handlebar extension to add a blinking light for riding in traffic work commuting. 3. Brakes/derailleur always needs adjustments. 2. PAS levels are too spaced out. 1 isn't enough and 2 is sometimes too much. Would like to have 7-10 PAS levels to dial in the assist needed (or even a PAS knob from 0-750 watts). 1. Gearing is set for 20 mph, would like to have the option to pedal up to 25 mph with more gears on the front or rear sprockets
When I was considering an ebike 2 years ago.. I was leaning heavily to the RadRover. But after seeing one in person.. and comparing it to a half dozen Haibike models that my local dealer let me test ride.. I ended up going for the Haibike. The only thing I wish it had comparing it to the Rad.. is a throttle. The Haibike is pedal assist only. But the torque is fantastic.. and I added a speed chip and can easily pedal 30MPH and I've even hit 40 down hill. I don't regret my decision at all. Mid-drive bikes are really nice. Oh.. and having ridden both.. I really dig the 3" plus size tires over the fat tires.
@@CitizenCycle925 I'm not giving it up.. I've never had it. But I have a motorcycle if I want throttle. It wasn't a deal breaker for me. The Haibike is super high quality. I'm happy with my choice.
@@stevyd Not $2-3k more. I paid $2100 out the door for my Haibike HardSeven 6.0. Its a 2017 model year.. but I got it in 2018 as a left over so I got it for a pretty heft discount. I do like the Rads.. I just thought the Haibike was a better deal at the time.
Purchased Rad5 04-21. Contrary to your #5 dislike, I like the option to add my own assessories as apposed to the mgf. Added most of which you added in your video. With respect to the weight, not concerned even placing it in a bike rack, just use the rear brake method. Bike weights 93 pds, lift height 2.5' by 77 y/o. Weight on mtn roads makes the ride more stable and less bouncy. No question, this bike is "Rad".
Thanks for your video - Question does the RadCity 5 Plus or the Radrover 6 have the Tannus Armour already installed when the bike is purchased new from Rad ? Thanks
Thank you for the video! I'm glad the new ones have black spokes. Your mirrors look great, could you please provide a brand name or link. Thanks! DUH! After reading 200+ comments - I just see the list of links you provided. Thanks
Hello , I wanted to know if getting an E bike wet could harm any electrical components or are they safely protected from the manufacturer. A lot of riding in wet conditions here in Maryland and I wanted to know from an actual owner if investing in the E bike would be a waste of money. Thanks again for another great video
So when you were talking about things that you added what about the kickstand or did back then they give you a kickstand and now they want you to buy one because it's something that you have to add on to your purchase
I watched your video comparing he Rad vs Himiway, I got the impression you really liked the Himiway. I surprised you didn't make that your daily driver. I'm still waiting until I have enough coin to drop on one and I'm leaning towards the Himiway because of your review. Be well. 👍😎
I rented a Rad Power step thru and I thought the saddle was perfectly fine. Rented twice. Once in March and once last week. Rented in Long Beach (CA). I have an ebike but I built it using a Bafang mid drive. I thought the Rad was very plush feeling. The ride was plush. Didn't feel like a bike with a motor but felt like a moped. My ebike feels like a bike still.
They've made some improvements over last 2yrs. I'm 270lbs& love their Rad Runner as a utility bike. But for "Fat Tire Mountain" bikes, dollar for dollar, The Himiway makes a better choice. Check out Juiced Bikes for fastest eBikes in same price range. But remember there's plenty of ez hacks to get your 20mph UpTo 25mph+
I don't get the drink holder thing, I've yet to see a bike that came with one, if you mean a connection point, it's in an awkward place but it's there, standard size
I've been watching all your rad vids. Yes, i am a 80's '90's kid. Mountain bikes were my thing. Specialized was my favorite. My handle bars were straight. Even back then, i had to modify shit to get lights, stereo, and other gizmos on. I feel stupid that i never thought of using ammo boxes as saddlebags. I bet those work amazing! Back in the day i hated front baskets. Today I've seen some mounts that i could probably get with. I like your back mount. To me, that says fishing box lol. In the 90's i used zip ties and different kinds of flashlights for a headlamps. I see today thats not a problem. I fractured my hip in the Army. I think this is a fine idea for me to still enjoy recreation and go with my daughters while they explore this world.
Good thoughts and I agree on pretty much all of your points... Still planning to order one soon! Lack of accessories is the biggest downside to any smaller / off brand! I have a Ford truck... I'm not a Ford super-fan (honestly I kinda like Ram trucks better) but aftermarket parts, accessories and service are way easier to find for Ford!
Hi there citizen cycle I'm 58 years old and I just purchased the red Rover 5 they have not mailed it to me yet I wanted to find out from you how wide are the handlebars on the bike in other words how long are they I appreciate your help
I’m not fond of the kickstand either. I’ve been looking for a dual kickstand similar to scooter kickstands. I think the single kickstand is inadequate for this bike. Please reply if you find a dual kickstand for fat tire bikes.
Appreciate your honesty. I ride a light aluminum mountain bike. I have l limited strength in my legs so getting started is a challenge. Unusually I start on an incline. Can you engage the peddle assist as soon as you crank the peddle?
Pedal assist engages when the pedal assist sensors pass each other, so some times that can be almost a full rotation of pedals. Good thing about the Rad Rover is you can just twist the throttle if you need help taking off, no need to wait for pedal assist to kick in.
I honestly wouldn't want a bunch of stuff on my handle bars ..but I could see that being an issue for many..the kick stand would bug me..iam still keeping mine coming..great video
I lost my leg November 12th and I'm going to not be in a wheelchair I'm going to be on an electric bicycle if I ever get it in the mail cuz it could be a month or more and I keep telling them rush it and they won't tell me if it's in China or in the United States
I have the 2019 model and I love it but I agree with all your points. I am in the midst of doing the add-ons. So far added fenders and my rack will be here Thursday. Wish I could get the 750 watt model, only 500 watts here in Canada.
I just took my Rad Rover 6 Plus out for 2 hours today. I live in an area with mostly hills, some steep. During a ride through a local golf course I came upon a medium in length, steep incline. I had it on easy pedaling (level 2-3) with pedal assist adjusted to 5, and nothing. I had to stop and walk the bike up the rest of the incline. I am not a strong rider - so this could just be me. This bike is a beast in weight. I decided to leave the course and go up other steep hills in my neighborhood. When I was in pedal assist 2-3, I still had throttle, but once I went to assist 5, I had nothing. I tried all different things with easy pedaling + assist 2, 3, 4....but once the hill became more steep, there was no assist on 5, OR no throttle with lower levels assist - nothing. I live over a very steep long hill, so now I am wondering if I just shouldn't have converted my mtn. bike to an e-bike since the RAD seems to be a dog.
Did you resolve this issue with your Radrover? I have a 2016 model Radrover and I have PAS 5 and can use full power throttle up hills. I'm around 290 lbs and never had any issues work commuting (5000 feet down to 4900 feet) or riding my Rover in the Sandia foothills (6000-7500ft).
@stevenrichvalsky9602 you'll probably need to unlock it with the key to remove it. if it's still stuck it could be one of the screws that mounts the battery cradle to the frame could be getting hung up on the underside of the battery
Hi. I bought my (Dutch) RAD Rover last December. Done 1100 km's on it. Kickstand no problems. Bought a phone holder that doesn't stick on the handlebar probably because of the declining width. Concerning the weight, and this is just my theory so correct me if I'm wrong: RaD wanted to make a chaper bike so use cheaper materials. So no fancy chrome/molybdeen frame or something, just cheap and simple aluminium. That might be light in itself but is less strong than steel. So you need more alu to get the same strenght as with steel and that adds weight (when you use conventional build technology). I think you can get an electric somewhat similar bike to a RAD with a fancy frame made of nice materials...and than you pay double the price. Do you want that? No? Then we are stuck with this. And lets face it: it;s not that the weight is slowing us down. ;-) Regards from The Hague. Mark.
My RAD ROVER is arriving any day now. I wish to purchase the mirrors and seat you have in your video(s). You mention "links"...but I can't locate them. thanks for sharing your brilliant videos.
Sounds like you don't want an ebike. All ebikes are heavy due to contollers and batteries, etc. Also, what bike did you ever buy that came with a water bottle holder? There are places on bikes to attach accessories, but bikes don't normally come with them. As far as handlebars go, no bike is going to be able to handle a ton of accessories on them them. The Rad Rover is a great bike for the price. The price would most likely double for everything you want done to it.
All ebikes are not heavy, my Turbo Levo FSR Comp 6Fattie weights 50 #s and is an incredible hill climber and great for downhill too. It's incredibly comfortable too, it's the bike I was looking for all my life. Don't give me it's expensive, quit flipping burgers and get a real job. /0 0\
LOL.. no doubt ol' CitizenCycle got a few $views. I just bought one. Love it. Radrover has service response. Couple of things after I put it together. 1. The rear fender touched the accessory rack i bought. Scratched the fender. All it took was to push the fender down to flex/bend the fender arms a touch. Fixed. 2. The front brakes drag.. They say not to back them off more than a few clicks.. once they break in (50 miles).. that will stop. so I was told.
I own the RAD MINI and it weighs 78 lbs. My bike weighs 120lbs now. I have four new batteries and good lights, blinkers, and brake lights and much more. I ended up using 74 wires to solder, 8 plugs / outlets. I had a rear video and that ended up sucking, being $200. I just bought mirrors, my first one sucked. My original battery won't mount on a new rail; I am going to buy one more battery to replace the original. Mine is a tank, lol... I plan on driving 150 miles. I have done 112 miles already. I would like a new bike, price 7,000… I also want 72 volt instead of 48 volts. More the amps, more I can drive. I also put good nuts because of kick stands. Thanks!
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for the response but you have lost me. Are you saying that a 750 watt motor doesn't have to be swapped out with a 1200 watt motor but only needs a controller that can deliver more juice to the 750 watt motor to output 1200 watts? If that's the case, then what is the maximum power output of the so called 750 motor? Or, why isn't the 750 watt motor not called as a 1200 watt motor?
@@tyronekim3506 you can just swap out for the controller and run more power to your 500 or 750 watt motor. You don't need to swap the motor. Some people have said it burnt up their motor other people said it's fine. I haven't had any issues with mine yet. I'm guessing it will probably be fine unless you overwork it, like trying to go up a steep hill using just the motor and not pedaling.
Check NY's laws about ebikes. It should tell you some things that would help answer this. For example, in some states if your bike is manufactured in or after Jan 2019 then it may have to have a "Class" sticker 'prominently displayed'. As long as the cop doesn't have cause to stop you and look at the details on the sticker then he or she still won't know for sure. But the sticker may declare the motor's wattage. You may also be asked for the info and lying to a cop is illegal, but then of course you don't necessarily have to answer any questions they ask. Some cops may have researched ebikes...may even own one...so may have an idea of the power based on observation, but in these times of "defunding" etc the police may not care all that much about ebike power levels. Your chances of being pulled over probably increase in states where the law says bicycle registration is mandatory and cops can pull you over to check on it at any time. Probably also depends how much attention you draw to yourself.
No. 5... I like the fact that it DOES NOT come with the add-ons because I may have to purchase items I don't want and it allows me to purchase the items I do want to add to the bike. With the seat, like you say, it comes with a pretty good seat, you prefer the more cushy seat. Great!!! But I know from riding long distances (100 to 200 miles) that the seat you have can create chafing. Chafing is horrible if you are riding long distances, so again, these are choices that each person must make on their own bike. No. 4... Pretty cool that you modified it to be faster. I'm much older now, so how it came would be fine with me. No. 3... Weight. Yeah. Makes it hard to pick up and mount for travel. Does seem to be overbuilt, but man it is STURDY. Ha!!! No. 2... Wow! You did a great job finding ways to attach things where you could. KUDO's! No. 1... Yeah. Kickstand shouldn't come loose and rattling would be irritating. In my opinion, Rad Power Rover is a damn good electric bike. Question: How is it for Mountain dirt roads?
Honest video, though I view being overbuilt as a plus. I bought the Radmini 4 so I can put it in the car, and my only gripe so far is every accessory I want is sold out and unavailable. I realize this is a result of the company's success, but not being able to get accessories from them, and having stern warnings about accessories not from them, makes for some difficult decisions. Do I really want to carry a gallon of milk in one hand for two miles? Do I fire up the car and drive to the school that I can almost see from my backyard because I can't buy a passenger seat? Do I go ahead and buy a 110 lb capacity rear rack instead of the 40 lb capacity factory rack which is not available, and risk the moon imploding at the sheer horror of my atrocious actions? 😉 Seriously though, at least I have some time before school starts, if it does start this year. It's a 15 minute drive by car, winding through the neighborhood, but only 0.35 of a mile riding a fatbike across the grass of the park behind our house.
Can anyone recommend a receiver Bike Rack for a RAD 5 ? RAD is 70 lbs. typical racks are rated at 80lb max but that is for 2 bikes in seperate cradles. An individual caradle can’t support 80 lbs. i need a soltion.
Dude! Almost every single "hate" you mentioned...YOU CREATED!! I'm glad it's over-built and heavy. You FIXED the weight issue by increasing power but you also added a TON-O-CRAP. All of the bad thimgs can be FIXED. Cruise on...
It's Dude's bike!
Dude I love this video. Catchy title with honest/helpful content. God bless ya
It should read, 5 cool improvements and upgrades on my Rad Rover.
That thought of yours carries a lot of weight.
I think Bat man is wondering who stole his bat cycle . Looks nice man!
I feel like the overbuilt nature of it is a good thing. Im a big dude and would want a good solid bike
Man I am 350 lbs and 6'5" and I have owned a few ebikes, including a stromer (the mercedes of ebikes) and a few others that were over 3k and this oneis the ONLY ebike I have felt safe on, like literally you feel like your riding a motorbike but can pedal with the effort of when you were 10 yrs old. It's amazing.
@Research Technician 6'1 240 and looking for a solid bike as well.
I am 6’1” 275 and I have over 2k miles on my rad rover. It is a tank.
This is all good to hear. I'm 6'2" 240 and have one coming next Wednesday.
@@elendil504 I got mine a couple of weeks ago, have 170 miles on it.
I weigh 240 pounds and the bike has enough pep to still fly.
Steep hills it struggles, which is fine I need the exercise!
Surprised he didn’t complain about how round the wheels are.
haha I agree, I just bought one of these used and I was shocked at what he was complaining about.
He didn't bother...he knows everyone hates those round wheels.
James L. Lol right this video made me wanna go buy the bike.. so I did haha
Ginger Valene It’s all about the square wheels! Everyone knows that lol
I've had my Rad Runner 1 since beginning of pandemic, absolutely love it. I'm in the process of changing my first tube. Finally had a flat. It's on the front tire so removing the tire is easy. Removing the rubber from the hub has proven to be quite difficult. I'm having to seek external help because my tire rubber is soooo rigid.
I got mine which I call Ginger my new girlfriend. Really happy with it! Best thing I did in 2020. Great work out every day
The over built part is truly appreciated by us off road desert wash and rough road raders out here in the desert. But it is duly noted how you say you mostly love your Rover.. as do I. Great vids, thanks.
I had the same problem with the kickstand coming loose. I almost lost it on a ride because it was just barely hanging on. I added locknuts to mine and it has helped a lot.
Complains about weight of bike but every time you see it he's added something to it ???????
Buaaahahahahahahahahahahaahaha
Yeah, it certainly is a but the frame.
Please can anybody tell me if these bikes are available in England and how much they are ?
Jeff Oaks In general Ebikes are heavy. After buying one that weighs 70 lbs I alway consider the weight important. Putting it on a rack, taking it up stairs, bring it into the house. One should consider the weight. If you can keep it around 50 lbs or less that makes a big difference.
@@susanknee1187 Find a local shop that converts existing bikes using a mid-drive motor instead of a hub drive. You'll likely get more for your money and have solid support nearby. A great bike with ample range costs about $3,500USD here in the States ($4,500 with extra battery & accessories). Paying less will certainly deliver a disappointing product.
Check out lunacycle.com/ for an example.
I like how the official RadRover assembly video shows a guy lifting the bike out of the box almost effortlessly. Some serious false advertisement lol.
I recently received the 2019 RadRover step-thru bike. My only complaint is I have to push it up and down 3 flights of stairs, 6 nights a week as part of my work commute. Still, this is nothing compared to the torture I previously had to endure on my work commute, which has long hills, and is often against the wind. Sometimes a very strong wind. 6 nights a week. I was starting to lose my mind. It was just way too much work, especially after a work shift.
This bike is a godsend. I laugh at the wind now. It used to be my nemesis lol. Hills are effortless. What was a slow 15 min. crawl uphill is now about 1 minute. Exponentially better.
I'm looking forward to seeing how well it does in the snow next year.
Soy Boys need not buy a Radrover, if you are and you do.....you will be eating BEEF in no time!....lmao 🤣
Whenever I have to bring my Jeep to the shop I load my RadRover into the back (it fits without removing the front wheel). I’ve done it perhaps a dozen or so times in the last 2 years. It’s heavy but it’s bearable.
"I bought a stock bike, then went crazy with add ons and did this video to complain."
Exactly.
Good list of add ons, I'd probably want about the same. Kick stand, definitely lock tight, I hate rattles as well. I assume the stand bolts are threaded into the bracket. If the locktite doesn't hold and the bolts protrude through the bracket, get longer bolts and put nylock nuts on the ends that stick through, they should never loosen. I'd also look at adding a foam stopper to the stand or chainstay tube to damp the rattle when riding.
I was expecting some serious complaints. All that crap is minor in my book! Get some Loctite LOL
I have made my own additions to my RadRover. I enjoy doing it, and doing some customizing lets it stand out. You do not have to rely on manufactures tastes. Their tastes are usually kind of goofy anyways!!
Use a crush washer , along with lock tight on the kickstand bolts . A couple of lock nuts wouldn't hurt either , and I bet you can get it all for under $2.00 at your local hardware store . That should fix it forever I would think . As for the noise it makes , maybe a rubber bushing of some sort could be implemented to stop that awful crashing sound it makes when the kickstand is used .
Lol thanks for the video. I plan on purchasing one of these babies this weekend. You had me laughing about the kickstand. Honestly, your minor complaints make me want the bike even more. I love all the upgrades you did as well.
Put lock washers on your kickstand to keep the screws from coming loose
Or some thread locker chemical glue. Never have to touch it again.
loctite!!
How are you mounting the new double bottle cages? I see where it's at, but not understanding how it's mounted.
Get longer SST bolts that pass through the back of kickstand mount and put a SST nylock nuts on it and they will never come loose again - problem solved.
I use lock-tight every nut and bolt on my bike
Can anyone tell me are those spokes a custom fit can you opt for white spokes or are they chrome I could not quite tell but I liked em. Cheers from the UK 🇬🇧
Hi what did you do to give it more power?
Is this a hydraulic brake? Do you feel it is necessary? Why or Why not?
What brand and style is the seat you swapped to?
I have the Rad Wagon and Yes the kick stand in it is really loud and now it doesn’t even hold up the bike. I have take. A couple of small tumbles,which I think bent it but no mater what I try it doesn’t help. I’ve looked at other Ebike ‘Y’ kickstands and the ones I think would work is $200+. For a kick stand! Also the wagons frame although mostly around tubes is fat tubes. No accessory usually fits and the worst is the Handle bars. Bought myself the Jones H bar 2.5. Installed today & what a difference. For 90$ bucks it’s worth it.
The structural strength (weight) endures heavy stresses and is important. I would also add the best "radial/belted" tires available and replace spokes w/ heavier guage.
Nice man thanks. I’m in South GA. Try Loctite Blue 242. Take care...
How fast can you get it going & what about if you're carrying a passenger? How fast?
I agree! I keep emailing Radpower and asking them why does aftermarket suppliers offer far more accessories than they do for their customers, like me! Always get the reply, "looking into it", not a good enough answer. #6 is not a good enough ratio on their chainrings! Had to change my front one, and still never use the derailleur after 2 years. These bike are not meant for hills due to weight, but speed yes! As for the kickstand, yes, I too had to use better heaver duty s.s. screws. Better allen bolt heads allowed more torque to be applied. After a year they have never come loose again, with lock washers also! Thanks again for a well done video post.
What kind of seat you got?
Thank you.
Yeah..what’s the new seat you added?
love seat
Yep, really, what’s the seat?)
I have the Bolton controller running with a 52v 20ah 30amp rated triangle pack.
Now, the range and performance is much more useable. I share many of the same "hates" about the small stuff, but it is what you make it, so keep changing it and keep Amazon in business 😁
Can you ride this thing up hills? How loud is it like for hunting?
Did it come with the white spokes
Where did you get your new seat and mirrors?
Are those the ammo boxes on the side? How did you mount them? Thanks.
I have 21 speed mountain bicycle with rear rack/Ortlieb 70 liter panniers,cell,flash light holders rear view mirrors frame bag.Rode it for a year like that and finally decided I needed to add e-bike kit because when i filled up those 70liter panniers with groceries i was seriously struggling(No missing leg day ever LOL)Got a Hill topper sprint kit 250 watt and it’s works great now a year later I’m now considering a full e-bike.My main concern is finding a bicycle shop that can do repairs and maintenance on a full e-bike.
I've had my two Radrover since 2016 and have around 3800 miles on each ebike. I did topeak rear rack, topeak MTX bag with fold out panniers, larger pedals, NiteRider Pro 3600 headlight, handlebar extender, handlebar adjustable stem, cell phone holder, suspension seat post, Cloud-9 seat, and upgraded the brakes to TRP. My top 5 are:
5. PAS levels will only go up or down one level only with each push. I sometime hit the PAS button on rough pavement/trails and go down to PAS 0 or up to PAS 5 pretty quick.
4. No blinking front light option. Had to add the handlebar extension to add a blinking light for riding in traffic work commuting.
3. Brakes/derailleur always needs adjustments.
2. PAS levels are too spaced out. 1 isn't enough and 2 is sometimes too much. Would like to have 7-10 PAS levels to dial in the assist needed (or even a PAS knob from 0-750 watts).
1. Gearing is set for 20 mph, would like to have the option to pedal up to 25 mph with more gears on the front or rear sprockets
When I was considering an ebike 2 years ago.. I was leaning heavily to the RadRover. But after seeing one in person.. and comparing it to a half dozen Haibike models that my local dealer let me test ride.. I ended up going for the Haibike. The only thing I wish it had comparing it to the Rad.. is a throttle. The Haibike is pedal assist only. But the torque is fantastic.. and I added a speed chip and can easily pedal 30MPH and I've even hit 40 down hill. I don't regret my decision at all. Mid-drive bikes are really nice. Oh.. and having ridden both.. I really dig the 3" plus size tires over the fat tires.
I would never buy an ebike without the throttle. The first thing i check when looking at ebikes is "does it have a throttle?"
i don't think i could give up the throttle. i do a lot of slow cruising around town, throttle is very nice for that.
@@CitizenCycle925 I'm not giving it up.. I've never had it. But I have a motorcycle if I want throttle. It wasn't a deal breaker for me. The Haibike is super high quality. I'm happy with my choice.
Well, for 2 - 3 grand more, it's really not fair to compare Haibikes to Rad Power bikes.
@@stevyd Not $2-3k more. I paid $2100 out the door for my Haibike HardSeven 6.0. Its a 2017 model year.. but I got it in 2018 as a left over so I got it for a pretty heft discount. I do like the Rads.. I just thought the Haibike was a better deal at the time.
If I get one, can it be fixed by any dealers i Scotland?
So how much was the upgrade for the electronic controller and the new display and how much faster does it go on top speed throttle only
$200 big increase in acceleration, no gain in top speed
@@CitizenCycle925 Can you get that from the company rad
@@CitizenCycle925 By the way what is the top speed 21 22 23
You get the upgraded controller from Bolton ebikes. My top speed with the stock controller was 24 and after the upgraded was still 24mph
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Purchased Rad5 04-21. Contrary to your #5 dislike, I like the option to add my own assessories as apposed to the mgf. Added most of which you added in your video. With respect to the weight, not concerned even placing it in a bike rack, just use the rear brake method. Bike weights 93 pds, lift height 2.5' by 77 y/o. Weight on mtn roads makes the ride more stable and less bouncy. No question, this bike is "Rad".
I just bought the rad rover 5 is it water proof?
Thanks for your insight. The items you listed don't look like a problem for me. If that is all sounds like a good bike.
i was stretching to find stuff i didn't like, its a good bike :)
Thanks for your video - Question does the RadCity 5 Plus or the Radrover 6 have the Tannus Armour already installed when the bike is purchased new from Rad ? Thanks
Everything you dislike is typical for ALL 750w fat tire ebikes not just the RadRover.
Well, I don't know about that. My Sondors MXS has a 750 Watts Bafang motor and it rocks!!
How much range did that controller lose? I’d like a bit more power, but don’t want to lose too much range.
Thank you for the video! I'm glad the new ones have black spokes. Your mirrors look great, could you please provide a brand name or link. Thanks!
DUH! After reading 200+ comments - I just see the list of links you provided. Thanks
What seat is that? Looks comfy.
i'd like to know too!
seat by Bikeroo, here is the link: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MF8TO1P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
To deal with the nuts coming off I've bought a couple of assortments of metric nuts with nylon inserts. Thread locker is good to keep on hand, too.
Hello , I wanted to know if getting an E bike wet could harm any electrical components or are they safely protected from the manufacturer. A lot of riding in wet conditions here in Maryland and I wanted to know from an actual owner if investing in the E bike would be a waste of money. Thanks again for another great video
What did you do to make spokes white???
how did you get the extension cord for the rear tail light RAD will not send one unless you buy their rear rack which they have been out for months?
my bike is a 2018 model and does not have a rear taillight
what do you do when you blow back tire out? stranded?
CAA will pick you up and the bike … no bull it’s not only the car …
What kind of seat did u get for the rover?
So when you were talking about things that you added what about the kickstand or did back then they give you a kickstand and now they want you to buy one because it's something that you have to add on to your purchase
I watched your video comparing he Rad vs Himiway, I got the impression you really liked the Himiway. I surprised you didn't make that your daily driver. I'm still waiting until I have enough coin to drop on one and I'm leaning towards the Himiway because of your review. Be well. 👍😎
I rented a Rad Power step thru and I thought the saddle was perfectly fine. Rented twice. Once in March and once last week. Rented in Long Beach (CA). I have an ebike but I built it using a Bafang mid drive. I thought the Rad was very plush feeling. The ride was plush. Didn't feel like a bike with a motor but felt like a moped. My ebike feels like a bike still.
They've made some improvements over last 2yrs. I'm 270lbs& love their Rad Runner as a utility bike. But for "Fat Tire Mountain" bikes, dollar for dollar, The Himiway makes a better choice. Check out Juiced Bikes for fastest eBikes in same price range. But remember there's plenty of ez hacks to get your 20mph UpTo 25mph+
I don't get the drink holder thing, I've yet to see a bike that came with one, if you mean a connection point, it's in an awkward place but it's there, standard size
I've been watching all your rad vids.
Yes, i am a 80's '90's kid.
Mountain bikes were my thing. Specialized was my favorite. My handle bars were straight. Even back then, i had to modify shit to get lights, stereo, and other gizmos on.
I feel stupid that i never thought of using ammo boxes as saddlebags. I bet those work amazing! Back in the day i hated front baskets. Today I've seen some mounts that i could probably get with. I like your back mount. To me, that says fishing box lol.
In the 90's i used zip ties and different kinds of flashlights for a headlamps. I see today thats not a problem.
I fractured my hip in the Army. I think this is a fine idea for me to still enjoy recreation and go with my daughters while they explore this world.
Please show more about the bottle holder & provide a link to get one.
I got my bottle mounts at MRI Denver. mri-denver.com/shop?keywords=Rad&olsPage=products%2Ffront-bottle-holder-mounting-bracket&page=2
Good thoughts and I agree on pretty much all of your points... Still planning to order one soon! Lack of accessories is the biggest downside to any smaller / off brand! I have a Ford truck... I'm not a Ford super-fan (honestly I kinda like Ram trucks better) but aftermarket parts, accessories and service are way easier to find for Ford!
👍🚲Only subbed for a few days and thoroughly enjoying your videos! The comments are rich too. It's no wonder you don't respond to 95% of them.😁
Hi there citizen cycle
I'm 58 years old and I just purchased the red Rover 5 they have not mailed it to me yet I wanted to find out from you how wide are the handlebars on the bike in other words how long are they
I appreciate your help
Where did u get your fenders from?
What is your real world range for cruising on it?
what RACK is on the rear for the bag and boxes
I’m not fond of the kickstand either. I’ve been looking for a dual kickstand similar to scooter kickstands. I think the single kickstand is inadequate for this bike. Please reply if you find a dual kickstand for fat tire bikes.
No wonder its heavy got 3 ton of accessories on
Appreciate your honesty. I ride a light aluminum mountain bike. I have l limited strength in my legs so getting started is a challenge. Unusually I start on an incline. Can you engage the peddle assist as soon as you crank the peddle?
Pedal assist engages when the pedal assist sensors pass each other, so some times that can be almost a full rotation of pedals. Good thing about the Rad Rover is you can just twist the throttle if you need help taking off, no need to wait for pedal assist to kick in.
How do make it go faster how to do it please
I honestly wouldn't want a bunch of stuff on my handle bars ..but I could see that being an issue for many..the kick stand would bug me..iam still keeping mine coming..great video
I have a 2019 Rad Rover! I like your bottle rack! Can you provide a link or description we’re to purchase?
Same question... looks like an adapter of some sort.
Check out MRI Denver website for the bottle bracket
If THAT is all you have to complain about; you are selling the bike! Looks really good to me!
I lost my leg November 12th and I'm going to not be in a wheelchair I'm going to be on an electric bicycle if I ever get it in the mail cuz it could be a month or more and I keep telling them rush it and they won't tell me if it's in China or in the United States
I have the 2019 model and I love it but I agree with all your points.
I am in the midst of doing the add-ons.
So far added fenders and my rack will be here Thursday.
Wish I could get the 750 watt model, only 500 watts here in Canada.
Use a metal/nylon nut to fix the kickstand issue. 👍
I just took my Rad Rover 6 Plus out for 2 hours today. I live in an area with mostly hills, some steep. During a ride through a local golf course I came upon a medium in length, steep incline. I had it on easy pedaling (level 2-3) with pedal assist adjusted to 5, and nothing. I had to stop and walk the bike up the rest of the incline. I am not a strong rider - so this could just be me. This bike is a beast in weight. I decided to leave the course and go up other steep hills in my neighborhood. When I was in pedal assist 2-3, I still had throttle, but once I went to assist 5, I had nothing. I tried all different things with easy pedaling + assist 2, 3, 4....but once the hill became more steep, there was no assist on 5, OR no throttle with lower levels assist - nothing. I live over a very steep long hill, so now I am wondering if I just shouldn't have converted my mtn. bike to an e-bike since the RAD seems to be a dog.
Did you resolve this issue with your Radrover? I have a 2016 model Radrover and I have PAS 5 and can use full power throttle up hills. I'm around 290 lbs and never had any issues work commuting (5000 feet down to 4900 feet) or riding my Rover in the Sandia foothills (6000-7500ft).
Thanks for enlightening info, bro!
Having trouble getting my battery off the bike can you help me please ?
@stevenrichvalsky9602 you'll probably need to unlock it with the key to remove it. if it's still stuck it could be one of the screws that mounts the battery cradle to the frame could be getting hung up on the underside of the battery
Thank you
How do you have the bottles mounted at the head tube? Looking for a solution for the RadWagon. Comes with the worst placement stock.
I got my bottle mount at MRI Denver.mri-denver.com/shop?keywords=Rad&olsPage=products%2Ffront-bottle-holder-mounting-bracket&page=2
Hi. I bought my (Dutch) RAD Rover last December. Done 1100 km's on it. Kickstand no problems. Bought a phone holder that doesn't stick on the handlebar probably because of the declining width.
Concerning the weight, and this is just my theory so correct me if I'm wrong: RaD wanted to make a chaper bike so use cheaper materials. So no fancy chrome/molybdeen frame or something, just cheap and simple aluminium. That might be light in itself but is less strong than steel. So you need more alu to get the same strenght as with steel and that adds weight (when you use conventional build technology). I think you can get an electric somewhat similar bike to a RAD with a fancy frame made of nice materials...and than you pay double the price. Do you want that? No? Then we are stuck with this. And lets face it: it;s not that the weight is slowing us down. ;-)
Regards from The Hague. Mark.
My RAD ROVER is arriving any day now. I wish to purchase the mirrors and seat you have in your video(s). You mention "links"...but I can't locate them. thanks for sharing your brilliant videos.
Thought this would be a negative rant by title, but a fair (and accurate) critique it is. Love my Rad too, they’re great e-bikes.
Hi where you buy the power upgrade kit?
Bolton Ebikes
How did you do that with your spokes that's pretty cool
spoke skins!
Sounds like you don't want an ebike. All ebikes are heavy due to contollers and batteries, etc. Also, what bike did you ever buy that came with a water bottle holder? There are places on bikes to attach accessories, but bikes don't normally come with them. As far as handlebars go, no bike is going to be able to handle a ton of accessories on them them. The Rad Rover is a great bike for the price. The price would most likely double for everything you want done to it.
All ebikes are not heavy, my Turbo Levo FSR Comp 6Fattie weights 50 #s and is an incredible hill climber and great for downhill too. It's incredibly comfortable too, it's the bike I was looking for all my life. Don't give me it's expensive, quit flipping burgers and get a real job. /0 0\
Where did you find the seat you put on your bike?
Bikeroo seat on amazon
hi just bought a used 2020 Radcity what is the button on the throttle?
Turns throttle off/on
LOL.. no doubt ol' CitizenCycle got a few $views. I just bought one. Love it. Radrover has service response. Couple of things after I put it together. 1. The rear fender touched the accessory rack i bought. Scratched the fender. All it took was to push the fender down to flex/bend the fender arms a touch. Fixed. 2. The front brakes drag.. They say not to back them off more than a few clicks.. once they break in (50 miles).. that will stop. so I was told.
Jones h-bar loop 2.5 Really good handlebars.
Yep that's the game changer the Jones h bars
I own the RAD MINI and it weighs 78 lbs. My bike weighs 120lbs now. I have four new batteries and good lights, blinkers, and brake lights and much more. I ended up using 74 wires to solder, 8 plugs / outlets. I had a rear video and that ended up sucking, being $200. I just bought mirrors, my first one sucked. My original battery won't mount on a new rail; I am going to buy one more battery to replace the original. Mine is a tank, lol... I plan on driving 150 miles. I have done 112 miles already. I would like a new bike, price 7,000… I also want 72 volt instead of 48 volts. More the amps, more I can drive. I also put good nuts because of kick stands. Thanks!
What did you do to upgrade from 750 watt to 1200 watt motor?
Just upgraded the controller, "Bolton ebikes" Rad Rover upgrade kit
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for the response but you have lost me. Are you saying that a 750 watt motor doesn't have to be swapped out with a 1200 watt motor but only needs a controller that can deliver more juice to the 750 watt motor to output 1200 watts? If that's the case, then what is the maximum power output of the so called 750 motor? Or, why isn't the 750 watt motor not called as a 1200 watt motor?
@@tyronekim3506 you can just swap out for the controller and run more power to your 500 or 750 watt motor. You don't need to swap the motor. Some people have said it burnt up their motor other people said it's fine. I haven't had any issues with mine yet. I'm guessing it will probably be fine unless you overwork it, like trying to go up a steep hill using just the motor and not pedaling.
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for the information. Stay safe and be in good health. Good luck.
How much is the bike? Thank you
the Radrover is $1500 you can find decent bikes for $900 though, like the Lectric XP
How is a cop going to know if my bike is 1000w? Cuz I live in New York and I ordered one and I'm going to ride it
Check NY's laws about ebikes. It should tell you some things that would help answer this. For example, in some states if your bike is manufactured in or after Jan 2019 then it may have to have a "Class" sticker 'prominently displayed'. As long as the cop doesn't have cause to stop you and look at the details on the sticker then he or she still won't know for sure. But the sticker may declare the motor's wattage. You may also be asked for the info and lying to a cop is illegal, but then of course you don't necessarily have to answer any questions they ask. Some cops may have researched ebikes...may even own one...so may have an idea of the power based on observation, but in these times of "defunding" etc the police may not care all that much about ebike power levels. Your chances of being pulled over probably increase in states where the law says bicycle registration is mandatory and cops can pull you over to check on it at any time. Probably also depends how much attention you draw to yourself.
No. 5... I like the fact that it DOES NOT come with the add-ons because I may have to purchase items I don't want and it allows me to purchase the items I do want to add to the bike. With the seat, like you say, it comes with a pretty good seat, you prefer the more cushy seat. Great!!! But I know from riding long distances (100 to 200 miles) that the seat you have can create chafing. Chafing is horrible if you are riding long distances, so again, these are choices that each person must make on their own bike.
No. 4... Pretty cool that you modified it to be faster. I'm much older now, so how it came would be fine with me.
No. 3... Weight. Yeah. Makes it hard to pick up and mount for travel. Does seem to be overbuilt, but man it is STURDY. Ha!!!
No. 2... Wow! You did a great job finding ways to attach things where you could. KUDO's!
No. 1... Yeah. Kickstand shouldn't come loose and rattling would be irritating.
In my opinion, Rad Power Rover is a damn good electric bike. Question: How is it for Mountain dirt roads?
He is an options junky, then I LIKE THE SNAPPINESS OF THE KICKSTAND- What are they called? retainer nuts?
Honest video, though I view being overbuilt as a plus. I bought the Radmini 4 so I can put it in the car, and my only gripe so far is every accessory I want is sold out and unavailable. I realize this is a result of the company's success, but not being able to get accessories from them, and having stern warnings about accessories not from them, makes for some difficult decisions. Do I really want to carry a gallon of milk in one hand for two miles? Do I fire up the car and drive to the school that I can almost see from my backyard because I can't buy a passenger seat? Do I go ahead and buy a 110 lb capacity rear rack instead of the 40 lb capacity factory rack which is not available, and risk the moon imploding at the sheer horror of my atrocious actions? 😉
Seriously though, at least I have some time before school starts, if it does start this year. It's a 15 minute drive by car, winding through the neighborhood, but only 0.35 of a mile riding a fatbike across the grass of the park behind our house.
Can anyone recommend a receiver Bike Rack for a RAD 5 ? RAD is 70 lbs. typical racks are rated at 80lb max but that is for 2 bikes in seperate cradles. An individual caradle can’t support 80 lbs. i need a soltion.
just a thought, maybe look at hitch carriers for dirt bikes.... i have a hitch carrier for my motorcycles and that thing holds 600lbs