ARCANE how can you end like that?! (Ep 7-9) *TV Show Commentary/Reaction*
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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We're finally finishing Arcane Season 1 with episodes 7-9.
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Hey guys! This show was such an emotional rollercoaster and I loved it. Anyone have theories for season 2?
I think it may be a spoiler for people who don't play League so I'd just say it a sort of a list,
List here :
- Game version on Ekko, Viktor, Vander and you might have not noticed, the doctor that Vktor was talking to, Singed, making it in the show
- Hextech weapon upgrades
and New characters from the game that has a connection to Piltover and Zaun
Oooooh
I'm in holiday now in Portugal 🇵🇹
Greetings from Armação de Pêra 🇵🇹🌴✌🏻
I'll watch this after I get back home, enjoying it properly at my PC not here on the phone
Going home on Wednesday 😭 don't wanna,it's paradise here
And Thursday night back to work
Anyway thanks for another amazing reaction ❤️💙
I’m thinking the weird living magic cote is gonna protect them but it’s still going to lead to an all out war. We also never saw the “bigger fish than Silco” so they could play a massive role in season 2
None spoiler spoiler.
Several of the people on the Council are characters in the game and will probably not die, but could be severely maimed. Others on the Council will probably die and serve as motivation for some characters for season 2.
i mean we league player know a few things already
In the end, Silco died like Vander: chosing their kids over their life ambitions. That statue scene is simply perfect.
And both killed by jinx.
@@crankfastle8138 Both unwillingly, I might add
Vander was the father Silco was a sick freak that took a young disturbed child and used her trauma to manipulate her into wierd parent like relationship..Pimps do the same He was Never the father..
@@crankfastle8138i would also like to add that neither of them blamed Jinx for what happened
Aww she cut out "Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?" and "are we still sisters"? some of my favorite lines, this show is amazing
I liked 'Are you real?' the best
@@TimoRutanenwhich was also cut 😢
because she hates silco lol
I know that Heimerdinger is adorable and genuinely well-meaning, but everythingt that Jayce said about him *is* true. He's been a leader of those cities for a *very* long time. When Vander fought on the bridge and Vi and Powder's parents were killed, Heimerdinger was one of the ones in charge. When Silco flooded the lanes with Shimmer, addicting people and making things even worse, Heimerdinger was one of the people in charge... and he probably was happily going to his operas and such the whole time. Jayce's frustration was with him blocking progress, and yes his version of progress was reckless, but Heimerdinger's version of inaction was damningly negligent. People suffered under Heimerdinger, and fixing that was never an urgent need for him because he had the luxury of time and the idea that in the future, they'd work it out. Only generations of real people would live, suffer and die before that.
Someone other than me gets it. Yes, the person without empathy and has been ruling over humans for centuries with no understanding of them, or any conceivable way of fixing problems is the bad guy.
Also Silco is a response to Heimerdinger's leadership. He doesn't gain power and maintain it if Shimmer is a greater hope than his leadership. They are willing to consume deadly drugs to stand a chance in a fight. That shows how desperate things are. Think about all of Silco's long speaches to the chem barons. Every time he mentions the DISGUSTING conditions they were in and how they fought to survive. Silco isn't fully evil he does aspire to free his people. That being said his results are fully evil...
@@darksaint0124dude Donger might be one of the founder but he's definitely not the most powerful in Piltover. Wait till you meet the Ferros.
@@Vizible21 I know league lore. I know who the Ferros clan is and know who Camille is along with her absolute shitstain of a brother. Does Camille even exist yet as she does in League? It is very doubtful, since a lot of stuff about Hextech was changed. The technology for her body modification probably doesn't even exist yet.
Tiny correction: He's been a leader to one city.
I genuinely do believe Silco cared deeply about Jinx how he was finally offered everything he’s always wanted but wouldn’t take the deal if it meant giving her up similar to how the group sorta lead to Vander’s downfall
Silco's still a selfish sadistic sociopath. He cares for the one person he brainwashed into becoming his pseudodaughter. Nice guy.
He truly saw jinx as another him. Vi ofc modeled herself after vander but that was the last thing vander wanted. For their kids to have lived like theirs. But ofc plot. They'll go even further
He did care for jinx. That’s no question. People apparently don’t know Vi was like re-truamatizing her by making her remember all the people she killed. Thats why they were monsters. Silco saw what it was doing to jinx and he broke out and grabbed the gun cuz she wouldn’t stop. Then powder instinctively reacted to protect her sister.
Episode 5 - Silco - "You have to let Powder die. Jinx is perfect."
Episode 9 - Silco - "Don't cry, you're perfect."
Silco sees that Powder has now fully embraced Jinx. This is such a great call back that nobody notices.
or
(a different perspective.)
When Jinx shot Silco and accidentally killed him. It could also be that Silco believes Jinx chose Violet.
So in summary, Silco states that Jinx is perfect whether it is Powder or Jinx. Silco may have thought Jinx killed him on purpose. (to protect her sister)
Because in reality it was an accident.
@@n0bleonline222I definitely agree with this interpretation. Silco gives Jinx the genuine advice to let powder die in order to make herself mentally stronger and not be dragged down by her past, just as Silco did when Vander betrayed him.
However, in the scene previous when Silco speaks to the statue of Vander, I think he realises that he never actually let his old self die, not fully anyway. That’s why regardless of the choice Jinx makes, in Silco’s eyes she is perfect, because she’s just the way she is.
Imagine watching the entire series and not get the relationship between Silco and Jinx at all
Some people look for the wrong things and think they find them. Unfortunately there is no chance for her to appreciate it unless she rewatches it.
Well mature adults can see how messed up it really is...A grown man took a disturbed child, and used her trauma to manipulate her into some wierd type of fatherlike relationship...Again using her lose of a father and family to his advantage...It's the same tactics that pimps use...take young fatherless disturbed girls, with a lack of family, and manipulate them into a relationship and to work for them....which Jinx also does...works for Silco....Ya'll thinking this is love is actually really sad and scary...
there will always be people who fail to engage critically with the show
And it’s objectively the wrong read, too, multiple members of the cast and crew have talked about his love for her being genuine. It drives me insane when I see people misinterpreting it so badly. I always struggle to understand how some people don’t see it, but what can you do?
I’ve never played League of Legends and I have no desire to play it, but this show absolutely crushed me. I wasn’t ready for it to be so incredible 😭
I won’t lie I absolutely loved silco, all his lines in relation to vander. Him finally realizing how undoing it was to have a daughter and how he would do anything for her like I bawled my eyes in his last moments
Silco is an example of a bad person who tried to be a good father. Like every character in this series there’s depth to his character as he first is so tunnel visioned in his dream of a free Zaun and him not understanding why Vander would choose a peaceful route instead of continuing to fight. Only later on when he becomes a father and he’s forced with the literal decision of giving up his daughter or realizing his dream does he truly understand Vander. He realized that as Vander chose peace and stopped pushing for his desire for a free Zaun in order to keep his adopted kids safe, now Silco is in an impossible situation where he wants his dream but not at the expense of loving his adopted daughter Jinx. There’s no point to having a free Zaun when you have no one to be free with. That and the fact that due to trauma of being abandoned and betrayed he cannot lose Jinx. He’s constantly shown as being deeply afraid of losing her whether via being captured by police, Jinx possibly leaving him to go be with Vi or by her dying, we see how he acts and reacts to these possibilities with fear. He couldn’t give her up, not for anything, even if that means giving up the dream he had his entire life. Love him, hate him, but at least we can empathize with why he feels the way he does and it’s partly what makes him such a powerful character
He will be missed in s2 i really wanted more of him😭
@@marwas6920 Maybe Jinx will have hallucinations of him ? Like she did for Milo and Clagor.
When he says "Everyone else betrays us." its truly what silco believes. its the lesson he took away from when vander nearly drowned him.
That’s what makes him so fascinating and tragic, he’s not trying to manipulate her. It drives me crazy when people don’t get that.
@@KnightbladeStudios absolutely. He truly thinks she's perfect the way she is, bc she cant be controlled, making her more free than anyone.
People saying "Viktor got addicted" seem to forget he wasn't dying from his leg but his failing lungs, the leg was just a test run. So he tried curing his lungs (hence the runes carved on his chest). It's not addiction, it's last resort measure
I have never seen anyone cheer for Silcos death. Thats new. Like sure he did some bad stuff but most people I know cried at his death.
i understand not liking silco but i'll never understand reactors not including silco's "you're perfect" speech
Edit: Silco is a father figure, don't be weird
Yeah, it's understandable if people don't want to feel empathy for the main villain (even though he clearly has redeeming qualities like loving Jinx and trying to free the undercity from the oppression of Piltover). But if you look at it from the perspective of Powder/Jinx, then not only did she loose her father figure but she also lost the one person that could actually accept her for who she is now. Silco's death sequence is pivotal in why she chooses Jinx and only Jinx and decides to "burn it all" ...
What exactly makes him a villain. Heimerdinger is responsible for far more suffering over a much longer period of time than Silco is. The original bad guy of the series from the prologue has always been the council. But way too many people default to the big powerful corrupt body that cares about no one but themselves must be the good guys, because they can't put the!selves in the shoes of the oppressed.
Silco is a crime boss, but his feelings for jinx always seem genuine. He might not be a good person, but that doesnt mean he doesnt care about jinx. That scene in the end where he says "dont cry...you're perfect" always makes me cry. Such a good character, even if he is not a good person.
@@santinerino624 Vander is also a crime boss. Why does no one ever have a problem with him? The only difference between him and Silco is methods.
Oh god. Silco’s love for jinx is so wrong. He was middle aged when she was a child. G-rooming is the mental manipulation and abuse of power. Silco is sick and power drunk and wants to gain by any means. That’s not okay. Everything he did was almost the worst choice.
watching the entire series and still not getting the relationship between Silco and Jinx at all is wild lmfao...
Its funny to see different people’s reactions to these characters and their arcs because I BALLED MY EYES out when Silco died, it was the saddest thing EVER for me 😅
Silcos death was almost more emotional than Vanders.
same here. i cried so hard
@@robertfishburn8545 I think it actually was much more emotional. Vanders death didn't get me, it was the aftermath that was devastating... but Silco dying and his final words just being love and acceptance of his daughter who just killed him??? Goddamn.
Agreed, i cannot understand that "Yeah die, fuck you" that she said in her video... That whole final scene destroyed me, full cry mode the 3 times i watched the show. Such a good "villain".
Agreed, people seem to have a VERY shallow read of Silco. A much better character than they give him credit for.
Silco most definitely loved Jinx and saw her as his daughter. When Jayce demanded to get Jinx, Silco finally realised exactly why Vander was willing to give up on their shared dream of a united underground standing as an independent nation (Zaun). Like he said when he was sitting at Vanders' statue; "Is there anything as undoing as a daughter?". Silco wasn't going to give her up for his dream - just like Vander who quit their dream for his 4 adoptive kids.
It's important to remember that, as evil as Silco is, he is still human with a human heart.
He was betrayed by someone he considered his brother, which initially stopped everything he had worked for. In Jinx he saw a mirror of himself, which is why he takes her in and came to love her, being very protective of her. Shimmer is awful and creates a class divided society in the underground, but it was created as a tool to fight Piltover and force the city to recognize Zaun, as they were obviously not interested in governing it properly, only control it.
Silco was ruthless and a murderer but his goal was always for the betterment of the underground - he was ready to shut down Shimmer production instantly in exchange for sovereignty.
He also finally hit his line. At the beginning of the show he said “power comes to those willing to do ANYTHING to take it”. His power was that he was always willing to cross the next line - lying, cheating, stealing, killing, threatening peoples families, exploiting children - ANYTHING. But when Jayce asked for Jinx - that was the first and the only time he hit a line he wouldn’t cross for his power, and it was ultimately his undoing.
It’s kinda crazy how many people refuse to see this. The whole point of Arcane is that there are no heroes and villains in their most reductive state. Everyone has nuance. Literally *Every* principal character is nuanced. He was a drug pumper, yes, but he absolutely cared about her, and genuinely wanted the Undercity to be liberated from Piltover. There’s so much to everyone, and it bothers me when people either don’t want to take the nuance, or take it for some, but not for others.
Of course, you don’t have to like everyone. I recognize that. But it seems that there’s no willingness to look deeper
@@treceydory9303you can’t deny that they are toxic? He isolated her for years and used jinx for his own personal gain. He may have loved her but love isn’t always enough.
@@Ilovetoxicyuri I didn’t say that wasn’t the case. I just very clearly see that Silco isn’t a mustache twirling one-dimensional villain, like a lot of people seem to think.
@summernervosa9514 Yeah ppl have a twisted view on Love...This is why ppl stay in messed up situations...Hopefully they grow of it... Trauma bonding is Not love...And manipulating and isolating someone...putting them into a lifestyle that's dangerous...especially when u see them struggling mentally is Not love...Trust me...if u find urself in a relationship like this RUN!!! Ur being abused...
I think one of the most interesting parts of Silcos character is the fact that he basically gaslights himself into believing things that arent true just so he can hold onto something important. When he was telling JInx how Vi wouldn't love her the same as before he actually thought that was true, because he was desperate.
He was afraid of losing another person that he cares for and became almost manic (or atleast more manic than usual lmao) because of it.
JInx's situation is actually pretty similar, and when she killed Silco she killed the only person who fully understood her, sure Vi loves her so so much but she doesn't have the capabilities to connect with Jinx anymore (unless she finally lets go of the past and realises that Jinx wont just change back to Powder).
JInx & Vi and Silco & Vander are like my favourite parallels in this show tbh.
yeah I don't think Silco ever actually lies in this show. The guy actually believed what he was saying because he was actually much more vulnerable and desperate than he appeared to be. A lot of people go on about him being manipulative which is probably true but intent and malice are different things. It's all much more subtle and intricate than just "he's a bad guy" and the same goes for most of the characters
Well, he didn’t know Vi really didn’t abandon Powder as he was for Vander, he really believes because he’s not omniscient, that Vi would leave Jinx when she realizes is not Powder anymore. But also he know feelings are complicated, and like him and Vander, he doubted if Vi really would leave Jinx, again. He HAS to believe that everyone can betray, but Jinx was an exception to him. That they truly were the only ones whom understood each other.
I get that Heimerdinger is cute but everything that happens in the city goes to his account. The brutally suppressed uprising from the first episode, the poisonous air, chemicals in the water, police brutality, all this while he was leading the council.
Don't they vote on things? How can you put that all on him?
@@lucaleone4331 Because he is the head of council, everything falls under his leadership
@JaeMinJung. if he had that much power they wouldn't be able to just vote for him to leave.
@@lucaleone4331 He has chaired the council since the city's founding. His opinion weighed heavily and ended all discussion when Jayce was added to the council. I can't imagine anything being voted on at the council without his support, much less against his will. When he said after the attack: "How could this happen?" - he shows himself as a person who has no idea about the problems of his city - after all, only a few years earlier, the uprising was bloodily suppressed. All this time, Heimerdinger never wondered why there were piles of corpses on his bridge? The only reason they were able to remove him was because for the first time he threatened everyone. Jayce wanted him removed, Mel had to support him because of her own plans, and the other council members cared about their own finances
@Pawel274 I'm not saying he's completely innocent. I just think it's ridiculous to put the blame on him for everything.
That's the point of him going into the undercity to realize how bad it is.
But don't act like if he started rocking the boat they'd all just agree with him.
It shows the council members can be corrupt. And silco wanted a war to create zaun.
I'm not used to seeing anyone not feel for Jinx and Silco. Blind to all the interactions, blinded by hatred towards one character and not seeing the character development. This was a fun compilation video however. Glad you watched it all.
The thing with Vi that I think you missed is that she *had* been locked up for all that time. She was a frozen in time as much as jinx was emotionally. She was trying to work the present like it was the past. That there was ever a chance of turning back the clock. And there wasn't.
@NicsandNacs1-on-te-le-gram No way! I won? I won?! Omg amazing, how much money do I have to wire to a Nigerian prince to get what I won???
It is surprising that many fans admire Silco, as a father and the man who liberated and created the foundations of the nation of Zion in the game.
a man who was almost killed by his brother for being weak, ending up poisoned for life by the toxins in the water.
dying for his "daughter" that they rejected because of who he is.
People who have not had difficulties in life do not understand the character and demonize him.
Silco evil and manipulative.... But he's the only one who accepted Jinx whatever she choose to be. "dont cry...you're perfect" was the best line to describe how much he care about her.
I think it might take a rewatch for her to catch silco's nuances in his relationships but also a lot of people refuse to see it. Mind is made up after ep.3 usually.
Yea.. Also I'm not sure how much he intentionally manipulated Jinx (or anyone). I think he really believed what he said to be true.
@@crankfastle8138 No, people see it, it just doesn't remove the fact that he is a manipulative piece of shit towards Jinx. He's a caring father, not a good father.
The beautiful thing about Arcane is that every character, good and bad, makes good and bad decisions throughout. None of them are perfect.
Silco is fiercely loyal to his people in the undercity of Piltover, which some might argue is a commendable trait. Heimerdinger, while intelligent, often prioritizes his own inventions and experiments over the well-being of the undercity residents. While Heimerdinger may be a genius inventor, his focus on innovation sometimes blinds him to the suffering of those in the undercity. Silco's leadership, though ruthless, ensures the undercity's survival.
Thus, People who hate Silco from the core while admire Heimerdinger on the contrary... have Hypocritical thinking.
One thing that is frequently missed in this series is that Piltover is the oppressive force of the series. We know it in the first 2 episodes then promptly forget by the end of episode 3. Silco wouldn't have a following if it weren't for dangerous work conditions forced by Piltover, an oppressive heavily armed police force dominating the people, and a leadership that cares NOTHING for the plight of the people down there. By the end we look at Heimerdinger as a good guy but he's the cause of it all ...
Silco truly loved Jinx like his daughter :(💔 He was the only one who accepted Jinx completely for who she is.
Why'd you leave out Silco's best scene? The one where you realize he's not 100% evil?
Was Silco evil & manipulative? Absolutely!
Was Silco helping Powder/Jinx by encouraging/letting her be who she became? Absolutely not!
But did Silco truly care & love her? Absolutely yes! & I think we understand that in the moment he sits by the statue of Vander saying, "is there anything so undoing as a daughter". In that moment he had realized & understood, why Vander put down his gauntlets & became who he became. A bit sad you cut that part out as it truly speaks to Silco´s relationship with Jinx. Silco would burn down the world to get what he wanted. But he would also burn down the world to protect Jinx!
I imagine in time that she'll feel more nuanced about Silco's character in the future. I don't think it makes her initial take as wrong as everyone is making it out to be. Silco NEEDED to die. She is correct in that at least.
for sure, I think its planted there to make us question his motives but with that last episode we get a more clearer picture.
Same with Mel, we question her motives at first until we get to see more of her background & when she want to opt for a more diplomatic solution.
@@CamillaDrakenborg Yeah we've all had time for our impressions of these characters to age and evolve. I don't think her take is any less nuanced than those who LOVE Silco and think he basically did no wrong when it came to powder/Jinx.
agree, which is why I stated "Was Silco helping Powder/Jinx by encouraging/letting her be who she became? Absolutely not!"
He was kinda a shit dad since he didnt do anything to help her either with her mental health, but encourage her to go full on jinx instead, but he did love her as a daughter :)
@@CamillaDrakenborg Yeah hopefully she comes to terms with that side of Silco eventually. It makes him such a better character.
Jace is what we call "Chaotic good", his sole goal is to do good, but his motivations to get there can shift dramatically based on the situation. Meanwhile Vi would be true Neutral: she only cares about getting her sister, she has no stake in anything else.
The council throwing a tantrum actually made a lot of sense. The undercity were basically a slave colony of 2nd class citizens. Even Jace was complicit in it. "With these gauntlets, the people in the mining colonies can work longer, without fatigue"
Can't be having those mine workers taking too many breaks, can we? If the peasants get their own city, the council might actually have to pay them for their work.
Vi never got much exploration of her "backstory" because we know her backstory. The first three episodes really were about Vi and how she had to step up & be the leader of her found family....and how well she did that is up to interpretation
And not to belittle the point, but Jinx is a much more interesting character to explore deeper anyway.
One of a few reactions where Silco's death is cheered. That's probably because of the assumption that he is a villain or bad guy.
As for me that was one of the most heartbreaking scenes, and not just because of Jinx losing her third father figure, but because of the death of one of the kindest people in this show(he is trying to act like rigid, cruel person, but he is too bad at it, too merciful and nonviolent).
Of course, at first watch, it is totally normal to confuse heroes and villains here. My attitude towards them changed afterward: my respect to Sevika grew, while opinion on Mel has gotten worse(too many mistakes for good polititian).
If it isn’t too much trouble could you explain more about why you think that? I don’t think he’s kind but I’m curious about your thoughts.
@@lumenx7499 yeah, he was pretty cruel. But he was also human and his kindness was probably only shared with jinx. His cruelty did have a purpose and it almost worked.
I don't think Sevika is anything but respectable in the show. I get it that she is on that antagonist side but she is really honest, brave and loyal. And acts like a perfect soldier. She has no problem telling Silco her opinions but never questions him in front of others.
I keep seeing people say Silco isn't a villain, and I'm sorry but that's absolutely false. He definitely is a villain (though not the only villain of the show). Silco's very demeanor, the way he treats people, and how he threatens to kill children, are all villain traits. Heimerdinger on the other hand does not qualify as a villain, contrary to a what a lot of people seem to think in this comments section. Villains are defined by ill will and the means by which they achieve things, not by negligence.
Silco is not "kind" to anyone except Jinx. The guy who attempted to kill several children, who has made half of the city he is suposedly trying to help into addicts and who uses child labor to manufacture drugs is not "one of the kindest" in the show.
Check out Schnee's take on the ending. It's not really a cliffhanger - the two main threads of 1) will hextech be weaponized in the wrong hands and 2) what happens with Powder/Jinx are both answered. The result of the missile is secondary and would take focus away from the main themes.
Honestly, the season ended beautifully when you really look at it deeply. The perfect representation of how the lower class is always set destroy themselves thanks to the neglect and even active support of the upper class... and when the upper class FINALLY tries to do something to help because the lower class has organized (and only does because they are threatened then bargained with, mind you), they still need to take far too much time discussing, politicking, jumping through beurecratic hoops to try and make any sort of headway... but it was too late. They failed their citizens years ago. Everything that happened is a direct fault of the system and society they created. Jinx is a representation of all the rage and trauma that the people of Zaun have built up for decades, far too fed up with the life they had been dealt. We as viewers do not get the satisfaction of seeing the aftermath immediately because the sheer hopelessness would not have hit us the same way if there had been one.
Ekko is not just childhood friend of Jinx, he was in love with her till he saw her talking with gun.
As i remember he tried even to heal her throught diary where they both write words time to time after events of episode 3 (it showed during one of episodes)
They pretty much similar in some way but they did different choices and when Ekko created not just new place but new alternative for both cities Jinx is pure embodyment of chaos
I think with Vi there was no "character development" because she didn't actually have the space to actually change as a character from the first arc because she was stuck in prison. In a sense I think she was still stuck in the past, relieving the trauma, not moving forward because she couldn't do it in prison, away from actual human interaction. The moment she left prison she was free and able to observe the change that has taken place around her but not within her, at least not as much. In season 2 I think (or I hope at least) we will see how the outside world keeps affecting her and the ways she will have to adabt while probably fighting a lot of prison ptsd and the guilt of not saving her sister.
Jayce using hammer: "WOW! So amazing!"
Jayce hits child: "The absolute worst person, unbelievable Jayce!"
lol
once again just my 2 cents, you didnt add your reaction to silco's conversation with Vander's staue while Jinx was overhearing it all, :(( it was a huge moment
Silco wanted access and sovereignty for his people. He was willing to anything for it, except give up his daughter... and people still think he's the bad guy
Heimerdinger isn't evil but his age and immortality makes him act like an evil person.
The best way to explain it is with pets like big dogs. You know they will die before you do and there's nothing you can do to prevent that. Of course your really sad when it happens but you get a new one afterwards and the cycle repeats. Heimy sees human like that. Viktor dying is sad but he doesn't really care because it would happen anyway. Same for all the other people, including those of the Undercity. It's not evil, he just doesn't care. But I think he had a big realization after being kicked out of the council. Jayce was right to kick him.
Not sure if you knew but a lot of big artists made original songs for Arcane, "What could have been" this episode was actually performed by Sting, here’s a list in order, I’m sure you’ll recognise some names here:
Episode 1: “Playground” feat. Bea Miller
Episode 2: “Our Love” feat. Curtis Harding, Jazmine Sullivan
Episode 3: “Goodbye” feat. Ramsey
Episode 4: “Dirty Little Animals” feat. Bones UK
Episode 5: “Enemy” feat. Imagine Dragons & JID
Episode 6: “Guns For Hire” feat. Woodkid
Episode 7: “Misfit Toys” feat. Pusha T, Mako & “Dynasties and Dystopia” feat. Denzel Curry, Gizzle, Bren Joy
Episode 8: “Snakes” feat. PVRIS, Miyavi
Episode 9: “When Everything Went Wrong” feat. Fantastic Negrito & “What Could Have Been” feat. Sting, Ray Chen
Singed - the doctor - is the one caught in the blast in episode 3 (hence the burns on his face). And yes, he's the one who developed shimmer over the course of so many years (since Viktor runs into him as a kid). Loved all your reactions - good thing you're on board at this point (most of us had to wait 3 years hahahaha).
jinx shot on reflex at the gun sound, not necessarily to protect Vi, nor to shoot silco
Jayce killed that kid, but only because Silco put them there. But Silco only put them there because Heimerdinger made them crushingly poor for a hundred years. I think Jayce was right to kick Heimerdinger off the council.
I guess but I don't think Jayce did it for that reason. I think he was just focused on his own research being blocked.
I'm so glad you watched this show. Waiting for Season Two hasn't been easy. It's part of why I love reactions to "Arcane" so much and why so many reactors I follow I discovered through this series (or "Firefly"). But I am not complaining about the long wait for the next season either. It took them six years to make this season, and it's one of the _best_ single seasons of a series I've ever seen. They set such a high bar for themselves, I'm willing to wait as long as I need to wait if they can reach or exceed that level of quality again in Season Two. Even with the time they've had, I'm genuinely worried that the next season will be a letdown just because they did such amazing things with this season. I'm not convinced they can keep up this level of quality. I truly hope I'm wrong, but I'm trying to manage my expectations (and avoid spoilers at all costs). Thank you for this season's reaction! Looking forward to seeing whatever you react to next! ✌🤓
This was so much fun! Thank you for the reaction videos, your comments are amazing. I watched the show when only the two first acts were posted, so I had to wait for the three last episodes and I've been waiting for season two like three years now lmao. I'm still obssesd with this show, it's so good! Love how your opinions on the characters evolved since no one is absolutely good or bad, which is why I think the writing is a masterpiece. And I have to say, all your comments on Caitvi were so on point! Second person to notice the change of expression on Vi when Caitlyn is talking about peace with Ekko, and the cheek brush on the bridge. Also, I think you are the only person who didn't laugh with the "I'm not that crazy". I also didn't and I don't get why people laugh, not at first watch at least.
Thank you so much!! Hope S2 comes soon!
When you played Two worlds... That really got me.. Haven't heard it since I was a kid, forgot how good Tarzan soundtrack was
Basically the main cast are mostly League champions (playable characters), Viktor, Jayce, Caitlyn, Vi, Jinx, Ekko, Heimerdinger, and Singed (bald scientist/Viktor's mentor). The story is all original and deviates so far from the "original canon" that this is basically its own universe, but definitely still stays true with what has already been established and is actually continuing things that were hinted in game (The CaitxVi ship has been a thing for like 9 years now, ever since Vi was first released)
That being said Riot can simply just say fk it and integrate this lore into the original canon. Reason why it's not the original canon is that some of the character's ages and adventures are all over the place, and it'd be hard to make them all connect coherently, remember that League is a 13 year old game with just under 170 champions all in their own regions in the world with different power dynamics, power systems, societies, and cultures, Piltover and Zaun is actually the closest thing we have to reality in the lore
The lore tells the major events and various fates of the characters. An example here being when a certain champion first meets Jinx in game, he tells her "Faces fading in the flames. It was all her fault" this voice line was added in 2018 and we only got the explanation through Arcane. So a lot of gears are already turning and the game with its lore are used as the blueprint so just do not to look up anything about the actual champions in League and season 2 in general.
I feel like Vi's obsession with saving Powder is the display of her trauma. It was the last thing she failed to do in such an obvious way immediately Vander's last words telling her to do that, and for 7 years she has thought of nothing else, completely unable to move on
How can you hate on Silco? He did bad things, but with good intentions and he LOVED Jinx! He understood Vander in the end... It is okay to NOT like him, but to hate him? That is weird IMO
Yes, the mad scientist is Singed, the mouse and cat dude. He's the creator of Shimmer, the drug uou see everywhere in the undercity. He was badly burned in episode 3.
2:39 yes, he is from EP.1 he is wearing that thing and wraps around him because he got burned in the explosion in EP.3 (also nobody says it except the captions, but his name is singed, and he is also a character from the game)
what i love about this show is no one is morally correct/wrong all of the time like they're humans all of their decisions are grey no 100% right or wrong, even the "villains" i can understand their povs to some extent no one is comically purely evil or good
Singeds Daughter is not in the show. But she is a Character in the Game. Her story tl:DR a kind girl with a disease causing her to die young. Her life was preserved by her father replacing dying body parts with prosthetics. And in the end we got a robot balerina Oriana. professor Singed is responsible for creating quite a few characters
Silco 100% loved Jinx, i would even go as far to say Silco loved her more then VI. Silco was the only Person that accepted how Jinx was, VI did not. He gave up his only dream just for Jinx, and i think the "you are Perfect" scene of his showd that perfectly
The thing about Silco is yes, he's manipulative, but he does genuinely care. When Vi tells Jinx to remember who she is, it's actually aggravating her trauma to almost a complete breaking point and he tries to stop it. He spends the whole series trying to keep her head in a good place because he can see her instability, and because Vi wasn't around she doesn't realize how bad it is and that she's doing the wrong thing at the time. Everyone in this series does the wrong thing constant. Super flawed characters and that's really why it is so good.
Silko is not psychopatic murderer. He is extremly ruthless leader with "ends justyfying means" approach - can call him "evil" but not evil for evil sake. And he could be the "best of all evils" - his strategy had quite a good chance of success and he maintainted some kind of peace. Alternatives were full subjugation to Piltover with no prospect of freedom, rule of completly self-interested warlords like chem barons or finally, revolutionaries and chaos mongers like Jinx with full scale war.
Finally - death of Silco breaks a chance for peace. He would not get Jinx, but it was just part of the first offer. In negotiation this kind of demand is usually not essential one and he propably could buy it out with some tradeoffs.
His death is good for a story, concluding quite a few arcs, we could say it is good fate for evil person, but it also is tragedy for Jinx, breaking her last reason to try and propably very negative thing for Zaun population (and possibly Piltover too)
villain gets shot by his daughter, his last words "don't cry, you're perfect." the type of genuine supportive words she never got from her other family. oh this show KNOWS how to write complex characters.
I think it’s fascinating to read the comments of all the Silco-is-an-evil-groomer types. This perspective requires completely ignoring all kinds of contradictory evidence in the show, both obvious and subtle; not to mention weird pretzels of circular logic. And if you try to point out any of this, you can count on a saliva-flecked rage-filled denunciation in reply. It’s odd, because the only other character that even distantly approaches this level of audience polarization is Vi. Which is even more fascinating, because Silco and Vi are quite similar in many ways. There are several fleeting, subtle shots in the show that openly imply this similarity. Silco and Vi could very easily have been allies.
I would go so far as to suggest that this was Silco’s goal when he captured Vander; there’s plenty of evidence that he had no intention of killing Vi or the kids.
I fully expect a saliva-flecked rage-filled denunciation for saying all this; which is fine. Ultimately, the fact that Arcane has sparked this degree of emotional reactions speaks to how relevant and human this story truly is; the craft and care from the writers and animators is just…stunning. Despite the long wait for season 2, the universal sentiment I see from Arcane fans seems to be: “Riot, for the love of all that is holy, please don’t rush this! Don’t ruin what you’ve begun with these characters and this story and this world!”
It’s all a fascinating example of what good storytelling is capable of…
I'm a student in 3D animation and if you're wondering why the vilain are mostly build with sharp angles, the reason is :
In character design we use 3 basic forms:
Square, Triangle, Circle
each represent a type of personnality that is refleted in the way they look:
Squarish character (like Vander or Stoic from httyd) are Solid, Sturdy, Strong, Supportive, Reliable, Inflexible
Triangle (like Silco or Jafar in Aladdin) are Sharp, directional, Dynamic, Dangerous, Unpredictable (elongating them makes them more scary)
Round characters (like Claggor or Heimerdinger) are soft, harmless, approchable
You can also mix shapes to give more ideas about the character
Vi for example is both squarish but also triangle (especially her jaw) since she's both reliable but also sharp and quick!
Hope this helps 😁
Arcane season 1 was absolutely wild, can't wait for November 2024
Council member survival predictions! Skip this comment if you don't want possible spoilers!
I think Viktor and Jayce will live. Viktor will probably be injured and resort to more ✨extreme measures✨to fix himself.
Mel is so dead, her arc kind of completed when she rejected her family's war-mongering ways at the end there. It'll be great motivation for Jayce moving forward, and her death will also make Mel's mom a PROBLEM in season 2.
I think Cait's mom is for sure dead too, because that would be great motivation for Caitlin.
The rest of the council can go either way, a couple of them will live because it would be weird and awfully convenient if only Viktor and Jayce survive. majority will be dead though, I think.
I really think people need to re-evaluate what the actual situation was prior to the rebellion at the start of the show. Heimerdinger, leading the council of Piltover, led Piltover to pollute Zaun's waters and air, to create a caste system with elites and underlings, to prohibit trade routes from being used by Zaun. Heimerdinger is a totalitarian abuser, not a "goodie". He's the REAL villain. Sure, Silco's methods were harsh, but look at history, children worked in munitions factories in nearly every European country during war. He's a flawed man, but he's nowhere near the bad guy. Vander was a traitor and sellout who condemned future children to bear what he wouldn't because he was weak. Did he think that Zaunites would just keep being Piltover's underclass happy breathing in their pollution?
Late to this series but really liked watching your reaction. Great editing and loved all the nods to the great music and sound design throught. Folks usually focus on the animation (and for good reason, it's outstanding), but the show also has remarkable audio and most people never mention it!
Also wanted to say that I'm suprised to see sooo many people in these comments batting for SIlco lol. He was certainly a well written and nuanced character, but overall he was a very evil person (child murdering drug kingpin) and although he loved Jinx he did so in an extremely toxic and self serving way. Totally valid to be glad he's dead, also totally valid to find his death sad/tragic.
Anyway, very entertaining videos (and lovely voice) and I'm really glad I found this channel. Looking forward to S2 and seeing your takes on it.
Lol in ep 8 you lauded Mel for saying that there might be a diplomatic solution, and scorned Jayce for killing a kid.
Then in episode 9 you scoff at Jayce for meeting with Silco and pursuing a diplomatic solution.
Seems to me you are the one that might need to make up her mind, and not Jayce 😂
Truer words could not have been said 😂
Love your reactions!!! 😭💘 Yesterday I saw the first 2 videos and today you uploaded this one, how lucky I am😂
Thanks ☺️ enjoy the video!
Her reaction really bad on silcos character for sure
If you think about it Jinx might really be a jinx. In the final moments of the finale, the council finally agreed to establish Zaun's independence, just for Jinx to blow it up with her rocket. Potentially starting another war between Piltover & Zaun. I also can't see Mal's mother not seeking retribution for the potential death of her daughter.
Earlier in the show, they mention how Hextech may be capable of thinking/adapting and during the fight scene with Jayce and Vi, I'm pretty sure we see Jayce's hammer produce a shield to protect him. Because of that, there's a theory that Viktor, Jayce, and maybe Mal might survive. Since Viktor had his hammer with him during the final scenes, and Viktor is still connected to the Hexcore.
Finally, in those last few moments where we cut to all the different characters, on Singed's (Mad Scientist guy). We can see someone hanging above him. It's theorized that it's Vander, and Singed is experimenting on him.
Also, Jinx designed the rocket as a shark because that was Silco's favorite animal.
I would give them all the time they need if it means the quality of writing, art direction, and animation are the same. Cause its one of a kind
What happened to this channel? Why did she quit reacting?
Just saw your first two videos yesterday. Your reaction's so real and I love to see reactions from people that don't know the game! Riot never disappoints with their animations ^_^
I don't understand why people only dislike silco. Maybe people's perception of Silco changes based on how they grew up and lived. For me while i haven't grown up poor per se I'm definitely lower on the food chain money wise. In my eyes while Silco is most certainly not a good person he did what he had to do to gain independence for the undercity. While Shimmer is something that needs to be regulated it also improved many people's lives in my eyes. Idk I see why everyone in and from the undercity did what they did. Victor taking that final step he refused to cross because it was in his eyes the only way to improve his health. Most disabled people (me included) understand and have felt that before. Again idk how everyone else sees all those characters.
There are characters they can't kill, they're not who you think, they did really good job of giving detail to characters in the game and characters not in the game, so if you've never played the game, you really don't know who is safe and who isn't.
Best character driven narrative and deaths since the first seasons of game of thrones
I would say that Jayce has a believable and understandable emotional response to events he encountered. Jinx attacked and stole gemstone? He tighten their security. Jinx killed a lot of enforcers? He’s enraged and ready to go to war. His actions led to the death of a child? He immediately backpedals, understanding what Mel said. Problem is that all he did was reacting instead of being proactive. But it’s not his fault when actions should have been taken long before he became councillor
"yer, nah, yer, nah, yer,. yer yer, nah, yer nah nah, yer" best review ever and so auzzie. :P
"NO, GOD, PLEASE, NO!' indeed! Can't wait!
I think you kind of accidentally agreed with Jayce's move to take Heimer off the council. When Heimer was so sad and wandering in the undercity and you asked "So what is he banished? Does he have to live down here?", no, he isn't banished, but "down there" is still part of the city that he has presided over for like a hundred years. That awful undercity filled with crime and drugs developed under his leadership, and he is supposed to be responsible for those citizens as well. But he didn't do anything about it for generations, because he was content being slow, safe, and scholarly. You agreed with the sentiment shortly after when Jayce accidentally killed the kid, "We've abandoned these people, do something about it." That's *exactly* why I think Heimer deserved to be ousted from leadership, he's been in charge since the inception of the nation.
That's actually why I love this show thow. Even though I think Heimer was a bad leader, he is a *good person*, a sweet little man full of curiosity and care. The directly evil characters even are completely understandable for their motivations with the lives they've lead. Nobody is pure black or white, and I LOVE it.
Since 2021 I’ve been living through reactions to season 1, so thank you for letting me relive it through you
The Voice actors really popped off in the final episodes, especially Ella Purnell as Jinx! So much pain and turmoil in her voice
also Few scenes hit hard if you know lore or dissect them that I really like:
-Ekko vs Jinx end of the fight - close childhood friends, Ekko has lines that he had feelings for her, and her smiling before dropping the grenade as she's in "clear thoughts" and a super quick sound queue that sounds like metal being hit, hinting at the grenade being kicked away by Ekko.
-Vi and Caitlyn scene on the bed, Vi's story lines up with her being the monster that showed up before she ran away. She hates what she did to Powder, but she also doesn't know how to approach or fix things because she's never learned how to deal with anything except to punch things and has been in jail for so long.
-Viktor running for the first time, out pacing the boats in the background when in his past he couldn't catch the toy boat.
Oh and Nicnacs there is now a 15 second teaser for season 2 on UA-cam
There is a fantastic documentary series called " Bridging the Rift" about the creation process of Arcane. The 6 years includes development and rewrites. Supposedly it is taking 3 years this time because they weren't sure it was going to be a success.
In the game, it is disclosed that Ekko had a crush on Powder. He even had a line where he says "I used to be in love with you, until you started talking to the gun." That makes their fight in the bridge even sadder.
There is a five-part, behind-the-scenes making of Arcane here on UA-cam called Bridging the Rift. I highly recommend anyone who is a fan of the show watching it. I found it VERY inspirational and I even teared up a couple times while watching it.
Dont worry, remember the shining armor Mel is wearing?
Thats an ingame item in LoL, It shields members of the Solaris nation.
( She didnt take it off even while doing the do with Jayce so im betting its that).
Without playing the game you wouldnt know but Ekko can slightly rewind time, hence the stopwatch he had. He likely changed the outcome of the fight vs Jinx at least 3 times....she got him...but she didnt.
Hey I just wanted to comment on how you were saying Vi hadn't changed much since being in prison all those years. I was stuck in a violent abusive relationship for 6 years and still retained who I was at my core -- this does not happen for everyone, but with the right mental fortitude and a strong sense of self it can. I was prepared for that relationship through a very turbulent childhood in which I watched my mother be subjected to abuse and was also subjected to abuse as well as a child. We were also homeless living on the streets for a year, and I was also bullied badly in middle school. These things shaped my character in a way that allowed me the ability to still essentially remain myself under extreme conditions. Vi not changing much is just a testament to her toughness and her strong personality. She was already prepared for the hell of prison through the loss of their parents, the fights she was getting into as a teen, and then of course what happened in episode 3. Plus she was brought up by Vander, whose influence has had MASSIVE impact on who she is. To me it is believable character writing.
Ekko is, without a question, my favorite character. Schnee did a great video about him, which really hammered home why I like him so much.
Vi got lucky with Jayce. She's the better fighter, by far...but her gloves aren't weapons. And she doesn't really know how they work. Jayce has a device DESIGNED as a weapon, and he knows what it does (because he fuckin built it...AND her gloves). Vi is basically bringing a knife to a gunfight, in that instance. She didn't stand a chance if he'd actually pushed the issue.
That said, there was never any chance that Jayce was going to actually do it, not after just killing a child. It was everything he could muster not to just vomit right there. Killing that kid destroyed him. As it should, anyone. Vi's rationalization of it is really pretty disgusting, honestly. She's not explicitly incorrect about it, but she basically did exactly what she hates Silco for. Silco does some evil shit, but he's got a reason...possibly even a good-enough reason. It doesn't make what he does right or acceptable, but it makes sense. Vi...just wants her sister back, and wants revenge on Silco. That's it. And she's apparently willing to steamroll children who get in her way. To me, that's just worse.
2:38 yes he is and he has covered face, beocuse in 3th episode, when powder used blue cristals to detonate half of the building, it make that purple fluid burn and while this explosion, this man was in his lab and we can see how flames go into him
I like the theory that the series end there because it's about the years of peace between Piltover and Zaun, it starts on the last battle of the previous war, and ends the very second peace is broken to the point of no return.
Haha I also recommended Arcane to my brother... I had to bugger him for a year plus to watch it. Eventually we watched it together with my family and he said he liked it and recommended it to somebody else. I think a lot of people are turned off by it being an animation and a game show (those notoriously work out well) but you can watch it completely without knowing any of the characters.
This show has been through every react channel under the sun and left a big impact I feel. To this day I search for new reactors, no other show has left me with this sort of obsession that's for sure. When season 2 drops, now that we know what kind of quality to expect... shit's gonna blow up and you can't avoid it. The show is just so unique and cool and there's literally nothing like it.
I think it makes sense that Vi's personality hadn't really changed much the entire time she's been in prison.
She's been in the same old cell for around 7 years with nothing really changing in that cell & prison. And so, she also doesn't change. Powder & what happened is all she could think of while stuck in there. No closure at all.
I can't explain it well but her time in prison has this metaphor of stasis & stagnation, which fits in super well with the prison being called Stillwater!! Stagnation! Omg, I just realized that while typing this. So, the outside world had changed so much while everything inside the prison hadn't.
Shimmer is shown to be “bad” but it’s not entirely bad. In small amounts, it has healing properties and can strengthen organic matter, like people. After all, that is the whole point of it, just pushed to an extreme.
Also, disappointed you skipped over Viktor’s “We failed to do good” quote, and Silco’s final words to Jinx showing his great character arc closing, but good reaction over all.
Okay so, the half-burned man. He is known by the name of "Singed", he's the one that gave Viktor the Shimmer (purple stuff) and the one that saved Powder's life after her fight with Ekko.
We met him pre-burn in the first three episodes. He is the creator of Shimmer. You may remember him as the man who was with Silco at the end of the first episode, when they tested Shimmer on the rat. In the third episode, he was in the warehouse when Powder's bomb went off, thus, the burns.
In terms of his "daughter", I assumed he was referring to Rio, that giant axolotl-looking thing from Viktor's backstory. Singed raised Rio, and kept her alive when she was sick and dying. Of course, keeping Rio alive, meant mutating her further and further until she was barely recognizable. Now kept on the brink of life, motionless, floating in a stasis tank. One can assume that Shimmer comes from Rio herself, or is a result of Singed's experimentation, as he tried & found ways to keep her alive.
So, When Singed said to Silco "I too, once had a daughter" I figured, he was saying he knows the pain of seeing a "daughter" change, become corrupted, right before your eyes, he spared Silco from watching the horrible process Powder had to go through for her life to be spared.
Heimerdinger very much DID deserve to be chucked out of the council. He was complacent, living in an ivory tower, and ruled over under city of Zaun's decay. He was ignorant of the undercity's welbeing; whether he was willfully ignorant or otherwise is irrelevant. Due to his position, cuteness does not excuse the incompetent stewardship of half the city. He does deserve a redemption, but he so deserved to be yeeted from his position.
The writers' strike shouldn't be a problem because this isn't Hollywood, is Riot Games working in a partnership with an independent studio
Did you notice Vander hanging up in the evil scientist’s lab at the end when the missile was approaching the council?
The title is so relatable!😭 I remember it plain as day when this show came out and I first saw the last ep I literally threw my tv remote across the room and was yelling “WHAT!?! NO WAY, WHYYYYY!?!”😭😭😭 and everyday since I’ve been waiting patiently for s2 & finally looks like we’ll be getting it next year🥳
If I was watching it on my tv I probably would’ve thrown my remote too haha
@@nicsandnacs 😂😂😂
We don’t see Singed’s (mad scientist) daughter. She’s in the game, but you get why he’s a mad scientist now and why he’s so obsessed with his mutation and making sure it lives.
The man that is covering half his face and gave Viktor shimmer is Singed. He’s the scientist from the first 3 episodes. When Powder blew up Silco’s headquarters Singed was working and got well… singed… hence why he covers his face.
Side note on Singed: We don’t actually know for sure what the line, “I too once had a daughter,” will mean for the lore. We don’t know who is Singed’s daughter is based on the lore we have, it’s thought to be a girl named Orianna (a league of legends champion), but we already know who her father is so it’s unlikely that Singed is talking about her.