5 Reasons People Hate THRASH METAL
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Thrash metal has been a cornerstone of heavy metal since the 1980s. Some of the biggest bands of the genre have come from this branch. But some dislike the genre and its time to discover why. Lets finish up the 5 Reasons series with this expose.
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I'm going to miss this chanel a lot. You are great, man
Been listening to thrash metal since 84 when Haunting The Chapel came out.
Back then it was all underground and tape trading.
I miss those days.
Man you are on a roll lately. I'll miss this channel once you're all done. Thanks for all the content over the years.
Groove metal kinda made thrash a little bit dated since it had aggression of thrash combined with death metal growls and most importantly breakdowns, But nobody will kill thrash it will live forvever
I think there are a few people that hate thrash metal because I used to play it too loud 😄 ... also the rivalry between glam and thrash is a bit overstated here. The two never really competed with each other - glam was more about the parties and good times with hooks and riffs that were more accessible to the ladies and some of the old generation, while thrash was all about energy, aggression and dynamics. The two styles were only rarely fighting for the same listeners, there really wasn't that much direct conflict.
Your right thrash and glam never got into conflicts
Pretty sure it was never really serious, but there was certainly a thing with Metallica and Twisted Sister - there's a quote somewhere where the TS singer (no idea!) pointed out that they are 'all one big metal family' and the response (let's just assume it was James... ) was No!!! Fuck you!!!
Metal 'purists' Metallica, there. Look at them now!
I think if glam metal wasn't called "metal" in the first place, it wouldn't have gotten half the hate it has. There are some bands which legitimately qualify as metal (eg. early Motley Crue, Twisted Sister), while other bands in the movement (eg. Poison, Bon Jovi) were some variation of hard rock or pop rock.
Groove Metal kept thrash alive in the 90s but also killed it in it's own way
I'm really going to miss this! My favourite 5 reasons video is 5 reasons why people hate Dream Theater. DT is my favourite band of all time. Thank you so much!
Great video! I've wanted you to do thrash metal for the longest time and this was a great way to end the series.
If what you said about № one is true, then we're doomed as a species.
Thrash remains the greatest type of metal ever.
Btw, I loved a lot of the glam back then too and still do some of it.
Thrash till death!
#2. Hilarious now, and very ironic, Tom Araya and both Daves from Megadeth, are Christian!!
I love thrash. I'm not old enough to have actually lived through the era, but I became obsessed with thrash metal throughout high school and, thanks to the Internet, I was able to dig up literally hundreds of bands -- from the well-known greats like Megadeth, Sepultura, Vio-lence, Overkill and Exodus, to more obscure bands like Xentrix, Ulysses Siren and Morbid Saint. It was an incredible voyage of discovery that I think back on with great fondness now. The "neo-thrash" bands, however, are almost uniformly terrible. They sound stale as all hell. They're trying much too hard to imitate and revive the 80s instead of doing what they should do, which is to take influences and then warp those influences in such a way that their presence becomes difficult to detect. That way, the music produced by the new band can sound fresh. Vektor is been pretty much the only band in this group that has successfully pulled this off. _Terminal Redux_ is a work of art.
The cringiest thing of all about the newer thrash bands, however, is that they STILL make songs about "killing poseurs." In the 80s when Paul Baloff was screaming about this, it made sense because in the 80s, metal was being infested with kitschy glam metal and becoming commercialized. Its artistic integrity was being undermined. At a time like that, getting angry about poseurs made sense and resonated with people because it was a response to a genuine issue of the time. But that's not true anymore. It's not even close to true. Metal is nowhere close to commercially mainstream these days. Mainstream pop artists are not adopting and bastardizing metal's sound. And so, if you go around today complaining about "poseurs," the question must be asked: Who exactly are you complaining about? The complaint rings hollow. It sounds fake. They look like they're play-acting, pretending that it's still the 80s. It's stupid.
The reason why newer thrash sounds so terrible is that it failed to evolve. It's not the 80s anymore. We live in a completely different world now. And by not adapting thrash to the real issues of our time, the newer thrash bands sound tone deaf. When people seek out art, they're usually searching for some kind of spiritual nourishment, whether they realize it or not. Hollow escapism is not nourishment, and deep down, people realize that.
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Good comment. But I don't agree on the it didn't evolve part. It evolved but the evolved version or versions of it aren't called thrash anymore, they are called Grindcore, Death metal, Melodeath, Groove metal, Black metal, Heavy hardcore, metallic hardcore and etc.
I appreciate your content. Thanks!
Ah I'm gonna miss these videos. I can only speak for myself, but I always recognised you were talking about general public / fans' reactions to the music, rather than your own.
I really liked the fact that you either did some digging to find these reasons, or were speaking from your own historical knowledge of the scenes. Its always worth remembering that genres of music usually have their own socio-political backgrounds, which spawn these reactions.
No thank you CKN for giving us some damn good videos.
I'm unique. I like both thrash and glam metal.
Hey coverkillernation, could you do a 5 Reasons People Love THRASH METAL?
Only 5?
1. Because
2. Thrash
3. Is
4. Fucking
5. Good
@@dvir12345 HAHA!
I'm always torn about the issue of bands who change their sound or style over time. Artists from the late '60s and early '70s, operating in a post-Beatles climate, frequently felt that changing things up was a way to stay vital and demonstrate growth. Later generations have embraced the idea of "branding" and never straying from an established sound, look, or style that has been proven to work. One path, if done right, can provide the thrill of ongoing discovery, but runs the risk of inconsistency; the other, when done right, may provide consistency but runs the risk of succumbing to cliche. I don't think a lot of rock or metal fans want to hear anything different from their beloved bands; they love the romance of the *idea* of rebellion, but when it comes down to it they are a deeply conservative bunch who lose their minds if anything changes.
I didnt like it when Coldplay changed their vibe but what you said in the last sentence about many fans being conservative at heart who only like the idea of rebellions is very well said mate!
One of the few bands that was able to consistently find and ride that line between growth and stagnation, in my opinion, was RUSH. The loss of Neil still hurts badly.
How could any metalhead hate thrash????
When I started to listen to metal thrash was almost my favorite metal genre but in the last 10-15 years it was the only genre I didn't find new bands that I like. They all sound so generic to me, and even alot of bands that I really liked before sound to boring for me now. I know people like evile , havok, suicidal angels, municipal waste and so on but to me they are just not that interesting. The only band I kind of dig is Vektor.
Thrash metal is boring. All they do is to palm mute the open 6th string
@@pinzosquer4629 death metal is boring.....thrash is Amazing
@@nokturnalmortum4763 Death Metal can be boring, but at least Death Metal is one of those genres where the bands push themselves to levels of greatness. I grew up on thrash 30 years ago, and it's a genre that after so many years gets boring. Bands just open E, and palm mute their way through songs. There have only ever been a handful of thrash bands that ever achieved greater heights in song writing. The smartest thing Metallica ever did was abandon thrash metal. Death Angel was another band that released broke away from Thrash and made the amazing Act3, but have since returned to boring, formulaic thrash. Exodus created one song that showed they had potential to reach greater heights of song writing and that was Architect of Pain, and then they went back to paint by numbers thrash songs. Overkill never pushed themselves beyond phone in the same album 19 times. Where as you have tons of Death Metal acts like Morbid Angel, Gorguts, Septicflesh, Fleshgod Apocalypse, etc. who created something beyond boring paint by numbers tunes. Never content to release the same albums over and over. The only thrash bands I can think of that really created anything brilliant were Voivod, Metallica, Megadeth, Death Angel(for a short period anyways). Testament always had the potential for something greater but never went for it. I would say that Classic Metal eg. Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Satan, Grim Reaper etc. and Death Metal(although death metal has the limit vocal factor) are far more exciting than thrash.\
I like a lot of thrash but it's a hit or miss between the bands. I think bands like Kreator, Sepultura, and early Metallica are awesome while I personally think bands like Anthrax haven't aged well and others like Annihilator are terrible.
You should do five reasons why people hate Geta Van Fleet.
You have a great straight-forwardness with your speaking and production, it's pretty damn good. Also, I'd say another reason why some people dislike or hate thrash is that they just can't stand the speed and heaviness. This seems kind of implied but it's reasonably true, especially when a lot of people are used to quite high production quality and more-over production fidelity and clarity, so older works may sound a bit crusty to them. Especially works by more underground/lesser known bands, for example Teutonic bands, as there supposedly wasn't as much of a scene as there was in the Bay Area and the U.S. in general. I'm not certain but I'm reasonably sure that Germany didn't have access to the productive means that studios in the U.S. did.
@coverkillernation Could you also do a Rank Em All for Anthrax?
I generally like thrash, but the music sounding derivative is kind of the reason that it's not really a genre I've gone out of my way to take a major dive into beyond the respected names.
@coverkillernation, I'm a Born Again Christian and like Thrash Metal from Bands like Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, some Overkill, as well as some Testament. And I even like a few songs from Slayer (They deffanately have a gift from God to play music because they're sound and vocals together are great, I just get the feeling that more than likely God is probably not happy with the lyrics and a number of song titles they have along with allot of other bands, artists groups genres of music) Some songs I like from them are: South Of Heaven, Dead Skin Mask, Raining Blood, Chemical Warfare and maybe a few more. When it comes to albums, I buy albums for the music not the cover. Like I bought Anthrax For All Kings (2016) (Love the music on there.) I'm just not crazy about the fact that they use basically a pentagram on some of they're albums including that one. Also As well as the fact that they tend to have basically an upside down cross on allot of they're albums. But I don't tend to judge based on the cover looking at it seeing different imagery going "Okay I should just stay away from this music completely since it has a pentagram or an upside down cross on it." I look at the songs, listed on the back and maybe listen to some of the songs on the Internet and or read the lyrics first to see what I think. And If I really like a number of the songs or even a few, and or have heard that it's a good album, I might check it out. Some albums have a great cover and look like I might really like the music on them, then listened to the music and It just wasn't for me. Other albums the cover may have had some strange imagery and the music was fine, and good. I just don't always agree with the lyrics on all songs. But there are some songs like Creeping Death for example that is all pretty accurate to The Plagues Of Egypt described in the Movies like The Ten Commandments and others that are based off The Bible so that's proof right there that Thrash, as well as other genres of Metal are not Evil. Blac Metal I'm not sure about though, I'd say the music itself sounds fine, but the lyrics I'm not entirely sure about. I had went to a Slipknot Concert a little while back and Behemoth was one of the opening acts, I thought they sounded pretty good, except for the fact that I couldn't understand a word they were saying 90% of the time.
You are not alone, brother. I'm Christian as well; have been for most of my life and I really enjoy a lot of metal. My favorite thrash band is Kreator which have a lot of evil looking album covers. I learned to not "judge a book by it's cover" so much because while they have have demons and skeletons on the covers, their lyrics have no satanic content. It's mostly political and social themes, or songs about horror movies they've seen. As long as the lyrics aren't blasphemous, I'm pretty open minded.
@@joshalan5125 Cool. I wasn't sure about Kreator, maybe I'll check em out. My names also Josh, and my Dad's Middle Name was Alan as well by the way, I think it was just spelled Allen instead of Alan. I have some videos on my youtube channel you can feel free to check out if you'd like, as well as anybody else who's reading this comment can feel free to check out the videos on my channel.
Na i think they is only one maybe two reasons why people don't like thrash, 1 it's too fast, 2 don't like the vocals. I don't think it's as deep as you're making it out to be. I fuck love thrash, it's fast, energetic and that's what draws me to it more.. Been listening to it for 30+ years now. But also listen to punk,rock and many other genres. Think people need to be more open minded..Just not that open that you like pop/rap/dance music haha
Why would anyone dislike any type of music at all ?
#1 reason is the vocals. If they dont sound right to you, whatever music you are listening to is going to be seriously hard to get into. Thrash has some decent singers, but quite a few that take some getting used to.
I’m gonna miss this
Number 2 is so true I love Thrash metal but I can agree with that.
That is even a question. Bugs my mind...
I do like me some thrash metal to an extent. I love Metallica's thrash metal era of their career and even their black album and I like Slayer as well. Even bands that aren't full fledged thrash bands such as Chimaira, Trivium, Lamb Of God, Iced Earth and even Bullet For My Valentine have incorporated elements and aspects of thrash metal that I enjoy listening to. I love the heaviness and the aggression of the style, but my real problem with it is it's elitist fanbase which causes me to turn my back on it as a whole. It's the same issue that I have with traditional death metal and basic black metal. The music isn't the problem, it's the fanbases elitism is what turns me off to the music.
Funny thing is I said some elitist can be closed minded and like two guy's in the comments took what I said the wrong way. When I was saying some think highly of themselves I was pointing out the ones that was very tribalistic about it. I know not everyone is like that but I was only talking about a pacific type of group not everyone. I did word some things a bit wrong like some aren't open minded enough to try something a bit more experimental, when I should of said some should never be afraid to try something a bit new to them and get out the bubble once in a while, because they may never know when they might like something a bit different.I was mostly pointing out the assholes of the elitist group. I should of never said oldy elitist.lol
Thrash Em All! Aaaaaaaa
For me (only counting pure thrash metal bands: progressive thrash metal and other possible subgenres of it not included)
1. I like mid-tempo metal better.
2. The drumming is mainly repetitive,intense,and up tempo drumming. I prefer more creative,dynamic,and expressive drumming.
3. Aside from a few bands like Metallica and maybe Evile,I’ve found that thrash metal songs are generally shorter and I like when plenty of longer songs are mixed in a band’s discography.
4. Thrash metal is a subgenre I need to be in the mood to listen to. Whereas subgenres like progressive metal and symphonic metal are ones I can listen to all the time.
5. A lot of thrash metal bands don’t have a diverse discography. You kind of know what you’re getting when you listen to thrash metal bands. This doesn’t always bother me (again,I like symphonic metal),but it’s more bothersome here given the many other things I don’t like about thrash metal.
You're absolutely right, you have to be in the right mood but also i think thrash metal is a metal subgenre that needs to be played live or in some outdoor big speakers. It's powerful music and to understand it completely (some songs are still too repetitive with the drums) you need to move with energy. What do you think?
Andrea Sabbadin I would say in a way,yes. But I think if you’re musically inclined or at least know what to listen for then it doesn’t take a specific environment to understand the music. Maybe to enjoy it better,but not understand it. I’m sure seeing a thrash metal band live is intense and great,but for me personally I’d rather see a band like Dream Theater or Periphery live that includes intensity but also complexity,melody,and dynamic contrast. Thrashing and shredding riffs are great,but I can only listen to so much before I get bored and want something different.
That the drumming is repetive is because most bands play fast and they want to keep that tempo high but there are a lot of good thrash metal drummers that are playing more diverse. And i personally can listen to any metal type anytime besideswhen im sad i listen particuraly to sad songs but generally it brings happiness and energy.
@@drmemer3633 that’s fair. I totally get that,but for my personal taste I prefer drummers like Mario Duplantier and Matt Halpern who can play up tempo and intense,but mainly play with intuitiveness and creativity. I’m sure there are a few drummers like that in thrash metal,but I haven’t found any yet. And as far as listening to metal anytime goes,I’m personally a jazz,blues,progressive music,and rock fan before I’m a metalhead. With those four genres,I genuinely like most of what I’ve heard there and I’d rarely if ever turn the music off if someone played a song from those genres. With metal,I’d say at least 90% of it is stuff I don’t like and what I do like is anything that’s non extreme progressive metal/djent. Symphonic metal too. That’s about it really.
@@corbinm5237 I like drummers like Igor Cavalera more he's playing fast but he's not only doing the same thing but I understand how you feel about it
I think one thing you missed is the elitist mentality that comes from thrash fanbase. They're not bad people but they are very set in their ways and as a result they can come off as insufferable, which in all fairness is a problem that can be found in ALL genres of metal. It's not exclusive but it's still a problem
Good point, totally agree. I'm one of those thrash elitists. Many other forms of metal have never been able to live up. I was spoiled simply by my era which I came of age in.
Yea I mostly see it in the thrash death and black metal fanbase. Not bad genres but I'm not as into them as other's. But a lot of oldy elitist seem to think very highly of theselves, and not be open minded enough to try something a bit more experimental. Some seem to always stay in that bubble and think that my age my genre is better and if you don't agree then you're brain dead. If my favorite bands are not on the top of your list then you have shit taste or something stupid like that. We can't just enjoy the stuff we like and see that not everybody is into the same things.
@@superstarthomas I think you're being a little overly judgemental. The reason why people of the 80's hold that music up so high is because of how spectacular and huge it was. Keep in mind it was brand new and it set the bar incredibly high as it was setting the world on fire. The bands that came after were either trying to copy it or at a minimum were highly influenced by it. Us oldy types do like newer kinds of metal too though, we just hold early metal like Sabbath, NWOBHM and thrash very close to or hearts. It is our Beatles and our Stones. To be honest, if you are so resistant to give thrash a fair chance, perhaps you're the one who's close minded? Perhaps you've pre judged those bands or follow a trend to dislike them? If not, that's cool. Not trying to make accusations. When something as powerful and complex as thrash comes out, more stripped down forms of metal are just harder to appreciate. If I was born 10 or 20 years later perhaps I would see it your way though. 🤘
@@insufferablethrashelitist9305 Not being judgmental at all just pointing out the ones that are very close minded. I know there's a lot of open minded metalheads of all kinds. I know people born in that generation holds the thing that their born with to their hearts everybody does that. Also just because I'm not into thrash as much as I'm into other stuff doesn't mean I dislike it all together. I don't follow any kind of trends I just follow what I like and what I enjoy the most. I think every genre has there own unique style. I might have one or to favorites from that sub genre but I'm not going to like everything from it. Hell I don't even hold any of them higher (as in saying something is better) over one another. I'm just happy to enjoy it but that's just me. Like Industrial and Doom are my favorites but I never cared if any of the styles were better or more popular. I don't really mean to come off like a douch hopfully this you understand more with this.
@@superstarthomas okay, well you said we think highly of ourselves, aren't open minded and if you disagree you're brain-dead. I don't think were that critical. When grunge came out we mostly drifted to it. We immediately (and still do) loved tool. We were blown away by other bands that came later like pantera, static x, LOG, slipknot, gojira... the list goes on and on. I'm just saying us oldy thrash elitists are more open minded than you're giving us credit for.
But on a positive note, I'm glad that you simply like what you like regardless of trends. We're in agreement on that. A lot of metal has become commercial (which isn't bad in itself, a good song is a good song) and certain trends have emerged. Like it's "uncool" to like this band or that. Don't dislike a band because that's the trend, dislike them cause they suck, or stop caring what other people think. To me that goes against being metal. Don't be afraid to crank master of puppets or whatever.
I don't hate it, but I don't like it. I definitely belong to the group number one. To put it bluntly: trash metal is equivalent of country music, imo.
2:30 - LOL! I'll take Slayer, Testament, Overkill, Death Angel live any day. What's funny is when I was a kid some of the Glam metal bands were my first exposure to metal. Although lets be honest it's not really metal. Then I became of age and realized it took a fuck ton more talent to play thrash and started into my journey into metal. Metallica, Anthrax, Slayer, Megadeth said goodbuy to Poison Warrant and Motley Crue. No regrets HAHA!
Death angel should be bigger, very overlooked
I like old school thrash metal. The new wave of thrash is pretty boring though
Lost Society is pretty good 🤘
Vektor is the answer 🤘
Havok is pretty good IMO.
I used to hate thrash because it wasnt as poppy or melodic as the music i was listening at the time. Which was mostly hair bands and power metal. It wasnt until I started appreciating the riffs..
Spreading the des, Ride the Lightning ect.. There was lots of variety. It just depends on the band.
Thrash is Metal No.1
O know this guy said Bon Jovi is Metal. And yes I’m old enough to remember about from about 84 on wards.
I'm still listening to thrash metal I've been listening to them for almost 30 years listen to Metallica for almost 30 years the big four even in 20/20 I'm still head banging Long live metal 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Actually when master of puppets came out that was the change for me.
I think the vocals were a big turn off to a lot of people in the 80s & 90s. If you were needing good clean vocals you weren't going to find in thrash metal except for Anthrax.
The whole 'this iz politicuw now' thing amuses me. People are surprised that Rage Against The Machine are raging .... against the machine! This applies to so many things in popular culture that have always had heavy handed political content. It's just that these people didn't notice until they got on the internet and they found out!
Metallica
Slayer
Anthrax
Megadeth
Pantera crossed over from glam to thrash metal...
Pantera is Groove not Thrash.
@@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN Groove metal is basically a sub-genre of thrash; at least it broke off from Thrash.
@@shaynewest8757 What ever you say Robb Flynn. How about you make a few more cry baby "boo-hoo everything is reeecist and hurts my feelings" videos and songs. ;)
I personally love Thrash and have since the mid-eighties. Number 3 is where I have had my problem as well. I have always had a problem with the fact that they could “ call out “ “conservatives” but the PMRC was headed by Tipper Gore , Al Gore’s wife definitely a “ liberal” . Be consistent; both sides have problems and the liberal side is just as hypocritical as the right and maybe more. Keep thrashing; you can unite the “right” and the “left” with smart lyrics that address the problems not ostracizing the “ other side”.
Yeah I personally love Thrash most of my cassette collection is filled with Thrash Metal. I'm learning how to play fast Thrash Bass lines. I'm getting hungrier I'm going to start an Thrash Metal band.
Thrash didn't remain same if you look at the bigger picture. If you define thrash only with its technicallity, then it'll seem it remained same but if you see it as a spirit you can that it's just been changed and derivated into different forms of metal. Obituary, Cannibal Corpse, Lamb of God, Napalm Death, Brutal Truth, Killswitch Engage, Pantera, Mayhem; all these bands have done their own version of thrash music. They are all inspired by thrash metal and hardcore punk movements. Btw I have never seen a single metalhead that is a die hard glam metal fan hated thrash because of it. Glam metal never had a die hard fanbase or "scene kids" their fan base was basically consisting of groupies and guys who were trying to nail them. Since there were no scene kids in the sunset strip there weren't any community of the glam fanbase to derive different sounds of it later on.
Yeah some times gets too repetitive
Thrash is the greatest genre ever made specifically old school Bay Area
I would have agreed with that 30 years ago, now I say Thrash is one of the most limited, generic genres of metal out there. The bands are content to open E, and palm mute their way through songs and never push themselves to levels of song writing greatness. How long can you listen to Overkill release the same album over and over without ever striving to evolve?
Greg Baltzer listen to power trip
@@hi1000ish Heard them, they do nothing for me. They may be good at what they do, but they still have that "Been there, done that" vibe to them. I would have enjoyed them more 30 years ago when they would have felt fresh. The only current "thrash" albums I really enjoyed were Voivod's The Wake, Kreator - Gods of Violence, and Anthrax - For All Kings. I love Slayer but Repentless was "meh". I would suggest listening to Coroner.
@@Gregbaltzer Punishment For Decadence
@@shaynewest8757 I fucking love Coroner and think they are criminally overlooked
5 reasons people hate billie eilish
Make it 50
I like Thrash more than Glam cause I like the speed that Thrash does.
Same
'Eckspecially'
Hair Guitar & Glam Metal are not the same genre. My example poison is Hair Guitar, Kiss is Glam Metal.
when glam was shouting at the devil....thrash was in leeeeeeeeeague with satan.......! :D
Thrash till death 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
If it wasn't for thrash, I wouldn't have gotten into the classic era of metal. All the thanks goes to Metallica!
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i love most metal but thrash was always a bit boring to me...…. same style fast riffs that are more speed than intricacy (obviously there is exceptions) and vocals that have never been clean enough to be catchy or dirty enough to be death. it just seemed a bit plain when compared to all other metal. Revocation is the most interesting thrash band ive ever heard. Also love CKN \m/
If you want clean catchy vocals and good riffs try Mekong Delta, Artillery, and Target.
I am someone who hates thrash. 1 reason is that Thrash shouldn’t have the word Metal after it. Because it not Metal.
I don't listen to thrash metal that much anymore because most thrash is just very tame in comparison to most extreme metal. Also most thrash sounds the fucking same.
If funny being a zoomer and hearing about the animosity between Thrash and Glam. XD both are my favorite genres.
The so-called rivalry between those two genres consisted of thrash bands talking shit about glam bands in metal magazines, beyond that there wasn't much to it. Most of those thrash bands members grew up listening to bands like Kiss, Van Halen, Aerosmith etc, however they'd do their "thrash rulz, everything else suckz" gimmick in interviews. It wasn't that different to Manowar's True metal gimmick.
You should of done 'Five reasons people hate metal in general'
I was always a NWoBHM/Thrash fan since the early 80's. But I never really minded hearing Hair and Glam metal. Although, going to clubs back then. All they played was Glam/hair metal, and by the end of the night, I'd had enough. I couldn't wait for the drive home to listen to something a little more aggressive.
Yeah. The Black album sucked, and all the NewMetal and metal/rap crossover crap sucked. Like Biohazard and Anthrax. But the genre of music I despised, and still do to this day was Grunge. Boring, lifeless, lame music. I'd rather listen to 70's Disco. Too bad Kurt Cobain didn't blow his drug addled brain out a year and a half sooner.
THRASH IS KING
#1 should've been the toxic elitists
Sux your quitting man, you have really gone into your own over the past 2 or 3 years, I used to feel like you got loud and preachy and now you talk with such knowledge and understanding. But I guess if your gonna go out, do it doing your best vids ever.
What about 5 reasons people hate nu metal?
That’s koЯny
@@bryangarcia5599 Lol
Limp Bizkit, and it's Mainstream. All I can think of rn
@@evantaylor2935 I think the rapping is another one.
Literally no one hates numetal except boomers and elitists who are stuck in the past
the reason why i don't like thrash metal is there no scream or growl which should be in metal!!
So what metal do you like? I didn't like growls when i started hearing metal but i opened up and now i like a lot of other bands... Death metal is probably the biggest metal genre, so many bands and subgenres. You can like whatever you want to like but I'm telling you you're measing a lot
@@dvir12345 bro i have my own metal band(Art of Horror) check out in facebook and i am the lead vocalist, we do cover of lamb of god songs... i like the music of heavy metal and thrash metal but when the vocalist start singing i just stop listening , i have my very own concept that, with a vocalist who cannot do growl or scream and sing melody, it's not a metal band for me ... it's just a rock music or any other shit!!
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The problem with thrash is the same problem that effects any subgenre that's getting old. Too much of the same, lack of imagination, and not bringing anything new to the table. The true artists move on before the genre gets too stale. I also think a bunch of nerds doing the tough guy act irritates anyone over the age of 15.
Thrash was a great genre, but it's done, except for the occasional gem eg Vector. We should however, at the very least, thank thrash for disposing of glam. But then, with glam defeated, many thrash bands tried pandering to the mainstream. Which basically made them comparable to the glam bands they hated so much.
I was also irritated by the thrash bands acting like grunge killed thrash, and that metal was non existent during the grunge years. During this time was an explosion of underground metal. Only commercial metal was dead.
the artist formally known as craig lastname the lack of diversity is probably my biggest problem with thrash metal as a whole. You basically know what every band’s whole discography sounds like when you listen to one song from them. It’s not an appealing genre to me to begin with,but if it were more diverse and creative instead of stagnant then I’d probably like it more. That’s why I love Sylosis so much; a band rooted in thrash metal that incorporates strong progressive metal and death metal influences. It’s so fresh and stands out from the rest. There isn’t a lot of that in thrash metal.
When it does evolve it gets labelled something else, been into metal since late 70s and it's all great.
Death to false shit!
Considering that some of those glam bands are doing stadium tours this year, statements like yours seem childish. Also its the thrash bands who moved away from thrash sound to a more commercial Hard Rock sound in the early 90s, You can also make the argument that glam killed thrash with that logic. Truth is both styles have ran out of steam in the early 90s and lost their momentum while influencing New bands that came out in the 00s.
@@LuchaLibertaria Childish? How so? I don't think doing stadium tours means anything. Most pop music can do that. If that is what dictates what a great band is then we could say that Taylor Swift is better than Opeth.
And by the way, stadium rock sucks balls. It's specifically designed to be simple, easy to listen to, so that simpletons can follow.
@@craigroaring that whole 'x killed this genre' argument, as if its some boxing match, is childish. Music genres reach their creative peak and after that they lose their momentum due to oversaturation of the market, lack of creative ideas etc. Stadium tours means that genre still has a fanbase who are willing to go and see them and are numerous enough to sell out a stadium. It doesn't say anything about the quality of music but it shows that genre isn't quite 'dead' yet. Taylor Swift can do a stadium show, so does Iron Maiden and Roger Waters. Being popular doesn't mean that you suck, You can be popular without losing your musical integrity.
Now that Vektor is dead, Kreator is probably the only good thrash band left.
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Exodus , testament, overkill are arguably putting out they're best music now.
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Lol, I'm really late, but I just don't like it because I find it cringy. I actually do like some bands and songs tho like from Metallica, Sodom, Toxic Holocaust and Repulsion, mostly the blackened-thrash stuff. but overall I can't stand the clean vocals that try to sound evil like Paul Bolaffs or Tom Araya's or the straight up clean, melodic singing like Joey Belladonna, or even worse the high pitched, fast paced, choppy vocals like Violator or Municipal Waste. Might as well use distorted, fried vocals, or shreiks if you want to present an evil or angry image. Also I find Tom Araya's random princess screams in some Slayer songs like Angel of Death and Aggressive Perfector to be unnecessary and out of place in an evil sounding song. It would be so much better if he shrieked it or growled. Other than that it's also the fashion and culture that turns me off. I don't really like the having greasy long hair, trying to look ugly and intimidating and smelling like shit and getting wasted all the time part of it, I prefer the glam style. And I think neo thrash is stupid because they try to hang on to the 80s thrash sound, vibe and fashion. Ultimately, I prefer black metal and it's subgenres and fusiongenres when it comes to extreme metal.
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You got to be kidding me ? If anything we need thrash metal again. And make it mainstream on every metal show nationwide. Thrash is not around like glam is not around anymore. Don't make sense. Receptiveness is good in rap lol it took over metal since 1995. Ac/dc is repeptive. Creativity is needed desperately from scratch not copy, steal, & paste. Glam had harmonica, keyboard, background singers, GNR & Great White piano. Woodstock bands & The Doors very diverse. 70s regular hard rock not bad. Corporate record companies ruined it all.
For me, thrash metal was born in 1971. I don't know why Americans need to be the first thrash metal bands.
@@HowardLeaderman I think he meant Trash* Metal
@@HowardLeaderman Budgie used thrash metal riffs.
Venom, motorhead and tank were playing thrash before Metallica refined it
@@shaynewest8757 Definitely. When Metallica covered Motörhead songs, they sounded very much alike but still very much like Metallica.
Straight thrash is pretty... trash in my opinion. Thrash influenced extreme metal or proto-black can be really awesome though.
As someone who preferred Thrash in the 80's as their favorite genre by the 90's I was bored shitless of it. I pretty much stopped listening to every thrash band(except Slayer) and got more into other forms of heavy music eg. Death Metal, post hardcore, hardcore, Doom metal, industrial metal. The problem with thrash is that it's so generic. Very few bands push themselves for greatness, and in order to do that you really have to stop playing thrash it seems. I can't name one other band that even tried to write a record as great as Master of Puppets. There were great records out there, but none on that level. Several bands released albums as good as Ride the Lighting eg. The Legacy, and The Ultra-violence. I can only think of a few bands that ever reached any levels of songwriting greatness and that was Voivod, Megadeth, Metallica, and Death Angel(although Death Angel have since returned to repeating the same thrash album over and over again). Testament had all the potential but never pushed themselves for that epics song, or album. Overkill just wrote the same album over and over. It just seems like Thrash bands are content to just open E, and palm mute, their way though songs. Just using the tritone up and down the neck. It just got boring. These days I prefer classic metal eg. Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Grim Reaper, Budgie, Doom Metal, and death metal because I find the riffs, and compositions more interesting. Classic metal bands actually write riffs instead of just jerking of the guitar neck with the tritone.
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Imagine hating thrash metal
Thrash metal is ok but definitely not the best sun genre. It's not on the level of melodic death/melodic black metal and most prog metal. They're some great bands like Kreator and Vektor but there's not much innovation overall in thrash.
It takes talent to play thrash you gotta admit at least
@@kotanovakota for sure, used to be a thrash metal drummer and it was fun and gave you quite a workout
@@mattr27 Glad your legs got used to it I find lots of local people complaining they can't keep up to the tempo
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The one person who disliked this video is the one fool out there who actually doesn't understand and hates thrash! Lol.
There aren't 5 reasons to hate it, those are 5 excuses! Thrash metal is too epic to hate!
Thrash - the Nickelback of metal genres.