Fun fact for anyone wondering about the first ever cross play game it was called SNK2 in Japan, the 2 platforms that were able to was the Sega Dreamcast and the Playstation 2
Yeah I was going to say like I'm pretty sure that fortnite wasn't the first one to introduce cross play like there's no games before like there was a handful of games but fortnite was the one who popularized that but you know cross play is not bad
Because that's where true gamers are. Xbox isn't as expensive as pc. Cheating is too easy on pc, virtually impossible on xbox. Playstation has easily allowed cheaters on there too. True gamers know xbox is legit.
@@TheHighBrew yeah but that’s because they can’t afford a PC you said doesn’t help the cause at all. I can’t play with any of my friends and that’s not OK. Play should exist games. Just need to take a better stance against cheaters not all PC players are cheater people act like every single person plays on PC is a cheater and that’s not true. They ruin the platform for us and it’s terrible, you have to remember PCM are the two biggest markets in the entire world you can’t just not have the platform. The fact that game still not have cross play to this day is a problem because game developers don’t want it improve their game and fight against cheaters it’s ridiculous.
@@TheHighBrewI mean you can cheat on anything, hate to break it to you but I can assure you "true gamers☝️🤓" aren't playing on console look at eSports the people making the most from gaming are 90% PC for a reason
I know so much better for us PC players not being able to play with y’all! Because guess what, not every PC player is a god gamer, and every console player, at least gets help with they aimz
I don't think crossplay ruined Call of Duty, I think what ruined Call of Duty is streamers and UA-camrs telling us the most outlandishly op guns possible instead of people exploring all the other guns and trying them out.
@@IAmProdAGsbmm has always been in cod. All Sbmm does is enhances more of what the playerbase already is. You can’t deny the fact there are far more sweats in recent cods then there every was in past games. People like to sweat nowadays
What they should do, is also add an option to only have cross play between consoles only, so there's 3 options, cross play fully enabled, cross play-console only, and cross play fully disabled.
@@Gsuneow why should u play in my pc lobbies when u cant afford a working pc for call of duty bro. makes no sense consoles already have the option only and its stupid asf. it takes 0 skill on controller no raw inputs been playing pc for 9-10 years csgo r6 counter strike call of duty back to bo2 days. target assist is the consoles wife pc u actually need skill and knowledge
It's always been a downside, didn't need MW2019 to figure that out, But i never ran into any hackers in 2019 or mid 2020, When Cold war beta dropped and everyone slowly migrated over is when i started noticing few hackers but the game was already dead by that point it didn't matter, MW2019 i think was the shortest lived Cod game (Multiplayer), Bo4 lasted until early 2020 for me and every other Cod stayed relevant even in the slightest ways. I sometimes jump back on Bo2 and WaW just to have some fun, i haven't started up MW2019 since late 2020, One thing i never understood is why your rank resets every "Season" so when you log on games like CW your ranks back to 0 and you don't get that nostalgic feeling like you do on older ones, seeing your prestige level and then reliving all your old memories and such. never get that feeling with any of these new Cods. Just get blasted with a bunch of cosmetic skins that add no gameplay value and look silly, When i jumped on MWII and saw Nicki Minaj as a playable character i knew this game was done. WaW: 2008 - 2015 MW2: 2011 - 2013 BO1: 2010 - 2012 MW3: 2011 - 2013 BO2: 2012 - 2016 GHOST: 2013 - 2014 AW: 2014 - 2015 BO3: 2015 - 2017 IW: 2016 - 2017 WW2: 2017 - 2018 BO4: 2018 - 2020 MW19: 2019 - 2020 CW: 2020 - 2022 VG: Never played MWII: 2022 - 2023 MWIII: 2023 - BO2 2025: 2024 - 2030? BO2 remake is all i'll ever need, lets get a tranzit remake with Bus Route B
@@SecretlySlimeyI mean a good console player can handle themselves in PC lobbies happens more than you'd think issue is if you aren't that great of a console player yes you will have a worse time but it's because of skill
@ its not that at all not to big myself up but i’d say I’m easily top 5% of cod players 2+ kd consistently getting 60 kills and completely just slapping through lobbies again not trying to big myself up but even i get slapped by some average players on pc and when i watch the kill cam i just laugh because he or she 90% of the time only got the kill on me because they are able to turn around so much faster than me they also have way less recoil and better accuracy than us console players
The simple fix is to have cross-platform be selective. If your on pc you will not get any console players in your games unless you are in a party with a console player. And if your console then both Xbox and playstation can play togethor but no pc unless you have a pc in your party
@@kentsandroses3706that's because you are on PS and they are allowed to turn off crossplay because it's an exclusivity for PS. For anyone in Xbox, you will not find a match if you turn this off. It puts you into shadow ban lobbies. You will be searching at 200ms ping but never be able to find a match.
No? This is what happens when servers for a platform die down in popularity. Look at Black Ops Ii for an example - I could do so all day, it's fantastic - the PC servers aren't very active. Even including the Plutonium private servers, the game doesn't often reach much more than 100 players at any given time. I imagine that on xbox 360, however, people always go back to it because it's simply always been a franchise that has been more popular on consoles. The only reason the game dies and matches get hard to find if you turn off crossplay is because you probably play on PC, and I haven't seen many PC players lately (at least not on MW19. Though I have been playing with a controller, so that might affect it).
@kentsandroses3706 As I explained in my comment, this guy probably plays on PC. If that's the case, then it makes sense why he's not finding many matches. CoD games, like it or not, have always been more popular on consoles. This is just a fact of life. So if you play on PC, and turn off crossplay, you're just setting yourself up to not run into as many matches.
Eh I mean a lot of people still want the option to play on all platforms I play pc and I can play wit my brother on his xbox. It would kinda suck to not have that option
I still want mouse keyboard support for more games thow best way to play is that people just cry about mouse and keybord it's not that much an advantage I play controller to I'm good with both
@@steelsilence19Bruh ofc there's a big skill difference between kbm and controller have you seen it when you play against a xim on siege like you will always get shit on because they will always have better aim than you and that just facts.
@@BOZO714You still get aim assist on mnk with a xim. So of course theyre gonna have better shots than you, but if you look at a game like apex; controller is arguably better
Im not against crossplay and as a xbox player i took a great pride in stomping on anyone that was pc. But also once fov has been exposed i personally hate that my experience wasnt fair. Essentially we're not even playing the same game, it just looks like it. Idc what anyone says when you make certain adjustments you get to move around faster. In a 2d world i think these things actually matter. Like fov and sens changes the game drastically, and frames reign king. I believe its some unmentionables as far as inconsistencies in the system still to this day that needs to be fix. Honestly to be transparent the whole game itself seems to be designed for the pc players. As in is no long a casual or competitive shooter, its a content simulator. I think we the community are missing that.
What ruined this franchise is absolutely everyone using the exact same weapons with the exact same attachments. Why do they even bother designing and rendering other weapons. At this point just ship us a game with 1 weapon. Everyone will be using it anyways 😅
As a pc player I love it the excuse of us having an advantage is somewhat true but SBMM is there anyways so it doesn’t matter we play vs ppl with same skills or even higher if u consider console player which a locked behind the hardware barrier to unfold all their skills. It’s just awesome to hop on Cold War and find lobby’s in every game mode wich is unthinkable of old platform locked games
Cross play options should give the player the ability to choose who they cross play with! As a example, It would be awesome in the option menu, under cross play, if it gave a option to select Xbox players, Playstation players, and PC players. Then you select which players can join in your lobby. That would be awesome. Much better than "cross play on or off?"
the player base is too small for this kind of matchmaking. you would sit in matchmaking for 30 min until it finds 150 other players with your skill rating and connection. keep in mind 90% of the player base quit.
Certain platforms would literally die if this happened and Activision knows this. Knowing the majority, they just want PC out of the equation despite crossplay being the only thing keeping the PC side of CoD alive to begin with. Until PC gets the same amount of players the consoles get, that’ll never happen.
its good because i am on ps4 and practically no one has mics but when i use crossplay I can get into good games with funny or helpful players with mics
@@ashten6259 that's true but you just get more keyboard and mouse players in the game there's still controller players espacially if you're playing with a friend on controller
@@archimedestool yeah that’s true but it’s also to equal out the overall playerbase. there’s a lot of controller players that are much better than keyboard players, and a lot of keyboard players that are better than controller players
Crossplay is fine as an opt in feature like you get matched with PC if you play with PC but gave the optiom to opt in full crossplay either by ticking a box or by having a teammate in your squad that is on console. However I'm not a fan of forced crossplay which is what most companies are doing nowadays.
That's fair cause it can be even worse than console vs pc. I remember back when PUBG mobile first released, we have pc emulator players. So we have MnK players, with aim assist, against phone users. It was fixed a few weeks later fortunately, separating emulator/controller players with actual mobile players
It doesn't have it anymore. People would just log into codm play a match then connect a controller to play against touch controller players. So instead of working on fixing that problem they just disabled it.
My buddies and I have been talking about this for months and you straight up described it the same way we did. Great video and great wording bro. People will complain that they can't play with their friends anymore, but that's a small price to pay for equality to everyone
Love it or hate it, crossplay keeps old games alive. I mean combining the playerbase into one huge pool instead of seperate pools means youll still find matches
CoD literally needs crossplay though for PC players it was impossible to find anything outside of TDM or S&D in BO3 after a few months on PC And im not one of the sweats using meta load outs and cranking up my FoV. I’m just grinding gun levels, camos, and just wanna find a damn lobby :/
@@XJollyFreakX I don’t have a desk, I’m not buying a mouse and keyboard for console, lmao the aim assist doesn’t compensate for joysticks. Mouse and keyboard will always be easier than a controller 😂😂😂
@@austingutierrez2709No what he's saying is that you can potentially have the exact same advantage on console since they have mouse + kb support. It's not crossplay exclusive Even then used to you would just get a kb/mouse converter and have even more of an advantage I'm not even sure what kind of advantage you'd have, pretty much all of my friends who play on PC prefer controller and most of them play competitively so I'm not so sure it's the advantage yall think it is
@@WilliamSellers-kn9yx I’ve played pc and do infinitely better with a mouse and keyboard than a controller. That was also the 1 and only time I played vs the 10+ years of console gaming. Aiming is easier, movement is easier, hitting shots is easier 😂
another stupid ass thing is that playstation was able to turn off cross play for MW2 and 3 but xbox players weren’t able to there was no toggle for it at all
So it’s not just the SBMM that was the problem it’s also cross play as well. I need to turn off cross play when I play multiplayer and turn it back on for Zombies and for my friends.
i like crossplay but i do understand that in a competitive gameplay like cod without anticheats was taken advantage by pc. This is the reason why i prefer anything non pvp related to be allowed with crossplay but in pvp either make everyone play on the same playing field or just don't put crossplay on pvp
Can you turn off PC compatibility in the menus? That way you cann keep just it to the console base then, and those wanting to play PC players can as well. Best of both.
The easiest solution is to have crossplay be only between consoles, but as soon as a console player wants to play with their PC buddy, it switches to PC
Crossplay worked with Need For Speed Underground for those PC gamers playing against one another on the PS2. EA Games experimented that part back in '03. Even Games For Windows Live did it with people crossplaying it with the PC and Xbox 360. Take Lost Planet Colonies, Shadowrun, and Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, for example. EA, Ubisoft, and Sierra for all I know, said no to GFWL. It had a nasty history of having a 50% of having your save files corrupted. Synchronizing your Xbox account to GFWL wasn't even a thing, and the files were encrypted. No way to copy them.
Bro to anyone thats not aware, the majority of hacks come from steam players. The steam community could care less about cod being modded, infact modding and hacking are a common things in steam culture. Honestly they should just keep steam as a separate thing. Crossplay has ruined ping times and lag. My xbox 5 going against a rig with 40gb ram and then wondering why people complain. it went from a connectivity issue (server based problems on the same consoles) To a physical issue. (Being completely out matched by professional rigs)
Fun fact, cross play wasn't a thing for so long because Playstation didn't want it and said it wasnt possible, but fortnite had a "bug" that allowed it, and it soon became the standard
I think it's the monetization that ruined it. The shop and preorder bundles are always prioritized while the gameplay itself is broken on arrival and the things we actually want are saved for later or the next game.
No but what did ruin cod is SBMM, bc the matching worked as follows. You got some bad, decent, and then really good players in EVERY lobby which gave you an opportunity to improve. But with SBMM it seems like when you win a lot it just puts you up against people was better than you, and when you lose it puts you with people way worse than you. There is no in between and also idk but sbmm probably matches match making a little harder, bc instead of just finding a match quickly it looks for the appropriate players to pair you up with.
I am on pc and turn off crossplay. I noticably get less cheaters. Tbh its a rare occasion now. Jailbroken consoles with hacks are more common than pc hackers. I enjoy never having hackers in my games
Console crossplay is good. Throwing PC in the crossplay with console is not good. Thats why cod is having a hard time to take down these hackers. And they just don't care about it either
Thank you for making this video. Cross platform has completely ruined this franchise. As a skilled console player, it’s infuriating to face players that are literally twice as fast as you due to the frames, customized audio, brighter resolution etc. I do not under any circumstances want to play with PC players, bring back Console only lobbies. Edit: How tf couldn’t forget about a cheater in literally every lobby now 😩
There’s a locked in aim input for controller and keyboard that you can’t change mid match and honestly I think controller users on PC shouldn’t be bonded to playing in mouse and keyboard lobbies
Cross-play is a mandatory thing for new games. I still think that the possibility to play with your friend regardless the platform is something fantastic.
What pissed most people off was Xbox had forced crossplay where as psn had the option to turn it off and if you turned crossplay off in xbox settings you’d never find a single match
roller players have it easy with 360° movement, strong aim assist, and reduced recoil. if they cant keep up its on them. (nearly every cod pro is on controller)
Disabling crossplay for me on Xbox is a nightmare to the point I'm constantly being bombarded with a message asking me for permission to disable it. It's so bad that I have to leave it off.
Aim assist has nothing to do with cross-play, lol. You’re talking about the difference between mouse and keyboard vs controller. People can use both on both console and PC. The dude was saying that PC gamers as a whole have an advantage over console players because of the power of their PC and PC monitors
Crossplay is a huge issue, no matter what, even Anti-Cheat stuff won’t leave a scratch on these selfish and annoying PC hackers, plus, why the hell is it always some child being a dumb hacker???
Funny enough, in Crash Team Rumble, the main menu states "Cross Play Enabled.", but there's no option to turn it off. It's probably pointless as there's only the Playstation version and the Xbox version and no Nintendo Switch and PC versions. Not to mention that the entirety of the small active community play mostly on Playstation. I have the Xbox version and I hardly find Xbox players.
I think that its a great thing if they just made it so that you have an option to turn off individual consoles, so that if you have a friend who plays Playstation, but youre on xbox, you can still do that without having to worry about pc players
So, this problem is worse on MW3 2023/2024 version. I'm a console play on the newest CoD title, call of duty black ops six. On MW3 there was forced corssplay and when I played and there was a user I'm pretty sure he was banned but he was in every match I played on MW3, it felt like he was targeting me. But I got bo6 cross-gen it was perfectly fine. I'm wondering if bo6 has forced cross-play.
Crossplay saved a lot of games. Look at Apex Legends….i remember how long it would take to find matches before crossplay and that was on PS4. Friends said it was also horrible on PC when it came to matchmaking. Crossplay definitely helped a lot of these games especially CoD
I remember when the came out with the broken AS Val attachment that gave you super FMG. Paired those with snapshots and I was STILL called a cheater. Some bs.
The only problem with cross play is that it’s forced nowadays. It could be better if you could select what platforms u wanted to go up against so that way it evens the play field
they need to add Console only Crossplay. Even though I don't mind going against PC Players. You will always get out moved and out skilled by a good MnK player. and with SBMM. Thats it (Xbox for anyone wondering)
I’m on PC. Crossplay saved and even revived my interest in CoD. The fact that I can now play CoD without worrying about the playerbase dying after the first few months of release is a blessing along with being able to play with friends and relatives without dropping hundreds on a new platform just for a few sessions. Activision is just lazy and refuses to fix basic issues and now the PC community is getting all the blame.
Fr, I played cod before crossplay on PC and it was basically like waiting the same amount of time it would take to find a higher skill ranked match like in CS but for a casual cod lobby shit was annoying and you'd play the same people fairly quickly. The issue is the terrible anti chest and servers and hell cod you have an advantage with controller games like siege and CS you got an advantage with keyboard and mouse but cod has the strongest aim assist I've ever seen in any shooter directly for controller
Do you like crossplay?
Yea crossplay nice for my friend we all have different consoles and one has a pc so yea it’s good
I'm so good that the only way to sharpen my skills is to use crossplay
Only when I'm playing with my friends 😅
not for fps, driving or flying and open world it's not as bad
@@bighamspamjrpfp and comment say alot
Fun fact for anyone wondering about the first ever cross play game it was called SNK2 in Japan, the 2 platforms that were able to was the Sega Dreamcast and the Playstation 2
Wait…who even played Dreamcast 🤣🤣
Dreamcast was awesome as hell man!
Yeah I was going to say like I'm pretty sure that fortnite wasn't the first one to introduce cross play like there's no games before like there was a handful of games but fortnite was the one who popularized that but you know cross play is not bad
Looks like it's release just barely beat Final Fantasy XI to also be cross platform between PC and PS2 (SNK2 came out roughly a year before)
@@blakjesus803don’t be dissin jet set radio
Without it, I couldnt play with my friends
Edit: bro wtf happened theres ww3 going on
True!
And that’s why I use it lmao
No one cares buddy it still ruined cod
@@MonkeyD.Willza dude shut up you are just mad because you can’t even get a Xbox player to like you
@@MonkeyD.WillzaIt* didn’t ruin cod. The community and the skill-less idiot that have to cheat did, including you.
SBMM is what ruined cod, not crossplay
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ITS EOMM THATS BAD NOT SBMM YOU BRAINWASHED MORON 😂
The only people I ever see posting this are those who can't go into a match to stomp everyone...
@jallop7918 nah man you are incorrect people just wanna have fun and apparently can't have fun unless they are stomping everyone 😂
@sabastianmatchett6441 , my bad. That is true. The epeen must be stroked or one doesn't have fun.
@@jallop7918it’s pubs there should be no rank involved in match making
Yeah, some Activision employee got mad at me because I kept killing him with a throwing knife and the next day later I got banned
The thing is, I've seen that Activision employees have special tags by their name, so I 100% believe it 😭
My bad 😂
Bro without context it sound like you just committed a crime 🙏🏽💀😭
@@Shadyblxtz bro just got banned irl😭😭😭
Yeah that didn't happen
Without cross play, I couldn’t play with a lot of of my friends, because almost none of them play on PC they all play Xbox
Because that's where true gamers are. Xbox isn't as expensive as pc. Cheating is too easy on pc, virtually impossible on xbox. Playstation has easily allowed cheaters on there too. True gamers know xbox is legit.
@@TheHighBrew yeah but that’s because they can’t afford a PC you said doesn’t help the cause at all. I can’t play with any of my friends and that’s not OK. Play should exist games. Just need to take a better stance against cheaters not all PC players are cheater people act like every single person plays on PC is a cheater and that’s not true. They ruin the platform for us and it’s terrible, you have to remember PCM are the two biggest markets in the entire world you can’t just not have the platform. The fact that game still not have cross play to this day is a problem because game developers don’t want it improve their game and fight against cheaters it’s ridiculous.
@@TheHighBrewI mean you can cheat on anything, hate to break it to you but I can assure you "true gamers☝️🤓" aren't playing on console look at eSports the people making the most from gaming are 90% PC for a reason
I always turn off crossplay when I'm by myself. Generally leads to a better experience.
WAY better lol
My friend is in controler and I play on PC is FREE KILLS (no build) bro he's low level btw
I know so much better for us PC players not being able to play with y’all! Because guess what, not every PC player is a god gamer, and every console player, at least gets help with they aimz
Ik
Bro i try to turn it off and the game MAKES me turn it back on
I don't think crossplay ruined Call of Duty, I think what ruined Call of Duty is streamers and UA-camrs telling us the most outlandishly op guns possible instead of people exploring all the other guns and trying them out.
NAH, It definitely was skill base match making.
It is both, but it isn’t “ruined” it is still a fun game to play, but things change, we have to adapt. Welcome to life!
@@IAmProdAG It is, but I think it is also the meta-weapons.
I can agree with this on a small level
@@IAmProdAGsbmm has always been in cod. All Sbmm does is enhances more of what the playerbase already is. You can’t deny the fact there are far more sweats in recent cods then there every was in past games. People like to sweat nowadays
They should add an option to enable crossplay just between consoles, this will solve mostly of the problems that you mentioned.
I’ve been saying that since warzone launched. Mixing PC and console was the real mistake.
Yeah never understood why activision hasn’t come up with that as an idea. There’s other games out there that just allow crossplay between consoles.
Enlisted did that
No, CoDs on PC die exceptionally fast otherwise.
Shiter just get good
Call of duty ruined call of duty
Ngl I like cross play in a way as we get like a aim helper thing but also keyboard have a full arm to pivot around so it’s kinda fair
What they should do, is also add an option to only have cross play between consoles only, so there's 3 options, cross play fully enabled, cross play-console only, and cross play fully disabled.
Horrible idea. Cross play should be only for consoles.
I mean, doesn't master chief collection have input based and platform based matchmaking?
Horrible Idea. In that way people will not be able to play with their friends on Pc
@@AbstractS04Yes but only for official modes, custom games can be played with whatever you want and whatever systems you want.
@@Gsuneow why should u play in my pc lobbies when u cant afford a working pc for call of duty bro. makes no sense consoles already have the option only and its stupid asf. it takes 0 skill on controller no raw inputs been playing pc for 9-10 years csgo r6 counter strike call of duty back to bo2 days. target assist is the consoles wife pc u actually need skill and knowledge
It's always been a downside, didn't need MW2019 to figure that out, But i never ran into any hackers in 2019 or mid 2020, When Cold war beta dropped and everyone slowly migrated over is when i started noticing few hackers but the game was already dead by that point it didn't matter, MW2019 i think was the shortest lived Cod game (Multiplayer), Bo4 lasted until early 2020 for me and every other Cod stayed relevant even in the slightest ways.
I sometimes jump back on Bo2 and WaW just to have some fun, i haven't started up MW2019 since late 2020, One thing i never understood is why your rank resets every "Season" so when you log on games like CW your ranks back to 0 and you don't get that nostalgic feeling like you do on older ones, seeing your prestige level and then reliving all your old memories and such.
never get that feeling with any of these new Cods. Just get blasted with a bunch of cosmetic skins that add no gameplay value and look silly, When i jumped on MWII and saw Nicki Minaj as a playable character i knew this game was done.
WaW: 2008 - 2015
MW2: 2011 - 2013
BO1: 2010 - 2012
MW3: 2011 - 2013
BO2: 2012 - 2016
GHOST: 2013 - 2014
AW: 2014 - 2015
BO3: 2015 - 2017
IW: 2016 - 2017
WW2: 2017 - 2018
BO4: 2018 - 2020
MW19: 2019 - 2020
CW: 2020 - 2022
VG: Never played
MWII: 2022 - 2023
MWIII: 2023 -
BO2 2025: 2024 - 2030?
BO2 remake is all i'll ever need, lets get a tranzit remake with Bus Route B
It’s a downside if u don’t have cross platform friends
@@DBANZZ_mno its a downside all the time pc shouldn’t be with consoles its not even an opinion its a fact at this point
@@SecretlySlimeyI mean a good console player can handle themselves in PC lobbies happens more than you'd think issue is if you aren't that great of a console player yes you will have a worse time but it's because of skill
@ its not that at all not to big myself up but i’d say I’m easily top 5% of cod players 2+ kd consistently getting 60 kills and completely just slapping through lobbies again not trying to big myself up but even i get slapped by some average players on pc and when i watch the kill cam i just laugh because he or she 90% of the time only got the kill on me because they are able to turn around so much faster than me they also have way less recoil and better accuracy than us console players
Bro really said Fortnite introduced crossplay.
same cant believe he said that there was a shooter on 360 back in 07 cant remember the name but it was 10 yrs before anything fortnite
i feel like fortnite made crossplay a well known thing. it may have been before, but wasn't talked about nearly as much
They didn’t introduce it but they made it frow
@@johnaraya3761 it was Shadowrun i believe.
It’s what made it famous. So cod went and took the idea and made cod a sweat fest.
The simple fix is to have cross-platform be selective. If your on pc you will not get any console players in your games unless you are in a party with a console player. And if your console then both Xbox and playstation can play togethor but no pc unless you have a pc in your party
They should make it so you can do full cross play or console only
If only turning off cross play wasn’t a playstation exclusive 💀
cant xbox do it too?
@@Tdawgsmitty nope 😭
@tdawgsmitty nope. Originally it was a feature but xbox players are basically chained to crossplay. It's why I stopped playing mw2 mid season 3
I can turn it off on my xbox
@@goofygoober420 not an option on mine lmao
Warzone and having to buy everything rather than earning it is the problem, crossplay is nothing compared to those
If you turn off crossplay on any of the cods, you can't find matches. They deliberately done this to force crossplay on.
I never use cross play and have no issues getting matches on Ps5. Maybe it’s a region issue for you?
@@kentsandroses3706that's because you are on PS and they are allowed to turn off crossplay because it's an exclusivity for PS. For anyone in Xbox, you will not find a match if you turn this off. It puts you into shadow ban lobbies. You will be searching at 200ms ping but never be able to find a match.
Are you using a VPN? Try setting it to a different region.
No? This is what happens when servers for a platform die down in popularity. Look at Black Ops Ii for an example - I could do so all day, it's fantastic - the PC servers aren't very active. Even including the Plutonium private servers, the game doesn't often reach much more than 100 players at any given time.
I imagine that on xbox 360, however, people always go back to it because it's simply always been a franchise that has been more popular on consoles.
The only reason the game dies and matches get hard to find if you turn off crossplay is because you probably play on PC, and I haven't seen many PC players lately (at least not on MW19. Though I have been playing with a controller, so that might affect it).
@kentsandroses3706 As I explained in my comment, this guy probably plays on PC. If that's the case, then it makes sense why he's not finding many matches. CoD games, like it or not, have always been more popular on consoles. This is just a fact of life. So if you play on PC, and turn off crossplay, you're just setting yourself up to not run into as many matches.
I wish crossplay was console vs console.
Cross play came and every hacker came with it!
Another console peasant clown.
When we were asking for cross play we wanted console vs console. Not console vs pc.
EXACTLY WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET THAT
Eh I mean a lot of people still want the option to play on all platforms I play pc and I can play wit my brother on his xbox. It would kinda suck to not have that option
I still want mouse keyboard support for more games thow best way to play is that people just cry about mouse and keybord it's not that much an advantage I play controller to I'm good with both
@@steelsilence19Bruh ofc there's a big skill difference between kbm and controller have you seen it when you play against a xim on siege like you will always get shit on because they will always have better aim than you and that just facts.
@@BOZO714You still get aim assist on mnk with a xim. So of course theyre gonna have better shots than you, but if you look at a game like apex; controller is arguably better
Im not against crossplay and as a xbox player i took a great pride in stomping on anyone that was pc. But also once fov has been exposed i personally hate that my experience wasnt fair. Essentially we're not even playing the same game, it just looks like it. Idc what anyone says when you make certain adjustments you get to move around faster. In a 2d world i think these things actually matter. Like fov and sens changes the game drastically, and frames reign king. I believe its some unmentionables as far as inconsistencies in the system still to this day that needs to be fix. Honestly to be transparent the whole game itself seems to be designed for the pc players. As in is no long a casual or competitive shooter, its a content simulator. I think we the community are missing that.
What ruined this franchise is absolutely everyone using the exact same weapons with the exact same attachments. Why do they even bother designing and rendering other weapons. At this point just ship us a game with 1 weapon. Everyone will be using it anyways 😅
As a pc player I love it the excuse of us having an advantage is somewhat true but SBMM is there anyways so it doesn’t matter we play vs ppl with same skills or even higher if u consider console player which a locked behind the hardware barrier to unfold all their skills.
It’s just awesome to hop on Cold War and find lobby’s in every game mode wich is unthinkable of old platform locked games
Cross play options should give the player the ability to choose who they cross play with! As a example, It would be awesome in the option menu, under cross play, if it gave a option to select Xbox players, Playstation players, and PC players. Then you select which players can join in your lobby. That would be awesome. Much better than "cross play on or off?"
the player base is too small for this kind of matchmaking. you would sit in matchmaking for 30 min until it finds 150 other players with your skill rating and connection. keep in mind 90% of the player base quit.
Certain platforms would literally die if this happened and Activision knows this. Knowing the majority, they just want PC out of the equation despite crossplay being the only thing keeping the PC side of CoD alive to begin with. Until PC gets the same amount of players the consoles get, that’ll never happen.
I turn off cross platform but I still get forced to turn it on or I can’t play😂
It forced me to have cross play on or else I couldn’t play 😭
its good because i am on ps4 and practically no one has mics but when i use crossplay I can get into good games with funny or helpful players with mics
I keep trying to turn cross play off and it keeps turning on for “ranked” matches. I don’t play any other game modes but the ones on core multiplayer.
Crossplay+sbmm😭🙏
Get better noob. 🫵🏿😂
Fortnite ruined the whole Call of Duty, more than GTA 6 actually make us very angry.
I love the random animation from CarBot. I love Carbot
“so that they know there going on an even playing field” unless they have a Zen 💀
mw2 has native keyboard and mouse support on console so there really isn't a chance to escape
@@archimedestoolif your input is on keyboard you usually get put against more pc or keyboard users. idk how it os in mw2 though
@@ashten6259 that's true but you just get more keyboard and mouse players in the game there's still controller players espacially if you're playing with a friend on controller
@@archimedestool yeah that’s true but it’s also to equal out the overall playerbase. there’s a lot of controller players that are much better than keyboard players, and a lot of keyboard players that are better than controller players
@@ashten6259 at this point you can't say either is better anymore
Crossplay is fine as an opt in feature like you get matched with PC if you play with PC but gave the optiom to opt in full crossplay either by ticking a box or by having a teammate in your squad that is on console.
However I'm not a fan of forced crossplay which is what most companies are doing nowadays.
Bro your channel makes my emotions all over the place one second it’s the best news cod ever gave us then it’s they scammed us 😢
Shit got so bad that CODM had to make external controller match making which if you have a controller, you have to play against other ppl controllers
I saw that!
happens to me cuz im dog on mobile
That's fair cause it can be even worse than console vs pc.
I remember back when PUBG mobile first released, we have pc emulator players. So we have MnK players, with aim assist, against phone users. It was fixed a few weeks later fortunately, separating emulator/controller players with actual mobile players
They took it out it controler only matches dont exist anymore
It doesn't have it anymore. People would just log into codm play a match then connect a controller to play against touch controller players. So instead of working on fixing that problem they just disabled it.
My buddies and I have been talking about this for months and you straight up described it the same way we did. Great video and great wording bro. People will complain that they can't play with their friends anymore, but that's a small price to pay for equality to everyone
"small price" bro r u crzy
Bro that's a huge price what'd you mean?
Love it or hate it, crossplay keeps old games alive. I mean combining the playerbase into one huge pool instead of seperate pools means youll still find matches
It is better to make crossplay only for ps and xbox Without PC players 👍
CoD literally needs crossplay though for PC players it was impossible to find anything outside of TDM or S&D in BO3 after a few months on PC
And im not one of the sweats using meta load outs and cranking up my FoV. I’m just grinding gun levels, camos, and just wanna find a damn lobby :/
You cannot turn off crossplay
I just don’t like getting snapped on when I’m shooting someone in the back cause he’s got a mouse 😭
Well good thing it’s input based match making. You console broke boys will cry about anything just to not admit you suck huh?
You can hook up mouse and keyboard to your console so what's your point. Controller gets aim assist which is basically a legal aimbot
@@XJollyFreakX I don’t have a desk, I’m not buying a mouse and keyboard for console, lmao the aim assist doesn’t compensate for joysticks. Mouse and keyboard will always be easier than a controller 😂😂😂
@@austingutierrez2709No what he's saying is that you can potentially have the exact same advantage on console since they have mouse + kb support. It's not crossplay exclusive
Even then used to you would just get a kb/mouse converter and have even more of an advantage
I'm not even sure what kind of advantage you'd have, pretty much all of my friends who play on PC prefer controller and most of them play competitively so I'm not so sure it's the advantage yall think it is
@@WilliamSellers-kn9yx I’ve played pc and do infinitely better with a mouse and keyboard than a controller. That was also the 1 and only time I played vs the 10+ years of console gaming. Aiming is easier, movement is easier, hitting shots is easier 😂
another stupid ass thing is that playstation was able to turn off cross play for MW2 and 3 but xbox players weren’t able to there was no toggle for it at all
There is you have to go on Xbox settings
@@ajsx4 keeps screaming at you to run it on so it’s literally useless and you can’t find warzone matches only MP matches
It brings with it longer game life, is nice to see different lobbies instead of just team Deathmatch but it has its disadvantages
All they have to do is put PlayStation and Xbox together and PC not with us
So it’s not just the SBMM that was the problem it’s also cross play as well. I need to turn off cross play when I play multiplayer and turn it back on for Zombies and for my friends.
FOV was honestly the only problem, im basically missing an eye without extended FOV
if there was a dedicated group of modes with crossplay that would be dope so you have a private crossplay match or an online crossplay match
i like crossplay but i do understand that in a competitive gameplay like cod without anticheats was taken advantage by pc. This is the reason why i prefer anything non pvp related to be allowed with crossplay but in pvp either make everyone play on the same playing field or just don't put crossplay on pvp
I quite like the introduction of Crossplay into games. It’s brought the platforms a little closer and has helped tons of people meet new friends.
Great for zombies though, if only cross play were a thing for older zombies game modes
I remember the first game with crossplay around 2008 shadowrun it was the first time ever people pc, xbox and ps could play together!
They should either focus on anticheat or limit crossplay to just between consoles.
Can you turn off PC compatibility in the menus? That way you cann keep just it to the console base then, and those wanting to play PC players can as well. Best of both.
The easiest solution is to have crossplay be only between consoles, but as soon as a console player wants to play with their PC buddy, it switches to PC
Crossplay worked with Need For Speed Underground for those PC gamers playing against one another on the PS2. EA Games experimented that part back in '03.
Even Games For Windows Live did it with people crossplaying it with the PC and Xbox 360. Take Lost Planet Colonies, Shadowrun, and Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, for example. EA, Ubisoft, and Sierra for all I know, said no to GFWL. It had a nasty history of having a 50% of having your save files corrupted. Synchronizing your Xbox account to GFWL wasn't even a thing, and the files were encrypted. No way to copy them.
It's the input type we should be able to filter on. Auto-aim is the cancer of GPS games
Yep this is exactly why I'm getting a pc. I do like the concept of them doing cross-play. However they rushed it a bit too much
WAIT??????? YOU CAN TURN OFF CROSSPLAY???? I didn't know that... And yet I'm trying to go pro, maybe I shouldn't yet. Going pro isn't for me yet
As a pc player, crossplay is the only way I'm really able to find matches in cold war. I'm so thankful because I rarely see other pc players
Bro to anyone thats not aware, the majority of hacks come from steam players.
The steam community could care less about cod being modded, infact modding and hacking are a common things in steam culture.
Honestly they should just keep steam as a separate thing. Crossplay has ruined ping times and lag. My xbox 5 going against a rig with 40gb ram and then wondering why people complain.
it went from a connectivity issue (server based problems on the same consoles)
To a physical issue. (Being completely out matched by professional rigs)
Fun fact, cross play wasn't a thing for so long because Playstation didn't want it and said it wasnt possible, but fortnite had a "bug" that allowed it, and it soon became the standard
I think it's the monetization that ruined it. The shop and preorder bundles are always prioritized while the gameplay itself is broken on arrival and the things we actually want are saved for later or the next game.
No but what did ruin cod is SBMM, bc the matching worked as follows. You got some bad, decent, and then really good players in EVERY lobby which gave you an opportunity to improve. But with SBMM it seems like when you win a lot it just puts you up against people was better than you, and when you lose it puts you with people way worse than you. There is no in between and also idk but sbmm probably matches match making a little harder, bc instead of just finding a match quickly it looks for the appropriate players to pair you up with.
I like the option of cross play. I don't like it being forced. There's just to many differences, and advantages.
I am on pc and turn off crossplay. I noticably get less cheaters. Tbh its a rare occasion now. Jailbroken consoles with hacks are more common than pc hackers. I enjoy never having hackers in my games
i have 1k hours in mw2019 and never ran into a single hacker, it was not a rampant issue
I only turned off crossplay to only play with Controller players
I always run into at least one hacker per round now, and whenever I turn off cross play I can’t get into a match because it takes to long 😭
Why do hackers deceive others players like that? It’s stupid.
Console crossplay is good. Throwing PC in the crossplay with console is not good. Thats why cod is having a hard time to take down these hackers. And they just don't care about it either
Slide mechanic ruined call of duty. If u miss how COD used to be. The devs just need to get rid of Sliding
Thank you for making this video. Cross platform has completely ruined this franchise. As a skilled console player, it’s infuriating to face players that are literally twice as fast as you due to the frames, customized audio, brighter resolution etc. I do not under any circumstances want to play with PC players, bring back Console only lobbies.
Edit: How tf couldn’t forget about a cheater in literally every lobby now 😩
There’s a locked in aim input for controller and keyboard that you can’t change mid match and honestly I think controller users on PC shouldn’t be bonded to playing in mouse and keyboard lobbies
Cross-play is a mandatory thing for new games. I still think that the possibility to play with your friend regardless the platform is something fantastic.
Could be like Halo MCC, where you can choose what devices players must have to play like custom cross play
Cross play has been a thing for years. It’s just Activision and shity networking and SBMM
What pissed most people off was Xbox had forced crossplay where as psn had the option to turn it off and if you turned crossplay off in xbox settings you’d never find a single match
That one setting you must never forget to turn off and i do that same mistake a few times and oops i have forgotten 😭😭
I loved the challenge, especially in HC SND and Cyber (R.I.P HC Cyber attack)
Now you can’t even turn it off. It cracks me up that every PC player I play against has the most points and the most kills. Wish I could turn it off.
roller players have it easy with 360° movement, strong aim assist, and reduced recoil. if they cant keep up its on them. (nearly every cod pro is on controller)
Disabling crossplay for me on Xbox is a nightmare to the point I'm constantly being bombarded with a message asking me for permission to disable it. It's so bad that I have to leave it off.
I only play with cross play off, unless I'm with my squad, and that's rare that our entire team is on
I'd turn off cross play just so I didn't have to play against the op-ness of aim assist. People all acting like there's no cheaters on console...
Aim assist has nothing to do with cross-play, lol. You’re talking about the difference between mouse and keyboard vs controller. People can use both on both console and PC.
The dude was saying that PC gamers as a whole have an advantage over console players because of the power of their PC and PC monitors
me who plays on pc mainly but still uses a controller on fps games
No, Activision's greediness, lack of creativity, and not taking risks anymore made COD fail.
Crossplay is annoying AF i hate coming home after work and getting sweated on by full time twitch streamers
Crossplay is a huge issue, no matter what, even Anti-Cheat stuff won’t leave a scratch on these selfish and annoying PC hackers, plus, why the hell is it always some child being a dumb hacker???
Cross play should be between console only (Xbox and PlayStation)
And pc players could have PC only lobbies
Funny enough, in Crash Team Rumble, the main menu states "Cross Play Enabled.", but there's no option to turn it off. It's probably pointless as there's only the Playstation version and the Xbox version and no Nintendo Switch and PC versions. Not to mention that the entirety of the small active community play mostly on Playstation. I have the Xbox version and I hardly find Xbox players.
I think that its a great thing if they just made it so that you have an option to turn off individual consoles, so that if you have a friend who plays Playstation, but youre on xbox, you can still do that without having to worry about pc players
So, this problem is worse on MW3 2023/2024 version. I'm a console play on the newest CoD title, call of duty black ops six. On MW3 there was forced corssplay and when I played and there was a user I'm pretty sure he was banned but he was in every match I played on MW3, it felt like he was targeting me. But I got bo6 cross-gen it was perfectly fine. I'm wondering if bo6 has forced cross-play.
The only way to make it fair as possible is to put control players in one lobby and M&K in a different,you could also put a cap on frames and fov
im on xbox one x. and i have Damascus on mw 2019. i started Damascus grind late in 2021. and CROSSPLAY WAS HELL
Crossplay saved a lot of games. Look at Apex Legends….i remember how long it would take to find matches before crossplay and that was on PS4. Friends said it was also horrible on PC when it came to matchmaking. Crossplay definitely helped a lot of these games especially CoD
I remember when the came out with the broken AS Val attachment that gave you super FMG. Paired those with snapshots and I was STILL called a cheater. Some bs.
Imagine calling someone a cheater because they used an obvious snapshot grenade and FMJ rounds 😂
The only problem with cross play is that it’s forced nowadays. It could be better if you could select what platforms u wanted to go up against so that way it evens the play field
they need to add Console only Crossplay. Even though I don't mind going against PC Players. You will always get out moved and out skilled by a good MnK player. and with SBMM. Thats it (Xbox for anyone wondering)
I like the choice. I have friends on all platforms. Being able to game with them has made memories that ill never forget.
I’m on PC. Crossplay saved and even revived my interest in CoD. The fact that I can now play CoD without worrying about the playerbase dying after the first few months of release is a blessing along with being able to play with friends and relatives without dropping hundreds on a new platform just for a few sessions. Activision is just lazy and refuses to fix basic issues and now the PC community is getting all the blame.
Fr, I played cod before crossplay on PC and it was basically like waiting the same amount of time it would take to find a higher skill ranked match like in CS but for a casual cod lobby shit was annoying and you'd play the same people fairly quickly. The issue is the terrible anti chest and servers and hell cod you have an advantage with controller games like siege and CS you got an advantage with keyboard and mouse but cod has the strongest aim assist I've ever seen in any shooter directly for controller