How to *properly* use a Wet Palette... And 4 better Warhammer tools to try!

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  • @SiegeStudios
    @SiegeStudios  5 місяців тому +3

    Keep these episode weekly, and free, by leaving a 5 star review over at Apple Podcasts: shorturl.at/fCIT8
    We'll read the best ones out on the show!

  • @Spencer_twin
    @Spencer_twin 5 місяців тому +23

    This may just be me, but the conversation about using a wet pallet was really informational for me. Probably won’t put it in a fridge but who knows lol

  • @GMadeley
    @GMadeley 5 місяців тому +14

    Regarding wet palettes with sponges that can get mouldy, I have an absolute top tip for this one. The first time I saw a wet palette used was a home-made one, years and years ago, that an old art teacher of mine used for painting acrylics on canvas. To avoid mould, he'd put a small amount of bleach in the water he used which worked, but in all honesty I was a bit reluctant to use a harsh cleaning chemical myself. Anyway, fast forward to the first time I used a wet palette in model painting, because since then I'd had kids, we used Milton sterilising fluid a lot for cleaning the kids' bottles and bowls and things like that. Milton's cheap, completely safe and available everywhere in the baby aisle in supermarkets, and a squirt of it in palette water keeps it mould free for months. BONUS TIP: if you get tea or coffee stains in mugs that you can't shift, soak them in a bowl of water with a measure of Milton in it for twenty minutes, cleans them right up like new.

    • @Nilboggen
      @Nilboggen 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm a little late watching this episode. I just use distilled water and I have never had mold in my wet palette. But I'm sure some sort of bleach or sterilizing fluid would also work.

  • @Grahamshobbycorner
    @Grahamshobbycorner 5 місяців тому +12

    There needs to be a siege studios drinking game. Shots everytime James says ‘caveat’ 😂

  • @JamesDavies-gk5xe
    @JamesDavies-gk5xe 5 місяців тому +5

    Wife: need anything picked up for your hobby from the shops?
    Me: yea, if you could add mini fridge to the bosh drill and maybe a misting spray that would be great.

  • @fri8601
    @fri8601 5 місяців тому +5

    The demo section was the best, it elevated the podcast to the next level. Please make a short demo/explanation a regular segment.
    Also the side by side picture was great would be good to see that more to show models etc as they are being talked about (the screen at the back is a little small).

  • @JoeyC777
    @JoeyC777 5 місяців тому +7

    Joe, James & George - Love the podcast! 😃 New listener and subscriber, but decided to write this little poem to celebrate some of the entertainment I've had so far listening to the back catalogue:
    We’re under siege boys, no time to spare,
    Crack out the brushes and show some flair.
    Who needs more than one to be a hero:
    I’m painting this Titan with just a triple zero!
    Let’s up our game lads, give 100%,
    Leave the sub-assemblies out Joe, get to the main event.
    Get that model built, every edge neatly trimmed,
    Let battle commence, over the colour of base rims!
    This is where the rubber hits the road, the “James-isms” flow,
    The perspective becomes real, as the paints come and go.
    You want blacker than black, to stay grimmer and dark,
    Or leave the 70.950 out, and hide well in the park?
    It’s a question of taste, not a matter of age,
    So don’t go writing off the young lad, in a fit of brown rage.
    Young George makes a stand, as he crunches his Refreshers,
    He harnesses the sugar, and stands against peer pressure.
    But all in all, the lads know what to bring,
    To a chat about painting, by the power of nose rings.
    Blends and jokes so smooth they’d make a Blood Angel cry,
    And the shout goes up: “LET THE PEOPLE MAGNIFY!”
    Keep up the good work lads!
    Joe C.

  • @Ciddy1980
    @Ciddy1980 5 місяців тому +3

    Toothpicks for liquid mask. I use the humbrol version and it's thick enough to use a toothpick and works perfectly.

  • @martinniederhausen6511
    @martinniederhausen6511 5 місяців тому +4

    I always use a diy Palette but I was not aware of the correct way to set it up.
    Thank you very much!

  • @kylekeenan3485
    @kylekeenan3485 5 місяців тому +2

    One of my favourite hobby tool hacks are the daler and rowney 0.5mm fineliner.
    Its an amazing time saver for recessesd shading on my Ultramarines. You don't need to use it for all shading, but it makes some areas really easy to do, like Marine Pauldrons, run it along the inside edge of the gold trim and you get a perfect inner shadow which is a nightmare to do with anything else.

  • @MGKona1
    @MGKona1 5 місяців тому +2

    Army painter wet pallette is cheap and works fine, it also comes switch two sponges. I've used the same one for years with no issues and use the lid as a dry pallette. I've had to buy more paper but that's expected

  • @RequiemWraith
    @RequiemWraith 5 місяців тому +4

    I use a Redgrass Games wet palette. They seem to be conscious of James' point, as the palette paper pack I have (still the original pack that came with the box) is cut slightly smaller than the sponge, so there's always a little bit of sponge around the perimeter of the paper.

    • @netizenkane
      @netizenkane 5 місяців тому +1

      And their foam holds alot of water and their new ones even more so! I had the wet palette on my table, with the lid on, for weeks and it does not dry out and the paper don’t lift. The new paper they sell doesn’t wrinkle either. Touching the foam with the brush to wet it would be difficult though. I’ll stick with the redgrass one but I can see why James’ DIY works for him 🙂

    • @RequiemWraith
      @RequiemWraith 5 місяців тому

      @@netizenkane if I didn't already own one, I'd definitely go the DIY route. But thought it worth shining a light that at least one producer is aware of some of the issues

  • @GodOfMoxie555
    @GodOfMoxie555 5 місяців тому +1

    Just use the silicon sculpting brushstrokes to apply liquid mask super easy and clean.
    Also I use high quality mask fluid and never had it be crumbly, sounds like it had gone off.

  • @jameskennedy8661
    @jameskennedy8661 4 місяці тому +1

    The old square Ferrero Rocher boxes were the b3st pallets. The top was hard pallet, the bottom makes wet pallete with some kitchen towel and oven paper and the tray was perfect for washes and glazes.

  • @liamedmondson8902
    @liamedmondson8902 5 місяців тому +1

    for liquid mask gloss varnish the model first then keep the brush wet at all times and rinse it regularly throughout, apply it as thick as you can get away with

  • @regularbear
    @regularbear 5 місяців тому +1

    "no one paints the inside of a tank" looks at my rhino's with painted interiors

  • @AM-uw3gp
    @AM-uw3gp 5 місяців тому +1

    I use magnets for various models and one Hobby Hack I made was hand drilling and glueing 3 x 2mm magnets on my paint brushes to store them horizontally on a piece of metal, also you should do it at the centre of mass and opposite the writing so you can still identify the brush sizes, works great for me

  • @adaml2910
    @adaml2910 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks to James I've just burned my pile of branded wet pallets in the garden.

  • @doobiousd5020
    @doobiousd5020 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm a noob and have only made a few sets of bases so my experience is obviously limited and there hasn't been much time for paint to chip. That being said, I had a good experience with it. Used cork but I wouldn't have even considered just painting on it directly-the sand/spackle mix goes over top.
    Started with a normal bottle cork, cut it in three parts and then stuck those in my coffee ginder to make differently sized bits.

    • @graemerandall9469
      @graemerandall9469 5 місяців тому +1

      I use adhisive 2mm cork sheets when using things like crackle and textures paints. They not only stick to the cork better than plastic, the fact they are absobant helps with the effect. They harden once the effect paint has dried protecting them from damage.
      If you layer them, you can dig down to give natural undulations rather than a perfectly flat base.
      The only real problem i've encountered is applying super glue after they have dried, so you have to plan ahead where you are sticking things.

  • @darrannorman6185
    @darrannorman6185 5 місяців тому +2

    Best episode yet guys, thanks. Great tips and very funny

  • @healurself2492
    @healurself2492 14 днів тому

    I always wanted some tips on wet pallets and this one was very informal. I have watched most of your recent videos but I also watch the older ones in random order. Love your content from NYC!

  • @mikeedwards6454
    @mikeedwards6454 5 місяців тому +1

    Finally took the plunge and followed your DIY wet pallet. So simple yet so effective. Thank you for sharing and loving the podcast! Now I’m off to find the best mini fridge 😂

  • @jaylansdowne17
    @jaylansdowne17 5 місяців тому

    Idea for James, a vanguard tactics style jersey with sleeve sponsor DeWALT, back sponsor TK Maxx and obviously an Artis opus chest sponsor

  • @Enzar17
    @Enzar17 4 місяці тому

    Ok... I put my wet palette in the fridge last night, and it WORKS, dude. My paints were in perfect condition. I highly recommend that trick, it sounds dumb, but it works like nothing I've ever seen.

  • @jfoerster
    @jfoerster 5 місяців тому +1

    The cliffhanger at the end of the intros are always 10/10!
    Keep it up!

  • @k3rmitPL
    @k3rmitPL 5 місяців тому

    Could you please show the "lightbox" cardboard box stand gimmick? I can't visualize the cut from the description, but it might be something of use to me. Love the podcast, can't wait for more

  • @jaceks1962
    @jaceks1962 5 місяців тому

    Liquid masks should be applied with toothpick or clay shapers. And you should use just ordinary pencil rubber to remote it by, you guessed, rubbing it.

  • @themaraca
    @themaraca 5 місяців тому

    A large Ferrero Rocher container with a spontex sponge sheet, covered in mason cash parchment paper for a wet palette.

  • @mrsupaconducta
    @mrsupaconducta 5 місяців тому +1

    For a wet pallet, I’m a fan of Ferraro chocolates boxes with Swedish dish clothes. They have a few sizes to fit your needs and the insert can be used to mix up washes.

  • @janblaha3718
    @janblaha3718 5 місяців тому

    Personally I utilize a red grass wet palette and have not had issues with drying out swiftly. Live in a temperate climate. NY USA
    As holders I use pill bottles I get with my prescription, they work just fine.

  • @morganfellows8182
    @morganfellows8182 5 місяців тому

    Haha I use the exact same system of replaceable Doritos salsa jars as George. They ARE the perfect size and shape, and getting a new one involves eating salsa, which is an additional win. It's wins all the way down.
    The only question is - mild or hot? For me it's hot every time.

  • @FacesNBases
    @FacesNBases 5 місяців тому

    Great episode. Just wanted to say how much the tip about having the paper smaller than the sponge has changed how well my wet palette has performed. Will start keeping jars for paint water too.
    A question I've had for a while: I'd like to move away from sable brushes because it's an animal product. Do you have any recommendations for good synthetic brushes?

  • @stevedavis3772
    @stevedavis3772 5 місяців тому

    Absolutely love the podcast, it helps keep my hobby time interesting!
    One thing I've always struggled with is clipping out parts off the sprue. No matter how much care and expense I put into this process I always seem to be left with slightly damaged parts.
    Are there any must haves, tool wise for clipping? And what are the best ways to repair scratched or gouged parts on a model.

  • @invincigaz4067
    @invincigaz4067 3 місяці тому

    Is it just me or is the worst part of this hobby pretty much one of the first steps, MOLD LINES 😭 I sometimes find it hard to get started because I know I have to deal with them first. Anyone else feel the same?

  • @STOOJIE
    @STOOJIE 5 місяців тому

    Awesome as always boys . Regarding the masking topic try therapy putty haven't look back since

  • @faidon90125
    @faidon90125 5 місяців тому

    Favorite water pot: Calve Peanut butter glass jars and yes, I keep the lid.
    Glass jars help me assess whether I have cleaned the brush properly while in the pot, I just bring it up to the glass and twist the brush against it.
    Reason I keep the lids is it prevents particles of dust from falling in if I need to take a break.
    Peculiarly, lint and particles still end up painted on the minis... XD

  • @danielbenson7032
    @danielbenson7032 5 місяців тому

    Old herb/spice jars make great painting handles. I struggle to find something comfy for my big shovels

  • @sewinlove_co
    @sewinlove_co 5 місяців тому

    I paint my minis off the base AND I use clear acrylic bases (I think basing looks weird). Go ahead, tell me how awful I am!! 👀

  • @knightsljx
    @knightsljx 5 місяців тому

    what's up with the time stamps? how the heck are people supposed to figure out what the gadget is? Just LABEL it what is actually is
    Gadget 1: Wet Palette
    Gadget 2: Paint Handle
    Gadget 3: Taking Photos of Minis (light boxes)
    Gadget 4: Liquid Mask
    Gadget 5: Basing materials (cork, slate)

  • @thrrax
    @thrrax 5 місяців тому

    The amount of people who didn't know how to make a DIY wet palette is amazing. It's like there were no other videos online about it...
    "You need to remove the air from beneath the sheet or the parchment"... They way it was presented it sounded like no one ever thought of doing that on professional palettes bought from professional manufacturers.

  • @shanelannery
    @shanelannery 5 місяців тому

    I've been looking for a new wet pallet as my Army Painter one feels a bit small. After seeing the step by step instructions I am 100% going for a trip to TK Maxx before I look anywhere else

  • @TheCatHerder
    @TheCatHerder 5 місяців тому

    No name brand garlic pickle jars are the perfect jar for painting. I will literally buy the pickles just because I like the jar size.

  • @brenthartman502
    @brenthartman502 5 місяців тому

    I have a mini fridge for paint ... and other things. It gets pretty hot here in Australia so it's a must. Great vid cheers 😄 (we also have a cement mixer) LOL

  • @kit_race
    @kit_race 5 місяців тому

    I honestly don’t know why people don’t start with a fine art wet palette (with some parchment paper) when they’re getting into using one and go straight for the overpriced hobby branded ones. Mastersons are like 1/3 the price and perform the exact same task if you don’t want to make your own and want something premade.

  • @ForgeFatherKotaun
    @ForgeFatherKotaun 5 місяців тому

    Liquid mask is for canopys and window on model cars and planes. good for 40k flyers with clear canopy

  • @spilbobaggins
    @spilbobaggins 5 місяців тому

    Not sure what they look like in the UK, but over here in the States prescription medicine comes in a perfect sized bottle for a paint holder. Flat top, hand sized bottle. Just stick the model on the top and you're good to go!

  • @komma8203
    @komma8203 5 місяців тому

    Liquid mask is best applyed with a toothpick, and to get it of the model a pencil eraser will work amazing, or you can put a bit of masking tape in the liquid mask and when its dry you can just pull it of by grabbing the tape

  • @uzz7114
    @uzz7114 5 місяців тому

    Question about using a wet palette, I have an Army Painter one, I love using it but when I put the lid on and leave it overnight and come back to paint the next day all of my paint is super diluted and basically unusable. This seems to happen no matter how much water I put on the sponge, anyone have any tips or suggestions?

  • @urSkeks-h95
    @urSkeks-h95 5 місяців тому

    Branston Pickle jar (small chunks obviously)

  • @ajking4836
    @ajking4836 5 місяців тому

    I have a neighbour with a cement mixer. People are weirdly open about their cement mixers and have to tell you for some reason so if you don't know anyone with a cement mixer you can be sure that you don't know anyone with a cement mixer.

  • @picassawi5578
    @picassawi5578 5 місяців тому

    Love the show. today's mini fridge under desk tip was ace :D what next - If you want to store your gaming boards, you can put exactly 3 on your snooker table? :D cheers!

  • @jamescheeseright6412
    @jamescheeseright6412 5 місяців тому

    For the liquid mask, use cocktail sticks to apply it - just be gentle and push it round where you need it and then bin the stick afterwards.

  • @ybfc311
    @ybfc311 5 місяців тому

    i have x3 mcDonalds olympic glasses 🤣 super cheap and you can get a cheese burger too...

  • @AM-uw3gp
    @AM-uw3gp 5 місяців тому

    I was literally just down the shed drilling into a big rock to mount my High Elf Griffon looks way better than cork

  • @jackhammer40k_
    @jackhammer40k_ 5 місяців тому

    Nah, breaking cork is 1000x easier than breaking stone. Cover it in super glue and all good

  • @peterplayingwithleadbrian5464
    @peterplayingwithleadbrian5464 5 місяців тому

    My water goes in a brown clear utility style mug I bought 25 years ago. Just once I have managed to clean it back to original state with no paint crud.

  • @kanecarreras-gough5401
    @kanecarreras-gough5401 5 місяців тому

    "Noone is painting vehicles in sub assembly just to seal up the inside". We'll, about that...

  • @netizenkane
    @netizenkane 5 місяців тому

    Nice watch James. I got the hesalite one with tritium indexes myself. Since yours is a fairly new one, what did you use before this one?

  • @The_Mini_Creative
    @The_Mini_Creative 5 місяців тому

    What are your opinions on the Citadel Water Pot? I personally like it. The groves on the bottom help clean my brushes. Plus I can’t knock it over or accident drink from it because of the odd shape.

  • @scottatkinson666
    @scottatkinson666 5 місяців тому

    Just let your brush sit in a small amount of white spirit for a while and it usually makes removing the masking fluid from the bristles easy. Goes without saying to never use a decent brush.

  • @kgp277
    @kgp277 5 місяців тому

    When I started painting I just cut a plastic water bottle in half, and I still use that as a water pot. 😂 like one of those cheap $1.00 ones..

  • @jiffah
    @jiffah 5 місяців тому

    No one should have Wax paper at home. It is utterly useless. Parchment paper is the way to go.

  • @martynjones3978
    @martynjones3978 5 місяців тому

    Cork is alright if you want to make little rocks on the base!!
    Or debris but i wouldnt use it for boulder sized things!!

  • @DJRockford83
    @DJRockford83 5 місяців тому

    Keep the Doritos pot lid, then when you take it to the sink you won't spill any 😉 same for jam jars obviously lol

  • @DefaultProphet
    @DefaultProphet 5 місяців тому

    Liquid mask is very dependent on manufacturer tbf

  • @lXenn0nl
    @lXenn0nl 5 місяців тому

    Rocks were a must for me with Metal Terminators. Great asteroids to for Battlefleet Gothic

  • @adventurersanonymous1555
    @adventurersanonymous1555 5 місяців тому

    Might be the only one but I do actually have a mini fridge next to my painting desk, will be giving that tip a try!

  • @markbrand436
    @markbrand436 5 місяців тому

    Nescafe Gold Blend jar is my water bottle and the lid is a mixing pot

  • @fallen2205
    @fallen2205 5 місяців тому

    I stick it on the base with PVA, then just pop the model off to take care of the base after I finished the model itself.

  • @iskiebae
    @iskiebae 5 місяців тому

    I tend to use old pill bottles for paint handles. One of the benefits of having a daily medication, I guess

  • @midwesternexplorer9339
    @midwesternexplorer9339 5 місяців тому

    Needs more pictures so we can actually see what products you are talking about.

  • @UK-patriot-Cooper
    @UK-patriot-Cooper 5 місяців тому

    I honestly thought i was bat shirt crazy sitting at my desk with a bottle to mist my pallette... Booyah haterz

  • @unf0ld
    @unf0ld 5 місяців тому

    M&S honey jars, they’re slimmer than normal jars so three water pots doesn’t take up too much space on the desk

  • @invincigaz4067
    @invincigaz4067 3 місяці тому

    I'm watching in a random order and my paint pot is a gentleman's hat.

  • @_wild_bill__
    @_wild_bill__ 5 місяців тому

    Don’t listen to them- the mini fridge in the hobby space with some brews is clutch

  • @beetle5000
    @beetle5000 5 місяців тому

    I use a paper clip to put the liquid mask on and I cake on one chunky layer which works for me 👍

  • @gregoryjordan1740
    @gregoryjordan1740 4 місяці тому

    I too, have a salsa jar for a water cup, and I keep the lid so my cat doesn't try to drink from it.

  • @fakestreetspirit
    @fakestreetspirit 5 місяців тому

    You could keep marines in your minis fridge...

  • @CaptainEshara
    @CaptainEshara 5 місяців тому

    kenco coffee jar for me, i drink a fuck ton of coffee and i want get more value out of them as its expensive coffee :)

  • @WinstonCorneilius
    @WinstonCorneilius 5 місяців тому

    George, please stop interrupting. Thanks

  • @sjaakninaber4989
    @sjaakninaber4989 5 місяців тому

    This guy's knows what's up. Salsa pot is the best pot

  • @solkar7
    @solkar7 5 місяців тому

    My wife saves glass jars for preserves she makes, I just rob them lol

  • @DJRockford83
    @DJRockford83 5 місяців тому

    If you need a sponge for a wet pallette use spontex sheets 👌🏻

  • @TheWraithWA
    @TheWraithWA 5 місяців тому

    I put my wet pallet in the fridge between sessions 😅

  • @tomkillilea6713
    @tomkillilea6713 5 місяців тому

    I use gu pots for my water, one of them is now a drybrush texture jar

  • @bridges_one
    @bridges_one 5 місяців тому

    2 peanut butter jars, regular and metallic.

  • @DanielRuiter
    @DanielRuiter 5 місяців тому

    My water pots are fancy whiskey glasses

  • @crayzeewhorse
    @crayzeewhorse 5 місяців тому

    I use guac pots from tescos for water pots 😂😂😂

  • @honjin91
    @honjin91 5 місяців тому

    Is it wrong to treat our wet palettes like a bonsai tree? 😂

  • @connorthegreat206
    @connorthegreat206 5 місяців тому

    I use a cheap mango chutney jar !!!!

  • @CourtneyRoberts1982
    @CourtneyRoberts1982 5 місяців тому +1

    The American equivalent of blitz paper towels is the “viva signature cloth”. The label is purple with a green ribbon.

    • @sewinlove_co
      @sewinlove_co 5 місяців тому

      I searched the comments for this bit of info. Thanks!!

  • @CAPTA1NHOWDY91
    @CAPTA1NHOWDY91 5 місяців тому

    i use an empty g fuel tub for a water pot

  • @SquidFisT44
    @SquidFisT44 5 місяців тому

    Wet pallette tips are 🔥 thanks!

  • @HorizonIsHere1337
    @HorizonIsHere1337 5 місяців тому

    That was a great episode.

  • @thesigmaritepainter7803
    @thesigmaritepainter7803 5 місяців тому

    Great podcast as always

  • @TheVar666
    @TheVar666 5 місяців тому

    My girlfriend is a professional painter, she has a misting bottle to prevent a skin on the top of her paints as well (though she works in much larger amounts than my mini paints lol)

    • @TheVar666
      @TheVar666 5 місяців тому

      Also pill bottles are great as painting handles that you can accumulate over time.

  • @nathananderson9255
    @nathananderson9255 5 місяців тому

    Salsa jar here too!

  • @northstartaxadvice8251
    @northstartaxadvice8251 5 місяців тому

    Can we also get a live demonstration of James drilling some barrels?🙂

    • @theboldbear1973
      @theboldbear1973 5 місяців тому

      This. I can never get them central, no matter what method I try. I also bought a micro pen drill from Temu, but it only has one speed setting, which is so fast it melts plastic. Useless.

  • @ChuckSepers
    @ChuckSepers 2 місяці тому

    The DYI wet pallet hack was a complete game changer for me. My premium wet pallet never performed the way I needed it to. For the first time, I feel like I can really develop brush control because I know what the paint is going to do. I have made DYI pallets in the past, but seeing the demo was next level.

    • @SiegeStudios
      @SiegeStudios  2 місяці тому +1

      @@ChuckSepers over the moon its helped you! Thank you for letting us know we appreciate it a lot along with your feedback!

    • @ChuckSepers
      @ChuckSepers 2 місяці тому

      @@SiegeStudios I would go so far as to say that listening to the pod has done more for improving my painting than anything I've done before (UA-cam videos, workshops with the Hobby's top artists, etc.). For me, understanding the thought process behind a technique and listening to the discussion about workflows, framing projects, etc., has been the missing link in my understanding to get me to my next level.
      The quality of the pod is so good, you've convinced me to become Patreon supporter! Cheers George and James!

  • @MTGPhlogisten
    @MTGPhlogisten 5 місяців тому

    Just discovered the podcast and I’ve already listened to every episode in 2024 and slowing making my way through last year’s content. I would love to know how that Tiger Kroot was painted. If I can do it I’ll paint my entire army that color scheme.
    Also keep the salsa jar lid so you can shake the jar with liquid to clean it.