L Systems : Creating Plants from Simple Rules - Computerphile

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  • From simple rules, complex 'organisms' can emerge. PhD candidate Zachariah Garby has been studying the papers to find out what it's all about.
    This was formerly called: Digital Plants (L-Systems)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 82

  • @georgetownsend1479
    @georgetownsend1479 3 місяці тому +79

    Props to the presenter for breaking down L systems in such an accessible way - he did a great job explaining the concept and its applications. Super interesting stuff!

  • @raedev
    @raedev 3 місяці тому +7

    I have been waiting for more procedural generation-centric computerphile videos for like 10 years, glad to see something so actively close to it! making things out of randomnes and simple rules is so fun, it's why it's my specialty when it comes to programming: it's just so much fun to tweak one value and see something completely different, but very much of the same type, all coming from *pure randomness*.

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 3 місяці тому +50

    I have a copy of "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" by Przemyslaw Prusinkiewicz and Aristid Lindenmayer. It was my introduction to L-Systems. It's a prize book in my collection of esoteric books.
    [edit] I just checked and found a PDF copy on the Internet Archive.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 3 місяці тому +5

      See... sometimes youtuber comments are actually a educational gold mine... things like that have molded how I see the world better, sometimes aiding me see ahead of future markets. Cheers.

    • @vincei4252
      @vincei4252 3 місяці тому +3

      @@dertythegrower Sadly I had to check that my comment wasn't deleted/hidden by the overlords who's aim seems to be preventing the dissemination of information unless it's curated by them.

    • @rdf256
      @rdf256 3 місяці тому +2

      That book is underrated. It led me to write L-system parsers in Perl back in the day, Perl being well suited for such things (and not much else 😉).

    • @shauas4224
      @shauas4224 2 дні тому

      That book is a literal gold. Got me mesmerized first time I saw it

  • @andrewharrison8436
    @andrewharrison8436 3 місяці тому +10

    That's strangely satisfying.
    I thought "Cow Parsley" quite early on but the final drawing was beyond my expectation.

  • @leobattle9489
    @leobattle9489 3 місяці тому +24

    PhD candidate Zachariah Garby 🗣🔥

  • @0x1F9F1
    @0x1F9F1 3 місяці тому +16

    The first of hopefully many videos from Zac "Monad" Garby!

    • @zacgarby3113
      @zacgarby3113 3 місяці тому +1

      So you know how L-systems form a monad…..

  • @theloremaster9544
    @theloremaster9544 3 місяці тому +11

    This is a very cool subject! One time I booped Zac’s snoot with a medieval bopper. The lil scratchy is part of my legacy and you can see it on his nose in this video

  • @GilesBathgate
    @GilesBathgate 3 місяці тому +9

    Seems like plants are Turing complete. Next question, does it run doom?

    • @neilbru
      @neilbru 3 місяці тому +1

      And then, as is tradition, "But can it run Crysis?"

  • @fiskebent
    @fiskebent 3 місяці тому +1

    Great presentation. It reminded me of some of the (non-plant) fractal curves that can be generated by line segment substitution. Like the Hilbert curve and Koch curve.

  • @yaseminyilmaz1648
    @yaseminyilmaz1648 3 місяці тому +7

    There goes my hero

  • @rachel_rexxx
    @rachel_rexxx 3 місяці тому +3

    One of discrete math's real world applications (in biology). Neat.

  • @dkgndianko
    @dkgndianko 3 місяці тому

    This reminds me the project we had in Algorithms at the end of the second semester my first year at university. It was amazing to draw L-system simulations using Pascal programming language.

  • @sanamorii
    @sanamorii 3 місяці тому +10

    garby sweep

  • @Meuszik
    @Meuszik 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video!

  • @harriehausenman8623
    @harriehausenman8623 3 місяці тому +4

    Great topic well presented! Please more about L-Systems, grammars and generalisations of it! 🤗

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver 3 місяці тому +2

    Brilliant!

  • @wybewestra7050
    @wybewestra7050 9 днів тому

    There is a game called "cell lab" that simulates cells, division and differentiation. It's surprising how complex the organisms can get starting from just one cell and a few simple rules.

  • @user-eu2bd6ht1q
    @user-eu2bd6ht1q 3 місяці тому +4

    I ❤ ZMG and I ❤ Cow Parsley. Want more of him

  • @mulad
    @mulad 3 місяці тому

    Reminds me of playing around with tree shapes in Fractint back in the '90s

  • @LegendHD
    @LegendHD 2 місяці тому

    спасибо

  • @edupe6185
    @edupe6185 2 місяці тому

    This guy seems so nice!

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari Місяць тому +1

    Could this link to cell signaling during development?

  • @dru6809
    @dru6809 3 місяці тому

    Very cool

  • @dragolov
    @dragolov 3 місяці тому

    Respect!

  • @kaushaltimilsina7727
    @kaushaltimilsina7727 3 місяці тому

    These "formal rewrite systems", is what they have been working on at Wolfram Physics Project.

  • @markjfannon
    @markjfannon 3 місяці тому

    the king

  • @ishanbhatt6067
    @ishanbhatt6067 3 місяці тому

    Lovely

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari Місяць тому +1

    Is this process reversible?

  • @markwilliams2192
    @markwilliams2192 3 місяці тому +4

    zac garby 🔛🔝 fp lab sweep

  • @flamingpi2245
    @flamingpi2245 3 місяці тому +1

    We just learned about L systems in a programming class

  • @amywyvern3924
    @amywyvern3924 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the video. That reminds me the I first time I coded a tree shape in LOGO 🐢 (memories). It made me want to learn more about fractals and programming languages.

  • @PrinceBrosnan
    @PrinceBrosnan 2 місяці тому

    🌷

  • @lilb07
    @lilb07 3 місяці тому +1

    Is this related to fractal geometry?

    • @yesterdaysrose5446
      @yesterdaysrose5446 3 місяці тому +1

      It's at very least in the same vein of iterative generation techniques.
      I'm pretty sure L-systems were included in the fractal generator I used back in the day (Fractint, I think?)

    • @zacgarby3113
      @zacgarby3113 3 місяці тому +2

      It totally is, yeah. These trees are fractal in nature, and you can also generate your standard fractals (Hilbert curves, Sierpinski striangles, etc etc) using L-systems. I've got some nice examples of this in the code listed in the description if you're interested.

  • @NocturnalJin
    @NocturnalJin 3 місяці тому +3

    I didn't think we were allowed to say KACBCAK on UA-cam.

    • @orcu
      @orcu 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, it is about growing plants. Jokes aside L-Systems were available in very early Houdini versions and were used for plant generation in movies

  • @YuTv1408
    @YuTv1408 3 місяці тому +1

    Maybe thats why San Jose is called The Silicon Valley. . Not the Bilogy Valley. But you preffer to have cells versus electrons in your iphones. I guess Biology is greater than materials science also right.

  • @play005517
    @play005517 3 місяці тому

    it remindes me of parsing and an EBNF grammar looks like an L-system.

  • @FrohnJusciante
    @FrohnJusciante 3 місяці тому

    So A=B and C=D? Why not using the same name or am I missing something? Great video though

    • @zacgarby3113
      @zacgarby3113 3 місяці тому +4

      Thank you!
      While A and B are rendered in the same way, they map to different sequences, so play different structural/developmental roles.

  • @saiello2061
    @saiello2061 3 місяці тому

    I now know what L-Systems are about 😁.

  • @nicksamek12
    @nicksamek12 3 місяці тому

    14:20 reminds me of arabidopsis

  • @Amonimus
    @Amonimus 3 місяці тому

    These shapes can get quite complicated, but the rules are simple, so it's not unlikely seed/fetus cells work this way.

  • @MichaelPiz
    @MichaelPiz 3 місяці тому

    Read _A New Kind of Science_ by Stephen Wolfram. He takes simple recursive "machines" like this to amazing places, including considering whether nature actually implements such rules.

  • @mp_rho
    @mp_rho 3 місяці тому +2

    looks just like grammars up until you start associating characters with little drawings

    • @zacgarby3113
      @zacgarby3113 3 місяці тому +5

      Yup! They're essentially context-free grammars except you make all rule substitutions simultaneously.

  • @MusicMadtm
    @MusicMadtm 3 місяці тому +3

    leaves are cool but phd candidate zachariah garby is cooler

  • @bertblankenstein3738
    @bertblankenstein3738 3 місяці тому

    The amoeba logo and L instantly made me think Debian Linux.

  • @user-hd3pz2ow1b
    @user-hd3pz2ow1b 23 дні тому

    interesting

  • @theanttman
    @theanttman 3 місяці тому +2

    Ummm... where is the brown paper?

  • @MazinManCW
    @MazinManCW 3 місяці тому

    Took an L system last night in twisted towers

  • @plutoh28
    @plutoh28 3 місяці тому

    more like a W system

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges 3 місяці тому

    Looks exactly like cow-parsley.

  • @yash1152
    @yash1152 3 місяці тому

    3:59 so, we in greek now?
    alp, bet, 'c', del, kap ?

  • @ptousig
    @ptousig 3 місяці тому

    Your clock is broken.

  • @ethangold4900
    @ethangold4900 3 місяці тому +1

    L-systems? More like W-systems

  • @MatthewatCourseCareers
    @MatthewatCourseCareers 3 місяці тому

    Hey Computerphile - We sent you an email about a paid partnership. Let me know what you think.

  • @Monothefox
    @Monothefox 3 місяці тому

    Sponsored by Office Depot.

  • @monkeybarmonkeyman
    @monkeybarmonkeyman 3 місяці тому +1

    So funny... who makes the rules eh?

  • @pyroMaximilian
    @pyroMaximilian 3 місяці тому

    The oddly-skewed, perspective-corrected segments were painful for me to watch. May I humbly ask that you kindly forgo that effect in future videos? Thank you.

  • @jacobgarby199
    @jacobgarby199 3 місяці тому +10

    first

  • @YuTv1408
    @YuTv1408 3 місяці тому +3

    Biology is walk in the park compared to computer science. Anyone can regurgitate information. Few can interpret and really understand it.( like math, physics, cs and engineering).

    • @jacobgarby199
      @jacobgarby199 3 місяці тому +10

      what are you on about

    • @PRIMARYATIAS
      @PRIMARYATIAS 3 місяці тому +2

      Check computational biology and you will see how far more complex biology is compared to Math, CS, EE, ME,etc… (research in this field actually fuses those disciplines together).

    • @yaseminyilmaz1648
      @yaseminyilmaz1648 3 місяці тому +2

      Goofy take

    • @mp_rho
      @mp_rho 3 місяці тому +3

      should've ended with "Biology is walk in the park compared to computer science." the statement was true up until this point. in a literal sense.

    • @YuTv1408
      @YuTv1408 3 місяці тому

      NPC_morons get upset when you tell the truth hu? Computational Biology is No Longer just Biology. NOTHING IS HARDER THAN Math or Physics people!!!