All this time; Strangereal wasn't even the name of the world given by Namco?! So basically; that AC7 tweet pretty much confirms Namco was paying attention to the fans. Where is muh Ace Combat 4,5,6,0,X remasters Namco?!
@@airbornefilip9139 There's a remake of 2 already, it's called Assault Horizon Legacy, for 3DS And for me, 4 through 6 are all good enough games already, 1 and 3 do need a remake
Today I learned that Strangereal's countries and continents are a cleverly-distorted version of our own, with the great lakes still noticeable in Strangereal 3.
It's not just the Great Lakes. If you look you can see that the SR3 supercontinents are just further modified from the SR2 supercontinents. If you look on the west side of the Yuke continent, you can still see that Europe shape, with the Nordic region above it and a heavily distorted african shape below it. And if you look at the SR2 eastern continent, if you look closely enough you can see that the northern half still has a North/Central America shape(that bulge on the bottom where Oured would be located would be that eastern part of Mexico that stretches out into the Atlantic and creates the Gulf of Mexico, and that small bulge at the north of that sea would be Florida).
the great lakes are right next to Belka and then there are islands by what would be south america that are in the shape of lake michigan, superior, and huron
It's called retconning. PA has never been good at world building so they've just hit the redo button a few times. Usea changes just about every game or so.
USEA in AC2... vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/a/ad/Unbenannt.png/revision/latest?cb=20190208201226 USEA in AC4... vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/f/f9/Unbenannt2.png/revision/latest?cb=20190208201307
MobiusLeader007 Why does almost all discussion of Strangereal never ever talk about the Aurelian-Leasath war or the countries? Especially what happened to Leasath after the war....
Unfortuately, despite how well thought out this theory is, there are some holes. 1) Ace Combat 6 makes a reference to Ace Combat 4. That refernence being that, in Yellow Jacket's assault record, it makes a reference to the Ulysses Incident affecting his original home, Usea. 2) Ace Combat 3 technically never happened. I'm not spoiling anything, but the entire story shows that the story never happened. I guess technically that would also create a "Strangereal within a Strangereal" if you know what I mean. 3) All the stories are pretty interconnceted to one another in some way. Whether it's a reference in a conversation or in an assault record or if it's blantant backstory. Please note I'm not trying to shoot down the theory, I'm just making some opposing arguments. However, Air Combat definitely is set in a completely different, but still created universe.
Yep, although you did get one thing wrong, the events of the game as in the wars never happened, but the world does exist and these events are about to actually unfold.
It could be that Strangreal 3 just has the same (similar enough) history as Strangereal 1 and 2. Same major events happened in the same relative areas but the actual landmasses and locations on the planet are different
I'd say that the three strangereals are less a matter of alternate universes or something like that, and more just a matter of retcons to the shape of the land. Ace Combat 3D/Assault Horizon Legacy particularly supports this idea, being a remake of Ace Combat 2, but set in "Strangereal 3" to match the rest of the more recent games. Probably really just a matter of the rest of the world not getting fleshed out until Ace Combat 5 because until then, all of the story was focused exclusively on Usea.
something worth noting is that in the japanese version of ace combat 3, USEA is said to be an acronym for united states of euro-asia. so the map of strangereal 2 resembling our earth might be intentional for some weird reason even though it doesnt make sense geographically. good thing they retconned it with AC5.
We've yet to see Sotoa and all the other nations around Yuktobania in a AC game, hopefully Ace Combat 8 will feature them, could make for an interesting story 😛
TL;DR: Coordinates presented in games (such as at 4:56) don't appear to be correct anyway, unless the maps we have are incorrect. Detailed explanation below. Regarding the actual position of the coordinates - neither map seems to correspond to either game. Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy+ (which is based on AC2) presents the coordinates (seen at 4:56) as 19.8 N and 284.1 E (which should be 75.3 W). That's much further south than the guidebook map shows. However, Ace Combat 04 presents the coordinates at 39.6 N and 103.7 E. This latitude is in between the guidebook and the "Strangereal 3" maps, though the longitude seems to be approximately correct assuming the prime meridian is through the center of Osea, as the map is typically displayed. Doing some rough calculations based on the actual positions of the island on the maps, the actual (approximate) coordinates of Megalith should be 52.0 N, 25.7 W, on the "Strangereal 2" guidebook map, and 11.4 N, 104.7 E on the "Strangereal 3" map (assuming that the center of each map is 0,0 and that both maps are complete). So again, neither game's coordinates seem to be correct unless the maps we have are incorrect. These are fantastic videos by the way, I love watching them and I look forward to each one!
Well, Belka kinda DID suffer from economic strife after Project Pendragon aka building the X-BO and Excalibur. Stonehenge was built through international collaboration. Osea and Yuktobania are superpowers so they are gonna get their way. Erusea's Megalith and Estovakia's Aerial Fleet/Chandelier do not make much sense though...
@@MobiusLeader007 chandelier was started by an international coalition before Ulysses but was never finished even after estovakia took control and got it running, half of the r&d on the agaion could be forgone because estovakia got the designer for xb0 after the belkan war and megalith was probably also highly incomplete
Don't forget people the Aigaion, Kottos, and Gyges that Estovakia used in the Anea war to combat Emmaria was manufactured with the help of a defector from Belka named Lorenz Riedel who was in the same mission flying an SU-33. He was formerly part of gault Squadron and helped develop the Hresvelgr.
I don't know about that. That seems very far fetched for a theory. To be honest it could just be the fact that the Ace Combat world was never fully thought out and/or finalized until the creation of Ace Combat 5. In the early Ace Combats they just kind of scrambled a map together for a user interface and so it all feels connected. And starting in AC4, they finally started getting an idea of what they wanted but it was still only a concept. And then with AC5, they finally set something in stone. Doing multiple universes would just over complicate things. I wouldn't take coordinates in the games too seriously sense the Ace Combat world map during AC4 was still in it's early stages of development and ideas.
@@SuperGeronimo999 the map is only part of it, i mean the fact places had a distinct story worked into them and how they were presented, where Neucom and GR's HQs were, certain locations like the geofront, Megafloat etc, it was clearly a place with a lot of interesting stuff and history if you took notice.
When Strangereal 3 was first introduced in AC5, it was almost, but not complete. There were still some unmarked countries which appear on the following games. For example, Emmeria, Estovakia, and Nordennavik were still marked as Anea, Aurelia was marked as Griswall, the capital, and Ustio I believe were still marked as Dilectus/Directus. Anyway, I really enjoy this series. Please continue doing this! Maybe go deeper about the superweapons on the next video?
The bit with Anea as one country has been retconned as Nordennavic, Emmeria, and Estovakia pursuing a 'Republic of Anea' unification initiative that wasn't officially cancelled until some time after the Estovakian civil war began.
"Strangereal 2" and "Strangereal 3" are one and the same. It was simply a lack of foresight into the future of the series and what Project Aces actually wanted this fictional version of Earth to actually look like when they released AC04
That is one heck of a theory. I have one to talk about. Are general resource really Grunder industries reformed? Neucom is Erusian air and space. Can you elaborate on this theory in a new episode? It might be interesting.
Just a friendly reminder that Italy is an actual nation somewhere (prob europa) as referenced in AC7 when AWACS Long Caster invites their squad to an "Italian Bistro"
In my mind, there is no question that the real Earth exists in Ace Combat too, since we have real jets from the US, Europe and Russia. Also ACAH and Joint Assault playing in the real world. I just like to believe that Strangereal is a similar nearby planet and intergallactic travel is possible (Space Elevator, *cough cough)
I feel like the 2nd Ace Combat world pretty much looks like a cursed map, and I'm glad that it does. For this map really made me go in the fantasy worldbuilding
I think it's because they couldn't decide how to create the world since 1-4 and 3d were all In Usea and when they decided to branch out they created the final map
In the Japanese version of Drakengard1, a fighter called "Scarface1" shoots down a dragon at E-ending. This is because the production staff of Ace Combat 1 and 2 were involved. And the director of this game, Yoko Taro, is a former colleague of director Kono at NAMCO.
But in some way, the "Strangereal 2" and the "Strangereal 3" must be connected, the Ulysses's crysis happened also in Strangereal 3, in the files of the aces shot down in Ace Combat Zero, it is said that after participating at the Belkan War, one of the aces (don't remember who) moved to USEA to contribute to the construction of Stonehenge.
What you call Strangereal Two is jus an older map of the one and only Strangreal world we have today, they just updated the map in AC5. Stuff like this happens all the time.
I would like to see the same style in the new game where you can use multirole fighters. where you can pick your layouts but can mix and match. Ace Combat 6 is my all time favorite ! needs to have that need to hear for air support and than be called in as air superiority
Maybe they do like in gears of war Sera and change continents and countries shapes as the plot develops.... i mean you had global maps for strangreal and sera but in the case of sera the game developers sayed that was a map made for "having an idea" of where and who are the diferent nations.... but not definitive.
Strangereal looks like super fricked up earth because part of sotor looks like most of europe and the top of africa and wellow looks like greenland. And part of antartica looks like new zealand
Talk about Hamilton and his role in the plot of AC5, especially on the first cutscene, where the command misplaced the trainees and they got killed, is it possible that it was Hamilton who did it initially to weaken the Sand Island forces making it easier for their invasion?
There was thing I thought about the mission in ac4 where you are shooting down the cruise missles there is ice sheets all around but in strange real 3 map the top of usean continent is not at a high enough latitude
Problem with strangereal 2: Usea is the same in AC 2,4,,5, etc. And Strangereal 2 map got messed up. There were probably changes. Oh and you can’t see the islands up north of Erusea that are on the guidebook, in the game. Therefor map changes took place. Besides event can’t happen in 2 universes at the same time.
I am more attuned to the story of AC5 and AC Zero connections. AC4 Might be my favorite and first AC game. But it is so diffucult to chose between those 3 they are so good.
i love Ace Combat 2 and Ace combat 04 Shattered Skies official u.s PlayStation magazine issue 49 50 issue 85 Ace Combat 5 demo issue 103 Ace Combat Zero demo
I thought that Acecombat 2-7 could be considered part of the same Strangereal because they take place on Usea which can be seen in the "Strangereal 3" world map. I believe the coordinates and world map were just oversights by the developers in those games. I don't know, just my interpretation but it seems like that is a possibility to me until the developers make an official comment on this theory.
So here is a question. Do we had the stuff from 3 and 4 to strangereal 3 because it was developed before it officially came to be and the country was still added in or do we keep ace combat 4 separate from 5,0 and 6 historically speaking
Alban Zekthi 3 is most likely cannon to strangereal 3 because in one mission megafloat gets destroyed and in Ace Combat 4 In the special missions you actually see megafloat being built.
I'm pretty sure that when they created the new Strangereal, they just canonized it for everything. "Strangereal 3" is used in Ace Combat 5, and don't forget the Arcade Mode has Mobius One fighting Erusea for a second time. When Arcade's beaten, the announcer says "you've saved the skies of Usea once again," which means that it's happened before, and it's not an isolated Strangereal 3 event. I'm pretty sure that Strangereal 3 is just canon, and the older games just have some pre-popularity mistakes. It happens a lot, doesn't mean that they're all alternate universes. If they were to be remastered, they'd likely have Strangereal 3. Also, not sure how canon Air Combat is to Strangereal at all, it's changed up in America anyway. and Air Combat 22 doesn't even have a place named, does it?
Cisco Blue There is a theory that there is a 2nd earth (Sol 4B Terra) that is completely on the opposite side of the sun (180 degree's out of phase) that is sharing our orbit.
ok one thing that quiz's me today is Ulysses. we first hear mention of it in AC 4 and is referenced in the other games but my question is: when did Ulysses really happen?
Fairplayer37 it was discovered in 1994 and in 1995 (During the belkan war) it was estimated to impact in 1999. So they started to build stonehedge and megalith.
ACZ covers the war "15 years ago" and is also linked with AC5. The last interview with Larry shows that he was in USEA as a mercenary (infantrymen) fighting along side ISAF. Wikifadom states his last affiliation was with the Independent State Allied Forces. (Usean War 2004 - 2005) Also interviews take place in 2005. So would AC4 in the Strangereal 3 category or would this be a different Usea?
Strangereal Two is still better cause it features Old World(without Russian Far East,Korea,Oceania except New Zealand,Southeast Asia and Japan) and Osea. In my prediction Strangereal Four would be like Osea and Old World. This time with Original Old World.
What if after the Ulysses asteroid incident is broke most of the continent into more peices and help spread out the countries and give them there shape. Just a thought on my part.
It's would be a nice explanation, but still how did Anea keep its shape but shrink to half its size? Mine was continental shifts, and this being a VERY old map, just like our Earth was only one continent at one point too. But Anea totally destroys this... we should accept there is no logical canon explanation, and consider this as an early retconned attempt of a world map.
No, it's on Strangereal #3. Do you see the continent "ANEA" on the top left corner? It features both, Emmeria and Estovakia. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/e/ef/Anea_Map_September_2015.png/ But IMO there is only one Strangereal. The first game just didn't feature the whole world but took place on a very small part of the final map, the Skully Islands. Ace Combat 2 on the other hand played on the Usean Continent, which was the exact same with later versions. The map in Ace Combat 4's guide book is irrelevant in my opinion. It looks like a very early version and may show how the continents shifted from our world to Strangereal. After all, this is never depicted in the game at all.
Maybe I didn't make it too clear in the video but from Ace Combat 5 and after all games take place in Strangereal 3. As for AC 2, 3 and 4, they take place in both Strangereal 2 & 3 - reason for that is while these games were made only Strangereal 2 existed but after Strangereal 3 was created these games were brought to the Strangereal 3 universe as if they had happened there (that's why USEA has been resized and added to Strangereal 3).
Hello :D can I ask you a question? If the universe of strangereal 2 is not part of 3, then why in the missions of ace combat 7 in VR does mobius 1 appear? *I'm sorry for my english, I'm not very good*
i tell u the truth! ERUSEA r in ANEAN CONTINENTS,USEA R In Usean CONTINENTS,OSEA,BELKA,SAPIN,USTIO,AURELIA,LEASATH R IN OSEAN CONTINENTS,YUKTOBANIA AND THE OTHERS R ON YUKTOBANIAN CONTINENT!
All this time; Strangereal wasn't even the name of the world given by Namco?! So basically; that AC7 tweet pretty much confirms Namco was paying attention to the fans. Where is muh Ace Combat 4,5,6,0,X remasters Namco?!
And 2 and 3. And 1 while at it.
Oh they've been paying attention. They made a joke about always flying through tunnels in Ac6.
@@airbornefilip9139 There's a remake of 2 already, it's called Assault Horizon Legacy, for 3DS
And for me, 4 through 6 are all good enough games already, 1 and 3 do need a remake
@@MihzvolWuriar if you do want to play legacy, make sure you turn maneuvers off
@@philismenko I have the game, is there a way to turn it off?
Today I learned that Strangereal's countries and continents are a cleverly-distorted version of our own, with the great lakes still noticeable in Strangereal 3.
It's not just the Great Lakes. If you look you can see that the SR3 supercontinents are just further modified from the SR2 supercontinents. If you look on the west side of the Yuke continent, you can still see that Europe shape, with the Nordic region above it and a heavily distorted african shape below it. And if you look at the SR2 eastern continent, if you look closely enough you can see that the northern half still has a North/Central America shape(that bulge on the bottom where Oured would be located would be that eastern part of Mexico that stretches out into the Atlantic and creates the Gulf of Mexico, and that small bulge at the north of that sea would be Florida).
the great lakes are right next to Belka and then there are islands by what would be south america that are in the shape of lake michigan, superior, and huron
You are correct. Though all the games have been retconned into Strangereal Three.
It's called retconning. PA has never been good at world building so they've just hit the redo button a few times. Usea changes just about every game or so.
USEA in AC2...
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/a/ad/Unbenannt.png/revision/latest?cb=20190208201226
USEA in AC4...
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/f/f9/Unbenannt2.png/revision/latest?cb=20190208201307
That second map was such a mess hahahaha!! You didn't mention how the second map also has Aurelia and Leasath.
MobiusLeader007 Why does almost all discussion of Strangereal never ever talk about the Aurelian-Leasath war or the countries? Especially what happened to Leasath after the war....
Unfortuately, despite how well thought out this theory is, there are some holes.
1) Ace Combat 6 makes a reference to Ace Combat 4. That refernence being that, in Yellow Jacket's assault record, it makes a reference to the Ulysses Incident affecting his original home, Usea.
2) Ace Combat 3 technically never happened. I'm not spoiling anything, but the entire story shows that the story never happened. I guess technically that would also create a "Strangereal within a Strangereal" if you know what I mean.
3) All the stories are pretty interconnceted to one another in some way. Whether it's a reference in a conversation or in an assault record or if it's blantant backstory.
Please note I'm not trying to shoot down the theory, I'm just making some opposing arguments. However, Air Combat definitely is set in a completely different, but still created universe.
Yep, although you did get one thing wrong, the events of the game as in the wars never happened, but the world does exist and these events are about to actually unfold.
It could be that Strangreal 3 just has the same (similar enough) history as Strangereal 1 and 2. Same major events happened in the same relative areas but the actual landmasses and locations on the planet are different
3 did happen because the nemo was released into the real world to kill dision. . . its just set like 20-30 years after 7
I'd say that the three strangereals are less a matter of alternate universes or something like that, and more just a matter of retcons to the shape of the land. Ace Combat 3D/Assault Horizon Legacy particularly supports this idea, being a remake of Ace Combat 2, but set in "Strangereal 3" to match the rest of the more recent games. Probably really just a matter of the rest of the world not getting fleshed out until Ace Combat 5 because until then, all of the story was focused exclusively on Usea.
This was made pre AC7 which is reference heaven.
something worth noting is that in the japanese version of ace combat 3, USEA is said to be an acronym for united states of euro-asia. so the map of strangereal 2 resembling our earth might be intentional for some weird reason even though it doesnt make sense geographically. good thing they retconned it with AC5.
We've yet to see Sotoa and all the other nations around Yuktobania in a AC game, hopefully Ace Combat 8 will feature them, could make for an interesting story 😛
TL;DR: Coordinates presented in games (such as at 4:56) don't appear to be correct anyway, unless the maps we have are incorrect. Detailed explanation below.
Regarding the actual position of the coordinates - neither map seems to correspond to either game. Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy+ (which is based on AC2) presents the coordinates (seen at 4:56) as 19.8 N and 284.1 E (which should be 75.3 W). That's much further south than the guidebook map shows. However, Ace Combat 04 presents the coordinates at 39.6 N and 103.7 E. This latitude is in between the guidebook and the "Strangereal 3" maps, though the longitude seems to be approximately correct assuming the prime meridian is through the center of Osea, as the map is typically displayed.
Doing some rough calculations based on the actual positions of the island on the maps, the actual (approximate) coordinates of Megalith should be 52.0 N, 25.7 W, on the "Strangereal 2" guidebook map, and 11.4 N, 104.7 E on the "Strangereal 3" map (assuming that the center of each map is 0,0 and that both maps are complete). So again, neither game's coordinates seem to be correct unless the maps we have are incorrect.
These are fantastic videos by the way, I love watching them and I look forward to each one!
Here's a good topic how the hell do these countries build these super weapons without all going broke
Sabino Rodriguez Mayby strangereal has more GENERAL RESOURCES than our world XD
vincent eby *facepalm and cringe intensifies*
Well, Belka kinda DID suffer from economic strife after Project Pendragon aka building the X-BO and Excalibur. Stonehenge was built through international collaboration. Osea and Yuktobania are superpowers so they are gonna get their way. Erusea's Megalith and Estovakia's Aerial Fleet/Chandelier do not make much sense though...
@@MobiusLeader007 chandelier was started by an international coalition before Ulysses but was never finished even after estovakia took control and got it running, half of the r&d on the agaion could be forgone because estovakia got the designer for xb0 after the belkan war and megalith was probably also highly incomplete
by not paying workers
Ace combat 7 : I’m about to end this man’s whole career.
Don't forget people the Aigaion, Kottos, and Gyges that Estovakia used in the Anea war to combat Emmaria was manufactured with the help of a defector from Belka named Lorenz Riedel who was in the same mission flying an SU-33. He was formerly part of gault Squadron and helped develop the Hresvelgr.
I don't know about that. That seems very far fetched for a theory. To be honest it could just be the fact that the Ace Combat world was never fully thought out and/or finalized until the creation of Ace Combat 5.
In the early Ace Combats they just kind of scrambled a map together for a user interface and so it all feels connected. And starting in AC4, they finally started getting an idea of what they wanted but it was still only a concept. And then with AC5, they finally set something in stone.
Doing multiple universes would just over complicate things. I wouldn't take coordinates in the games too seriously sense the Ace Combat world map during AC4 was still in it's early stages of development and ideas.
Nah AC3 has a pretty fleshed out world on the Usean continent
AC2 you mean...
@@SuperGeronimo999 AC2 is the one where we see all of Usea physically for sure, 3 just shows us a really well defined and complex version of Usea.
In the japanese version? I honestly don't remember them showing us a map in AC3, aside from the pixelated version in the menu.
@@SuperGeronimo999 the map is only part of it, i mean the fact places had a distinct story worked into them and how they were presented, where Neucom and GR's HQs were, certain locations like the geofront, Megafloat etc, it was clearly a place with a lot of interesting stuff and history if you took notice.
When Strangereal 3 was first introduced in AC5, it was almost, but not complete. There were still some unmarked countries which appear on the following games. For example, Emmeria, Estovakia, and Nordennavik were still marked as Anea, Aurelia was marked as Griswall, the capital, and Ustio I believe were still marked as Dilectus/Directus. Anyway, I really enjoy this series. Please continue doing this! Maybe go deeper about the superweapons on the next video?
LightwithintheShadow Yeah, at least we already got more countries than before
The bit with Anea as one country has been retconned as Nordennavic, Emmeria, and Estovakia pursuing a 'Republic of Anea' unification initiative that wasn't officially cancelled until some time after the Estovakian civil war began.
"Strangereal 2" and "Strangereal 3" are one and the same. It was simply a lack of foresight into the future of the series and what Project Aces actually wanted this fictional version of Earth to actually look like when they released AC04
That is one heck of a theory. I have one to talk about.
Are general resource really Grunder industries reformed? Neucom is Erusian air and space. Can you elaborate on this theory in a new episode? It might be interesting.
Alban Zekthi I see. Thank you sir. Mind showing me the proof if that's okay.
Alban Zekthi Nope, no encyclopedias on here, thank you.
Andrew Rogers Told you that Gründer and GR aren't the same. :P
CPU Omega Heart You also said Neucom and EASA weren't the same. We told eachother :P
Andrew Rogers That's because I thought you were still talking shit that didn't make sense. :/
Just a friendly reminder that Italy is an actual nation somewhere (prob europa) as referenced in AC7 when AWACS Long Caster invites their squad to an "Italian Bistro"
In my mind, there is no question that the real Earth exists in Ace Combat too, since we have real jets from the US, Europe and Russia. Also ACAH and Joint Assault playing in the real world. I just like to believe that Strangereal is a similar nearby planet and intergallactic travel is possible (Space Elevator, *cough cough)
Very interesting, I had no clue about stancereal two. Thanks for the info.
Thank you for making these videos! They're really interesting and well done.
I feel like the 2nd Ace Combat world pretty much looks like a cursed map, and I'm glad that it does. For this map really made me go in the fantasy worldbuilding
I think it's because they couldn't decide how to create the world since 1-4 and 3d were all In Usea and when they decided to branch out they created the final map
I just noticed that Wellow is basically just Greenland, Iceland and Baffin Island
In the Japanese version of Drakengard1, a fighter called "Scarface1" shoots down a dragon at E-ending.
This is because the production staff of Ace Combat 1 and 2 were involved.
And the director of this game, Yoko Taro, is a former colleague of director Kono at NAMCO.
But in some way, the "Strangereal 2" and the "Strangereal 3" must be connected, the Ulysses's crysis happened also in Strangereal 3, in the files of the aces shot down in Ace Combat Zero, it is said that after participating at the Belkan War, one of the aces (don't remember who) moved to USEA to contribute to the construction of Stonehenge.
LoScorpioneRosso that would be Anton Kupchenko, formerly known as Gault 1.
That feeling when New Zealand is in Strangereal.
Kiwis are canon
Callsign-YukiMizuki I don't think it would be as habitable as it is here it's really south pretty much in Antarctica
I found usea in both strange real 2&3 maps
That explains the ice mission with northern lights in AC4. Hope they remaster AC4 to fit in the new world.
I think the most complete world is Strangereal 3 of course. It has included all nation in Ace Combat series.
Fallery Setyaprawira but notice it's more compact than earth suggesting it's less massive
Love finding some other Ace combat fans - so excited for AC 7 this year!
There is only one strangereal
what attention to detail man kudos
Ace Combat No Way Home
Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy on the Nintendo DS basically fixed the timeline issue on one of the Strangereals.
As a Michigan Native, I love how they didn't retcon the Great Lakes region looking like the irl version by the same name
4:30 it looks like a flooded version of South America... Greenland is intact up there, Japan is farther right and Australia merged at the tip of Chile
The arcade games of Air Combat, & Air Combat 22 r playable on Pioneer's Laserdisc.
What you call Strangereal Two is jus an older map of the one and only Strangreal world we have today, they just updated the map in AC5.
Stuff like this happens all the time.
That debunks there being 3 strangereals THANK YOU! Got a sub
I would like to see the same style in the new game where you can use multirole fighters. where you can pick your layouts but can mix and match. Ace Combat 6 is my all time favorite ! needs to have that need to hear for air support and than be called in as air superiority
Maybe they do like in gears of war Sera and change continents and countries shapes as the plot develops.... i mean you had global maps for strangreal and sera but in the case of sera the game developers sayed that was a map made for "having an idea" of where and who are the diferent nations.... but not definitive.
Strangereal looks like super fricked up earth because part of sotor looks like most of europe and the top of africa and wellow looks like greenland.
And part of antartica looks like new zealand
Talk about Hamilton and his role in the plot of AC5, especially on the first cutscene, where the command misplaced the trainees and they got killed, is it possible that it was Hamilton who did it initially to weaken the Sand Island forces making it easier for their invasion?
There was thing I thought about the mission in ac4 where you are shooting down the cruise missles there is ice sheets all around but in strange real 3 map the top of usean continent is not at a high enough latitude
Alban Zekthi lol I love how some snow missions take place near a desert mission For example: White noise and Desert arrow in ac5
I think that a post on the reddit showed that the coords in almost every game dont match up.
good vid, I look forward to the result
Yoh forgot about the meteor that smashed into strangreal
I may not like every video you post but I'm gonna subscribe.. Well Done..
Ace combat needs to do a super game like master chief that remasters and brings back their greatest hits
Strangereal is awesome! But... I don't have a country in Strangereal to call home.
Problem with strangereal 2: Usea is the same in AC 2,4,,5, etc. And Strangereal 2 map got messed up. There were probably changes. Oh and you can’t see the islands up north of Erusea that are on the guidebook, in the game. Therefor map changes took place. Besides event can’t happen in 2 universes at the same time.
The eastern osean continent does look a little bit like bosnia and hercegowina
Time for HD remake for Ace Combat 4, 5, belkan war and 6.
I am more attuned to the story of AC5 and AC Zero connections. AC4 Might be my favorite and first AC game. But it is so diffucult to chose between those 3 they are so good.
i love Ace Combat 2 and Ace combat 04 Shattered Skies official u.s PlayStation magazine issue 49 50 issue 85 Ace Combat 5 demo issue 103 Ace Combat Zero demo
I thought that Acecombat 2-7 could be considered part of the same Strangereal because they take place on Usea which can be seen in the "Strangereal 3" world map. I believe the coordinates and world map were just oversights by the developers in those games. I don't know, just my interpretation but it seems like that is a possibility to me until the developers make an official comment on this theory.
I like how Antarctica is the same
In the thumbnail I see that Iceland and Greenland Never changed xD
... Huh, never noticed that the Great Lakes + Michigan still geographically exist in Strangereal.
So here is a question. Do we had the stuff from 3 and 4 to strangereal 3 because it was developed before it officially came to be and the country was still added in or do we keep ace combat 4 separate from 5,0 and 6 historically speaking
Alban Zekthi 3 is most likely cannon to strangereal 3 because in one mission megafloat gets destroyed and in Ace Combat 4 In the special missions you actually see megafloat being built.
All games take place in the same universe search strangereal timeline.
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In strangereal 2, doesn't South America look like the southern Osean continent? With Aurelia and Lesath?
was there a cataclysmic event that shifted the continents
i hope ac7 has missions in megafloat
You forgot to include the original Strangereal. Skykid!
In all honesty, the first time I heard Strangereal it Refers to any fictional universe
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0:30 Did anyone see New Zealand at the bottom of the map?
Hard to see but yes I did
I'm pretty sure that when they created the new Strangereal, they just canonized it for everything.
"Strangereal 3" is used in Ace Combat 5, and don't forget the Arcade Mode has Mobius One fighting Erusea for a second time. When Arcade's beaten, the announcer says "you've saved the skies of Usea once again," which means that it's happened before, and it's not an isolated Strangereal 3 event.
I'm pretty sure that Strangereal 3 is just canon, and the older games just have some pre-popularity mistakes. It happens a lot, doesn't mean that they're all alternate universes. If they were to be remastered, they'd likely have Strangereal 3.
Also, not sure how canon Air Combat is to Strangereal at all, it's changed up in America anyway.
and Air Combat 22 doesn't even have a place named, does it?
Air combat takes place on skully islands a place near usea.
Here's a thought. What if Strangereal was not earth but was Counter Earth?
Jericho398 ? elaborate.
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There is a theory that there is a 2nd earth (Sol 4B Terra) that is completely on the opposite side of the sun (180 degree's out of phase) that is sharing our orbit.
What happened to Emmeria??
ok one thing that quiz's me today is Ulysses. we first hear mention of it in AC 4 and is referenced in the other games but my question is: when did Ulysses really happen?
Fairplayer37 it was discovered in 1994 and in 1995 (During the belkan war) it was estimated to impact in 1999. So they started to build stonehedge and megalith.
so to bring up a timeline between the games what two games would the impact have happened?
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Strangereal 2 looks best imo.
so strangereal wasn't cannon but is now
is there a Africa or middle east depicted in strangereal? i mean as what country would they be named as in like the emblems section of the game?
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ACZ covers the war "15 years ago" and is also linked with AC5.
The last interview with Larry shows that he was in USEA as a mercenary (infantrymen) fighting along side ISAF.
Wikifadom states his last affiliation was with the Independent State Allied Forces. (Usean War 2004 - 2005)
Also interviews take place in 2005.
So would AC4 in the Strangereal 3 category or would this be a different Usea?
strangereal 3, just saw the comment below this. lol.
Strangereal Two is still better cause it features Old World(without Russian Far East,Korea,Oceania except New Zealand,Southeast Asia and Japan) and Osea. In my prediction Strangereal Four would be like Osea and Old World. This time with Original Old World.
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Strangereal, aka Alternate Earth
What if after the Ulysses asteroid incident is broke most of the continent into more peices and help spread out the countries and give them there shape. Just a thought on my part.
It's would be a nice explanation, but still how did Anea keep its shape but shrink to half its size? Mine was continental shifts, and this being a VERY old map, just like our Earth was only one continent at one point too. But Anea totally destroys this... we should accept there is no logical canon explanation, and consider this as an early retconned attempt of a world map.
A good question is: What is the real Canon of ACO 3?? or could be a ending what could be next for a Canon ending
so... Usea is on Strangereal 2 or 3? Because all maps from Strangereal show it just like on the last map. wut?
I WANT AN ACE COMBAT WORLD WAR.
I have a question....can you explain the Mobius aircraft appearance in the Gauntlet mission in Ace Combat Zero?
It's just a bonus mission so there's no canon explanation for that
Aquila squadron represent!!!
Stranger Eel?!
When do we get to play as Kei Nagase (no seriously I'm a resent comrade in the fandom which might not make me a fan oh well)
Wow, I never thought about it. Un abrazo desde Chile! (Or Aurelia)
sadly... all the previous game were retconned to the newest Strangereal version... so yeah....
StealthTallyFox Is that a problem?
Not a problem it makes more SENSE :P
air combat was supposed to be in the nation of North Point.
No it's skully islands
What about ace combat 6? Where is emmeria or estovakia? Is that like strangereal #4?
No, it's on Strangereal #3. Do you see the continent "ANEA" on the top left corner? It features both, Emmeria and Estovakia. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/e/ef/Anea_Map_September_2015.png/
But IMO there is only one Strangereal. The first game just didn't feature the whole world but took place on a very small part of the final map, the Skully Islands. Ace Combat 2 on the other hand played on the Usean Continent, which was the exact same with later versions.
The map in Ace Combat 4's guide book is irrelevant in my opinion. It looks like a very early version and may show how the continents shifted from our world to Strangereal. After all, this is never depicted in the game at all.
But then we have Ace combat X2 which is in Real world, and we fight Dimitrescu in San Francisco.
Want to go Emmeria
So does ace combat 6 take place in the strange real 2 or 3 because of the Ulysses's asteroid incident
Maybe I didn't make it too clear in the video but from Ace Combat 5 and after all games take place in Strangereal 3. As for AC 2, 3 and 4, they take place in both Strangereal 2 & 3 - reason for that is while these games were made only Strangereal 2 existed but after Strangereal 3 was created these games were brought to the Strangereal 3 universe as if they had happened there (that's why USEA has been resized and added to Strangereal 3).
Strangereal 3. He just didn't divide Anea into Emeria and Estovakia.
Don't forget the Kingdom of Nordennavic.
Can someone tell me the background OST theme song🙏🏼
Operation from Ace Combat 4
Ace 4 is in the same world as ace 7 though
Well, basically they're all the same world. But he's talking about the AC4 map from the guidebook which is clearly not the same...
The map from the guidebook is fulfilled with bunch of bs
Hello :D can I ask you a question? If the universe of strangereal 2 is not part of 3, then why in the missions of ace combat 7 in VR does mobius 1 appear?
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i tell u the truth! ERUSEA r in ANEAN CONTINENTS,USEA R In Usean CONTINENTS,OSEA,BELKA,SAPIN,USTIO,AURELIA,LEASATH R IN OSEAN CONTINENTS,YUKTOBANIA AND THE OTHERS R ON YUKTOBANIAN CONTINENT!
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