How Halo 3 Uses Mystery to CAPTIVATE (ft. Frogarchist)

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  • Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
  • Special thanks to @frogarchist for his collaboration in this video!
    If you could describe Halo 3 in one word, what would it be? If you ask me it would definitely be MYSTERY. The one throughline that connects the original trilogy together and gives us a satisfying conclusion to Bungie's story is exactly that. In this video essay, I dive into the mystery surrounding Bungie's Halo 3.
    Make sure to check out my other videos on the original Halo trilogy, as well as my essay and tribute to Rooster Teeth's Red vs. Blue! Let me know what game, show, or movie I should discuss next in the comments. Thanks for watching! #themysteryofhalo #halo3 #bungie
    Check out my other work on Instagram: @themeaninginbetween.
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  • @frogarchist
    @frogarchist 21 день тому +71

    Thanks for letting me be in your video 🙂

    • @themeaninginbetween
      @themeaninginbetween  21 день тому +9

      Always a pleasure!

    • @ununiqueusername
      @ununiqueusername 21 день тому +5

      @@themeaninginbetweenthanks for letting me be your video too!

    • @BenzGarner
      @BenzGarner 18 днів тому +1

      I always wonder how a frog leaves comments on YT 🤯

  • @rex3457
    @rex3457 21 день тому +15

    It's refreshing to see a video discussing halo as it was in 2007 rather than what halo is now. People often forget that for years halo 3 was the end of halo and the master chief, an ending I still think was perfect. Halo 3 is my favourite in the series despite the flaws in the campaigns writing and pacing. It really felt like the end of halo back in 2007 especially with "never forget" in the main menu.
    The series hasn't felt the same since 2007 and it's a shame there's no way to experience what it was originally

  • @Nichrysalis
    @Nichrysalis 21 день тому +12

    Covering the ODST Dante's Inferno subtext and subsequent dovetailing of the B-plot is always a hit amongst Halo fans, even if well known already. Given your background and gusto, that'd probably be a good video to tackle someday.
    My gut instinct is always going to be to tell other writers to write what you love (then cull your darlings of course) and while I'd love to write about the ODST subtext, I'm working on my own Halo video essay that's pretty much something mostly specific to me, but am hoping to explain why it impacts me so much. And that alone keeps me motivated.
    Long-winded way of saying, write videos about Halo that make you happy, I'm going to support them regardless because I respect your take on the franchise you provide a perspective and presentation outside my own.

  • @Ilostscourgeisoptimusprime
    @Ilostscourgeisoptimusprime 22 дні тому +9

    Frogarchist? I was literally just watching a video of his

  • @TheArchaeon7777
    @TheArchaeon7777 21 день тому +4

    13:50 Goddamn, dude. Nearly brought me to tears. Thinkin' about the ending to season 13 of Red vs. Blue. Excellent video!

  • @Wernissage
    @Wernissage 21 день тому +4

    Your content is on another level! Keep it up🔥
    Nice to see the frog himself make an appearance too!

  • @th3craftymin3r32
    @th3craftymin3r32 16 днів тому

    When I watch people's videos about old Halo, some of them GET certain elements of what made those older games so great. After watching some of your videos, You really understand and have also reminded me how deep the old games went with their story and themes. I've been recently letting myself get gaslit into thinking that Halo has always had a simple story but that obviously isn't the case, and I love these types of videos that put a spotlight on the writing of the old games and what made them so special.

  • @MystGang
    @MystGang 21 день тому +3

    12:57 it's a lot stranger than Bungie implying that humanity were forerunners. During the development of Halo 2 it was definitive (the leaked storyboards showcase it), but Bungie was split on if they were humanity or a different species during Halo 3. The main story implies they're human, but the terminals imply they're different. I think the official explanation is that humanity and forerunners branched off from the same species, but that was only solidified after 343 took over, so it's still a mystery what Bungie would've gone with.

    • @User_5tjk42gj9
      @User_5tjk42gj9 21 день тому +2

      "You ARE forerunner"
      "To have a record of all our lost history" -343 reading about humans
      "Child of my enemy" - gravemind to chief
      Frank O'Connor wrote the terminals and was one of the few who didn't like humanity being forerunner. And when he moved to 343i he retconned what was previously established.

    • @jackofalltraits2145
      @jackofalltraits2145 21 день тому +1

      It was also only the Librarian and Didact third of the terminals that retconned this as the other two thirds (Forerunner Communications and the Journey of Mendicant Bias) very much leaner into Bungie’s original vision.

    • @idkanameimnotthatcreative7456
      @idkanameimnotthatcreative7456 19 днів тому

      Terminals should be taken with a grain of salt. As someone else just said it was written by a dude who would eventually make the worst retcon ever. Bungie just let him do it so he’d stop complaining is what I always imagine. In-game dialogue already confirms they’re humans, along with Halo 2

    • @MystGang
      @MystGang 19 днів тому

      @@idkanameimnotthatcreative7456 That's not the case. Statements made by David Candland, Paul Russel, and Jaime Griesemer confirm it was two "teams" with differing ideas on who the forerunners were. The terminals were credited to a team of 8 authors.

    • @peli2865
      @peli2865 18 днів тому +1

      ⁠@@MystGang it's a long video, but you might want to watch "We Were Forerunners" by C3 Sabertooth

  • @crossby75th88
    @crossby75th88 21 день тому +2

    This dude only having 1.28k subscribers is a crime, at least 500k

  • @Real_Zaneko
    @Real_Zaneko 22 дні тому +3

    I love seeing your channel pop off. You really deserve it!😎

  • @feymasons.7835
    @feymasons.7835 18 днів тому +1

    A flood deep dive videox2ould go crazy. Also, can you please analyze all the halo gam3s?

  • @LOLDUDE641
    @LOLDUDE641 18 днів тому +1

    I'm so happy to see someone give Halo 3's story the props it deserves. Feels like some people have turned hard on it in recent years. But you've definitely laid out some of its triumphs, and reasons why I love it so to this day.
    On another note, great content to start this channel out with! Your videos are really well-shot and edited, and your insight is incredibly captivating. If I could suggest just one game to dissect (provided you're into boomer shooters), it'd be Dusk. It has immaculate atmosphere and a really compelling narrative that's only really drip-fed to the player, in my opinion. I'd love to see your explanation of a story like that. Otherwise, I wish you the best of luck with your future videos!

  • @stickyman05
    @stickyman05 19 днів тому +1

    Wait a second, thats a frog!

  • @hoppeanhelicoptertours
    @hoppeanhelicoptertours 16 днів тому +1

    Glad the frog brought me to your channel, immediately subscribed, really enjoy your content

  • @tristancrumpler400
    @tristancrumpler400 21 день тому +8

    Man, you knocked it out of the park on this analysis of Halo 3 tailers. There was a ton of hype. And that's real. But the message of hope... the idea that MC (In other words we) could finish the fight was so real. Love this stuff man. Keep it up.

  • @Retroplayer6472
    @Retroplayer6472 19 днів тому +1

    Already liked this guy's vids now the frog is here?! Hell yeah

  • @MajesOnTheXbox
    @MajesOnTheXbox 21 день тому +1

    The production value is crazy for all your vids, the intro caught me off guard with the trailer reference

  • @razgriz4978
    @razgriz4978 21 день тому +3

    I found this video when it had 343 views and had been released 7 hours ago. Real life easter egg.
    Also, the Marathon series would make for a good transition if you wanted something like a through-line. I describe it to other people as "Proto-Halo," but it's got its own uniquely rich and mysterious universe.

  • @P0Wmrang
    @P0Wmrang 19 днів тому +1

    Next up on the halo video guest list: B00mrang, the creator of the micro hit machinima series CRASH.

  • @pippin45
    @pippin45 21 день тому +1

    I could talk for HOURS about BioShock. I'd love to hear your takes on the series!

  • @jaredbryant8297
    @jaredbryant8297 2 дні тому

    Thank you for making this video

  • @alexsantiago3181
    @alexsantiago3181 19 днів тому

    I just finished Halo 3 two days ago. It was incredible, creepy, mysterious, and so fun. A truly great game.

  • @kailyn2299
    @kailyn2299 21 день тому +2

    MY TWO FAVORITE UA-camRS

  • @marcusszavaleta
    @marcusszavaleta 18 днів тому

    Dude this video is amazing, thanks for posting

  • @HarryChrisp
    @HarryChrisp 20 днів тому

    Great video! Keep them coming!

  • @codybeardsley
    @codybeardsley 21 день тому +1

    Wow, this was a great video! Immediately got my sub 🖤 Halo 3 is something special

  • @LongJohn-sk7lg
    @LongJohn-sk7lg 21 день тому

    Bravo man, another banger!

  • @PANCAKEMINEZZ
    @PANCAKEMINEZZ 18 днів тому

    "Halo 4 a good interpretation"
    I mean... It's an interpretation, I agree. Lol

  • @spirit_green
    @spirit_green 17 днів тому

    DEFINITELY do one on Bioshock for sure!

  • @Andre232323232332323
    @Andre232323232332323 21 день тому +2

    Hey man just letting you know, that on the minute 8:30 that’s not an Egypt pyramid, that’s a Mexican pyramid in Teotihuacán, the pyramid of the sun.

    • @themeaninginbetween
      @themeaninginbetween  21 день тому

      Wow, good catch! Honestly just grabbed some footage of pyramids from stock footage to get the point across. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @Andre232323232332323
      @Andre232323232332323 21 день тому

      @@themeaninginbetween it’s all good! Great video dude!

    • @Andre232323232332323
      @Andre232323232332323 21 день тому +1

      @@themeaninginbetween I wanna elaborate a bit that, the pyramid of the sun is actually a better and more interesting example than the pyramids of Giza; Teotihuacán wasn’t built by the Mexicans (Aztecs), it just happens that the Mexicans (Aztecs) stumbled upon its ruins, and decided to live there.
      As of today, there are no certain data nor information of which ancient civilization built Teotihuacán along with all its pyramids, so I’d say it’s a better example to contrast with the forerunners than, for example, the Giza pyramids! (Although the Egyptian ones are way older)

    • @themeaninginbetween
      @themeaninginbetween  21 день тому

      That’s awesome! I didn’t know that! I’ll have to head down a rabbit hole about that now haha

  • @Yargulious
    @Yargulious 21 день тому

    Nicely done, you chose the perfect theme for this one. I always liked how the original trilogy hints at the motive of the Forerunners without them ever making an appearance. Then Halo 3 really brought it home with the Ark.

  • @sandran17
    @sandran17 21 день тому

    he heard me he heard me!!!

  • @novic329
    @novic329 21 день тому +1

    Have you played that system shock remake that was developed by a small team of fans of the original? I'm loving it so far since they maintained a lot of the aesthetics in a modern engine.

  • @Tristan_Homewood
    @Tristan_Homewood 15 днів тому

    God damn dude thank you for your insight

  • @levi22es
    @levi22es 20 днів тому

    Awesome video! I’d love more Halo stuff from you, but Gears of War would be another great franchise to tackle. Very similar to Halo in a lot of ways despite the games themselves being quite different.

  • @TheGarvin
    @TheGarvin 12 днів тому

    I would personally be interested in seeing you discuss the Half-Life games.

  • @TheRealBoogaloo
    @TheRealBoogaloo 21 день тому

    The story of how a legend is born...

  • @Phillibetrus
    @Phillibetrus 21 день тому +9

    No 343i interpretation of the Forerunners is not compatible with the Bungie games. We were given very little but what we were given repeatedly re-enforced that Humans were Forerunner. Even if the Greg Bear novels contradicted nothing, that part of the backstory should never have been filled in like that. Continue to let us wonder about the mysterious ancient Humans and drip feed us info in the games and books set in the modern (26th century) time. Immediately answering all those questions spoiled a lot of fun conversations and theorizing Halo fans could still be having. Introducing the Didact alive 100,000 years later was one of the worst decisions they could have made.

  • @EpsilonXenos
    @EpsilonXenos 21 день тому

    Yooo he uploaded another Halo video! 😤😤😤

  • @rattissar5892
    @rattissar5892 21 день тому

    I feel like you didn’t mention the Ark, the installation where all others came from

  • @Skajun0
    @Skajun0 18 днів тому

    this guy gets it

  • @drakeversteeg2782
    @drakeversteeg2782 7 днів тому

    what is isle of B and I found your channel trough a video taking about every season of rvb he is called Gazpacho1

  • @spencermcnolty3391
    @spencermcnolty3391 19 днів тому +1

    🐸

  • @user-mt3yh1pw5k
    @user-mt3yh1pw5k 16 днів тому

    You should think of the half life series!

  • @adoringfan4194
    @adoringfan4194 18 днів тому

    Can't believe he said that Halo 4 had a good story 🤦‍♀️ only mystery is how he is so young yet bald already

  • @PackHunter117
    @PackHunter117 21 день тому +2

    You don’t need to review the 343 games but are you gonna review Reach, ODST, and Halo Wars despite it not being a Bungie game?

    • @themeaninginbetween
      @themeaninginbetween  21 день тому +1

      Definitely Reach and ODST! Never been much of an RPG fan so honestly I’m not super familiar with halo wars other than watching the cutscenes online.

    • @PackHunter117
      @PackHunter117 21 день тому

      @@themeaninginbetween Ah i see that makes sense. I know many in the Halo community like the game for the artstyle, cutscenes, story, soundtrack, and other things. The soundtrack is easily the best non Marty ODonnel soundtrack in the IP.

  • @gracewhite8755
    @gracewhite8755 21 день тому +1

    Feat. me 😎

  • @ununiqueusername
    @ununiqueusername 21 день тому

    am i THE ONLY one who doesn’t mind the Cortana and Gravemind interruptions??

    • @Phillibetrus
      @Phillibetrus 21 день тому +1

      No I enjoyed them... thought it was a great way to show chief breaking down and being human without having him talk

    • @ununiqueusername
      @ununiqueusername 21 день тому +1

      @@Phillibetrus FINALLY!

  • @inspectorwhoreacts
    @inspectorwhoreacts 21 день тому

    NieR Automata

  • @kivinrepoio9288
    @kivinrepoio9288 21 день тому

    Disagree, every halo after ce loses that mystery, halo 3 is more mystique and epic. But since halo 2 it doesnt feel mysterious anymore. Its because halo 2 and 3 look more cartoonish and colorful, meanwhile ce looks more serious and dark. Sometimes halo fans gotta leave nostalgia aside.